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Deposits
I know this is better for the Bullshit that has nothing to do with pussy thread, but given the recent posts about deposits and vanishing. It's amazing to me the arguments made by providers in twitter threads. The main argument (besides trying to get customers to not be so flaky) is that a service is provided and that people pay deposits all the time for other services: tattoos, buying art, holding a hotel reservation. Great. Those are legal services and there are legal methods to deal with disputes if services are not provided. Providers claim that their reputations are at risk if they rip off customers. Sure. That's not hurting Bonnie Belle. She seems fine. And even providers with a lot of review on the other site include some sprinkled reviews about not following through after a deposit was paid. I'm sure it's very frustrating to deal with flaky customers, but the easy move is to say: flake once and a deposit is required if you want to see me even if the reason for not showing was legitimate.
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Just say NO
[QUOTE=DWaits;6237856]I know this is better for the Bullshit that has nothing to do with pussy thread, but given the recent posts about deposits and vanishing. It's amazing to me the arguments made by providers in twitter threads. The main argument (besides trying to get customers to not be so flaky) is that a service is provided and that people pay deposits all the time for other services: tattoos, buying art, holding a hotel reservation. Great. Those are legal services and there are legal methods to deal with disputes if services are not provided. Providers claim that their reputations are at risk if they rip off customers. Sure. That's not hurting Bonnie Belle. She seems fine. And even providers with a lot of review on the other site include some sprinkled reviews about not following through after a deposit was paid. I'm sure it's very frustrating to deal with flaky customers, but the easy move is to say: flake once and a deposit is required if you want to see me even if the reason for not showing was legitimate.[/QUOTE]Deposits are a slippery slope. A hard no is the easiest position. The women you are talking about are not high end nationally touring providers, they are our collection of local flakes. As long as there are reliable reputable providers that are doing bookings without deposits I say, NO.
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Flakes
[QUOTE=CGuy2;6238073]Deposits are a slippery slope. A hard no is the easiest position. The women you are talking about are not high end nationally touring providers, they are our collection of local flakes. As long as there are reliable reputable providers that are doing bookings without deposits I say, NO.[/QUOTE]This is something we all must remember who we are dealing with. These girls are the biggest flakes. This is just one reason (besides the obvious drugs) that they are doing this line of work. They cannot possibly hold down a legit job where they have to show up every day show up on time and actually do the work once they arrive. So of course any time they can get money by not actually doing anything they will take the money. Oh I am sure some of them have good intentions but then someone else they know call them, they run out of cigarettes then get distracted going to the store, like a fish gets distracted by shiny things. How many times do we text a girl NOT pay a deposit show up on time only to be met with silence? They flake on us even before getting the money! But just as we still get robo calls we will get girls asking for deposits. Because it works. Some guys are just so stupid. Just like some girls.
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[QUOTE=DWaits;6237856]I know this is better for the Bullshit that has nothing to do with pussy thread, but given the recent posts about deposits and vanishing. It's amazing to me the arguments made by providers in twitter threads. The main argument (besides trying to get customers to not be so flaky) is that a service is provided and that people pay deposits all the time for other services: tattoos, buying art, holding a hotel reservation. Great. Those are legal services and there are legal methods to deal with disputes if services are not provided. Providers claim that their reputations are at risk if they rip off customers. Sure. That's not hurting Bonnie Belle. She seems fine. And even providers with a lot of review on the other site include some sprinkled reviews about not following through after a deposit was paid. I'm sure it's very frustrating to deal with flaky customers, but the easy move is to say: flake once and a deposit is required if you want to see me even if the reason for not showing was legitimate.[/QUOTE]A good percentage of the providers posting on Twitter are either on the high end or wanting everyone to think they are high end regardless of actual circumstances. A lot have no idea how it is outside of their little bubbles and or they are being intellectually dishonest by being unwilling to acknowledge that some people are actually deposit scammers and not real providers. Then they fall back on the often used refrain of its the guys' fault they get scammed because the guys didn't contact a higher end provider. Like everyone has 500 or 700 to gamble on an hour date. It is a waste of time and effort to argue with the provider Twitter brigades.
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Deposits
Not that I've never paid a deposit, but I would only do it under very specific circumstances. The girl has to have an established, long-term presence across multiple sites (no LC girls). She has to have her own website, social media that goes back a ways, and at least a couple of positive reviews by credible people. She has to have all of that otherwise I'll move on.
Those women always fit into the high end category. I wouldn't do it for a $100 QV girl.
[QUOTE=Jannisary;6238358]A good percentage of the providers posting on Twitter are either on the high end or wanting everyone to think they are high end regardless of actual circumstances. A lot have no idea how it is outside of their little bubbles and or they are being intellectually dishonest by being unwilling to acknowledge that some people are actually deposit scammers and not real providers. Then they fall back on the often used refrain of its the guys' fault they get scammed because the guys didn't contact a higher end provider. Like everyone has 500 or 700 to gamble on an hour date. It is a waste of time and effort to argue with the provider Twitter brigades.[/QUOTE]
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Rosemont
In Rosemont for the weekend looking for good and safe providers in the area. Any recommendations?
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Deposits
I've noticed now on LC there are at least triple the number of fake ads as legit ads. The main reason for this is the advent of the deposit era. For those that send deposits, you've made it so lucrative that alot of people have found it profitable to spend the time doing this. Even if they waste hours talking to those of us who end communication after seeing the d (word, that for them they just need 1 or 2 out of several dozen that will contact them a day and it's worth it. Almost passive income the way some of you are quick to send them. I don't care how reviewed a girl is, I'm not send one. I contacted a provider Monday and she just reached me back on Thursday and said I needed a deposit to see her. The audacity LOL. I told her why would I send a deposit to some that takes 4 days to reply?
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I could not
[QUOTE=Bkmsw;6238340]This is something we all must remember who we are dealing with. These girls are the biggest flakes. This is just one reason (besides the obvious drugs) that they are doing this line of work. They cannot possibly hold down a legit job where they have to show up every day show up on time and actually do the work once they arrive. So of course any time they can get money by not actually doing anything they will take the money. Oh I am sure some of them have good intentions but then someone else they know call them, they run out of cigarettes then get distracted going to the store, like a fish gets distracted by shiny things. How many times do we text a girl NOT pay a deposit show up on time only to be met with silence? They flake on us even before getting the money! But just as we still get robo calls we will get girls asking for deposits. Because it works. Some guys are just so stupid. Just like some girls.
B.[/QUOTE]Have phrased this better. Please read it word for word as it all makes sense. Think of it this way. How many jobs does one get a check from and is allowed to call all the shots, show when they want to show, work when they want to work, b*tch and moan about all their problems to customers or co-workers and really do nothing except open their mouths or uncross and raise their legs for a few minutes each hour they do their deeds? Answer none and I ran a business for 27 years! Every customer that walks through that door is my boss! These c**ts are lazy, have big attitudes and beyond delusional or they would not be in the game at any amount. They are not models or actresses or anything but wh*res. Whatever they say to themselves to live with themselves is on them!
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Older Latinas
Anyone have any recs for mature Latina providers? Anywhere from 40-60.
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Question
Hey. Not sure where to post this so maybe someone can steer me in the right direction. A girl I'm seeing has a real interest in porn and I'm wondering if anyone knows of any porn production studios in Chicago. Please let me know and DM me.
Thanks.
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Deposits (again)
Even when they aren't flakes. Read the post where someone says she could be reported to the police. She cops to the very thing I posted below: There is no recourse when someone keeps the deposit. The dude sounds like a jerk, but she should have canceled and returned the deposit.
[URL]https://twitter.com/flexw0rker/status/1598990473531916290[/URL]
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Kartana Alternative
[QUOTE=Stuffdamuff;6227216]Thanks for sharing. Saw she had an ad up on stg and I was in the area and had time for a qv and the price was very reasonable. Set everything up via text very prompt replies. She asked to let her know when ten minutes out and the again upon arrival which she called me back with the room number. From her photos I was expecting a little tummy but she is really thin and has a great body. Nice natural c / d cups with Ara see nipples. Working out of a budget motel but it is clean and safe. Being a quick visit we got down to business CBJ and cfs clean up and left. Definitely will go back and spend some more time.[/QUOTE]I might have unintentionally offended Kartana and there is no response from her for fixing a time. The reason could be when she asked me what I wanted, I replied in a hurry that I am still deciding between QV and HH and based on how quick I can be there I will let her know. She took it otherwise and replied that appointments are by her time availability and not mine. I immediately realized that I should have decided on what I wanted, but anyways what's done is done and there is no point of fixing it with her.
Moving on, with her being out of scene, are there other provider that are comparable to her in prices and service?
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[QUOTE=LongDStyle;6239350]I've noticed now on LC there are at least triple the number of fake ads as legit ads. The main reason for this is the advent of the deposit era. For those that send deposits, you've made it so lucrative that alot of people have found it profitable to spend the time doing this.[/QUOTE]Yep. There is an absolute ton of complete garbage on there. Luckily, so many of the scam ads are very recognizeable, just from the verbiage. Just Say No to deposits on LC.
Then there are the Bonnie Belle types that aren't quite so obvious. But the Just Say No rule saves you from them, too.
I've sent a deposit just once, to Mya Michelle, who pretty much fit all of the following. It was a decent session, but we didn't click well enough for me to repeat at that price point.
[QUOTE=Jinurso;6238661]Not that I've never paid a deposit, but I would only do it under very specific circumstances. The girl has to have an established, long-term presence across multiple sites (no LC girls). She has to have her own website, social media that goes back a ways, and at least a couple of positive reviews by credible people. She has to have all of that otherwise I'll move on.
Those women always fit into the high end category. I wouldn't do it for a $100 QV girl.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=ChiKnightRider;6240250]I might have unintentionally offended Kartana [/QUOTE]That's not hard to do. I know some have had a good time with her, but that chick is weird AF.
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Kartana
[QUOTE=ChiKnightRider;6240250]I might have unintentionally offended Kartana and there is no response from her for fixing a time. The reason could be when she asked me what I wanted, I replied in a hurry that I am still deciding between QV and HH and based on how quick I can be there I will let her know. She took it otherwise and replied that appointments are by her time availability and not mine. I immediately realized that I should have decided on what I wanted, but anyways what's done is done and there is no point of fixing it with her.
Moving on, with her being out of scene, are there other provider that are comparable to her in prices and service?[/QUOTE]The last time I saw her was almost a year ago and she was completely out of it which turned me off she layed there like a star fish seemed like she was half awake half asleep as I recall. I decided to give her a chance and see her again a few days ago because of her rates In Schaumburg. Says she only does GFE in her half hour and hour. She was drunk when I Got there and drinking chugs of vodka every 5 minutes. Did the half hour she gave me a BBBJ and let me in bareback doggy and then missionary. Came in about 20 minutes and cleaned up. When I was getting dressed I asked her how often she drinks she told me daily. Yikes. If you can get past her drinking her pussy and her blowjob is nice.