Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

So did you agree to help her pay the fine, or did you agree to a "business" proposition?

If it was me, I would say we do some business, I provide the donation and do with it what you want. I would never agree to "pay" for anything (rent, bail, etc).

[QUOTE=3-MinutePassion;2465006]Got a text from a provider I had been trying to see for a while. Said she hadn't checked her mail and just ran across my older message. Asked if I still wanted to see her. I said I did. She said great because she was in court today and could really use the money. She then says she has a fine to pay. Wondering if we could get together soon. I said sure.

She then asks if I could help her pay her fine. I said I might, depending on the amount. She tells me the amount and I tell her I would pay part of it. So she then wants me to meet her at the Justice Center downtown. She says once I give her the money she will run in, pay it and then come out and we will go to my house. She says I can come with her if I have any hesitation.

I did drive down to the courthouse since I was close but when I didn't see her at the designated spot I drove on and then got bombarded by messages and calls asking where I was.

There were several red flags flying. One, she said she was on a bus on her way downtown to meet me when we spoke. I could her no noises in the background and she was speaking freely, not trying to conceal what may otherwise be considered a pretty private conversation. Two, the fact that I had not heard from her before and now there was such a sense of urgency. Three, she said she would jump in my car after paying the fine and we would head over to my place. A good looking gal would never do this, or at least should never do this. Some SWs can without much fear but when a gal is particularly good looking they should never do this. And I have to believe she had not intention of doing this.

Afterwards, I received more texts from her telling me she could still come over to my place. When I asked how, since she rode the bus, got no response. So, in the end, I drove on even though she may never want to see me in the future.

What would you have done?[/QUOTE]

I would have declined as soon as she mentioned Downtown. I would have agreed to meet her at a bus stop or anywhere else then went some where of my choosing, did the deed then left the donation. She can get to where ever she needs to be from there and she can do with the donation what ever she chooses. Always remember play safe with your life, your freedom and your money. Don't be a statistic!

Play safe,

JFK.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;2465025]I would not have agreed to meet her at the justice center. I would have agreed only to bang her first and then she could do whatever she wanted to do with the cash. See what happened when you agreed to meet her you were in a sense obligated to do what you said you were going to do. You see you are not allowed to change your mind or back out because of your lifestyle differences you are supposed to be the upstanding man who does what he says, where she is the only one who can change her mind on going to your house in effect ripping you off. Good call on your part. HL29.[/QUOTE]

After the drive by, not seeing her, I said we can meet first and then she can pay her fine. She said there wasn't enough time since all fines, according to her, had to be paid by 2:30 PM. I have no idea whether that is true but I didn't really care, frankly. When she said she had to have the money first, I felt it was a scam.

I told her I wasn't comfortable with the sense of urgency created. Every time I have run across a scam, there is the element of a tight time frame, dire need, a reason for temporary separation and some oddball location. This had all the ingredients.

[QUOTE=3-MinutePassion;2465006]Got a text from a provider I had been trying to see for a while. Said she hadn't checked her mail and just ran across my older message. Asked if I still wanted to see her. I said I did. She said great because she was in court today and could really use the money. She then says she has a fine to pay. Wondering if we could get together soon. I said sure.

She then asks if I could help her pay her fine. I said I might, depending on the amount. She tells me the amount and I tell her I would pay part of it. So she then wants me to meet her at the Justice Center downtown. She says once I give her the money she will run in, pay it and then come out and we will go to my house. She says I can come with her if I have any hesitation.

I did drive down to the courthouse since I was close but when I didn't see her at the designated spot I drove on and then got bombarded by messages and calls asking where I was.

There were several red flags flying. One, she said she was on a bus on her way downtown to meet me when we spoke. I could her no noises in the background and she was speaking freely, not trying to conceal what may otherwise be considered a pretty private conversation. Two, the fact that I had not heard from her before and now there was such a sense of urgency. Three, she said she would jump in my car after paying the fine and we would head over to my place. A good looking gal would never do this, or at least should never do this. Some SWs can without much fear but when a gal is particularly good looking they should never do this. And I have to believe she had not intention of doing this.

Afterwards, I received more texts from her telling me she could still come over to my place. When I asked how, since she rode the bus, got no response. So, in the end, I drove on even though she may never want to see me in the future.

What would you have done?[/QUOTE]First off, while I'm not sure what the offense is, I would be fairly reluctant to give a provider money in front of the Justice Center so she could go in, supposedly pay her fine, and then supposedly come and provide service later. Even if she comes back quickly, what are you supposed to do if she flakes and decides she doesn't want to hold up her end of the deal, start berating her while you stand in front of the JC with cop cars buzzing in and out?

I would be even more reluctant to bring a provider who I'd just given money to pay a fine at the JC to my house. Or any provider. But, dude, were you not just asking about issues with a provider who was trying to blackmail you? I would say not bringing providers back to your house when they're already dealing with other issues in the system would be one good way of avoiding similar problems in the future.

[QUOTE=3-MinutePassion;2465126]After the drive by, not seeing her, I said we can meet first and then she can pay her fine. She said there wasn't enough time since all fines, according to her, had to be paid by 2:30 PM. I have no idea whether that is true but I didn't really care, frankly. When she said she had to have the money first, I felt it was a scam.

I told her I wasn't comfortable with the sense of urgency created. Every time I have run across a scam, there is the element of a tight time frame, dire need, a reason for temporary separation and some oddball location. This had all the ingredients.[/QUOTE]You are spot on. This didn't just happen today she had time to figure this out but chose not to deal with it till now, a special over the weekend or a pay my fine promo, and get one of you nice gentleman to agree to drive her down Monday could a worked. She may not have known how much fine but she knew it was coming. You weren't going to get extra special service or appreciation, like was said it became an expectation after the word ok.

[QUOTE=Bucks97;2465133]But, dude, were you not just asking about issues with a provider who was trying to blackmail you? I would say not bringing providers back to your house when they're already dealing with other issues in the system would be one good way of avoiding similar problems in the future.[/QUOTE]She had no personal knowledge of me and this was not my primary residence.

[QUOTE=3-MinutePassion;2465194]She had no personal knowledge of me and this was not my primary residence.[/QUOTE]Also, it would be handy to have a non-primary residence for this. If it's in your name, though, still a bit risky. There are many ways to look that sort of thing up, though a provider might not readily try them.

As I think about it, I don't think you even pay fines at the Justice Center (jail). I think it's at the Courthouse. They are right next to each other, so it doesn't matter much, or she may have been a little off. But if she was planning to take cash into the JC, it would probably be to put on the commissary account of someone inside -- relative or boyfriend.

Anyone else hear the radio ad? Kind of them to to put it out there about the all-star crack down. It's a hint and a half to keep your ass down until post break.

[QUOTE=Bucks97;2466017]Also, it would be handy to have a non-primary residence for this. If it's in your name, though, still a bit risky. There are many ways to look that sort of thing up, though a provider might not readily try them.

As I think about it, I don't think you even pay fines at the Justice Center (jail). I think it's at the Courthouse. They are right next to each other, so it doesn't matter much, or she may have been a little off. But if she was planning to take cash into the JC, it would probably be to put on the commissary account of someone inside -- relative or boyfriend.[/QUOTE]Fines can be paid at the justice center traffic & misdemeanor fines and bail bonds. I know you can pay a bond anytime at night and if a person is in jail being held on fines you can pay that anytime. I don't know about traffic & misdemeanor as far as if and when they close. HL29.

You have a lot of nerve using the word "privacy" and then effectively outing someone right after that. Anyone with even a vague memory of local news will know exactly who you're talking about. And for this reason, I will never, ever see you.

Because clearly, if I ever saw you, or if I ever even just contacted you and then something happened to me that should land me in the news, well, clearly I cannot count on you to respect my desired anonymity.

You fail to understand two things: 1) I cannot afford to ever be caught indulging in this hobby; and 2) I cannot afford even the mere appearance that I may have indulged in something I wasn't supposed to. I'm sure this applies to most of the guys on this board. You could have given us the intended advice in more general terms without revealing so much detail.

Never, ever, ever, ever, ever. Give up anything (even the teeniest) on a client. Like saying that so-and-so was a client of mine and, oh yeah (Blank) happened to him and he lived (Blank) and blah blah blah. You may think you're talking to a pal, but you just gave up this guy big time.

I was shocked when I read that. I knew exactly who was being referred to. And it shook me.

Rule #2: the provider who gives up a client will be shamed out of business by everyone on this board; there is no excuse. None. Zilch.

[QUOTE=UOnlyLiveOnce;2466320]You have a lot of nerve using the word "privacy" and then effectively outing someone right after that. Anyone with even a vague memory of local news will know exactly who you're talking about. And for this reason, I will never, ever see you.

Because clearly, if I ever saw you, or if I ever even just contacted you and then something happened to me that should land me in the news, well, clearly I cannot count on you to respect my desired anonymity.

You fail to understand two things: 1) I cannot afford to ever be caught indulging in this hobby; and 2) I cannot afford even the mere appearance that I may have indulged in something I wasn't supposed to. I'm sure this applies to most of the guys on this board. You could have given us the intended advice in more general terms without revealing so much detail.[/QUOTE]

Rule #1: Don't talk about Fight Club.

Rule #2: When in doubt, see rule #1.

I ran into a provider who I saw some time ago. She was a spinner then, and a skeleton now. This girl is 30 something and could pass for 60. Her skin sags and she wouldn't hit triple digits on the scales. I gave her a ride back to her notel and of course she was saying how another provider there is on drugs and is REALLY skinny. WOW.

These spinner / skeletons are just one pill or shot from an OD. You guys know who the girls are, their ribs stick out farther than their boobs, they have sores or are scratching or bouncing around or falling asleep. And Mongers seem to be standing in line to see them. Of course, you might just want to be really smart and see somebody like that because they'll do BBFS or even BB Greek!

Come on. Guys, there are good, safe providers (even spinners) for a few more bucks. You're just feeding their habit and sending them farther downhill. If you don't care about that, go get some Narcan to carry and rehearse what you're going to say when she OD's and LE calls and asks why a text giving her room number to you was the last thing on her phone.

[QUOTE=Gatty23;2467632]Come on. Guys, there are good, safe providers (even spinners) for a few more bucks. You're just feeding their habit and sending them farther downhill. If you don't care about that, go get some Narcan to carry and rehearse what you're going to say when she OD's and LE calls and asks why a text giving her room number to you was the last thing on her phone.[/QUOTE]Completely agree. If I know or even suspect they're an addict, I don't think it's right to enable them. Sure, they'll probably find the money anyway, but I don't want to be the one that gives it to them.

[QUOTE=Gatty23;2467632]I ran into a provider who I saw some time ago. She was a spinner then, and a skeleton now. This girl is 30 something and could pass for 60. Her skin sags and she wouldn't hit triple digits on the scales. I gave her a ride back to her notel and of course she was saying how another provider there is on drugs and is REALLY skinny. WOW.

These spinner / skeletons are just one pill or shot from an OD. You guys know who the girls are, their ribs stick out farther than their boobs, they have sores or are scratching or bouncing around or falling asleep. And Mongers seem to be standing in line to see them. Of course, you might just want to be really smart and see somebody like that because they'll do BBFS or even BB Greek!

Come on. Guys, there are good, safe providers (even spinners) for a few more bucks. You're just feeding their habit and sending them farther downhill. If you don't care about that, go get some Narcan to carry and rehearse what you're going to say when she OD's and LE calls and asks why a text giving her room number to you was the last thing on her phone.[/QUOTE]There are far more providers on drugs than just the ones that you can obviously tell. You would be surprised how many "safe" providers as you put it who are also drug users. I think there are far more that are users than not. You just found one that's on her last leg.

Does anyone know what happened to Petra? She just vanished into thin air.

[BLUE]Thanks to the guy that did the work to report those posts.

My thoughts:

To the hooker: you fucked up because YOU tied him publicly to a site about commercial sex. Before you said anything, the cops knew he was seeing a hooker, but after you wrote this so did anybody else.

To the guys: All of you guys who objected to what she posted and quoted it when you did it were guilty of the same thing. It was only reposted a bajillion times on 3 pages. You guys made sure that whoever may have missed it the first time around damn sure had A LOT more chances to read it.

If you have an issue with what somebody posted why in the hell would you quote it and reprint the damn thing.

A2[/BLUE]

[QUOTE=Admin2;2467998][BLUE]Thanks to the guy that did the work to report those posts.

My thoughts:

To the hooker: you fucked up because YOU tied him publicly to a site about commercial sex. Before you said anything, the cops knew he was seeing a hooker, but after you wrote this so did anybody else.

To the guys: All of you guys who objected to what she posted and quoted it when you did it were guilty of the same thing. It was only reposted a bajillion times on 3 pages. You guys made sure that whoever may have missed it the first time around damn sure had A LOT more chances to read it.

If you have an issue with what somebody posted why in the hell would you quote it and reprint the damn thing.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]If all that took was 15 minutes, you must have some mad clicking skills over there.

I don't have anything against providers that [I][B]use[/B][/I] drugs. Hell, I use controlled substances myself sometimes. I've had a couple of providers offer to smoke / vape during a session if I wanted to. If I have to go back to work I don't. At one point in my life I've even tried H (I have to tell you fellas, it really is like being hugged by jesus). For my own well-being I've learned to stay away from life-altering things that I like too much.

I'm talking about addiction. When someone has jumped the tracks and no longer has control, and I [B]know[/B] or [B]strongly suspect[/B] it, I stop contributing to their demise. That's all.

[QUOTE=Hooter12;2467865]There are far more providers on drugs than just the ones that you can obviously tell. You would be surprised how many "safe" providers as you put it who are also drug users. I think there are far more that are users than not. You just found one that's on her last leg.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Hooter12;2467865]There are far more providers on drugs than just the ones that you can obviously tell. You would be surprised how many "safe" providers as you put it who are also drug users. I think there are far more that are users than not. You just found one that's on her last leg.[/QUOTE]

If you do a search of arrest records for these gals, almost all come back with a heroin or drug paraphernalia arrest. I would guess at least 80% of these gals are or have been in deep. And once in, very hard to get out.

I have addiction in my family, it's a sick mind altering thing, you no longer know that person as you once did, even at Christmas seeings I'm in the new home in our family, Christmas was here, due to drug addicts in my family I hid everything downstairs and that area was off limits, it was easy because only my bedroom, laundry room and service room are down stairs.

I can first hand tell you, it's not them in that brain, you can look in their eyes and see no love, no compassion it's just not them, it's a stranger that will only think of WHAT CAN I GET? Who can I STEAL FROM, then there is depression, the calls at night when they are sick and BEGGING SOBBING in tears to just take away the pain, I cave every time, it causes fights in my house going out in the middle of the night to give her money in bad areas, so I started sneaking, I installed the western union app on my phone an sent it to her name, all she had to do is walk around the corner to the 24 hr check cashing place that was a WU place too. That left me not having to SEE HER. Not seeing the deteriorating state made it even easier to believe she needed tires, a stroller, or just ciggerette money.

I stopped being an enabler when she OD'd, I didn't know if it was off my little $50 I sent her, freaked me out!

Then I came to a crossroads that left me very alone in my family, it was when I learned there is family dealing to family, it's impossible to cut out family completely, your kids miss people, they are sheltered from the bad things the adults do so kids don't understand why you stay away, so you prepare greatly when you know visits are near. If a provider is addicted and it's truly and epidemic right now, I'd say BE SAFE, be SMART, more than book smart be street smart!! Know the signs when it's desperate because that's when they will do things out of character, morally unacceptable. Also be aware of disease! It spreads like the plague! Hep see and herpies and Indiana came across my news feed on FB saying they have 75 NEW AIDS CASES just since November 2014 ! That's directly contributed to needle use and sharing! Fun is fun. I've tried weed an I do think the medicinal value is there, I'd love to have sex on ecstasy once but I'm scared to try a man made street drug of any kind! Seen too much additives get put in things that hurt people! If your okay with seeing providers on H, good luck to you and please remember you have loved ones you could take things home to!

[QUOTE=FirstHalf;2468356]I don't have anything against providers that [I][B]use[/B][/I] drugs. Hell, I use controlled substances myself sometimes. I've had a couple of providers offer to smoke / vape during a session if I wanted to. If I have to go back to work I don't. At one point in my life I've even tried H (I have to tell you fellas, it really is like being hugged by jesus). For my own well-being I've learned to stay away from life-altering things that I like too much.

I'm talking about addiction. When someone has jumped the tracks and no longer has control, and I [B]know[/B] or [B]strongly suspect[/B] it, I stop contributing to their demise. That's all.[/QUOTE]It is good to see a rational post about drug use. My bottom line:

You have got to be able to handle your high. Keep control and then it is nobody's business what you do.

[QUOTE=Steel1;2469490]Anyone had a dream with this dream? Seems almost TGTBT?

[URL]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/smoking-hot-seductive-sexy-and-sweet-feel-the-heat-with-me/20364543[/URL][/QUOTE]Some of ads that you inquire about. I'm just like man. WTF really. A lot of them. Like this recent experience you had. This from few pages back.

"NIKKI is a Cash and Dash.

DO NOT BE FOOLED BY THIS GORGEOUS GIRL.

Pics are fakes, and the girl who shows up does a cash and dash. P*ed me off.

[URL]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/full-body-massage/19754454[/URL] ".

Really man? I almost want to troll some of you guys who inquire about the obvious bullshit ads. LOL. Be like yeah I saw her, she's 100% real. But that would really messed up LOL.

[QUOTE=RicoTrebor;2470471]These two con artist hags run a damn good scam!

Be aware. Tristan will answer and push to bring her friend. Even if you say no, Raven will show up anyway --for Outcall.

They will tell you that they provide GFE over the phone. And then in person will collect the money an walk the hell out -claiming they were only their to do a "show" and nothing else.

They push to collect in advance. And even pester you for a tip beforehand as well! When I refused the tip --after her badgering and trying to explain why she collected a tip in advance. I knew I had gotten taken. They then turned around and walked toward the door.

[URL]http://cincinnati.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/dr3m-drkhr-d-ur-3r3-513-908-0090/22404452[/URL]

Never doing outcall again. And never with a girl I don't know.[/QUOTE]If you specifically asked for 1 girl and 2 showed up anyway why did you let them in your house? And why did you give them money? Were you intimidated? I for one would not have let 2 girls in my home when I asked for 1 girl and 2 showed up, and I for sure wouldn't have put any cash in their hands. I don't get guys that do foolish things then complain about getting ripped off. HL29.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;2470559]If you specifically asked for 1 girl and 2 showed up anyway why did you let them in your house? And why did you give them money? Were you intimidated? I for one would not have let 2 girls in my home when I asked for 1 girl and 2 showed up, and I for sure wouldn't have put any cash in their hands. I don't get guys that do foolish things then complain about getting ripped off. HL29.[/QUOTE]Last year I had called up someone from BP. She was nice over the phone and we had already talked about rates and stuff. When she got to my place she was with her friend. I looked at her and I said "who is that girl" she said Oh that's my friend is it okay if she comes in. I looked at her and said Hell no! I then told her you both need to leave and that you never even told me about her. She then went on to say you can get 2 for the price of one I'm like no just leave and they did. I almost got taken but I used my big HEAD instead of the other one.

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;2470559]If you specifically asked for 1 girl and 2 showed up anyway why did you let them in your house? And why did you give them money? Were you intimidated? I for one would not have let 2 girls in my home when I asked for 1 girl and 2 showed up, and I for sure wouldn't have put any cash in their hands. I don't get guys that do foolish things then complain about getting ripped off. HL29.[/QUOTE]What EXACTLY do you think the purpose of this FORUM is for anyway? Do you think it was created for you to make arrogant twat-like statements about the historically obvious?? NO. It's purpose is to exchange useful information. If I needed the critique in foolhardy actions, I.

Would most certainly CALL 1-800-FELCHER. And low and behold. YOU would answer.

Arm-chair quarterbacking hindsight is ALWAYS. EASY. Thanks for the ridiculous advice. I obviously was foolish, but helping others out so they don't get scammed was my intent. Maybe even YOU. You dumb twat!

While I agree with you, his response was in Octagon so I would just let it go. . Take it or leave it.

You are off to a good start. Knowing the principles of this site is a good thing!!

[QUOTE=RicoTrebor;2470725]What EXACTLY do you think the purpose of this FORUM is for anyway? Do you think it was created for you to make arrogant twat-like statements about the historically obvious?? NO. It's purpose is to exchange useful information. If I needed the critique in foolhardy actions, I.

Would most certainly CALL 1-800-FELCHER. And low and behold. YOU would answer.

Arm-chair quarterbacking hindsight is ALWAYS. EASY. Thanks for the ridiculous advice. I obviously was foolish, but helping others out so they don't get scammed was my intent. Maybe even YOU. You dumb twat![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RicoTrebor;2470725]What EXACTLY do you think the purpose of this FORUM is for anyway? Do you think it was created for you to make arrogant twat-like statements about the historically obvious?? NO. It's purpose is to exchange useful information. If I needed the critique in foolhardy actions, I.

Would most certainly CALL 1-800-FELCHER. And low and behold. YOU would answer.

Arm-chair quarterbacking hindsight is ALWAYS. EASY. Thanks for the ridiculous advice. I obviously was foolish, but helping others out so they don't get scammed was my intent. Maybe even YOU. You dumb twat![/QUOTE]Sorry if I offended you but I'm going to do it again, the above saying is true, you were foolish and there are no two ways about it. I do hope you learned your lesson, and yes this forum was set up for all kinds of things, but it wasn't set up for everybody to agree with what you or anybody else writes. Yes you were ripped off but it doesn't absolve you of your foolish culpability. Then you want to call me names and be all tough on the Internet but when 2 women walk in your house relieve your stupid ass of your money all you do is get on this site and start whining hoping everybody on here will feel sorry for you. I'm telling you I don't,but I do appreciate the info so myself or anybody else doesn't call the lady for service, but if somebody did I'm sure only a small percentage would be as dumb as you. Then after reviewing your post history the only thing you have contributed on this site is your whining about these 2 ladies why don't you stop crying over your spilled milk and make some contribution about the buying of pussy ,where can we find some good pussy or what chick is good at giving BBBJ that's what this site is really about.HL29

[QUOTE=HuntLadys29;2471261]..make some contribution about the buying of pussy ,where can we find some good pussy or what chick is good at giving BBBJ that's what this site is really about.HL29[/QUOTE]Please, you dumb ****, follow your own advice.

You've been posting for MONTHS, chastising guys who post ACTUAL FUCKING INTEL. Discouraging guys from telling the truth because then they have to listen to your pointless fucking nonsense. You tell them that they were fools and shouldn't complain.

Blaming the victim is fucking retarded. That is what you are doing. These bitches robbed this guy. Could he have been more careful? Sure. But saying 1) he had it coming to him and 2) that he shouldn't complain about it HERE on the FUCKING BOARD WHERE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO SHARE ACTUAL INTEL?

God damn. Get some fucking perspective.

It's easy for folks around here to armchair quarterback, but don't give up. Read and search, post info and after you've got some contributions under your belt, ask for info. It can be a tough crowd.

[QUOTE=RicoTrebor;2470725]What EXACTLY do you think the purpose of this FORUM is for anyway? Do you think it was created for you to make arrogant twat-like statements about the historically obvious?? NO. It's purpose is to exchange useful information. If I needed the critique in foolhardy actions, I.

Would most certainly CALL 1-800-FELCHER. And low and behold. YOU would answer.

Arm-chair quarterbacking hindsight is ALWAYS. EASY. Thanks for the ridiculous advice. I obviously was foolish, but helping others out so they don't get scammed was my intent. Maybe even YOU. You dumb twat![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RicoTrebor;2470725]What EXACTLY do you think the purpose of this FORUM is for anyway? Do you think it was created for you to make arrogant twat-like statements about the historically obvious?? NO. It's purpose is to exchange useful information. If I needed the critique in foolhardy actions, I.

Would most certainly CALL 1-800-FELCHER. And low and behold. YOU would answer.

Arm-chair quarterbacking hindsight is ALWAYS. EASY. Thanks for the ridiculous advice. I obviously was foolish, but helping others out so they don't get scammed was my intent. Maybe even YOU. You dumb twat![/QUOTE]Like I posted here in the Octagon not too long ago, I've done some stupid things in the hobby like having my laptop in my vehicle when I was at a sleazy notel. Nothing bad happened, but it easily could have. Shit happened to you, learn from it and move on.

If you do nothing else, just do this: see only the chicks who have at least two reviews here from members who seem reliable in their advice. Nothing bad has happened to me as a result of adhering to this. Now, there have been occasions where I saw a chick with good reviews here and I was like, "what's the big freaking deal about her?" That's different because it involves my tastes and preferences versus someone else's. But in terms of my safety and not getting ripped off, I have never gone wrong by reading the recommendations here and sticking only with the chicks with at least two solid reviews from stand up mongers.

[QUOTE=Choochie;2471531]Please, you dumb ****, follow your own advice.

You've been posting for MONTHS, chastising guys who post ACTUAL FUCKING INTEL. Discouraging guys from telling the truth because then they have to listen to your pointless fucking nonsense. You tell them that they were fools and shouldn't complain.

Blaming the victim is fucking retarded. That is what you are doing. These bitches robbed this guy. Could he have been more careful? Sure. But saying 1) he had it coming to him and 2) that he shouldn't complain about it HERE on the FUCKING BOARD WHERE WE ARE SUPPOSED TO SHARE ACTUAL INTEL?

God damn. Get some fucking perspective.[/QUOTE]He can complain but he still has some fault in this I don't care what him you or anybody else says, this game has rules if you follow them your chances of getting ripped off are slim. And what have you ever posted? You have one post chastising me, why don't YOU provide some ACTUAL FUCKING INTEL 1 post complaining about something I said is utter bullshit. Yes he got robbed but if he would have told the girls to leave because that's not what he wanted and then not put any cash in his hands he wouldn't have posted that report. So I'm going to tell you what I told him quit crying about what I said and go get some COOCHIE and report on that. That is what this forum is about and if you and him had read the forum there is a ripoff section on this site that is where he should have put his post in the first place. But thanks for your uninformed first post. HL29.

I'm very sorry for not being able to get back to everyone who text me. I am not sure how to go about replying to messages after its been a hour or two. I dread the thought of texting back only to interrupt your time or disturb you at home with family.

All I can do is say, Please keep trying.

I know a provider who kinda just eventually gives out her real number & real name to people. Some of you guys on here know who I'm talking about.

I would like to hear everyone's input on this.

[QUOTE=Khloe21;2473447]I'm very sorry for not being able to get back to everyone who text me. I am not sure how to go about replying to messages after its been a hour or two. I dread the thought of texting back only to interrupt your time or disturb you at home with family.

All I can do is say, Please keep trying.[/QUOTE]No apology required. It's part of the deal. Actually, I can't see how in the world you possibly would have time to respond to everyone, especially just after a session. For me personally, an hour is acceptable, heck I may still be up for something. If its two hours, then I've probably given up until another day.

I can't speak for everyone on here, but I think most of us guys get it. No apology required.

Stay safe you sexy vixen.

[QUOTE=CloudStrife7;2473678]I know a provider who kinda just eventually gives out her real number & real name to people. Some of you guys on here know who I'm talking about.

I would like to hear everyone's input on this.[/QUOTE]I think I know who you are talking about -.

Its her business to worry about. If she is comfortable. Then OK. It is NOT OK for us to propagate that info.

[QUOTE=Khloe21;2473447]I'm very sorry for not being able to get back to everyone who text me. I am not sure how to go about replying to messages after its been a hour or two. I dread the thought of texting back only to interrupt your time or disturb you at home with family.

All I can do is say, Please keep trying.[/QUOTE]Timing is different for everyone. If someone try's contacting me while asleep I just send a sime text first thing in am saying sorry was asleep, if someone contacts me thru daytime and two hrs has gone by I don't text back or call back unless otherwise directed too, if I miss someone's call I will send a simple text saying "hey" if I am able to within the two hrs. Everyone is different though (providers and hobbyists) . You could just state in you ads that if you're not gotten back within X amount of time, to please try calling back etc. This is just my thoughts and opinions though you will figure it all out in time.

[QUOTE=NdayGuy;2474020]I think I know who you are talking about -.

Its her business to worry about. If she is comfortable. Then OK. It is NOT OK for us to propagate that info.[/QUOTE]I have given out her contacts to some seniors here. But she gave me the ok to.

I'm just trying to get everyone's perspective on what negative consequences can come out of this. Both Providers and monger's perspective through experiences or whatever.

I personally think it's stupid.

Majority of things I hear of are mainly of the regulars that end up falling in love with a provider and when love isn't returned, they end up in some cycle of revenge. Using all info they have to harass them. There was also something recently what 3 Minute Passion mentioned regarding Savannah. How she was possibly set up by one of her clients.

I think with more info out, when shit hits the fan. It just leaves you more vulnerable.

[QUOTE=CloudStrife7;2473678]I know a provider who kinda just eventually gives out her real number & real name to people. Some of you guys on here know who I'm talking about.

I would like to hear everyone's input on this.[/QUOTE]If a provider feels comfortable with giving you her actual name, great. But it is not your call to give it out to anyone else.

[QUOTE=Bigbuck73;2474259]If a provider feels comfortable with giving you her actual name, great. But it is not your call to give it out to anyone else.[/QUOTE]I believe giving out a providers personal information will or can get you banned. Think that is the rule.

[blue]POSTING their personal info will get you in some hot water.

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