The Rat Trap

[QUOTE=Camera3;2364359]Pet,

Look at Michele's ad. It states clearly that she doesn't discount and don't ask. Well, some morons still ask. Why?

But look at it from a hypothetical SP's perspective. And this is actually part of a conversation I had the other day with a SP. She asked a legitimate question. "If you beat me up on price what kind of service do you think I am going to provide?" Think about it. This hypothetical SP has many, many good reviews. You talk her down on price. She gives you lack luster service and kicks you out early. What are you going to do? Write a bad review? Do you think anyone will believe you? Sorry, dude, you are just fucked all around.

Remember, we live in a world where 50% of the populations controls 100% of the pussy.

So, yeah, continue to piss off the ladies. Continue to think you are somehow a super stud when you are really a pathetic looser that hires ****** to fuck you. Keep pressing for the discount or some service you want that isn't on the menu. Great strategy.

Or, as my daddy taught me, don't get bigger than your raisin'. There is some really good talent out there that is cheap. These gals may not be legends or drop dead gorgeous, but the service is there for you at your price point. One day when you are worth something maybe you can step up and date a legend.

Just sayin'.

C3.[/QUOTE]Where is a provider going to go where some percentage of hobbyists are not going to try to push the envelope, be nasty or show some type of negative behavior? You mean to tell me that we here in Orlando are the worst of the bunch compared to any other city in the good old US of A? In any type of business, you're always going to find good customers and some that you want to throw out the door. That's just human nature. No disrespect intended, just my 2 cents.

I will probably regret posting this, but I'm curious what everyone else thinks. This board is the only place to really post bullshit like this, so apologies for ruining the flow of things A2 / everyone else.

If you were seeing an escort but then the escort told you that she wanted to be friends and not do the provider / client relationship any more, what would you do?

I've asked a similar question on another message board with a similar style (and virtually no other extra details or info), and the answers I've received were:

- Bro, she's scoping you out to rob you.

- LOL you got friendzoned.

- She's testing you for a real relationship (weirdest answer I've received!

- Something that happened during a later meeting caused the escort to reevaluate her meet ups with you.
- A bullshit answer of saying "No I don't want to see you any more" (although, why wouldn't you just say it to begin with?)

Just wondering if that covers all of it, or if there's any other situations. It is kind of interesting to see how people think though . . .

[QUOTE=RainbowDash3;2365330]I will probably regret posting this, but I'm curious what everyone else thinks. This board is the only place to really post bullshit like this, so apologies for ruining the flow of things A2 / everyone else.

If you were seeing an escort but then the escort told you that she wanted to be friends and not do the provider / client relationship any more, what would you do?

I've asked a similar question on another message board with a similar style (and virtually no other extra details or info), and the answers I've received were:

- Bro, she's scoping you out to rob you.

- LOL you got friendzoned.

- She's testing you for a real relationship (weirdest answer I've received!

- Something that happened during a later meeting caused the escort to reevaluate her meet ups with you.
- A bullshit answer of saying "No I don't want to see you any more" (although, why wouldn't you just say it to begin with?)

Just wondering if that covers all of it, or if there's any other situations. It is kind of interesting to see how people think though . . .[/QUOTE]If so delete all evidence of this. LOL.

This could be a polite way of the the provider saying she thinks your a douche...not saying u r one..just hypothetical

[QUOTE=PharmaGuy;2365336]If so delete all evidence of this. LOL.

This could be a polite way of the the provider saying she thinks your a douche...not saying u r one..just hypothetical[/QUOTE]Just a hypothetical. I was reading up on reddit and thought of this. Also, when you quote something I don't think that gets deleted, so too late for me anyways even if I did want to delete the message!


[edit]: if anyone wants to reply but stay somewhat anonymous, you can PM me. Will not disclose names. My word is as good as my bond, to partially quote Cervantes.

[QUOTE=Camera3;2364359]Pet,

Look at Michele's ad. It states clearly that she doesn't discount and don't ask. Well, some morons still ask. Why?

But look at it from a hypothetical SP's perspective. And this is actually part of a conversation I had the other day with a SP. She asked a legitimate question. "If you beat me up on price what kind of service do you think I am going to provide?" Think about it. This hypothetical SP has many, many good reviews. You talk her down on price. She gives you lack luster service and kicks you out early. What are you going to do? Write a bad review? Do you think anyone will believe you? Sorry, dude, you are just fucked all around.

Remember, we live in a world where 50% of the populations controls 100% of the pussy.

So, yeah, continue to piss off the ladies. Continue to think you are somehow a super stud when you are really a pathetic looser that hires ****** to fuck you. Keep pressing for the discount or some service you want that isn't on the menu. Great strategy.

Or, as my daddy taught me, don't get bigger than your raisin'. There is some really good talent out there that is cheap. These gals may not be legends or drop dead gorgeous, but the service is there for you at your price point. One day when you are worth something maybe you can step up and date a legend.

Just sayin'.

C3.[/QUOTE]C3,

You know I respect you so I'm just playing the devils advocate here. Now I never ask for a discount nor have I ever threatened anyone with a bad review. Nor have I ever try to push anyone into a service they don't provide. Actually I never ask for anything and let the girl go where they want to go with the encounter. And I can assure you I don't think I'm a stud when seeing a provider because any good ball with the correct change can see the same girl. Now I've had providers stalk me, give me free sessions, ask me on dates, text me like a lunatic, ask me for all kinds of things outside of the initial scope of our relationship. So this goes both ways. And 100% of the pussy belongs to 50% of the population but on the flip side of that coin 50% of the population makes up 100% of their customers. So we are ever again faced of in a old school Tijuana BF.

Lord Casanova.

You may be over thinking it. I think I might consider just going to the next lady on my bucket list is a real good way to move on down the road.

C3.

[QUOTE=RainbowDash3;2365330]
If you were seeing an escort but then the escort told you that she wanted to be friends and not do the provider / client relationship any more, what would you do?[/QUOTE]

Since we seem to be on this subject, I wanted to make a comment.

A man sits down at a bar next to a beautiful blond and starts talking to her.

"Excuse me Miss, would you be willing to have sex with me if I gave you a million dollars in cash?

She replies, "why yes, I most certainly would; if you gave it to me up front.

He says, "then would you have sex with me for ten dollars?

She says, "hell no! What kind of a girl do you think I am?"

He replies, "we've already determined what type of a girl you are. Now we're just negotiatiating price."

In the end, it's simply a business transaction. All of us need to remember that. Ladies, if a client asks you for a discount, you have only three decisions to make:

1. Accept the offer.

2. Decline the offer.

3. Make a counter offer.

That's pretty much it. There's no need to feel insulted. There's no need to be mad or hurt. There's certainly no need to accept the offer and reduce your service level. There's no need for any of that. Choose one of the three options and take it from there.

I also find it odd that some of the guys that say that they would never, ever ask a BP girl for a discount, have no problems in negotiating down a price that a SW gives them. In fact, bargaining down SW's is normal operating procedure. These are also the same girls that start out asking about one third what a BP girl asks for the same services. But yet, there seems to be a huge difference between asking a BP girl for a discount versus asking a SW for a reduced rate. Why is this so dramatically different with so many mongers?

I kind of have to agree with A2's assessment on all of this. While I always advocate treating girls with respect. I also won't allow myself to be taken advantage of either. Who knows? The reduced roses that you give a girl might just be exactly what she needed to keep her electrictity from being cut off, or keep her car from being repo'd, give her the extra she needed to pay her rent, buy food, etc. Ladies remember, some roses is always better than getting no roses.

That's my take on the subject. I guess the only thing for me to do now is wait for the inevitable Swaganna's barbed rebuttal post!

[QUOTE=RainbowDash3;2365330]
If you were seeing an escort but then the escort told you that she wanted to be friends and not do the provider / client relationship any more, what would you do?

[/QUOTE]Your first six words can give you an idea of where the problem lies. You are seeing an escort, like in going out on dates and getting to know each other. Well, I think that she might be a decent person that wants to prevent her customer from confusing business with infatuation before he starts asking for an exclusive relationship. Like C3 wrote: move to the next.

[QUOTE=Vino7373;2365532]Ladies, if a client asks you for a discount, you have only three decisions to make:

1. Accept the offer.

2. Decline the offer.

3. Make a counter offer.
[/QUOTE]If only life were that easy. If only!

[QUOTE=Petroff;2365542]Your first six words can give you an idea of where the problem lies. You are seeing an escort, like in going out on dates and getting to know each other. Well, I think that she might be a decent person that wants to prevent her customer from confusing business with infatuation before he starts asking for an exclusive relationship. Like C3 wrote: move to the next.[/QUOTE]This has been one of the more reasonable, thought out, and well put answers I have received from the internet. Which, if you've been on the caustic part of the internet, is refreshing to read.

[QUOTE=Vino7373;2365532]Since we seem to be on this subject, I wanted to make a comment.

A man sits down at a bar next to a beautiful blond and starts talking to her.

"Excuse me Miss, would you be willing to have sex with me if I gave you a million dollars in cash?

She replies, "why yes, I most certainly would; if you gave it to me up front.

He says, "then would you have sex with me for ten dollars?

She says, "hell no! What kind of a girl do you think I am?"

He replies, "we've already determined what type of a girl you are. Now we're just negotiatiating price."

In the end, it's simply a business transaction. All of us need to remember that. Ladies, if a client asks you for a discount, you have only three decisions to make:

1. Accept the offer.

2. Decline the offer.

3. Make a counter offer.

That's pretty much it. There's no need to feel insulted. There's no need to be mad or hurt. There's certainly no need to accept the offer and reduce your service level. There's no need for any of that. Choose one of the three options and take it from there.

I also find it odd that some of the guys that say that they would never, ever ask a BP girl for a discount, have no problems in negotiating down a price that a SW gives them. In fact, bargaining down SW's is normal operating procedure. These are also the same girls that start out asking about one third what a BP girl asks for the same services. But yet, there seems to be a huge difference between asking a BP girl for a discount versus asking a SW for a reduced rate. Why is this so dramatically different with so many mongers?

I kind of have to agree with A2's assessment on all of this. While I always advocate treating girls with respect. I also won't allow myself to be taken advantage of either. Who knows? The reduced roses that you give a girl might just be exactly what she needed to keep her electrictity from being cut off, or keep her car from being repo'd, give her the extra she needed to pay her rent, buy food, etc. Ladies remember, some roses is always better than getting no roses.

That's my take on the subject. I guess the only thing for me to do now is wait for the inevitable Swaganna's barbed rebuttal post![/QUOTE]I almost always negotiate. I know some girls really hate it but I just can't stop now. A certain provider taught me a few tricks about how to deal with providers and I just can't turn it off now. Maybe I should pay her a visit and show her what I learned since we last played together.

I called out Eastie on saying he asked Rache21 to fly out to him for 48 hours when she was in Texas and also that he had Joy join him in Italy. Eastie sent me this:

Did you read what joytoy said.

"Feel free to call both joytoy and rachel you asshole. Read what joytoy posted. I think you owe me an apology you pompous ass. ".

My pompous ass will apologize to Eastie upon PM confirmation from Joy and Rachel.

So, are you going to share this magic strategy with your fellow literary society members or just be a dick and flaunt it?

C3.

[QUOTE=Intrigued;2366529]I almost always negotiate. I know some girls really hate it but I just can't stop now. A certain provider taught me a few tricks about how to deal with providers and I just can't turn it off now. Maybe I should pay her a visit and show her what I learned since we last played together.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=OrlandoDoc;2366664]I called out Eastie on saying he asked Rache21 to fly out to him for 48 hours when she was in Texas and also that he had Joy join him in Italy. Eastie sent me this:

Did you read what joytoy said.

"Feel free to call both joytoy and rachel you asshole. Read what joytoy posted. I think you owe me an apology you pompous ass. ".

My pompous ass will apologize to Eastie upon PM confirmation from Joy and Rachel.[/QUOTE]JoyToy already confirmed in the forum a pretty good reply at that all you have to do is read it, but if you must call her by all means do it. I don't appreciate being called out over a review if you didn't like it you could have moved on. I know you know joytoy and if it was bullshit she would have called me on it. Just because you are a sm doesn't make you judge and jury. Your actions indicate to me that this forum is a big big deal to you. Get a life this forum is to exchange info on pussy not be an ahole Because you think your status as a sm puts you on a throne get over yourself.

[QUOTE=OrlandoDoc;2366664]I called out Eastie on saying he asked Rache21 to fly out to him for 48 hours when she was in Texas and also that he had Joy join him in Italy. Eastie sent me this:

Did you read what joytoy said.

"Feel free to call both joytoy and rachel you asshole. Read what joytoy posted. I think you owe me an apology you pompous ass. ".

My pompous ass will apologize to Eastie upon PM confirmation from Joy and Rachel.[/QUOTE]Good, you can have the number three asshole spot and I will move down to number four asshole spot. One & two asshole spot is already taken on a permanent basis. If we get acknowledgement from Eastie that you apologized then you might get bumped one spot lower.