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Chelsea is back and advertising on BP therapeutic for. 6 / hr.
[url]http://providence.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/chelsea-is-back-60-professional-massage-for-u/2167301[/url]
Has anyone seen her since she started back up? Is she still offering sensual? I never saw her before the law changed and she stopped advertising, but I always wanted too. It's hard to find a non-asian independent in Providence, except at G&A, which, while quite good, is expensive.
[QUOTE=Italian Monkey; 1125389]Decided to go to OS this past Saturday, I usually go to CH, but after all the good feed back here, thats where I ended up. Lucky with a parkig spot right at the front door, up the stairs I go and get into the rom with "Tina" spinner. 5'2 maybye like 100lbs, hot be cup or slightly smaller. Table shower not bad quick tub on the johnson, steam room no longer than 2min, thats fine can do with out. She asked if I had been before, I reply no, I usually go to CH, she says then you know all the services, I say of course with a devilish smile. I lay down she wispers in my ear what you want, I say everything please, she says ok I be right back, leave tip on tavle. So I do she comes back counts it (1. 4) she seemed like I should give more, says if session is good, and the points to her bra and dose the jesture to tip inti bra when done. I just nod my head. So she dose a light back rub clothes come off, rubs tits on my back, on the flip licks the boys, puts the hat on with the mouth, gets on top rides, then I sit up with her on top, licke her soft tits, Then I get on top, Then doggie, then my fav, she lies on stomach with legs closed and I pump away loose it! Not really bad she is hot, but definitly tried to up sell. Mamasan asked me on way out if she took care of me, I reply yes, and I will be right back, go to car and grab another. 2 go back up and Tina is waiting. Oh well Is the proce goin up be / see I personally think 2. At these AMPs are enough. Would like to get two girls tho. Anyhow would I return. YES.
Body 9.
Service 8.
Overall 9. This place is great can't complain except the trying of the upsell. Can't blame them there in it for the money. [/QUOTE]If you keep giving in to the upsell 160 is what will be expected. It wasn't that long ago when 120 was what was expected. I'm anything but cheap but enough is enough, stand your ground so they won't be squeezing you dry (your money that is).
Didn't really plan this ahead, but heard new girl had arrived. They said she was "Ivy" type, in other words tall and very hot. So when I got back in town from NYC, couldn't resist, first stop was OS. Now while I wouldn't quite put her at Ivy level in a visual sense, she is nevertheless very hot. I can probably say 8. 5 for sure. Just for a frame of reference and using the Foxy standard, she would be top 25% in Foxy, and on a current basis w / be top working asian dancer IMHO in any club in town. Yumi is based out of Tampa, in america 4 years and in the business approx 2 yrs She's 5 ft 6 and approx 120 lbs, but didn't ask age, guessing mid to late 20's (super model type "Ivy" from summer 2010 is 5 ft 9 inches and 120 lbs) This girl presents very well, is very charming, very personable, and down to earth. Augmented "C", very good job too as I could hardly tell, great ass, light to mid-tone skin, no tanning just has great skin and great complexion.
Did the usual things, went very well (you will notice that great ass). And as for the rest. Again it went GFE right away (definitely for the reasons I've cited elsewhere) Intentionally skipped DATY because the GFE was working about as well as it could be, and most noticeable with this woman: if you happen to go GFE with her, when she is lying down with her head on the pillow and those lights are set just right, this girl really sparkles, you can really see the beauty, she just radiates it outward. With her lying down and with me seated up, but sitting sideways but with my head and shoulder turned facing toward her, it was sort a kissing thing at a 45 degree angle. Not DFK, not sexual per se, lots of whispering and small talk going on, only light to moderate pressure on her lips, probably the type you would do in real life if you really like a woman. These Korean beauties can be absolutely amazing in a GFE situation. Treat them nice and they really respond in kind.
[QUOTE=Smoke Screen;1125772]If you keep giving in to the upsell 160 is what will be expected. It wasn't that long ago when 120 was what was expected. I'm anything but cheap but enough is enough, stand your ground so they won't be squeezing you dry (your money that is).[/QUOTE]There is nothing in the report which indicates anything other than standard session, which should entail the standard tip. I am not cheap either, I'm helping make Mercedes payments for some of these providers, but let's not let them force up the price this way. I have been known to drop a ten or twenty for something more exquisite than the usual fare, but with the economy as it is, they should be doing the extra nice things to get our return business.
[QUOTE=SMS 54;1125874]There is nothing in the report which indicates anything other than standard session, which should entail the standard tip. I am not cheap either, I'm helping make Mercedes payments for some of these providers, but let's not let them force up the price this way. I have been known to drop a ten or twenty for something more exquisite than the usual fare, but with the economy as it is, they should be doing the extra nice things to get our return business.[/QUOTE]I have followed this string of comments and did want to add something about OS, beyond the report. Believe me when I say that you will find the youngest and perhaps cutest providers (lets not kid ourselves, they are providers). However, I refuse to return there for a number of reasons which I have encountered among enough providers there over a long enough span of time to make what I see common practice there. Upsell is just the tip of the iceberg.
A word about me, I am jovial, easy going, caring and a tad over 50 with an interest in Asian women.
Each time I have visited OS, I have always sensed a "stop and shop" mentality of get them in and get them out, with the emphasis on "out". I have never been there for an hour, I have always been asked, very early on, for the tip up front and I have been approached with an upsell 80% of the time. Once so bad that I left after 1/2 hour as she refused the massage without the tip and it was time for next. Was she HOT, yup. And greedy.
I had thought that with the change in the law and the adoption of the new AMP standard or really not asking about the tip but gratefully accepting it at the end of an enjoyable experience that OS would have figured this out and changed their business practice. I see that this is not the case which reveals to me that they are either protected from a raid (likely) or each girl is allowed to independently do their own thing and no one cares. Either way, it becomes a pain in the ass to patrons.
When you give into the upsell, you kill it for everyone. What is needed is to walk out and thereby give a message that I'm mad as hell and I not going to take it anymore.
I am reading of the upsell with regularity, which tells me that business must be off, so they are trying to get more with less guys around. I also never read of anyone getting an hour of their valuable time.
With all of this in mind, I have kept away from there and visit a couple of other places where patrons are treated with a degree of dignity and not just a commodity to be fluffed, folded and put away for next.
[QUOTE=SMS 54;1125874]There is nothing in the report which indicates anything other than standard session, which should entail the standard tip. I am not cheap either, I'm helping make Mercedes payments for some of these providers, but let's not let them force up the price this way. I have been known to drop a ten or twenty for something more exquisite than the usual fare, but with the economy as it is, they should be doing the extra nice things to get our return business.[/QUOTE]Hi, Guy's, I agree that we should not cave into these upsells! I am not trying to start anything but caving into an upsell is a rookie mistake and we have to remember that we are the customer and in reality we control the market. I still only pay. 120. That said I do like to show my appreciation so I will pick up a gift for the house and a gift for my favorite. These gifts don't have to be expensive and the good will goes a long way. The more money you give the more of a customer you are. The more gifts you give you are more of a friend and friends are treated better than customers IMHO.
[QUOTE=Italian Monkey; 1125389]Decided to go to OS this past Saturday, I usually go to CH, but after all the good feed back here, thats where I ended up. Lucky with a parkig spot right at the front door, up the stairs I go and get into the rom with "Tina" spinner. 5'2 maybye like 100lbs, hot be cup or slightly smaller. Table shower not bad quick tub on the johnson, steam room no longer than 2min, thats fine can do with out. She asked if I had been before, I reply no, I usually go to CH, she says then you know all the services, I say of course with a devilish smile. I lay down she wispers in my ear what you want, I say everything please, she says ok I be right back, leave tip on tavle. So I do she comes back counts it (1. 4) she seemed like I should give more, says if session is good, and the points to her bra and dose the jesture to tip inti bra when done. I just nod my head. So she dose a light back rub clothes come off, rubs tits on my back, on the flip licks the boys, puts the hat on with the mouth, gets on top rides, then I sit up with her on top, licke her soft tits, Then I get on top, Then doggie, then my fav, she lies on stomach with legs closed and I pump away loose it! Not really bad she is hot, but definitly tried to up sell. Mamasan asked me on way out if she took care of me, I reply yes, and I will be right back, go to car and grab another. 2 go back up and Tina is waiting. Oh well Is the proce goin up be / see I personally think 2. At these AMPs are enough. Would like to get two girls tho. Anyhow would I return. YES.
Body 9.
Service 8.
Overall 9. This place is great can't complain except the trying of the upsell. Can't blame them there in it for the money. [/QUOTE]This is not good news! 2 reports 2 different girls both doing the upsell! Guys you really need to hold your ground regardless of how hot she is. These girls talk and if one gets a higher rate they all think they can do same! I remember it being $100 tip and that was not that long ago! Don't let this go to $160 please. I never pay more then the $140 and I get 110% GFE with the girl I see, granted I usually stick to one girl but I would not allow an upsell even with her. This is another reason I don't go to OS, the girls really think they are on a different level there.
[QUOTE=Muffythediver;1126026]This is not good news! 2 reports 2 different girls both doing the upsell! Guys you really need to hold your ground regardless of how hot she is. These girls talk and if one gets a higher rate they all think they can do same! I remember it being $100 tip and that was not that long ago! Don't let this go to $160 please. I never pay more then the $140 and I get 110% GFE with the girl I see, granted I usually stick to one girl but I would not allow an upsell even with her. This is another reason I don't go to OS, the girls really think they are on a different level there.[/QUOTE]Well said and agree with you 100% $140 is MORE than enough. (a little too much if you ask me)
I was very fortunate to recently visit with Ruby and new girl Sandy. I found them both to be very attentive and much to my liking. I could not pick any one over any other, this is an all star line-up, in this old fool's humble opinion. Mama was her usual self as well.
[QUOTE=SMS 54;1126453]I was very fortunate to recently visit with Ruby and new girl Sandy. I found them both to be very attentive and much to my liking. I could not pick any one over any other, this is an all star line-up, in this old fool's humble opinion. Mama was her usual self as well.[/QUOTE]I was there yesterday and had one of the greatest times I have had to date. And I have been in the game a long time! Saw Ruby also and she was INCREDIBLE! 1021 just really makes you feel at home and wanted, not just the next guy mentality like some other places. Mama (Sophia) is very hot too. I briefly met "Cindy" (possibly the Sandy you speak of) and she looked very hot.
I was thinking of this shitty little state and how fucked up everything is but I must say that we are incredibly lucky men to have these beautiful little Korean girls!
Muffy
I start with the ending note that. Yep it was a great massage. The girls generally follow up, I say 100 is all I have- period! After the session I generally pay them. 4 as a extra tip if are up to their job. So pay them the right. Set standard amount for the services and keep their expectations low.
[QUOTE=Yellowfever023;1126003]Hi, Guy's, I agree that we should not cave into these upsells! I am not trying to start anything but caving into an upsell is a rookie mistake and we have to remember that we are the customer and in reality we control the market. I still only pay. 120. That said I do like to show my appreciation so I will pick up a gift for the house and a gift for my favorite. These gifts don't have to be expensive and the good will goes a long way. The more money you give the more of a customer you are. The more gifts you give you are more of a friend and friends are treated better than customers IMHO.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SMS 54;1126453]I was very fortunate to recently visit with Ruby and new girl Sandy. I found them both to be very attentive and much to my liking. I could not pick any one over any other, this is an all star line-up, in this old fool's humble opinion. Mama was her usual self as well.[/QUOTE]Had another stellar visit with Ruby today. Sophia asked me if I wanted to try the new girl and I reminded her of my M. O. Regarding new girls. I like to see a favorite and after the session have the new girl introduced to me. As I tell Sophia that way I have a nice memory of the new arrival to think about until I return. So after my session with Ruby Sophia brought Sandy out to meet me. I have to say I was pleased with her looks and demeanor and will request her on my next visit. Sophia tells me she already has had some repeat customers even though she has only been there a few days.
I agree with SMS the lineup has been exceptional these days. Sophia and I were talking about customer service etc. She said she makes sure to train the new girls and insist that they never ask the clients for money. Now not strictly in the sense of LE entrapment but she coaches them to accept what we as customers deem as fair. She is of the opinion that everything works out this way in the long run. In my 40+ visits here over the last 13 months I have never entered into negotiations with any of the girls. Granted I do not usually follow the standard "face down please" massage then tease then flip when the proverbial question of "what do you want" is asked. After the TS I like to enter right into some foreplay heading to FS activities. I have always paid them at the end of the session after they have dressed me, most of the time the donation is never counted it in my presence and they have always smiled and thanked me appreciatively. It is more of an honor system here. For me any hint at upselling durins a session is a surefire buzzkill.Now if someone comes there and truly underpays them and stiffs them so to speak I'm sure it won't be tolerated for their next visit.
I agree with Yellow Fever that little gifts can go a long way. I usually try and bring a little something. Today I brought them some tangerines. It is the gesture that counts. As these girls including the mamasan actually live at the spa 24/7 any little acts of human kindness and thoughtfulness are appreciated and help to break up their monotonous lifestyle. I asked Sophia about the caliber of customers that visit the spa and she told me that she finds most of us funny and very nice gentlemen. Now if someone comes there and truly underpays and stiffs them so to speak I'm sure it won't be tolerated for the next visit.
My spa experiences began at One Spa. Begininning in the spring of 2009 I visited them 13 times and had mostly above average experiences including GFE for the standard rate. For my inaugural session I went with the standard after the flip negotiation which ended in FS. I wasn't comfortable with the mid session interruption so to speak getting up to retrieve my funds so on the very next visit I started handing them the standard donation with the house fee at the outset. I did have a girl hint at a tip once which for me was uncomfortable. My last session at One Spa was in the fall of 2009 when one of the girls promised me DATY then proceeded to hold back and tell me I could do it with her "next time". I thought to myself at that moment there will be no next time with this girl-she has just blown it. Then in FS she started with the "come for me baby" rush technique. That was my last visit to One Spa. As the place became more popular I could see the trend of moving the clients through quickly developing. I'll never forget my first visit to 1021 where when grilled by Sophia if I had ever been there before, how did I hear about them etc. I related my One Spa stories to her and proclaimed "us mongers hate to be rushed". She was then and remains now a good listener as to how to keep our repeat business. I travel over 90 minutes each way from my home to visit her girls and I often remind her that since I left One Spa that fateful day I have never returned. I have never liked the number system people use to rate looks, performance etc. Even when I used to visit One Spa I always asked the mamasan to bring me someone with natural breasts. The girls with augmentation and extra makeup were never for me. For sure I met some beauties there but attitude, personality and service are king. I have certainly met my share of beauties@1021 as well but it is their high level of attention to my needs that keeps me coming back. It is true that we are in charge and really are the ones who set the price for their services but once a few raise their donation the floodgates seem to open. It is only human nature that once the other girls hear about it they will start to expect more.
Well I have always, and I mean always never givin up into the upsell. I have'nt been to an AMP in quite some time, (when ever my last AMP post was, that was it) Figured I had left OS well taken care of. As "Tina" had asked right off the bat with the upselling, so just with anticapation, I had said ok, ok when were done I'll give you another. 2 but its in my car, I could have just screwed but what if I was to come back at a later fate and not get stellar service? I know they rotate the girls often, but the mamasan is usually the same one. It will not happen again tho I my add. 2. It will be as usual (.6 at the door and 1. 4 for services) or maybe even less next time to recoop my. 2 for this last visit. Don't worry felllow mongers these women as we know will take what you bring, within reason. And I don't wan't to wreck it for the rest. Anyhow, Thats how my visit went FIGURED I'd let ya know, I'm more in the line of the phone chat line girls from the thread that can be found in the massachusetts section, and sometimes a cute newby WSW. Where the rates are cheaper.
Was talking with Sophia today about her rotation policy. We all have our favorites and are oftentimes sad when we've heard they've gone back to NY. She likes to keep one mainstay girl who's overall popularity is at a higher level. The other 2 girls will see more limited tours of duty. I had expressed my displeasure at the recent departure of Suzie who I had a fabulous time with. Sophia said "customer see her 2 or 3 times then complain they want to see someone new". Now granted I had only seen her once and I guess there is some validity to what she says as it has happened to me where initially I was head over heels with a specific girl and after say the 5th session the same spark wasn't there. But then there are always those girls that we just love seeing over and over again and in a lot of cases it is our own personal interest or YMMV.
I cannot dispute that the current top tier position held by Ruby is totally justified as she is my current favorite there and I lnow some others feel the same way and as far as I'm concerned I hope she never leaves. Sophia put Tina in the same category and I have no disagreements with that assessment either. I know if I picked 5 girls as favorites for the past year they would not necessarily be the favorites of others and so it goes. Anyway I saw Sandy today and was not disappointed. Very, very friendly little girl.
Due to the cold weather Sophia was wearing a sort of black sweatpants and matching top outfit where I felt she looked incredibly sexy and told her so. She usually wears her black lingerie type dress and she thinks I'm crazy but I find that when you see pay for play girls in street clothes after usually seeing them wearing sexy attire all the time it has a reverse effect and I find them even more attractive.
BTW, I am on a fruit kick and brought them some organic apples and bananas today. Told Sophia I want to make sure her girls are eating healthy. As usual they were very appreciative of the gift.
[QUOTE=DaddysLookin; 1125991]I have followed this string of comments and did want to add something about OS, beyond the report. Believe me when I say that you will find the youngest and perhaps cutest providers (lets not kid ourselves, they are providers). However, I refuse to return there for a number of reasons which I have encountered among enough providers there over a long enough span of time to make what I see common practice there. Upsell is just the tip of the iceberg.
Each time I have visited OS, I have always sensed a "stop and shop" mentality of get them in and get them out, with the emphasis on "out". I have never been there for an hour, I have always been asked, very early on, for the tip up front and I have been approached with an upsell 80% of the time. Once so bad that I left after 1/2 hour as she refused the massage without the tip and it was time for next. Was she HOT, yup. And greedy.
With all of this in mind, I have kept away from there and visit a couple of other places where patrons are treated with a degree of dignity and not just a commodity to be fluffed, folded and put away for next.[/QUOTE]Agree.
I moved here last year and one of the first places I went was OS. The first few times there were amazing. I was completely spoiled by Sasha (not sure if she's the same one there now) , went GFE immediately even though I only had 1. 2 for tip. My follow up session a few weeks later was with Ivy. Again, completely went beyond my expectations and guaranteed that I'd be an OS regular for a while. But then things went downhill from there. Girls started asking for money up front, left the room multiple times for whatever reason, then just being so-so at the end. Sasha and Ivy kept me there for 1. 25-1. 5 hours, but lately it's been about 50 minutes. I go hoping things have changed, only to be disappointed.
Contrast that with my last visit at 1021 with Suzy, where I was there for almost 2 hours. All the girls are friendly and seem to be in a different league as far as customer service goes. Sophia is the icing on the cake. I wish she'd come out of retirement. .
[QUOTE=DaddysLookin; 1125991]Each time I have visited OS, I have always sensed a "stop and shop" mentality of get them in and get them out, with the emphasis on "out". I have never been there for an hour, I have always been asked, very early on, for the tip up front and I have been approached with an upsell 80% of the time. Once so bad that I left after 1/2 hour as she refused the massage without the tip and it was time for next. Was she HOT, yup. And greedy.
I also have stopped going to OS a long time ago because of the upsell and more importantly for being shorted on time. Granted most of the girls there are young and pretty, but they are also young and pretty at Bali, DT, FE & most of the others. Maybe not quite as young but for me 30 is as good as 24. I always manage to enjoy myself no matter who I'm with, whether she is a 10 or a 6, as long as the attitude is there and she is not fat. It's all in what you make it to be.
(no doubt with super hotties around town, and especially at OS recently, there are legit issues in regards to tight turnaround times with clients, in and out sometimes as fast as possible, so each person must balance the tradeoffs. Also of course there is much more than looks involved with these girls, its just one factor in the package, but at OS its what they are noted for, so I will try to give you my best impression of the overall look and attittude this girl conveyed to me.)
Just arrived for 3 or 4 week rotation, (new)"Bonnie", age 25, from NYC. 5 ft 3 inches tall, somewhat long legs for her height. 105 lbs, indicates a "'C" augmentation but looks like a small "D" to me, but in any case they look very good. Walks with an understated but very sexy swing, has mid tone chocolate (natural untanned I believe) skin, very cute face. Could easily pass for 19 years old or even younger. Got the job via an advertisement in a Korean language newspaper in Queens NY. More evidence the bad econonomy by increasing the numbers of applicants, is kicking up the visual quality of spa girls. The key to her look is her cuteness, and on that basis I can honestly say she is a solid 9level spa girl, a level rarely ever encountered around town back in 2007.
English OK, been in america 2 yrs and SAYS she's been in the business one year. Wants to go to school she says. However, it seems as if she has far less experience than she is indicating. (e. G her technique is not that good) She mentioned only Atantic City, NJ as a place she's worked. My guess she has only worked a month or two in Atlantic City before arriving in Providence, and may want to avoid any work in her NYC home base area. Seems to have no interest in working in either Honolulu or Los Angeles, apparently wants to be closer to home.
I've mentioned ultra hot spa girls around town before, including "K","Ivy","Lucy" "Heidi","Ellie" and "Julie", and several recently including (new) Jackie. In this case when I called to make a general inquiry, the mamasan urged me to see this girl ASAP ("she's waiting for you now") LOL. Of course I couldn't resist. So one of the other girls (Bebe maybe) greets me at the door and brings me to the room. Then a minute later the mamasan arrives at the room with the new girl to show her off to me. WOW, and that's even after being tipped off how hot she was. The viseral reaction you get when you see this girl, who by the way has a strong resemblance to 9 level Foxy stunner (Thai / Itialian)"Taysia" This girl is so hot and so cute that if you were only 18 with the libido running peak level, and you saw this girl walk into the room in the sexy outfit she was wearing, readying for FS, you'd probably pop right then and there.
Very cute face, although almost too young looking, great great body, nice ass, very sexy look overall. IMHO slightly oversized "C's" but in any case working very well for her, almost giving you the impression she is tipping forward, but note she is also somewhat slender. First impression for what's it worth: Playboy model, (true). Maybe a bikini shot on the beach playing with a beach ball, it would a knockout photo. Now I hope someone can at least see her in a lineup in the next 3 to 4 weeks to give a 2nd opinion. The rate of super hot women now arriving in town is probably exceeding last years rate.
Her personality is overall good, lots of laughs, good sense of humor, tries hard, probably a bit shy, and she no doubt is a "no kiss" type spa girl, except for minor pecks of course, but I did kiss her almost full level, but it was one way, so I backed off alot, plus I felt guilty given she looks 19 years old. Sort of like Tina in that regard, you know you are breaking her rules, and you really don't want to push it too much. Plus she's defintiely sonewhat new to the business. Did the usual stuff, (reaction good on one) however as I said her technique (e. G on CG) is not very good. Its seems more like inexperience vs not putting effort into it. As far as the overall sensation, not too good. Anyone know if they vary the protection? With some girls its great, but I've noticed this now and then with certain girls, its almost as if they using ultra thick? Instead of ultra thin. Maybe less chance of breakage, so newer girls get thicker? By the way, none of this has anything to do with lubrication, whether enhanced or female-generated.
On Foxy standard, top 3 without any doubt. With her 5 inch or so heels, and her swing. I got a pretty good preview of what she might look like in a club, just to compare of course. She would be absolutlely smoking hot, top or near top in any club in town. Nothing like her at Caddy that I've seen recently.
One Spa has done it again. For those that like now and then spending some time with a high end cutie, she's one to look at at least.
I believe they are all borderline 8's or higher right now.
(Jackie,) ex korean high school cheerleader, and turns out was a bit more wild in high school than she first admitted, she's also pretty wild here too, (Bonnie) , forget GFE, absolutely impossible, cannot be bought with big dollars either, maybe Brad Pitt types on this site can pull it off, and they can report it in here, doesn't even like earlobe kissing, all this confirmed in a 2nd session (Nicole) hot and will offer GFE select, great kisser, very pretty, smart girl about the business, did 2nd session, and this girl is very very charming (B) to me looks Hawaiin and on the hot side (Tiny) no personal experience, but fairly hot (Yumi) very classy, good GFE (Bebe) tall with alot of makeup, early 30's? Fairly hot overall (Moo-Moo) The Mamasan jokes about being the 8th beauty here now, says she's ready, she's kind of cute actually.
I am coming into prov this week would like a good massage anr are&t by pretty naked girl. I I have gone thru your post back until November everyone does FS I know I can get are&t at FS place but massage is usually not as good the girls want FS money please reply here or pm.
Thanks bigguyct
[QUOTE=Bigguyct; 1130747]I am coming into prov this week would like a good massage anr are&t by pretty naked girl. I I have gone thru your post back until November everyone does FS I know I can get are&t at FS place but massage is usually not as good the girls want FS money please reply here or pm.
Thanks bigguyct[/QUOTE]Go to lily`s spa admiral st, providence. Good massage and pretty young girls. But no naked girl. Very sexy. Hope this helps.
Paid another visit to OS recently. I was not as happy, and can relate to what guys are saying here about the customer service aspect of this place being lacking in favor of simply stunning talent. Went on a Tues night around holidays, place was packed, had to wait 15 minutes, saw another patron pass by and all. When "Eve" finally peeked her head in and grabbed me, I was initially happy. She had a pretty face, was very slim, maybe 105 or so, about 5'4", A cups, pegged her for late 20's early 30's. TS was quite good, massage was decent but not memorable, main event was, unfortunately, a dud. Was not into me enjoying her body, little DATY but she didn't seem into it. I really couldn't enjoy this girl. She seemed to want me to get it over. Perhaps mechanical, but for me it was more that she was not at all affectionate, a long long way from GFE. This did nothing for me, and combined with the large meal and more alcohol than I should have had I had trouble getting up for this session. She was a real trooper and ensured value, but it was not nearly as enjoyable as my previous visit. Tipped standard, but probably should have tipped less. Noob mistake.
Would like to try 1021, somewhat apprehensive about going there. If any regulars would care to offer me a name drop I would appreciate the PM. Thanks to all posters here as always.
I guess things were just too good lately, and I got spoiled with my last several visits. I arrived with high hopes of some sort of repeat of my last journey when I was mesmerized by Ruby and Sandy. This time I was shown to a room and there was no discussion of who might be my therapist for the evening, and Sophia returned with yet another new girl, Dani. It's not that she was that bad, but there was no comparison to the last few weeks / months.
Not too attentive, no where even close to GFE, lousy almost non-existant English skills, average TS at best. At the outset, the massage was too hard and it took 3 times before I got her to lighten up. After that it got a little better, with some pre-flip teasing. After a while I just turned on my side and hugged her for a while, and finally she removed her clothes, applied a cover and administered a fairly mechanical CBJ and some dead fish mish. She was also a dedicated clock watcher, which is not my usual experience here. I did get the full hour, but just barely. All in all a sub-par performance for my favorite spa. Will not repeat with this provider, will wait as long as necessary for someone better, or will walk next time.
My intention was to try to get a second hour with HE only for house fee and HE type tip, but I was so disappointed, on the spur of the moment on the way home I stopped at 753 in CF for a very enjoyable non-Asian experience, which I definitely will repeat.
[QUOTE=SMS 54; 1131033]I guess things were just too good lately, and I got spoiled with my last several visits. I arrived with high hopes of some sort of repeat of my last journey when I was mesmerized by Ruby and Sandy. This time I was shown to a room and there was no discussion of who might be my therapist for the evening, and Sophia returned with yet another new girl, Dani. It's not that she was that bad, but there was no comparison to the last few weeks / months.
Not too attentive, no where even close to GFE, lousy almost non-existant English skills, average TS at best. At the outset, the massage was too hard and it took 3 times before I got her to lighten up. After that it got a little better, with some pre-flip teasing. After a while I just turned on my side and hugged her for a while, and finally she removed her clothes, applied a cover and administered a fairly mechanical CBJ and some dead fish mish. She was also a dedicated clock watcher, which is not my usual experience here. I did get the full hour, but just barely. All in all a sub-par performance for my favorite spa. Will not repeat with this provider, will wait as long as necessary for someone better, or will walk next time.
My intention was to try to get a second hour with HE only for house fee and HE type tip, but I was so disappointed, on the spur of the moment on the way home I stopped at 753 in CF for a very enjoyable non-Asian experience, which I definitely will repeat. [/QUOTE]I concur with all of the above. On my last visit I too had Janie or Dani. I broke my rule of meeting the "new girl" first after a session with a regular and then at least have some sort of visual and first impression for the next time. Although her body was not as toned I can get by that if the service and GFE level are there. She was certainly friendly enough but it seemed too contrived.
The TS was probably the worst I ever had. I didn't think she was ever going to stop pouring buckets of water on me. It was obvious she is new to all this. As she washed me and moved down my body to my midsection she stopped and asked me "is it ok to touch it"? This was a bad sign especially at a FS spa which I have frequented for some time now.
Back in the room everytime I tried to give her even a little kiss she jerked her head away with lightning reflexes. I tried to loosen her up by offering to give her a massage and she just lay there like a corpse with absolutely no reactions when I stroked her and kissed her in an erotic fashion. I turned her over and lay her on her side with me up on the table and put my arms around her. She moved her head down the table towards my chest so that our faces weren't in close proximity. She began stroking me and loosened up a bit with some sexy utterances and I laid her on her back to try some DATY. She did become very wet but just lay there lifeless. When I sensed she was having some pleasure she seemed to stifle any expression on her face.
We moved to FS missionary and this is where it got better as she was grinning and moaning a bit but everytime I lowered myself to giver her a kiss she moved away. Now I understand YMMV and not every girl is going to want to passionately DFK but she took it to extremes. We stayed in mish for awhile when I asked for doggie. I don"t think she understood as her english was practically non existent but I managed to get her on her hands and knees and pounded a bit and then lowered her further down and afterwards moved to lazy doggie which she seemed to enjoy. Then at her request we switched back to mish and she did have an enthusiastic look on her face so I think she was enjoying the FS action and certainly wasn't rushing me. FS went on for quite some time and I pulled out and asked her to finish me with her hand as I cupped her ass and gently fingered her from behind. She was enjoying this and with a big smile brought me to climax.
During DATY and FS positions she did utter one word reponses of "Coming" meaning I assume she was close to or actually coming but once again she seemed to try her best to stifle any pleasure of fun. I know some girls actually do have fun and others are good at acting but she was at the other end of the spectrum. After she dressed me we hugged and she grinned widely and said "you ask for Janie next time". At that point I reminded her that I like to kiss and she kissed me totally closed mouth with her eyes closed for about a 1/4 of a second and said "sure". Obviously she was divorced from any sense of reality bordering on delusional to think that I would want to repeat with her after the mostly lifeless session. I too caught her frequently looking at the clock during the session although she never said anything about time. Problem is with a girl like this I am not concerned about a lengthy visit and may even become a clock watcher myself so to speak and get the hell out of there.
Sophia came in and asked how it was and I voiced my displeasure. You know I always feel bad for the girl when I have to speak frankly and in actuality I have only had a couple of bad sessions here. I told her the girl is very nice but her service was horrible and I would never see her again. I also reminded her that I drive a long way and waited all week to visit. Sophia said there are two new girls currently there named Janie and Jessica, who I did not meet, and Ruby. Janie and Jessica are being sent home and Cherry and Sandy are returning. When Suzie was sent home recently I told Sophia I wasn't happy to hear this as I found her delightful. Sophia said "customer want to try new girl". She said after customer try girl once or twice they say they don't want to see her anymore. Now I don't know who these customers are but all I can say is thanks a lot as a girl like Suzie is replaced by "new girls" like Janie and Jessica. Be careful what you wish for as the saying goes. I tell her that there are some of us who are happy with the same few girls as long as their service is good. She broke up some good rotations in the recent past listening to these customers. I will step up my efforts to remind Sophia of the pitfalls and negative effect of switching out good regulars for the sole purpose of bringing in someone new. I may have become spoiled but it is it is important for us to give feedback to the mamasan when service is not up to our expectations. Ultimately although we sometimes forget we are in charge via the pursestrings and they need to be reminded of this on a regular basis.
YA
Rarely do I post here, but I have enjoyed the hobby for years. I have followed closely the reports of several seniors who I trust. Yard, Muffy, Little Tony, Sms. To name a few. I have been going to 1021 for years at these gentlemen's recommendations. (What happened to RIDesigner?)
I was there Saturday and had Jessica. HORRIBLE VISIT. Stay away!
TS was the worst. She hurt me washing the small man. Kept pouring water on me.
Massage was just fast rubbing in circles and pushing. It hurt. Had to stop her several times.
The fun was not fun at all. NO TOUCH anything. All she would do was Doggy and that was with her legs crossed so you could not get in very far.
She did not even help me get dressed.
Don't take me wrong. I have had plenty of good visits, but this girl does not belong there.
Maybe it is time for Hanna to come back. She ran the place for several years, and I can not remember a bad visit then. Or for Mika to come back. I loved the way she would "Help out".
I ***** to much. Sorry.
Thanks to all. See you later.
Primo
Was in RI on Thursday and the weather kept me from visiting someone in Boston that was recommended.
Went to Lily's for my second time ever (I don't get up that way very often.) Was pretty busy when I got there and was stashed in the Sauna for a few minutes. Monica (fairly young and cute) came for me after about 5 minutes and received a nice but slightly hurried TS. Then back to the Sauna for another 5 minutes. Jody (seemed really young at first glance but probably late 20's, about 5' 1" and slender) came in and took me back to the room. Was not a very good massage (no lotion or oil which I would have preferred) and no tease while face down. On the flip, she spent 5 minutes or so massaging chest then went to the table and returned with oil. Liberally doused me and started "the fun". Would not slow down and it ended too quickly for my tastes. She did prolong the pleasure with by continuing for a couple minutes and I enjoyed that. After the cleanup, massaged for about 10 more minutes and the helped me get dressed.
I would have preferred Monica to Jody. An ok experience but no where near as good as when I saw Hannah the last time in town.
Target 12 Investigators report on a 3 month investigation into Daily Spa in Pawtucket airs Thursday evening at 11pm. It will discuss what is happening in the AMP with footage of the entrance from across the street. It is a hot topic because Pawtucket City council member Albert Vitali and his mother own the property. The owners are questioned and have no clue what happens in the place.
My understanding is there will be more of these types of investigations happening, make sure you are comfortable with potentially seeing yourself on the news.
[QUOTE=Ri Designer; 1131269]Target 12 Investigators report on a 3 month investigation into Daily Spa in Pawtucket airs Thursday evening at 11pm. It will discuss what is happening in the AMP with footage of the entrance from across the street. It is a hot topic because Pawtucket City council member Albert Vitali and his mother own the property. The owners are questioned and have no clue what happens in the place.
My understanding is there will be more of these types of investigations happening, make sure you are comfortable with potentially seeing yourself on the news. [/QUOTE]........ To your stature as a senior member with significant post count, let's be a bit more specific in regards to this so called investigation from across the street. I know it hasn't aired yet, but has there been or might there be an actual LE bust, or is this just an"expose" done by a news team trying to embarass some property owners with political connections?
We should always be cognizant of our surroundings as we enter and exit our favorite establishments, but let's not get too hysterical here. Even in the case of a real bust, just because someone went into a place that got busted doesn't necessarily mean they got anything but a legit massage. And what kind of discussion will they have about what goes on inside that will arise from footage taken from across the street ? A guy walks in scowling and leaves smiling ?????
[QUOTE=Ri Designer;1131269]It is a hot topic because Pawtucket City council member Albert Vitali and his mother own the property. The owners are questioned and have no clue what happens in the place.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=Uncle Primo; 1131124]Rarely do I post here, but I have enjoyed the hobby for years. I have followed closely the reports of several seniors who I trust. Yard, Muffy, Little Tony, Sms. To name a few. I have been going to 1021 for years at these gentlemen's recommendations. (What happened to RIDesigner?)
I was there Saturday and had Jessica. HORRIBLE VISIT. Stay away!
TS was the worst. She hurt me washing the small man. Kept pouring water on me.
Massage was just fast rubbing in circles and pushing. It hurt. Had to stop her several times.
The fun was not fun at all. NO TOUCH anything. All she would do was Doggy and that was with her legs crossed so you could not get in very far.
She did not even help me get dressed.
Don't take me wrong. I have had plenty of good visits, but this girl does not belong there.
Maybe it is time for Hanna to come back. She ran the place for several years, and I can not remember a bad visit then. Or for Mika to come back. I loved the way she would "Help out".
I * to much. Sorry.
Thanks to all. See you later.
Primo[/QUOTE]Try Ruby next time.
[QUOTE=SMS 54; 1131342]. To your stature as a senior member with significant post count, let's be a bit more specific in regards to this so called investigation from across the street. I know it hasn't aired yet, but has there been or might there be an actual LE bust, or is this just an"expose" done by a news team trying to embarass some property owners with political connections?
We should always be cognizant of our surroundings as we enter and exit our favorite establishments, but let's not get too hysterical here. Even in the case of a real bust, just because someone went into a place that got busted doesn't necessarily mean they got anything but a legit massage. And what kind of discussion will they have about what goes on inside that will arise from footage taken from across the street? A guy walks in scowling and leaves smiling? [/QUOTE]Please don't be so naive to think that LE, the news reporters, anyone that looks at this board and any government official in most cities and towns don't know what is happening inside these establishments. There is a statewide list published for every city and town indicating what spas in each town offer for services.
I did not say one should worry about being busted by LE, I clearly stated that one should be prepared to have themselves outed on television as someone that uses the services of these establishments.
As for the footage from across the street, there is footage of persons entering and leaving the establishment. There is also hidden camera footage from inside the establishment.
Stopped by last night. Drew Babe. Sexy slim & pretty, short hair, sporting "B" cups. Nice attitude. Shower was thorough with soft touches here & there. Oh, and nice hot towel on face which I like and has been non-existent around for some reason. Massage was nice, with experienced slow and strong pressing and kneading and good leg work like deep upper inner thigh massage felt great. That was new to me. No complaints. Nice RT with soft tainting.
60/60.
Roaming over only.
Place was dead. Another K cutie was hanging around waiting to pleasure us.
Will repeat.
Hope to stop by Providence soon and was wonderng what the AML visit damage is?
PM me please.
Thanks. All
[QUOTE=SMS 54; 1131342]We should always be cognizant of our surroundings as we enter and exit our favorite establishments, but let's not get too hysterical here. Even in the case of a real bust, just because someone went into a place that got busted doesn't necessarily mean they got anything but a legit massage. And what kind of discussion will they have about what goes on inside that will arise from footage taken from across the street? A guy walks in scowling and leaves smiling?[/QUOTE]Wow! Did you really just type that. Doesn't mean they got anything but a legit massage. You guys need to stop focusing on how many posts you have on a website and come back to reality. Asian Spas are for sex! It's not a secret and we all knew the news organizations were going to start getting involved again. Wait till after this airs when the other stations will try to one up Target 12. Good Luck! You're going to need it.
[QUOTE=Ri Designer;1131634]There is also hidden camera footage from inside the establishment.[/QUOTE]That has [b]got [/b]to be illegal! Even if they had cooperation from an employee, but particularly if not. I hope someone sues their ass off.
[QUOTE=VilunyaChert;1132026]That has [b]got [/b]to be illegal! Even if they had cooperation from an employee, but particularly if not. I hope someone sues their ass off.[/QUOTE]It's not illegal. News organizations do it all the time. You will usually see it in department stores when cashiers don't follow the right procedures and I remember just recently convenience stores got nabbed for telling people they didn't win anything with their lottery tickets and the cashier would keep the money for himself.
Stay safe gentlemen.
Went by FE on Sunday and met with Annie. Haven't been there in a while and remembered how good past visits were. Annie has a nice slim body with man mades. TS was the most through I've had with some soapy massage. Actual massage was good and service after was good also. Service overall gets a rating of an 8.
Went by OS a few weeks ago and met with Jackie. Holy Crap! TS wasn't anything to brag about and the massage was ehh but the service afterwards was excellent. Before the flip she did this kissing / slurping thing from head to toe then the teasing from behind started. After the flip she crawled on to the table to do some 69 which was great and then various positions. Good time and would rate the experience a 7.
This topic sort of came up a while back when people were insisting that there were video camera in the massage rooms in Lily's. There are web sites dedicated to this topic and if I recall correctly the RI laws re: video surveillance (like the former prostitution laws) are vaguely worded and hence prone to being abused. That said. Surreptitiously recording audio without consent is illegal in most states including RI. Police need a court order to do so right? Video recording is prohibited when there is a reasonable expectation of privacy such as in a bathroom or locker room. Some states do allow this but there must be signs advising patrons and the cameras must be visible. However, there's nothing illegal about video recording people walking in and out of a place as long as there's no audio recording of conversations without consent. The analogy to recording employees at work in a store does not really apply here. Consent to be video recorded is usually implied when you accept employment in that type of environment. And again, the video cameras are in plain sight. Maybe one of you is a lawyer and could speak with more authority on the subject.
[QUOTE=Liecam; 1132307]It's not illegal. News organizations do it all the time. You will usually see it in department stores when cashiers don't follow the right procedures and I remember just recently convenience stores got nabbed for telling people they didn't win anything with their lottery tickets and the cashier would keep the money for himself.
Stay safe gentlemen. [/QUOTE]
Lot was empty as I pulled in and the door opened before I could ring the bell so they were obviously not busy. Mama remembered me and gave me a hug. I was hoping to see Happy again but she told me that Happy isn't there anymore. I should have asked for a lineup or for Mama's recommendation but instead I asked if Jay was there. (I had seen her as I was leaving once. I thought she was hot and asked her name.) I gave house fee to mama and met Jay in the room. Off to TS which was okay. Then to sauna and back to room. Jay is very attractive. Long straight black hair, pretty face and great body. Unfortunately that's where the good stuff ends. Her massage was much too hard and really painful at times. I asked her to lighten up and she did. However a few minutes later I had to ask her again. After the third time or so she went on a little rant about how she knows how to massage and I don't etc. Eventually the feather touch started and she asked me to flip.
Well, Jay doesn't come anywhere near Happy's level of service. She's not even as good as what you would normally get at Lily's. She got a huge attitude when I tried to roam and had a sour face. I had enough and told her we were done and started to get up to leave. She suddenly got a big smile and tried to push me back onto the table saying "It's okay it's okay." I just stared at her and she asked why I wanted to leave. I said that this wasn't a good massage. She got upset and said "Please baby. Please stay." I gave in and stayed through a very unremarkable and uninspired finish.
As I was leaving mama sensed that things didn't go as well as they should have and asked what was wrong? I didn't want to say anything in front of Jay so I just told her (mama) I'd see her soon and left. About ten minutes into my drive home I called her and nicely explained why the session wasn't good. I said that I come there to relax and this session was anything but relaxing. With the arguing and painful massage, I left feeling worse than when I went in. She was very apologetic and told me she will make sure I am treated well next time. This was my first really bad experience at Lily's. Considering the amount of good times I've had there, the good far outweighs the bad and I will almost certainly return. However I will most definitely avoid Jay. If I wanted that kind of aggravation I'd get married.
Maybe you think so but having visited AMPs across the country, I can say that you are more likely than not to find a sexual pleasure at an Asian Spa than not. However, there are plenty of absolutely straight parlors where all you can expect and get is a good massage.
Many women choose to give an honest massage and not clean your pocket by giving extras. I think their choices should be respected and one should not assume that because is a masseuse is Asian, extras are on the menu.
ARG.
[QUOTE=Liecam;1131928]Wow! Did you really just type that. Doesn't mean they got anything but a legit massage. You guys need to stop focusing on how many posts you have on a website and come back to reality. Asian Spas are for sex! It's not a secret and we all knew the news organizations were going to start getting involved again. Wait till after this airs when the other stations will try to one up Target 12. Good Luck! You're going to need it.[/QUOTE]
At the risk of sounding like a shill or a company man I figured I would add a post about my ATF AMP as I was there today for my weekly visit. After reading a few "Bad" reports here from very trusted members I was very concerned that things were heading downhill so off to 1021 I went. Planned it during the shitty weather as I knew it would be very slow there which is exactly what I like! I hate when things get too busy as I feel they get a bit stressed in trying to please everyone.
Called ahead and spoke with Sophia and asked for my Fav girl who I have now seen at least 15 times or more since she has been there. Yeah Yeah, I know, WTF am I going to a place like this and only seeing one girl? Well for those of you who know me, I'm all about building a very high level GFE with one girl and that takes far more time then a single visit or jumping from one girl to the next. Remember these girls spend 24/7 living with each other in one room and they do talk! So if your the type who always wants to try the new girl then you will be tagged as a playboy and treated as such (BTW- that is perfectly fine as that is what these places are here for right?). I guess I'm the odd ball as I like to really get to know one girl and reach beyond the typical customer treatment given!
So anyways spent some incredible quality time with my girl which was absolutely mind blowing as she treated me to one of the best experiences I have yet to have. Got to love it when you thought you had reached a plateau and all of a sudden the plateau is raised to a new level! Damn, this girl is ruining me!
I guess you get the point about the girl I see there, I won't post her name or details here out of respect, those of you who know me most likely know her and I am happy to give her name to any trusted senior via PM. I would just hate to see her get worn out!
Now for the bad! Jessica first, she was sent packing yesterday! After a few upset customers and some bad reports that was enough to send her on her way. Sophia does listen guys and understands the importance of a high level of customer service. Understand that she can not force these girls to do things behind closed doors. Either the girl has it or she doesn't and in Jessica's case she just wasn't cut out for this type of work. I think it is a great thing to let management know when you are not happy but do it in a respectful way, they do listen. I only briefly saw Jessica in the hall and really didn't care for the "All done up look" as I always feel this type of girl is a "Don't touch" or mess with my hair or makeup type and that will always lead to a bad mix. I have always loved the more natural Asian girl look with the typical long straight black hair and just a natural look! Hell I spent 2 years in the Philippines in the service which started my infatuation with these Asian girls!
Also there was another girl sent packing but for the life of me I can't remember her name now (Dani maybe). Well I hope the new rotation of girls is a bit better then the last but you know how things go at these places! There are always changes being made some good some bad! You just got to learn to go with the flow. For me, I can't remember the last time I had a bad experience at 1021, I have had a few, but overall this is by far my Spa of choice.
Stay Safe.
Muffy