"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=SDDude1;5730072]The majority of the SBs definitely know about this forum. They have a forum of their own where they worn the other girls about scammers and fuck-and-dumpers. They know the allowances that you've paid other girls and they know if you're someone who cancels last minute, all before you even have a conversation with them. I got in big trouble reviewing a girl on here a couple of years ago. When I started constantly getting blocked immediately without any conversation, I realized that I had a bad reputation and had to change everything on my profile. An SB finally told me she saw me on the forum. They communicate on Redditt also.[/QUOTE]Do you have the links for SB discussion?

[QUOTE=JWalker350;5730180]Do you have the links for SB discussion?[/QUOTE]No, LOL. Because it's an urban legend.

A lot of these girls know each other, same sorority / friend group, roommates, etc. That's how they share information.

That being said, I've had a couple roommates independent of each other as well as multiple girls at the same VCU sororities who had know clue I was creampieing my way through their peers. They are a LOT less organized than some members of this forum want to believe.

Sure there is the reddit, and some individual chats between friends. But there is not the SB equivalent of USSG or a Blacklist.

I never would believe that a lot of women swing both ways. Is this true as a lot of women's Profiles say looking for Men and Women.

Wow!

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;5730759]I never would believe that a lot of women swing both ways. Is this true as a lot of women's Profiles say looking for Men and Women.

Wow![/QUOTE]It just means they will take money from anyone.

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;5730197]No, LOL. Because it's an urban legend.

A lot of these girls know each other, same sorority / friend group, roommates, etc. That's how they share information.

That being said, I've had a couple roommates independent of each other as well as multiple girls at the same VCU sororities who had know clue I was creampieing my way through their peers. They are a LOT less organized than some members of this forum want to believe.

Sure there is the reddit, and some individual chats between friends. But there is not the SB equivalent of USSG or a Blacklist.[/QUOTE]I've yet to see anything like this on the SB, escort, or other sex worker side of things. Though there are certainly some on the forum. Keep in mind, though, that there ARE blacklisting and screening sites out there, some of which are largely free of charge to women and specifically set up to try and provide some degree of protection for escorts and other sex workers. Whether they're used by the ladies we're talking to is another question entirely. But it's safe to say that each of us DOES build up a reputation. And word *will* get around. Always best to behave ourselves. On both sides of the equation.

It's a Gen-Z thing. Most of these girls are bisexual, because it's the in thing for them to do. Most of us are Boomers and Gen-X, wouldn't get it. I only noticed this because I started asking my SBs if they swing both ways. 3 out of my current 5 SBs swing both ways. 2 of my SBs aren't seeing be regularly, because they are in a lesbian relationship. One positive is that settings up 3 somes has become a lot easier then I thought. Just a word of advice always have your SB pick out the 2nd girl for the 3 some. You will enjoy it more if, the girls are comfortable with each other.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;5730759]I never would believe that a lot of women swing both ways. Is this true as a lot of women's Profiles say looking for Men and Women.

Wow![/QUOTE]

I had my first FC w / a mature, but super hot, single mom today. Petite, slim hot body, tiny little ass. She's related that she was formerly in an abusive relationship in NoCal, she left it and moved to SoCal for a new start in life. So, I knew that she wasn't accustomed to being treated kindly by a man. She also says she's sub and likes to be spanked. Calling Dr. Freud please.

My one consideration of her situation led me to bring a bouquet of flowers to the FC. Daisies. I got it at Walmart for $5 at the same time I purchased a ping pong paddle for her spanking. She immediately reacted very positively to my doing that, and at the end as we were doing a post-mortem, mentioned a couple of times how much it meant to her that I brought her flowers. A significant number of women (in the world, not just the bowl) have had zero experience of being treated nicely by men. You can really tap into their need for this with almost no effort or cost. The deal I have w / her was a bigger allowance for the first meet, and then a reasonable amount for me after. She's enthusiastic about our next FC though she will practically get 40% less. It never hurts to be kind to people. The sex w / this gal was smoking hot good, too, so I am all for it.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;5730759]I never would believe that a lot of women swing both ways. Is this true as a lot of women's Profiles say looking for Men and Women.

Wow![/QUOTE]It has nothing to do with swinging both ways. They're not on there because they're attracted to older men or women. They're on there because they have financial trouble. It has nothing to do with sexual attraction for them. They are going to do what they have to do in order to get the money.

[QUOTE=Roadie1;5731275]It has nothing to do with swinging both ways. They're not on there because they're attracted to older men or women. They're on there because they have financial trouble. It has nothing to do with sexual attraction for them. They are going to do what they have to do in order to get the money.[/QUOTE]An overly simplistic analysis, as any full read of these threads will show.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5731066] A significant number of women (in the world, not just the bowl) have had zero experience of being treated nicely by men. You can really tap into their need for this with almost no effort or cost. [/QUOTE]Tapping into the shortcomings of men under 35 and their inability to treat a woman decently / have a real relationship has been pure gold. They don't know how to have a converation. They would rather look at their screens than into her eyes or even sneak a peek down her blouse. They are scared to act like men -- lets face it, seeking attracts subs -- for fear of being labeled a misogynist, and women are seen as betrayers of their gender if they rely on a man to make ends meet or ask him to toss her around.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5731066] It never hurts to be kind to people. The sex w / this gal was smoking hot good, too, so I am all for it.[/QUOTE]Another way to stand out by negative comparison. I'm staggered at the number of complete idiots who can't form complete sentence when messaging an SB, start off by asking for pics, dive straight into their kinks, treat them like streetwalkers out of the gate and have no ability -- or interest. In shooting these fish in a barrel with their fins spread wide.

[QUOTE=CandyMan555;5715335]Finally this one worked Vanilla did not work.[/QUOTE]We would all appreciate step-by-step specifics. There is intel afoot that the old reliable OneVanilla prepaid debit has stopped working.

[QUOTE=Roadie1;5731275]It has nothing to do with swinging both ways. They're not on there because they're attracted to older men or women. They're on there because they have financial trouble. It has nothing to do with sexual attraction for them. They are going to do what they have to do in order to get the money.[/QUOTE]I could not disagree more. I've been VERY successful finding young (20-25) women with "men / women" in their profile to meet me and my 31 yr old bi fwb. These girls truly are bi and have experience with both men and women and love it all. Several of them have slept with my SB without me being there, too. Obviously no allowance for that; they are doing it for the sex.

I just received an email from SA. It says they put my account on hold. They're saying I need to verify my identity by sending a picture of a government issued I'd with a photo, like a driver's license or a passport. WTF? I haven't catfished anyone. I haven't met up with anyone in months.

[QUOTE=EasyBake;5732886]I just received an email from SA. It says they put my account on hold. They're saying I need to verify my identity by sending a picture of a government issued I'd with a photo, like a driver's license or a passport. WTF? I haven't catfished anyone. I haven't met up with anyone in months.[/QUOTE]Whoa, this is tough. IDK any way to get around this easily. This is why I advise to NEVER do anything that is going to get the pin-heads at SA to look at your profile. They are very capricious in what they think is and isn't correct. What has flown for literally years may suddenly attract their attention. If you get banned, there is really nothing that you can do to get back on, other than start from scratch w / a completely new sugar identity. That can involve either a new device or spoofing software to change your MAC address, new emails, different photos, everything. A super pain.

BTW, I have typically had two profiles on SA, one active and one dormant, to permit me to check up to see if I might have been blocked by a girl, for example. Anyway, at one point I got a similar request for verification of my identity from SA. Allegedly because I needed to verify my identity, that perhaps my photos were fake. There's simply no way I am going to give them my correct information, so I have had to just abandon that profile.

This is why I never report anyone on the site, no matter how deserving their behaviour might be. I never change my profile. Not photos. Not a word of text. Not the tag line or user name. Any of these things can get the mods there looking at your profile. They do that, and they decide you need to up the disclosure to their standards, you'll be in the same boat. I've thought that well-seasoned profiles would be immune to this sort of thing, I guess I would say that is not completely so. Having a good track record of being on the site and not causing any problem is likely helpful, but it cannot save you from these sorts of requests.

[QUOTE=EasyBake;5732886]I just received an email from SA. It says they put my account on hold. They're saying I need to verify my identity by sending a picture of a government issued I'd with a photo, like a driver's license or a passport. WTF? I haven't catfished anyone. I haven't met up with anyone in months.[/QUOTE]I got this once when I used. Fake pic, but then showed the SB a real photo of me in app. When she blocked me, she reported me, so SA asked me to prove I was the person in my profile pic by providing govt I'd.

So you need government I'd to bang women.