MotorCity Mayhem

[QUOTE=Bpmfarhat;4877453]We should all get our Medical advice from guys who spend their spare time online trying to have sex with Drug addicted females who have multiple partners per day. The hell with the Doctors get your Medical advice from that guy. LOL.[/QUOTE]That is a great line. Take advice from a Monger who hits up women for random sex. Classic!

Good points all around on the Covid topic. Guess I'll stick to the conservative side of the block, while I sneak across to Monger. LOL!

Besides good reports with links, MotorCity Mayhem is a great thread.

Stay safe out there!

[QUOTE=Bpmfarhat;4878595]Lots of amputees, one previously healthy 41 year old guy I know had both legs amputated. But he is still listed as a survivor in the stats. Don't listen to trump or Fox. Today that imbecile is attacking and smearing DR. Fauci for telling the truth. Just like he did to all the Generals when they told him the truth! It's so sad to have a moron in charge when real leadership is needed. Americans are now banned from entering several countries. They smart.[/QUOTE]I believe Dr Fauci is in bed with bill gates. If so go see what gates did in Africa. Wasn't so good from what I hear. Anyway Dr Fauci is in bed also with the W. H. O. And that health org is in bed with China. Maybe it's a conspiracy but my opinion is Fauci could have given the Chinese the pathway to this virus to attack trump to become the world superpower. This so goes in line with the far left that want to make the rich richer and abolish the middle class and make us all poor. Just my 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Zeek2120;4880675]I believe Dr Fauci is in bed with bill gates. If so go see what gates did in Africa. Wasn't so good from what I hear. Anyway Dr Fauci is in bed also with the W. H. O. And that health org is in bed with China. Maybe it's a conspiracy but my opinion is Fauci could have given the Chinese the pathway to this virus to attack trump to become the world superpower. This so goes in line with the far left that want to make the rich richer and abolish the middle class and make us all poor. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]He's a 79 year old bureaucrat who hasn't seen a patient in 30 years. When research on improved function of viruses became illegal, he routed money to Chinese labs. Worst of all, the man wants a legacy as the guy who saved the country.

[QUOTE=Zeek2120;4880675]I believe Dr Fauci is in bed with bill gates. If so go see what gates did in Africa. Wasn't so good from what I hear. Anyway Dr Fauci is in bed also with the W. H. O. And that health org is in bed with China. Maybe it's a conspiracy but my opinion is Fauci could have given the Chinese the pathway to this virus to attack trump to become the world superpower. This so goes in line with the far left that want to make the rich richer and abolish the middle class and make us all poor. Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]1) Um. The left wants to raise taxes on the upper one percent and also slap them with a net worth tax. How would that make the rich richer?

2). There is no bed. China had a far greater chance of becoming the worlds superpower without the virus than they do now.

3). If you want to be a professional conspiracy theorist, at least make sense.

[QUOTE=RoadHead;4881110]1) Um. The left wants to raise taxes on the upper one percent and also slap them with a net worth tax. How would that make the rich richer?

2). There is no bed. China had a far greater chance of becoming the worlds superpower without the virus than they do now.

3). If you want to be a professional conspiracy theorist, at least make sense.[/QUOTE]Big money comes by and buys up all the mom and pop shops. I seen it happen in 2006-2009. And its happening again.

Fauci is deep state maybe not with China.

China can't do shit without our economy.

[QUOTE=TeeTime69;4881074]He's a 79 year old bureaucrat who hasn't seen a patient in 30 years. When research on improved function of viruses became illegal, he routed money to Chinese labs. Worst of all, the man wants a legacy as the guy who saved the country.[/QUOTE]You down played Dr. Fauci so Now give us your Medical credentials? And what is your education Level?

I hear crickets. I thought so. LOL.

[QUOTE=WoodBNice;4878364]Or you can say the. 26% fatality rate widely used in these postings is really 4. 1% which using simple math is 15 times higher than what is being quoted here.

Per the CDC as of 9:41 am 7/14/2020.

Number of Covid Cases in the United States (updated 7/13/2020) is 3,296,599.

Number of Deaths is 134,884.

Again -- simple math. That is a Death rate for those with Covid of 4. 1% or conversely a survival rate of 95.9%.

So what has been heavily used as a. 26% fatality rate (1 - 99.74% = .26%) for those infected is really 15 times higher than that and is currently at 4. 1%.

May seem like a small change but earlier the number of 400,000 was used and based on the 99.74% or. 26% -- a fatality rate of 1,040 people was estimated.

Now try it at 95.9% or 4. 1% and you get a fatality count of 16,400.

I'm not advocating one position over any other but I do think its helpful to be using accurate data.[/QUOTE]YEA how many SURVIVED WITH NO LEGS or other life long illneses You being very dishonest by leaving that part out. You being very slick and not honest at all. Therefore your numbers are just a lot of B. S. You can always make numbers say what ever you want based on your agenda. They teach you that in college in Stats class 101. You just leave other pertinent facts out.

[QUOTE=Admin2;4877900]It's called an ad hominum attack. It's a common fallacy and people use it when they can't assail your data or logic, the word ad hominim means against the man, so instead of offering a counter argument they attack you and call you a nut. It's intellectual laziness nothing more.[/QUOTE]At last, one forum member who understands logic. Bless you, sir.

There are several more common fallacies to conspiracy theories, such as Anecdotal Evidence and Burden of Proof. Here is just one article on the subject: [URL]https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/thoughts-thinking/201708/18-common-logical-fallacies-and-persuasion-techniques[/URL].

[QUOTE=TeeTime69;4881074]He's a 79 year old bureaucrat who hasn't seen a patient in 30 years. When research on improved function of viruses became illegal, he routed money to Chinese labs. Worst of all, the man wants a legacy as the guy who saved the country.[/QUOTE]How does Dr. Fauci's work as director of the NIAID for 30+ years somehow get diminished by not continuing a practice? You think he should be doing both?

What is your source for stating Fauci directed funds to the labs in China (the Wuhan Institute of Virology, perhaps)? The New York Post? I found this fact check article debunking that claim:

[URL]https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/national-international/fact-check-trump-spreads-distorted-claim-on-wuhan-lab-funding/5126987/[/URL]

How do you know what legacy Fauci wants?

Arguing over A Virus & giving medical advice on A Hooker Review site. LMAO you have Sex with Drug Addicted ******.

[QUOTE=Bpmfarhat;4881362]YEA how many SURVIVED WITH NO LEGS or other life long illneses You being very dishonest by leaving that part out. You being very slick and not honest at all. Therefore your numbers are just a lot of B. S. You can always make numbers say what ever you want based on your agenda. They teach you that in college in Stats class 101. You just leave other pertinent facts out.[/QUOTE]Sorry you missed the intended clarity of my post. It was to correct a GROSS UNDERSTATEMENT of the number of FATALITIES associated with Covid. Many Many of the previous posts downplayed the relative lethality of the virus. When you look at the actual numbers the FATALITY rate was 15 TIMES HIGHER THAN WHAT WAS BEING USED AS A "STAT".

I still stand by the accuracy and import of my "STATS". From my point of view, too many of these posts try to address 100% of the issues with some broad statements and interpretations. Mine was intentionally very limited and intentionally correcting what I saw as a significant error being spoken so much that it had turned into "FACT".

Finally -- your portrayal of me as being "very dishonest", "slick" and presenting "numbers. Just a lot of B. S. " is without foundation.

OF COURSE -- there are many many secondary and tertiary effects of this deadly virus. Post infection impacts to patients, negative impacts to the economy, the education of our children, the disparate impact among different racial and economic classes and the stress the virus puts on our limited healthcare resources are JUST A FEW of those impacted.

Again -- I think its very important to describe any problem with accurate data. Sorry you missed that point. Stay well!

[QUOTE=WinterKnight;4881444]How does Dr. Fauci's work as director of the NIAID for 30+ years somehow get diminished by not continuing a practice? You think he should be doing both?

What is your source for stating Fauci directed funds to the labs in China (the Wuhan Institute of Virology, perhaps)? The New York Post? I found this fact check article debunking that claim:

[URL]https://www.nbcmiami.com/news/national-international/fact-check-trump-spreads-distorted-claim-on-wuhan-lab-funding/5126987/[/URL]



How do you know what legacy Fauci wants?[/QUOTE]Risky "gain of function " studies were outsourced by Fauci when he controlled grant money. They had become illegal.

[URL]https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741[/URL]

https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/why-us-outsourced-bat-virus-research-to-wuhan/

https://www.nih.gov/about-nih/who-we-are/nih-director/statements/nih-lifts-funding-pause-gain-function-research

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741

I point out his lack of patient involvement to 1. Show he's a bureaucrat 2. Why he was wrong about Plaquenil

His legacy drive is just an opinion. Being that he's a short statured bureaucrat, it makes sense to me.

[QUOTE=DownRiverRat;4881869]Arguing over A Virus & giving medical advice on A Hooker Review site. LMAO you have Sex with Drug Addicted ******.[/QUOTE]LOL. I'm with you!

[QUOTE=Bpmfarhat;4881343]You down played Dr. Fauci so Now give us your Medical credentials? And what is your education Level?

I hear crickets. I thought so. LOL.[/QUOTE]I think you're going to be surprised to learn the high level of education and professional experience some forum members have. Those crickets are telling you to go back and research more thoroughly.

[QUOTE=DownRiverRat;4881869]Arguing over A Virus & giving medical advice on A Hooker Review site. LMAO you have Sex with Drug Addicted ******.[/QUOTE]This is the fight thread, so (almost) anything goes. And the Coronavirus topic IS cogent to this forum since members are risking infection far more intractable than an ordinary STI.