Massage Parlor Reports

Located at approximately 98th Avenue and Bell on the south side in the back corner. It is discrete, especially after 6:00 PM or on Sunday. There is normally one masseuse on duty. If there is a car out front, it is a customer. So, if you see a car, circle until it is gone. Otherwise, the masseuse will leave the room and disrupt my or your massage.

There are two masseuses: one younger, one older. The older one is not subject to rotation to another location and has been there quite a while.

Both do more of a body rub than a body massage. It's above average.

As pointed in an earlier post, the masseuses need to know you before they go very far with you. Don't expect much the first time. By the third visit, just a guess, the older one might stick her finger up your bum unnanounced while you are on your back.

Here is the unique thing about this place that other shops should copy. Neither of the masseuses mention any dollar amount ever. After you get dressed and are walking out, you hand them your tip. Tipping is at your discretion. Where are there more of these?

This is NOT an invitation to take advantage of them.

The older one told me once that I was a nice man. She said there are other men that are mean and she tells them to go away when they come in. I am reading between the lines, but I think that is entirely in the frame of tipping.

You be nice, too, and you will eliminate the upselling, ugly, disgusting part of visiting an MP.

[QUOTE=Simonwest08;1103955]I wonder if it was that guy a few months back on here that went by the name Jeff Bianco or something like that. He was suspicious of his girlfriend working at a massage parlor. Maybe ol boy found out his lady was tossing salad and in a bit of rage killed her. Makes me wonder.[/QUOTE]Not cool man. We are here to roam this forum vicariously. Not to be accused of being murderers!

[QUOTE=FlyTwoHaveFun; 1103284]Anybody anything about this one?

[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/sensual-full-body-massage-by-sassy-sensational-asian-or-lovely-latina-hot-hot-hot/11465477[/url]

It's over my way and was wondering if it's worth dreaming about.

Max[/QUOTE]The first time I was there a white women in 40s gave me a great massage, She was a 4 on a scale 1 thru 10. All service to be had; I just took the basic, it was ok. 80 spent. The second time younger women in her 20's white she was a 7 but poor message, only offered one type of service the basic; very poor $ spent. I want back again do to new staff. Just got a massage I was not happy with the line up bit of attitude; They may have changed there staff again.

[QUOTE=Hummer Bird;1104053]Not cool man. We are here to roam this forum vicariously. Not to be accused of being murderers![/QUOTE]Did you take offense to what I said? I wasn't insinuating anything. Obviously there are a lot of weirdos on this site and his posts asking about someone to do a follow up for him was a bit out of the ordinary, rather quite strange. The topic was brought up so I threw it out there.

[QUOTE=Night Flh;1104199]The first time I was there a white women in 40s gave me a great massage, She was a 4 on a scale 1 thru 10. All service to be had; I just took the basic, it was ok. 80 spent. The second time younger women in her 20's white she was a 7 but poor message, only offered one type of service the basic; very poor $ spent. I want back again do to new staff. Just got a massage I was not happy with the line up bit of attitude; They may have changed there staff again.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the heads up I think I'll pass on that one!

Max.

Hi guys,

"Under New Mgmnt". Had a foot massage, $30 1 Hr to try it out. I was met by a nice looking asian, around 30 I guess, behind the counter and there was a man behind there too but he didn't say anything. The girl I remembered from Luxury Spa on Ray which was always totally legit for me. Had a VG foot & back massage but couldn't find out if there was anything else available. Anyone have experience with this one?

[QUOTE=NoNameDefense; 1104045]Second visit, paid for 45 minutes and was in and out in less than a half hour. When is one of these shops going to invest in a clock, with plastic hands, that they can put out front that says "I will be available at" rather than having to leave the room during the massage? She left the room twice to meet another customer.

I thought since she knew me, I would do better the second time. When I got to the end, she informed me that I had the "first time special" the last time I was there. As a result, if I wanted the same ending, I would need to ante more. I tried to reason with her and she told me that "she did not understand English very well." Another hurried finish that amounted to less for the same price.

This masseuse epitomizes all that is wrong with the MPs. More money, more money, less service.

[/QUOTE]You just highlighted my 2 major complaints about AMPs. The quality of your service significantly degrades if another customer comes in. They're too focused on customer turnover and making money than establishing a clientelle of repeat customers. They'll complain about your tip without regard whether you'll come back.

I've had 40-something pudgy AMPs want a tip the equivalent to an 20-something attractive escort then spend the whole time complaining because we eventually agree to a lower (reasonable) tip. They need to realize that a happy customer who will repeat with a. 4 or. 5 tip for HJ is better than trying to coerce a. 8 tip and chase a customer from returning.

Went to see Apple last week. Got the basic service, with TS and body lick. Her attitude was much better and friendly. Why? I called ahead and asked for her. When I arrived the other girl came up and I again asked for Apple. In the room, I told her she treated me well and I always wanted to see her again. Put a big smile on her face.

I think it helped with the experience. This experience was way better then my first with her. I tell ya, ain't nothing like looking in the mirror seeing a lady's face all up in your butt.

"this was a dream of course"

[QUOTE=Thephnx; 1104735]Hi guys,

"Under New Mgmnt". Had a foot massage, $30 1 Hr to try it out. I was met by a nice looking asian, around 30 I guess, behind the counter and there was a man behind there too but he didn't say anything. The girl I remembered from Luxury Spa on Ray which was always totally legit for me. Had a VG foot & back massage but couldn't find out if there was anything else available. Anyone have experience with this one? [/QUOTE]Yes, this is owned by same people who had luxury on Ray. In other words, good massage and "Nada Mas." The old luxury was taken over by the famous Eastern Spa "crew." Eastern Spa are very good at teasing and massage, but you will still go home hornier than a "Two-peckered" Billy goat.

As of this past August, I had never been to an AMP and knew zero about them. I started going and have drawn some conclusions about them. Here's my summary of my visits from August. November.

First one was one called Asian Massage on Lindsay & Main. Probably a 50 year old woman. Paid. 6 for hr (didn't know at this point to pay for the hhr). After 30 minutes, she said she was finished and asked me what I wanted now. I played dumb. I was lying on my back with the towel covering my privates and she pointed there. I said "ok" and she gave me a HJ. No mention of tip or anything. When finished, I gave her a. 2 tip. Went back a few weeks later and got the same service and gave her the same tip. She asked for more money. I played dumb since that's what I gave her the time before without any complaint. She told me next time no extras. I never went back. These were my first 2 visits to an AMP.

Visited Silver Moon next and a total of 4 times over September / October. Always a very "legal" massage for. 4 for hr and I gave a. 2 tip. Probably the best massage of any place I have been. It was a very sensual massage and she came about as close to touching my junk as possible. Full naked ass massage on my stomach. Always by Nancy (about 40) who was the owner then. Always leaving room to tend to customer who comes in the door. Annoying. She sold the place in November. I don't know what the place is like now.

Visited place on Southern east of Dobson. Asian woman in 40s and a little plump. Paid. 5 for 45 min. Very teasing sensual massage on my stomach that seemed to be mostly on my ass. On the turn over, she asked me what I wanted. I agreed to $.2 for FS and she wanted payment first. Only had $.1 in my wallet. She accepted that. No touching but I was able to take my time. Nice TS afterwards.

Been twice to a place on Dobson south of Guadalupe on east side of street. First time. 3 for hhr (Craigs List special) and gave. 5 tip for HJ. Very nice. Second time. 4 for hht and she wanted $.6 for FS. I refused to go higher than $. She agreed to a $ if I would be very quick. She didn't allow me to touch anything. Nice TS both times.

Once to a place on Dobson south of Guadalupe on west side of street. Attractive Asian probably 35-40. Paid. 4 for hhr. Told me free TS. At the start of massage, she was immediately blowing in my ear and asking me what I want. She wanted $.2 and I countered with $. She said since it was my first time she'd accept $. Before starting, another customer came in the door. Let me take my time, but when finished, refused me the TS because another customer was waiting. Had my tip already so I had no recourse. I argued with her and told her I would never return.

Went to place on NE corner of Ray and Rural. Excellent massage for full hour. Paid. 4 (Craigs' List special) plus. 2 tip. No extras and I didn't ask. Very skilled and I should go back again. But I see they're only advertising their regular. 6 rate on Craig's List now.

Went to a place in Awatukee that was advertising on Craig's List for. 4 for hr. Excellent massage with no extras. Gave. 2 tip.

Went to a place in Scottsdale on McKellips. Paid. 4 for hhr and got HJ for. 6 tip. Made mistake of telling her how much money I had with her when negotiating for something more. Suddenly she wouldn't accept any tip under. 6.

Here's what I learned.

1. AMP's don't seem to understand customer service and repeat customers. They seem to see in the context of that visit only and how much money they can get.

2. It seems like the places with excellent massages don't do extras while the places that do extras give crappy massages.

3. It would be nice if they could have some easy way (like a sign) that could tell a customer to wait instead of interrupting my massage to go tell the customer that.

4. The only value with an AMP is an excellent massage without extras. It seems like there are three choices: massage. 6 / hr; poor massage with HJ. 8 to $; poor massage with FS $.4 to $.6. Of course at $.6, would you rather it be a 40-something AMP or some 20-something escort? I need to try the escort ads next.

I will only go back to an AMP for an excellent hour massage. The rest, in my opinion, are ripoffs. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Duckman77; 1105238]As of this past August, I had never been to an AMP and knew zero about them. I started going and have drawn some conclusions about them. Here's my summary of my visits from August. November.

4. The only value with an AMP is an excellent massage without extras. It seems like there are three choices: massage. 6 / hr; poor massage with HJ. 8 to $; poor massage with FS $.4 to $.6. Of course at $.6, would you rather it be a 40-something AMP or some 20-something escort? I need to try the escort ads next.

I will only go back to an AMP for an excellent hour massage. The rest, in my opinion, are ripoffs. YMMV. [/QUOTE]. You can find them. But it generally takes repeat visits and they have to get comfortable with

You before you get the tip lower. 8 to $

Some (like the Oriental Gals and Asian Girl / Gal chain?) are ripoffs. Hot gals but the ask.

$$ for FS. (no thanks!)

[QUOTE=Bubba1979; 1099455]Unfortunately for Ol Bubba, his first meeting with Blond Jesse from Backpage was delayed due to unforseen circumstances, and Bubba had to go " a huntin." I remembered that Silver moon was sold to a new owner. (merciifully) and perhaps hanky panky was back on the menu.

I had been to this place recently, and saw that an Eastern Spa Alumni was working there and sure enough no extra's were available. A sad day indeed.

So, when I found out that it was under new management I thought it might be worth a gander.

Enjoy! [/QUOTE]During the 3 months of so that Asian Silver Moon was under it's prior owner, I went there 4 times for massages and spent a lot of time talking with the owner both while she was giving me massages and afterwards when she didn't have another customer waiting. I also had a conversation with her husband one day. I'll give you some background why it was sold.

The owner (around 40 years old) had come over to the USA (with her son) about a year and a half ago to marry a guy about 20 years her senior. They met on one of those online dating sites. She came over and married him. I got the impression that she married him for the green card for her and her son.

Anyway, the massage business was hers and paid for by a loan from one of her family members back in China. When she sold it in November, she got about double what she put into it. A pretty good investment to double the money in 3 months. She had worked in another massage business in Chandler prior. She took a 5-day massage class in California, but was prohibited from getting the Arizona license because she lacked the training Arizona requires. Anyway, she gave a very good massage and was very skilled at doing this. The massages she gave me were sensual, but not sexual as she never provided any extras. She did have a facilities license from the state of Arizona.

The business had security cameras and her husband saw the recorded video and saw her getting too familiar with some customers. He basically gave her an ultimatum. Divorce or sell the business and save the marriage. She chose to sell the business. Quite hypocritical of him because in October, he got arrested for being caught in his car being serviced by a SW and had a 15-day jail sentence to serve probably in November.

Although I expect that most of the strip mall type massage places aren't staffed by Arizona licensed massage therapists, she got caught for hiring women to give massages who weren't licensed. She said she was looking at several thousands of dollars in fines as she's the owner of the facility. She said the judge delayed accepting her guilty plea and recommended that she talk with an immigration lawyer first to understand how this could affect her green card status. I don't know how this eventually turned out.

She always told me that she was trying to run a massage business without extras, but her husband told me that she kept removing the sign he made at the front entrance that said "No Happy Endings." I don't know whether extras were being offered or not. I never asked for any from her and just enjoyed regular massages and the conversations.

I haven't kept contact with her or her husband since early November. I'd be surprised if she's ever in the massage business again. She told me that she didn't enjoy the business and was wanting to own a restaurant.

I expect that many of the AMPs have interesting stories of who owns them and who the women are that work there.

After eating dinner last night I noticed a two hot white girls going in a suite with a massage sign above the door. I have not noticed the place before so I have no report. After I returned home I checked BP & found an ad but no report here. Have any of you been to "Ultimate Massage for You" on Scottsdale road south of Oak? Is it a jack shack or is it a massage only?

[url]http://phoenix.backpage.com/BodyRubs/ultimate-massage-for-you-100/11766823[/url]

After Ol Bubba's "no go" with Pamela (see report) I needed a sure thing. Was roaming Craigslist and came upon this ad. [url]http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/thp/2116696897.html[/url]

35 for half sounded good, so off I ran. Actually was trying to go to Silver moon again to see Tina. Wow. But they were closed early. Dang.

Anyway, was greeted by a semi young Asian girl named "Julie." She said she was from Shang Hai. She was cute and happy. Actually singing as we headed down the hall of shame.

I noticed rails above the bed so backwalking must be on the menu. Anyway, massage was weak so Ol Bubba cut to the chase. I flipped over like Mitch Gaylord and immediately started nursing like a new born calf. Actually she put up no fight at all. Her top came down faster than a Vegas hotel demolition. I must say she had an incredible set of antlers. C cups for sure. Friggin huge and thick pencil erasers. All Ol Bubba needed was a warm blanket and a lullaby and he would have gone to sleep like a newborn.

She immediately latched on to Little Bubba and was working at light speed. I swear it was a blur. Couldn't make out her hand and lower arm. I finally got her to slow down a little and my "dream" came to a merciful end.

Interesting place. Very clean and well decorated. For. 85 total damage it was a value indeed.

Two thumbs up for Julie and J. J. 's. (For some reason I got that old commercial about J. J."the king of beepers" stuck in my head the whole time. That is old school phoenix for some of you guys.)

Hey Goldcoast. This girl looked alot like the infamous Li Li. I wonder where she went?

[QUOTE=Bubba1979;1106943]Two thumbs up for Julie and J. J. 's. (For some reason I got that old commercial about J. J."the king of beepers" stuck in my head the whole time. That is old school phoenix for some of you guys.) ?[/QUOTE]I'm JJ. I'm the Owner. And I'm the Kiiiing of the Beepers! . Thanks for the memories!