Strip Club Reports

[QUOTE=RickJamesB;6862981]This is all my opinion:

After mongering since 2002, I think the Kim Club model has ruined the strip club experience for me....Kim clubs seem to have industrialized getting a nut during a lap dance....They've "99 cents only" the experience.....[/QUOTE]Very true, although I view it more as a "fast food" experience: over 3 million customer served that same burger that's cranked out for everyone, sometimes it's hot and sometimes it's not, sometime the server doesn't give a shit, sometimes there's rat turds, etc. But it's convenient, and it is -- or at least was -- relatively cheap; and sometimes it's just what you need, want, and have enough time to get. And that's why fast food is so popular.

Old days ( 2000) Hawaii Theater & Tropical Lei set the menu, but they were more like a Cracker Barrel: cheesy, but a little "ambience" and the servers made a bit more effort because the prices were relatively high for the time. Then the Kim clubs took it down to the "gas station Wendy's" level. But then the customers changed from experienced long-haul truckers who knew the score and the proper price of Tang, into a bunch of single-mom boy-men simps who can't say no to a woman and never had a male role model teach them how to get the best deal on a used car. They were dazzled and paid what they were told to pay, and the price of poke her went up and up. So was it the Kim clubs, or was it the customers? The eternal question.

Now there's an "cynical old monger" rant for you. Get off my "carpet that doesn't match the drapes," you damn kids.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6866519]It is hard to recommend one over the other since they're different and I keep switching. I spent 10 years on clubs, 4 years on kgirls, then 2 years on clubs including COI, and now back to a 2 year streak with mainly kgirls again. COI was a great break from seeing mainly Koreans, where I could meet young fit white girls like Stormy, sex addicted girls that love to fuck nonstop like Melanine. Even crazier girls like Pink who offered bb despite also trying for baby among other crazier facts.. But while you can get really far at COI clubs, you don't quite get full service with things like shower preview, consistent BBBJ, etc. So I'll summarize best as I can.

See the Los Angeles or OC forums for Korean BB or Asian pleaser threads. You know a girl is good if she gets pages and pages of very high reviews on TER, but TER isn't everything. Anyways, the fact is the very best kgirl and the very worst kgirl normally charge the exact same rate. The agency decides the rate. So if you find a girl you really like, you can see her over and over again as long as she's in town, no negotiation at all. But by the same token if you don't know any girls or your favorites have left town, you have to gamble and do trial and error with girls. The average kgirl service is great. BBBJ is standard and bb is often on the table if she's okay with you. You do have to get approved by the agency, and that is not something I can help with but anyone who uses HX just has to have enough network ratings to get started. I know mongers who have tried kgirls and go back to clubs, and the two main reasons are: at clubs you pick the girl, or they aren't into korean women or just want more variety. The average kgirl is older than the average stripper, but by the same token I have run into some young ones it's just not as common. And while occasional strippers like Pink have offered bb, most do not and do not even BBBJ. And it is more fun being buttnaked with a girl for a whole hour in bed and shower with full privacy, than less time in a booth and obstacles to fun. Hope that sums it up.[/QUOTE]Great summary thank you! I think I'm going to hold off on Synn and SR and check out these kgirls. The way you describe it it seems much more intimate and cheaper than the average VIP experience in a strip club!

Great analysis: It's the customer and the club changing.

[QUOTE=PelicanT99;6868118]Very true, although I view it more as a "fast food" experience: over 3 million customer served that same burger that's cranked out for everyone, sometimes it's hot and sometimes it's not, sometime the server doesn't give a shit, sometimes there's rat turds, etc. But it's convenient, and it is -- or at least was -- relatively cheap; and sometimes it's just what you need, want, and have enough time to get. And that's why fast food is so popular.

Old days ( 2000) Hawaii Theater & Tropical Lei set the menu, but they were more like a Cracker Barrel: cheesy, but a little "ambience" and the servers made a bit more effort because the prices were relatively high for the time. Then the Kim clubs took it down to the "gas station Wendy's" level. But then the customers changed from experienced long-haul truckers who knew the score and the proper price of Tang, into a bunch of single-mom boy-men simps who can't say no to a woman and never had a male role model teach them how to get the best deal on a used car. They were dazzled and paid what they were told to pay, and the price of poke her went up and up. So was it the Kim clubs, or was it the customers? The eternal question.

Now there's an "cynical old monger" rant for you. Get off my "carpet that doesn't match the drapes," you damn kids.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PelicanT99;6868118] Old days ( 2000) Hawaii Theater & Tropical Lei set the menu, but they were more like a Cracker Barrel: cheesy, but a little "ambience" and the servers made a bit more effort because the prices were relatively high for the time. Then the Kim clubs took it down to the "gas station Wendy's" level.[/QUOTE]I don't think prices were relatively high at HT and TL. Randy (RIP) just didn't take a huge cut for the house. It was amazing how low the turnover at REE was amazingly low.

[QUOTE=XBiker;6870857]I don't think prices were relatively high at HT and TL. Randy (RIP) just didn't take a huge cut for the house. It was amazing how low the turnover at REE was amazingly low.[/QUOTE]I think that's a big change in recent years. There are going to be super slow days where no customer shows up for hours sometimes. Now the house has to pay salary even if the girls make nothing, and while half of it is psychological there is an added urgency that starts a vicious cycle.

SR COI instituted a new rule a little over a year ago counting how many days a girl got no vips, and if she did it enough she was automatically fired. A couple of girls were let go a the same time over this. It's worse at Synn, Paradise, and other Kim clubs where girls have to make tips so that usually means extras whether a little or a lot. Kim clubs are set up good for milking their girls and customers, the McDonald's of SCs, so they've gained market share.

So to your point there is a different kind of turnover happening and I see it mentioned in some IG stories. Some of the better strippers I know (in terms of service and looks) can't cut it, even though they'd be a perfect fit for Vegas.

You don't see the same sudden change in clubs from other states. Some clubs operate the same as ever.

What can a budget of 200 get you at COI?

[QUOTE=SGHunter69;6871158]What can a budget of 200 get you at COI?[/QUOTE]Great question. Guessing you mean everything from entry fee, to required drink to cost of VIP room and then some action. I've never been to any of the clubs there, but based on what I've been reading over the years, I'm thinking you can get 20-30 minutes in a VIP room on certain days, and whatever the dancer is willing to do for free. My guess would be you will be able to touch her butt and midsection and maybe lick some nipple while she does some light granding over your pants with-out a tip, but more than that might cost you more than your budget allows. Also guessing that you aren't in those clubs enough for any of the dancers to recognize you as worth or not worth the effort financially.

There are probably some dancers who would do more, but not sure if they would be attractive enough to catch your attention. Maybe some of the semi-regulars could point you in the direction of a dancer or several, who are bargain friendly.

Good luck.

[QUOTE=SGHunter69;6871158]What can a budget of 200 get you at COI?[/QUOTE]A budget of 200 will get you blue balls.

That depends. What do you look like? Kidding. Kind of. It is part of the equation. If you are bargain hunting, it won't help if you are the fattest oldest slob in the club. And bring a bit of the dumb PUA game to the negotiation. You can catch some of them in the right mood on the right slow shift. But some of these top shelf robots will not budge off their high demands regardless. You can figure out which ones fall into which category if you search through this forum.

[QUOTE=SGHunter69;6871158]What can a budget of 200 get you at COI?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SGHunter69;6871158]What can a budget of 200 get you at COI?[/QUOTE]So $20 entry at synn, maybe another $20 towards drink and tip. $80 Thursday VIP 15 minutes. That leaves $80 for tip. Maybe a HJ. But maybe some of the older less desirable girls may give more. I think I've had some come up to me and grab my crotch saying they'd smash in VIP for like nothing though that didn't really turn me on to want them LOL.

Now what you could do, just do standard lap dances with one you really like, build that rapport for the next visit.

[QUOTE=Roland2418;6872227]That depends. What do you look like? Kidding. Kind of. It is part of the equation. [/QUOTE]Bingo. I get that it's easier for some guys to just imagine the girl as a product you pick out of the grocery shelf, but these products have tastes / preferences / standards as well. It's not just about the money in the hand, it's about what's attached to the hand as well.

Below I will introduce all of you to Freak's Customer Scale. On a scale of 1-10,1 being Jabba The Hutt and 10 being Superman Henry Cavill. Ask yourself where would you rank?

(1-3) You're a less than average dude. You don't even get offers or taxed extra HARD. What is a less than normal dude? Extremely overweight, old, terrible hygiene, socially awkward, dumb. You make girls' p*ssies drier than the Sahara Desert. Girls have to give themselves a mental pep talk before they straddle you.

(4-7) You're an average dude. You get normal prices and normal services. Most of us are here, hence average. Some may get extra extras or discounts here and there, but those are because you got lucky or built up enough rapport.

(8-9) You're an above average dude. You get above average offers and services, and deep discounts or occasional freebies. In shape, attractive, fun, have the gift of gab. Basically you're the guy girls want to have sex with on a girls trip or a night out with their homegirls.

(10) You're The Top G. You get the same outcomes as 8-9 dudes, but more consistent freebies and free OTC offers. I haven't experienced it myself but I've heard of girls PAYING for the guy herself to get into the VIP. Girls will ask you a variation of "Why do you even need to go to a strip club?" (A compliment.) You look better than the 8-9 dudes but have a better lifestyle, higher sexual prowess, more charisma, more masculinity. All girls want you, all dudes respect you. You make girls moist and they're competing for your attention.

Obviously there are things that are uncontrollable to get to the 10 number (facial characteristics, height, etc.) but a lot of the stuff above is controllable. A simple one is the weight; 80% of Americans are overweight. Just being not fat makes you top 20% of dudes.

Made a couple trips the Trap last week. Here are my findings!

Fellows please stop paying these Trap-stars ridiculous amounts of $$ for bare minimum services!

Had a couple conversations with my Regulars and almost spat out my $10 Redbull ($8+$2 tip) after hearing what some of you guys are paying for a hand job and Daty.

We can't complain about GPS prices when we are creating the problem! Remember Fellows we are the price makers not the other way around! And before I start getting messages about how it's easy for me to say because I must have money! Yes, money isn't a issue for me but I prefer spending it on other hobbies!

I've been in the traps for over 20 years and if I can't set the price I move on! Got to learn the game Brothas or these ladies going to suck you dry and not the good kind LOL.

Talk to you in a couple hrs I'm off to Columbia for 2 weeks.

Nokia or Nykoyo whatever her f*ck kamikaze name is. She well be at bikini bottoms flyer party In riverside this weekend. Thatz's where I got my lap dance for free at that party. No point paying 1,000 for putang. She will be there with her Pimp Tj or El Jefe from burbank. Yup last year she was there with Capri & Khalifa.

[QUOTE=EzDoesIt12;6874553]Made a couple trips the Trap last week. Here are my findings!

Fellows please stop paying these Trap-stars ridiculous amounts of $$ for bare minimum services!

Had a couple conversations with my Regulars and almost spat out my $10 Redbull ($8+$2 tip) after hearing what some of you guys are paying for a hand job and Daty.

We can't complain about GPS prices when we are creating the problem! Remember Fellows we are the price makers not the other way around! And before I start getting messages about how it's easy for me to say because I must have money! Yes, money isn't a issue for me but I prefer spending it on other hobbies!

I've been in the traps for over 20 years and if I can't set the price I move on! Got to learn the game Brothas or these ladies going to suck you dry and not the good kind LOL.

Talk to you in a couple hrs I'm off to Columbia for 2 weeks.[/QUOTE]Doesn't help if you don't give numbers. How is anyone supposed to know what is too much without anyone providing a base to go by?

Went to Synn today to check out dayshift talent. Got there around 12:40 just in time to get in for free. Walked in and found out that I was the only customer. The girls made their rounds on me so I got to talk to all of them.

Alizae is a 20 years old slender brunette Latina from San Bernadino. She has a pretty face with a hot body to match. She said today is her second shift at Synn but insisted that she's a veteran stripper. She danced at Synn North Hills, SR Rialto and Oddball Cabaret prior to synn. She's quite a looker, a natural young beauty. The only flaw are her crooked teeth. She has braces on so in a few month when her teeth straightened up she might become the top looker. I inquired about her VIP and she said no extras.

I also met Cherry, a curvy 19 years old blondie. She has photos on her profile and they are accurate. She started dancing at Synn in January and it's her first club. Started out on night shift but settled in on day shift because she likes going home early. She has a nice face, pretty eyes, and great smile. The best part about Cherry are huge tits. They look fantastic. They are prominently featured on her profile page. She's dtf and her menu is 450/200. I countered and she declined stating she will never go that low then walked away. Oh well.

Adore took the stage and holy shit this girl is hot. I flagged her down as soon as she came out from the dressing room. She, along with Ariel, were the prettiest girls of the shift. Adore is the more complete package of the two. She has a better personality and nicer tits & ass. She's the poor man's Roxy; she's alluring like Roxy but her VIP is a bargain. I could never hold a conversation with her for a minute before taking her to VIP. Behind the curtains, we got hot and heavy real quick. This girl really loves what she does. Always deliver with a passion and let me know that she enjoyed her time with me. I highly recommend her.

Noticed The Waitress was a dancer now (light skin_mix) any info on her, didn't catch her name and service. Shay, any service info on her? Noticed London looked good tonight 4-23-2024 night shift. Dream looked hot, she got VIP-ed up by a few customers. I wanted to catch her, but she was busy obviously. Passion was not into it tonight, the only Dancer hit me up was Miley white chick w / tattoos, but I'm not into white chicks. (Except for London, she looked doable).

[QUOTE=FruitCake;6874813]Noticed The Waitress was a dancer now (light skin_mix) any info on her, didn't catch her name and service. Shay, any service info on her? Noticed London looked good tonight 4-23-2024 night shift. Dream looked hot, she got VIP-ed up by a few customers. I wanted to catch her, but she was busy obviously. Passion was not into it tonight, the only Dancer hit me up was Miley white chick w / tattoos, but I'm not into white chicks. (Except for London, she looked doable).[/QUOTE]There was a dancer Shay at Synn, best way to know which is the old shay has many tattoos including tattoos all over her hand. She charges 2 in VIP.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6875981]There was a dancer Shay at Synn, best way to know which is the old shay has many tattoos including tattoos all over her hand. She charges 2 in VIP.[/QUOTE]Referring to the current (Synn-Shay), new / old, I wouldn't know. Has tattoos all over her body.

[QUOTE=FruitCake;6876504]Referring to the current (Synn-Shay), new / old, I wouldn't know. Has tattoos all over her body.[/QUOTE]Did she look exactly like this?

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/diamond.shayy/[/URL]

Some Synn news:

Looks like Nyoko is now working at a different club, not sure where but she took a pic and kind of looks like a SR, not sure which one.

A couple dancers told me Bailey got engaged; so any of us holding onto the idea of her coming back. Don't get your hopes up.

[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;6876548]Some Synn news:

Looks like Nyoko is now working at a different club, not sure where but she took a pic and kind of looks like a SR, not sure which one.

A couple dancers told me Bailey got engaged; so any of us holding onto the idea of her coming back. Don't get your hopes up.[/QUOTE]She could just be double dipping -- she was on the Synn roster as recently as a few days ago.

[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;6876548]Some Synn news:

Looks like Nyoko is now working at a different club, not sure where but she took a pic and kind of looks like a SR, not sure which one.

A couple dancers told me Bailey got engaged; so any of us holding onto the idea of her coming back. Don't get your hopes up.[/QUOTE]She was at the Rialto location last night 4/24.

[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;6876548]Some Synn news:

Looks like Nyoko is now working at a different club, not sure where but she took a pic and kind of looks like a SR, not sure which one.

A couple dancers told me Bailey got engaged; so any of us holding onto the idea of her coming back. Don't get your hopes up.[/QUOTE]Damn Bailey was a good fuck. I hate when guys wife thots because they belong to all of us. But she will be back to streets eventually.

[QUOTE=FreeWally;6876539]Did she look exactly like this?

[URL]https://www.instagram.com/diamond.shayy/[/URL][/QUOTE]That's her, old new, don't know.

[QUOTE=BoyBig855;6876995]Damn Bailey was a good fuck. I hate when guys wife thots because they belong to all of us. But she will be back to streets eventually.[/QUOTE]Bailey WUZ FINE AS FUCK! NEVER GOT A DANCESHE WAS BIZZZZY.

[QUOTE=SuperFreakOMG3;6876548]Some Synn news:

Looks like Nyoko is now working at a different club, [/QUOTE]She's on the roll call for tonight.

[QUOTE=BoyBig855;6876995]Damn Bailey was a good fuck. I hate when guys wife thots because they belong to all of us. But she will be back to streets eventually.[/QUOTE]It will be extremely difficult for a girl like her to return to normal life. It's one thing for a girl to stripped and failed. But with her she was successful at stripping. She saw the light and exposed to herself to making fast money. Her guy will never be able to replace the amount of attention, money and cocks offered to her in the club.

[QUOTE=Jeep5151;6878969]It will be extremely difficult for a girl like her to return to normal life. It's one thing for a girl to stripped and failed. But with her she was successful at stripping. She saw the light and exposed to herself to making fast money. Her guy will never be able to replace the amount of attention, money and cocks offered to her in the club.[/QUOTE]This is absolutely 100% true. It doesn't matter if you make over 100 k a year as a man. We work hard to get there. The percentage of men making over 100 k is very small. These girls can make that kind of money working double shifts two days a week. They don't know what hard work is. They are use to a life of ease and easy money, A life where simps throw money at them for the bare minimum. They are ultimately ruined as women. They will never be able to adapt to the "outside world" . They essentially have the mindset of a man who has been incarcerated and finally gets released from jail. They don't know what do once they are out and once things get hard they revert back to what is familiar. These girls do not know how to handle hard complicated situations. They have a false sense of reality. We as men have to learn that these girls are for entertainment purposes only. You don't go to the zoo and bring a tiger home because you think it's beautiful and you can tame eventually its going to get hungry and eat you alive. Same principal applies to these girls. You bring one of these girls home you'll be ruined emotionally and financially. The cliche you can't make a hoe a housewife is true and stands the test of time because it is 100% facts. This is especially true for woman at Synn as it is a high volume environment. What do you gentlemen think about this topic?

[QUOTE=Jstax;6879047]This is absolutely 100% true. It doesn't matter if you make over 100 k a year as a man. We work hard to get there. The percentage of men making over 100 k is very small. These girls can make that kind of money working double shifts two days a week. They don't know what hard work is. They are use to a life of ease and easy money, A life where simps throw money at them for the bare minimum. They are ultimately ruined as women. They will never be able to adapt to the "outside world" . They essentially have the mindset of a man who has been incarcerated and finally gets released from jail. They don't know what do once they are out and once things get hard they revert back to what is familiar. These girls do not know how to handle hard complicated situations. They have a false sense of reality. We as men have to learn that these girls are for entertainment purposes only. You don't go to the zoo and bring a tiger home because you think it's beautiful and you can tame eventually its going to get hungry and eat you alive. Same principal applies to these girls. You bring one of these girls home you'll be ruined emotionally and financially. The cliche you can't make a hoe a housewife is true and stands the test of time because it is 100% facts. This is especially true for woman at Synn as it is a high volume environment. What do you gentlemen think about this topic?[/QUOTE]Making 100 k a year really isn't that hard if you apply yourself. If you think a small amount of guys make 100 k, then you should change your inner circle.

Also not sure these girls are making 100 k, but even if they do, they have no 401 k, healthcare, etc, so they still make less than say a public school teacher. Not to mention, their lifespan is 5-10 years. A max. After that, they'll be lucky if their weekly average stripping is equivalent to minimum wage. A trashman will still make more in his lifetime than a girl that strips for 5-10 years and can't do anything else after.

[QUOTE=CocaCvs;6879460]Making 100 k a year really isn't that hard if you apply yourself. If you think a small amount of guys make 100 k, then you should change your inner circle.

Also not sure these girls are making 100 k, but even if they do, they have no 401 k, healthcare, etc, so they still make less than say a public school teacher. Not to mention, their lifespan is 5-10 years. A max. After that, they'll be lucky if their weekly average stripping is equivalent to minimum wage. A trashman will still make more in his lifetime than a girl that strips for 5-10 years and can't do anything else after.[/QUOTE]Based on the 2022 stats that I just pulled up, 38% of households in the US made at least $100 k. The percentage might be higher in the LA area (higher cost of living) or maybe not if it's dragged down by a bunch of poor immigrants. But $100 k is a lot of money for someone in her twenties. Making $100 k at that age isn't necessarily easy without an engineering degree or the like.

[QUOTE=CaseyX;6879574]Based on the 2022 stats that I just pulled up, 38% of households in the US made at least $100 k. The percentage might be higher in the LA area (higher cost of living) or maybe not if it's dragged down by a bunch of poor immigrants. But $100 k is a lot of money for someone in her twenties. Making $100 k at that age isn't necessarily easy without an engineering degree or the like.[/QUOTE]And what's the percentage of strippers making100 k?

[QUOTE=CaseyX;6879574]Based on the 2022 stats that I just pulled up, 38% of households in the US made at least $100 k. The percentage might be higher in the LA area (higher cost of living) or maybe not if it's dragged down by a bunch of poor immigrants. But $100 k is a lot of money for someone in her twenties. Making $100 k
at that age isn't necessarily easy without an engineering degree or the like.[/QUOTE]The only ones making a 100 K A year are price gouging retail / and fast food establishments. While you and me make lame money,. AM / PM selling Naked Juice for $5. 67 Cents, Taco Bell bean Burrito close to $3 dollars and a drink close to $4 . Let alone going to Synn buying drinks, a $20 dollar cover, tips w / o any lap dance is an easy 60/70 min run for me when I don't get a dance , yes dancers make A 100 k for sure. Except the weed smokers, they got pimps LOL.

Looks like Mileena is back as princess. I saw someone strongly recommending her months back at 200. Hope that's still the case.

[URL]https://desktop.onegc.app/rollcall/club/2/dancer/13172[/URL]

Anyone got any info on Syx an Tee? They both look like they got some booty on them. Unfortunately pictures are misleading.

She also pops up at SR COI, Synn NH and Sahara. She is either trying to outrun a bad reputation or just can't get enough dick.

[QUOTE=FakeHero;6881010]Looks like Mileena is back as princess. I saw someone strongly recommending her months back at 200. Hope that's still the case.

[URL]https://desktop.onegc.app/rollcall/club/2/dancer/13172[/URL][/QUOTE]

Anyone seen Amber at Paradise recently? We had a hot session a while back and been trying to relive that but haven't seen her on the RC. If you have her contacts and are willing to share, PM me. I'd appreciate it.

[QUOTE=XBiker;6870857]I don't think prices were relatively high at HT and TL. Randy (RIP) just didn't take a huge cut for the house. It was amazing how low the turnover at REE was amazingly low.[/QUOTE]House prices weren't high, pretty standard in fact. I only meant relatively high total out of pocket totals, due to the high mileage you got. Other clubs were not as high mileage as REE, 75-95% of the time. I think I got 4-5 bare OTP hand jobs in OC before my first trip to HT in like 1998 (and thought I was doing great, and it was like $100-ish out the door. The HT full service $220 standard incl VIP, often could do $150-180 WITH the dance / room. Hahaha.

So relatively high at the time, compared to LM clubs. But not a rip-off, no. A bargain for what we got, sorely missed these days.

Ariel open to extras with full for 5. Could talk her down a little bit but did not bite. She's pretty but her attitude is just hustler mentality.

London also 5, did not negotiate but she's a hotty.

Ariel and Bexx are real good friends with pussy licking on stage at Synn last Thurs.

[QUOTE=IntoNOut;6885566]Anyone seen Amber at Paradise recently? We had a hot session a while back and been trying to relive that but haven't seen her on the RC. If you have her contacts and are willing to share, PM me. I'd appreciate it.[/QUOTE]I saw her a few months ago, during night shift. As far, as I know she is no longer working dayshift.

[QUOTE=FruitCake;6879980]The only ones making a 100 K A year are price gouging retail / and fast food establishments. While you and me make lame money,. AM / PM selling Naked Juice for $5. 67 Cents, Taco Bell bean Burrito close to $3 dollars and a drink close to $4 . Let alone going to Synn buying drinks, a $20 dollar cover, tips w / o any lap dance is an easy 60/70 min run for me when I don't get a dance , yes dancers make A 100 k for sure. Except the weed smokers, they got pimps LOL.[/QUOTE]Yeah, fast food prices have gotten insane. A pretzel and lemonade at the mall now cost about $13.00. It doesn't help that Newscum has forced a 25% increase in labor cost onto these restaurants.