"Non-sexual" sugar babies? WTF?
Has anyone else noticed a higher-than-usual volume of SBs specifically stating that "platonic" and "non-sexual"?
I'm also wondering if anyone is actually paying these girls to go to dinner or exchange text messages?
The end of COVID, and the end of a Seeking business model
[QUOTE=JLZ61;5248474]There's definitely been a sharp increase since Covid hit. Most of the girls wanting platonic or non-sexual relationships quote the pandemic as the reason. And I get it. If they can get away with it, why wouldn't they try to get money from guys willing to give them sugar without providing sugar in return? In most of their eyes, we're older men that they'd be unlikely to fuck anyway and if we're stupid enough to give them sugar without demanding any in return, why not?
Covid has brought a new group to the mix. Girls who not only want just platonic but want on-line only, again cite Covid as the reason. That reason is gong away shortly but again, if they can get away with it, why not?
I can only hope the number of guys willing to pay for that BS is vanishingly small.[/QUOTE]Yes, the end of COVID is going to undermine that entire "platonic"/ online arrangement business model on Seeking.
As a matter of fact, I have already started to call BS on ones whom I can tell are lying.
For example, there was a nurse in her early twenties who was insisting on an online arrangement, and citing COVID as an excuse. I'm pretty sure that anyone who is a nurse / teacher / first responder has gotten the vaccine already. So, no COVID excuse.
In Ohio, they are already opening up the vaccine to anyone over fifty. That will make at least half of us eligible. In April or May, it should be available to just about anyone who wants it.
Sugarbaby Strategies and COVID Vaccines
Agreed. I bet, however, many SB wannabees will continue with this strategy for a while yet. Enough mongers and SDs will still rise to the bait that the pandemic excuse will remain through summer.
- And, for those interested, there are "no waste" waitlists for the vaccine doses that are left unclaimed due to no shows. Call pharmacies in small towns outside of Cincinnati (e. G. , Dayton, Middletown, etc.) to see if they have any openings / unclaimed doses. It'll be hard to find anything like that in Cincinnati proper because too many people are in line already. I got mine in Middletown before I was eligible for a vaccine.
The reason for "no waste" wait lists is that the Moderna and Pfizer (2-dose) vaccines have a limited shelf life of just a few hours once the pharmacist pulls a vaccine dose from the deep freeze. So, if you're on your game and checking frequently, you can slip in and take the dose of a no-show. Pharmacies don't want to throw away valid vaccines, obviously, and getting them into someone who needs a vaccine is preferable to tossing them. Plus, once you're in with the first dose, you're automatically scheduled for the second. Kinda win win! (This doesn't hold true with J&J since that's a normal freezer storage and a single dose anyway.).
[QUOTE=ToddCincy;5250381]Yes, the end of COVID is going to undermine that entire "platonic"/ online arrangement business model on Seeking.
As a matter of fact, I have already started to call BS on ones whom I can tell are lying.
For example, there was a nurse in her early twenties who was insisting on an online arrangement, and citing COVID as an excuse. I'm pretty sure that anyone who is a nurse / teacher / first responder has gotten the vaccine already. So, no COVID excuse.
In Ohio, they are already opening up the vaccine to anyone over fifty. That will make at least half of us eligible. In April or May, it should be available to just about anyone who wants it.[/QUOTE]
Be careful on Seeking (a cautionary tale)
I recently received a text (to my burner number) from a SB I messaged on seeking.
To make a very long story short, I got the sense not far into the conversation that she was trying to get me to put in writing a statement that could potentially be used for blackmail.
I always try to get girls on the phone as soon as possible. (This way, I can quickly weed out the fake profiles.) I tried to get her to have a brief phone conversation, but she made every excuse in the book (many of which simply didn't make sense or were self-contradictory).
Anyway, I broke it off and said that I had my doubts about the authenticity of her profile. I wasn't necessarily friendly about this, mind you; but I wasn't abusive or nasty, either. Basically, I just said that I was no longer comfortable with the conversation, and wanted to part ways with the person on the other end of the text exchange. Goodbye and good luck!
Almost immediately, my burner number rang, and a woman on the other end started accusing me of making illegal proposals. (And part of my game on Seeking is that I never, ever allow myself to be drawn into a specific proposal of sex for cash.) Her voice didn't match the college girl in the profile.
Then, my burner phone started blowing up with profane, abusive text messages from other numbers. This continued for about ten minutes.
I blocked the profile, and contacted customer support at Seeking to make them aware.
-Todd's advice on Seeking (2021 edition):
As some of you may know, the environment on Seeking has changed considerably since the glory days. There are a lot of very deep fakes and blackmail scams on the site nowadays. Always be careful.
I would also make the following suggestion: Don't bother with Seeking if you're happy with the quality level of the local escort market.
I am on Seeking because I am not interested in seeing 98% of the escorts talked about here. I'm really only interested in women who are very fit and under the age of 35. (And I strongly prefer them in the 19 to 25 range.).
We recently had a discussion about Sara TT (to cite just one example). For me, Sara TT is too old. But if you are happy with that level of quality, it probably *isn't* worth your time and effort to mess with Seeking nowadays. Just stick with well reviewed escorts on all the sites mentioned here at USAG. (Plus, there's the fact that Seeking now has a $99.99/ month price tag.
I still manage to land some hot girls on Seeking. Including college chicks. But it is *much* more trouble than it was even three or four years ago.
In any case, be very careful there, and don't accept anyone at face value until you actually meet them, and they follow through.
First time SB disappointed
So this gal contacted me via SB. Great communication straight to the point. Open menu without an*l. Bummed but not a deal breaker so set up time and travel to her place. Confirming the appointment within hour of scheduled time. Then get to location and nothing notta crickets. The agreement was 2 times with approximately hour time frame l am little order reloading takes me a few but not hours. Goes Jen to start her name. Blonde hair shows online all the time. Just letting everyone know. Happy hunting in a bare market. Boy do I miss the BP days could find quality quick cheaper and get your bang for your bucks. By the way damage was supposed to $$5. Her loss!
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Be careful on Seeking (a cautionary tale): profile
If you see my post below:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10668-Sugarbabies&p=5251454&viewfull=1[/URL]#post5251454.
This is the profile that I had the problem with. Since I reported it, it may no longer be on Seeking: realbeauty1001.
Again, after refusing to respond to some leading questions (she clearly wanted me to entrap myself by saying "sex for money" or something similar, I received a string of abusive texts to my burner phone from multiple numbers.).
Realbeauty1001 - stay away from this one
Here is link to her profile currently active on Seeking.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/ae02b6c6-de0f-494b-adfd-d09cd9ba0266[/URL]
[QUOTE=ToddCincy;5252267]If you see my post below:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10668-Sugarbabies&p=5251454&viewfull=1[/URL]#post5251454.
This is the profile that I had the problem with. Since I reported it, it may no longer be on Seeking: realbeauty1001.
Again, after refusing to respond to some leading questions (she clearly wanted me to entrap myself by saying "sex for money" or something similar, I received a string of abusive texts to my burner phone from multiple numbers.).[/QUOTE]
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My new Seeking strategy: report every phishing scammer
I used to just block or ignore phishing scams on Seeking. This month, though, I've started reporting every one. Make Seeking aware of how pervasive the problem has become.
It isn't hard to do. There's a little dropdown button on every profile / message that allows you to report (and simultaneously block). It is good to screenshot the message so that the customer service has something to go on.
I can deal with GPS or flakey girls. (That comes with the territory.) But Seeking has become overrun by so many outright fakes in recent months, that it's becoming a serious impediment to using the site.
The attachment (just reported!) is a now classic Seeking phishing attempt.
Seeking terms and conditions
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5254328]Is her activity even against the rules? Talk to them like they're hookers and you're out. This looks like exactly the sort of shit SA would encourage.[/QUOTE]My understanding is that we're not supposed to say "payment per meeting" or "sex for cash", and they aren't supposed to ask for money without meeting, which this girl clearly was.
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My new Seeking strategy: report every phishing scammer
[QUOTE=ToddCincy;5253733]I used to just block or ignore phishing scams on Seeking. This month, though, I've started reporting every one. Make Seeking aware of how pervasive the problem has become.
It isn't hard to do. There's a little dropdown button on every profile / message that allows you to report (and simultaneously block). It is good to screenshot the message so that the customer service has something to go on.
I can deal with GPS or flakey girls. (That comes with the territory.) But Seeking has become overrun by so many outright fakes in recent months, that it's becoming a serious impediment to using the site.
The attachment (just reported!) is a now classic Seeking phishing attempt.[/QUOTE]Not absolutely certain, but she may be back under a different name.
CFG.
How to Smack Pic Sellers and Scammers on SA
Here's an example of how you can maybe make life more difficult for picture sellers and scammers on seeking by rewriting messages sent to you and pontificating to their detriment. Sent profile below a message. Got reply. Copied reply with header and time stamp. Reported profile as underage to get faster action. Can also report them as being an escort even though they are not technically offering escort-like services. It gets faster support attention. In reported message rewrote their reply to appear like person was offering pictures for cash. You can also rewrite the messages to appear like they're offering sex for money or that they're trying to scam by getting money sent to a cash app. Seeking may ban the profile based off this rewrite. If not then so be it. If yes then bye bye. And yes, this has worked more than once..
Chey_babbby23__ about 13 minutes ago.
Hey I'm good wbu.
Became with rewrite for reporting this profile.
Chey_babbby23__ about 13 minutes ago.
Hey for a nice allowance each week sent to my venmo I will send you sexy pics and xxx videos. What do you say?
[QUOTE=ToddCincy;5253733]I used to just block or ignore phishing scams on Seeking. This month, though, I've started reporting every one. Make Seeking aware of how pervasive the problem has become.
It isn't hard to do. There's a little dropdown button on every profile / message that allows you to report (and simultaneously block). It is good to screenshot the message so that the customer service has something to go on.
I can deal with GPS or flakey girls. (That comes with the territory.) But Seeking has become overrun by so many outright fakes in recent months, that it's becoming a serious impediment to using the site.
The attachment (just reported!) is a now classic Seeking phishing attempt.[/QUOTE]