Massage Parlor Reports

Jeepy wrote "All you spa mongers, I know how addictive it is. You will have to get over it. Your wallet will be better off for it." finally something of yours that can agree with. But really all the gloating is getting really tiresome. So good for you your predictition came to fruition. Inside info lady cop friends a ouigi board whatever you don't need to be meteorologist to predict rain. Warren has been a bubble waiting to burst, but it really hasn't rained in I don't know 20 years. Other than some drizzle it's been thriving. And something tells me that something will rise from the ruins. Maybe not warren but somewhere close in proximity. Elected officials come and go but sex errrrrrrrrr a good massage isn't going anywhere just relocating. So jeepy get off your perch, stop crowing about your intuitive Insight and stop raining on our ending parade. My only regret is not having discovered it sooner as I only had a few months to partake. Oh and of course the real shame of never having a hot dog at the shoppe, they are renowned but I pretty sure I'm not driving an hour unless the lovely Vivian is taking my order (miss her) the firecracker little Kim is working the dogs (miss her) the alluring, vivacious nana is slip sliding my order to me (miss her ). Then all the opportunities that time didn't let me sample cookie Cindy and on and on (miss them) without having even played UNO. If WE had wishes I'm sure we would prefer hearing ada and Sammie saying now serving number 69 but alas only thing I hear is froggy aka Jackie croaking out GAME OVER phlip

Cheap shot on Jackie (miss you too) so lets just say its Milkey D saying game over. Keep banging those pages in see bus and you know mikey and mayor chief of police deep deep down you know you wish your elected positions did shine the spotlight so brightly on you so you could have sampled some of warrens fireworks. Phlip

Is the place in Newton Falls still open?

Where do we go?

Where do we go now?

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[QUOTE=Coonie2;1467148]Is the place in Newton Falls still open?[/QUOTE]So far, but don't expect any extras as the pressure is on. All spas in Ohio are now a target and the state and the feds are now looking into the spa industry.

Just my opinion but for now, I would stay away from any spa in Ohio. They are being watched and cataloged. Anyone entering a spa is being recorded and might be contacted by LEO's.

From Newscenter 5:

With the help of the Attorney General's Office, authorities took a different approach over a yearlong investigation. Instead of targeting individual employees with prostitution charges, investigators used remote control cameras to record customers entering and leaving the businesses, then identified the customers and interviewed them about the activities inside, according to the search warrants.

Read more:

[url]http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/warrants-hundreds-visit-warren-massage-parlors#ixzz1xOq1CyeM[/url]

Some got visits from state LEO at home, some even got visits from state LEO at where they work. A high powered lawyer got a visit in Solon and spilled his guts. Imagine a lawyer having LEO's coming into his office telling him its either spill your guts or get prosecuted.

It gets worse. There are still people getting visits from LEO that have been identified as customers. The spa's lawsuit against the city is making the city of Warren go after the folks who were seen entering the spas. From my experience in law enforcement, the visits may go on for months after the shutdowns happen. The same thing happened in Nashville TN, Cleveland and Ashtabula as the mongers were visited up to four months after the shut downs to gather info for the legal challenges. Call it a type of SHOCK AND AWE that brings tons of evidence against the spas that they cannot refute. If by the end of the year you do not get a visit from LEO, then it is safe to say you are not going to get a visit.

The State of Ohio is involved so the spas don't have a chance. They are gone forever. The FBI is now involved as the spa owners were bringing women across state lines. The FBI is more prone to visit you at your home. They have the manpower and will do what they need to do.

Four Seasons is still open. BUT. There are cameras at the parking lot. Just a warning. I live near Warren and I have seen people still try to get into some of the closed spas. Amazing.

Omaha Nebraska also just had all of their spas shut down. The same story as Warren. Photo evidence used against the visitors and then asked to testify against the spas.

Time to go after the FLEX club in Cleveland LEO and FBI. A homo sex club that masquerades as a workout place for sodomites.

[QUOTE=Barber Shop;1464625]{I saw your ex many times and I would never guessed her to be 53. Please tell me she's working someplace now I'd definetatly drive to see her! She was a big favorite of me as well.}[/QUOTE]She's 58 now & still working!

[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1467360]So far, but don't expect any extras as the pressure is on. All spas in Ohio are now a target and the state and the feds are now looking into the spa industry.

Just my opinion but for now, I would stay away from any spa in Ohio. They are being watched and cataloged. Anyone entering a spa is being recorded and might be contacted by LEO's.[/QUOTE]I agree with Jeep. Go to a spa for a massage and if you want more go to Canada where it's legal.

Jeep, if somebody has proof that a person went to a spa then so be it. It's not illegal to go to a spa.

[QUOTE=Kyle6002;1467574]Jeep, if somebody has proof that a person went to a spa then so be it. It's not illegal to go to a spa.[/QUOTE]Don't be foolish. The pressure from the LEO is intense and they will get what they want. You are letting your little head in your pants think for your other head.

As far as being illegal to go into any of the spas that have been shut down, it is now!

How is it that knowing that it is probably best to not talk to the police or law enforcement without a lawyer, that many did talk? I can tell you. They went to their homes or where they worked and asked questions. Nothing like having a wife or children asking questions about where all the money was going. Or having a boss ask what the police wanted with you.

Pressure. Pressure. That is what they do to get you to talk.

[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1467471]From Newscenter 5:

With the help of the Attorney General's Office, authorities took a different approach over a yearlong investigation. Instead of targeting individual employees with prostitution charges, investigators used remote control cameras to record customers entering and leaving the businesses, then identified the customers and interviewed them about the activities inside, according to the search warrants.

Read more:

[url]http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/warrants-hundreds-visit-warren-massage-parlors#ixzz1xOq1CyeM[/url]

Some got visits from state LEO at home, some even got visits from state LEO at where they work. A high powered lawyer got a visit in Solon and spilled his guts. Imagine a lawyer having LEO's coming into his office telling him its either spill your guts or get prosecuted.

It gets worse. There are still people getting visits from LEO that have been identified as customers. The spa's lawsuit against the city is making the city of Warren go after the folks who were seen entering the spas. From my experience in law enforcement, the visits may go on for months after the shutdowns happen. The same thing happened in Nashville TN, Cleveland and Ashtabula as the mongers were visited up to four months after the shut downs to gather info for the legal challenges. Call it a type of SHOCK AND AWE that brings tons of evidence against the spas that they cannot refute. If by the end of the year you do not get a visit from LEO, then it is safe to say you are not going to get a visit.

The State of Ohio is involved so the spas don't have a chance. They are gone forever. The FBI is now involved as the spa owners were bringing women across state lines. The FBI is more prone to visit you at your home. They have the manpower and will do what they need to do.

Four Seasons is still open. BUT. There are cameras at the parking lot. Just a warning. I live near Warren and I have seen people still try to get into some of the closed spas. Amazing.

Omaha Nebraska also just had all of their spas shut down. The same story as Warren. Photo evidence used against the visitors and then asked to testify against the spas.

Time to go after the FLEX club in Cleveland LEO and FBI. A homo sex club that masquerades as a workout place for sodomites.[/QUOTE]Flex Club! I wonder if SU21 AKA The Lunker has been there!

Happy Mongering

I called the agent in charge of this entire operation and told him I would come down and meet him in person and give him every detail about what goes on in the spas. I told him I knew the ins-and-outs, names, employees, dates, times, everything. Any possible piece of info they were looking for to shut those places down, I had it and was willing to share with him. Guess what? He really didn't give a shit. They have all the info they need. This was a WHOLE YEAR investigation. With over 30 sworn witness affidavits, how many more do you think they need? Every single person in town knew exactly what went on in these spas. 30 or so customers confirming the suspicions of the police is more than overwhelming confirmation. So yeah, Jeep may have been right about the places being watched and being raided, but you'd be stupid if you didn't think that was all inevitable anyway. It sure as fuck wasn't some diabolical bomb-drop when the feds showed up with warrants. So believe whatever you want, I am not too worried about some cops knocking on my door to chat with me about my spa visits. If they did show up, you do what any smart person would do. Ask them to leave, and contact an attorney, or refer them to your attorney like I would.

[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1467605]Don't be foolish. The pressure from the LEO is intense and they will get what they want. You are letting your little head in your pants think for your other head.

As far as being illegal to go into any of the spas that have been shut down, it is now!

How is it that knowing that it is probably best to not talk to the police or law enforcement without a lawyer, that many did talk? I can tell you. They went to their homes or where they worked and asked questions. Nothing like having a wife or children asking questions about where all the money was going. Or having a boss ask what the police wanted with you.

Pressure. Pressure. That is what they do to get you to talk.[/QUOTE]"I have nothing to say". If they have anything on you, they will arrest you whether you co-operate or not.

By the time they get to your door at home or work, you are already screwed with family / boss. The reason they talked is they didn't know enough not to.

And whoever the attorney from Solon was that sang, make a note never to engage his services for any reason.

Jeep56 I never saw the news article on the attorney who got served an afitdaved from Leo. IMoho leo shut the spa down as far as going after the patrons there is thousands and I always got a nice massage nothing illeagal for me. So stop making people nervous and shut up!

[QUOTE=Nrdd6810;1467891]Jeep56 I never saw the news article on the attorney who got served an afitdaved from Leo. IMoho leo shut the spa down as far as going after the patrons there is thousands and I always got a nice massage nothing illeagal for me. So stop making people nervous and shut up![/QUOTE]For your information: (

[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/572518/Parlor-bust-no-surprise-for-many.html[/url]

[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/572458/Women-detail-life-in-spas.html[/url]

And the reference to the lawyer is here: [url]https://www.tuscl.net/postread.php?PID=19119[/url]

If you went to any of the spas in the last year, then you will probably be contacted according to my sources.

The LEO in Warren and the state wants to have a rock solid case. The spas were suing the city so the city just decided to end it right here and now. But there will be aftershocks as the collection of witnesses testimony will continue till the owners of the spas are put in prison. The FBI is now also involved as the interstate movement of women for sex is being reported by some of the spa workers. Plus many of the owners are from out of state. The FBI prosecutes sex slavery and they sometimes go after the guys who went to the spas too. I hope that does not happen.

Exactly. If you say you got a massage and nothing else how can they prove it unless the lady comes in and testifies against you.

[QUOTE=ziggle;1468123]Exactly. If you say you got a massage and nothing else how can they prove it unless the lady comes in and testifies against you.[/QUOTE]It is never a good idea to lie. You need to refer anyone to your attorney and talking is NOT a good idea. Keep in mind. You have a first amendment right to not say anything. And your attorney can help from that point on. But lying can have far worse consequences than refusing to talk.

[QUOTE=Spa Lunker;1467843]I called the agent in charge of this entire operation and told him I would come down and meet him in person and give him every detail about what goes on in the spas. I told him I knew the ins-and-outs, names, employees, dates, times, everything. Any possible piece of info they were looking for to shut those places down, I had it and was willing to share with him. Guess what? He really didn't give a shit. They have all the info they need. This was a WHOLE YEAR investigation. With over 30 sworn witness affidavits, how many more do you think they need? Every single person in town knew exactly what went on in these spas. 30 or so customers confirming the suspicions of the police is more than overwhelming confirmation. So yeah, Jeep may have been right about the places being watched and being raided, but you'd be stupid if you didn't think that was all inevitable anyway. It sure as fuck wasn't some diabolical bomb-drop when the feds showed up with warrants. So believe whatever you want, I am not too worried about some cops knocking on my door to chat with me about my spa visits. If they did show up, you do what any smart person would do. Ask them to leave, and contact an attorney, or refer them to your attorney like I would.[/QUOTE]Now that some of the women are talking about sex slavery, the FBI is now involved and so there is now even more investigations going on.

Plus they want more info on the owners of the spas so they can be tracked down and money gotten from them.

Don't kid yourself. The feds are now sticking their noses into this more now than before as they are listening to what some of the women are saying.

And if you did call the agent in charge, what was his name? I'd like to talk to him myself.

[QUOTE=Bookmaker; 1468131]Keep in mind. You have a first amendment right to not say anything.

It's actually the Fifth Amendment. Don't want to look stupid in front of the cops invoking the First Amendment LOL.

[QUOTE=Cleveland Report;1463573]Affidavits will not serve as evidence. They need live witnesses. Who will come forward?[/QUOTE]The attorney for the spas will get his chance to put these people on the stand on this day. They will be publicly identified and grilled very intensely I suspect. As Jeep and all of his faith valued friends and the city of Warren And Mike D know the spas will fight this very vigorously.

Happy Mongering.

[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1468150]Now that some of the women are talking about sex slavery, the FBI is now involved and so there is now even more investigations going on.

Plus they want more info on the owners of the spas so they can be tracked down and money gotten from them.

Don't kid yourself. The feds are now sticking their noses into this more now than before as they are listening to what some of the women are saying.

And if you did call the agent in charge, what was his name? I'd like to talk to him myself.[/QUOTE]If you want to talk to him Jeep he will be in Warren court 6-18-12 at 9AM testifying. Are you going to tell him how having all kinds of kinky sex all night in Warren caused you to have that terrible accident on I76 and then you saw that light?

Happy Mongering.

[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1467605]Don't be foolish. The pressure from the LEO is intense and they will get what they want. You are letting your little head in your pants think for your other head.

As far as being illegal to go into any of the spas that have been shut down, it is now!

How is it that knowing that it is probably best to not talk to the police or law enforcement without a lawyer, that many did talk? I can tell you. They went to their homes or where they worked and asked questions. Nothing like having a wife or children asking questions about where all the money was going. Or having a boss ask what the police wanted with you.

Pressure. Pressure. That is what they do to get you to talk.[/QUOTE]Jeep

I am so happy that you were here to warn us all. You are so smart. It's as if you had a cystal ball. We all should bow down to you, your IQ and your ability to predict the future. Keep patting yourself on the back and continue your fear mongering.

[QUOTE=Textb001; 1468427]Jeep.

I am so happy that you were here to warn us all. You are so smart. It's as if you had a cystal ball. We all should bow down to you, your IQ and your ability to predict the future. Keep patting yourself on the back and continue your fear mongering.[/QUOTE]Let the Jeepster have his day. He's like a debutante at the ball. Walking around with a hard-on 24/7! Now he's branched off into warning about BP and CL. Telling the Jeepster to shut up is like telling the sun not to rise. Even a broke clock is right twice a day.

All hail the might Jeepster! We are not worthy to be in your presence!

[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1468150]Now that some of the women are talking about sex slavery, the FBI is now involved and so there is now even more investigations going on.

Plus they want more info on the owners of the spas so they can be tracked down and money gotten from them.

Don't kid yourself. The feds are now sticking their noses into this more now than before as they are listening to what some of the women are saying.

And if you did call the agent in charge, what was his name? I'd like to talk to him myself.[/QUOTE]Why don't you tell us the actual jail time (no prison time just local jail time) after all the charges were plea bargained down. Also how many spa customers during that 2 year time that cameras were in use by the FBI and local police were charged the terrible charge of visiting a spa? The suspect charge of human trafficking was used here also but of course just a false assumption, correct Jeep?

Happy Mongering.

[QUOTE=Textb001; 1468427]Jeep.

I am so happy that you were here to warn us all. You are so smart. It's as if you had a cystal ball. We all should bow down to you, your IQ and your ability to predict the future. Keep patting yourself on the back and continue your fear mongering.[/QUOTE]They always killed the prophets.

[QUOTE=Book Man; 1468594]Why don't you tell us the actual jail time (no prison time just local jail time) after all the charges were plea bargained down. Also how many spa customers during that 2 year time that cameras were in use by the FBI and local police were charged the terrible charge of visiting a spa? The suspect charge of human trafficking was used here also but of course just a false assumption, correct Jeep?

Happy Mongering.[/QUOTE]Human trafficking is part of the equation. The FBI, weather correct or not, is using human trafficking to get involved. They don't really want the spa mongers but want the spa owners. They will use the spa mongers to get at the spa owners. They want the spa owners because they are also involved in other criminal activity. There are connections to criminal elements in Korea and the far east. This is international in scope. You will hear more about the connections to NY and NJ and the criminal elements that brought the women here.

There have been spa mongers who have been jailed in other crackdowns around the country in order to get them to talk. There was jail time for some spa mongers in Nashville, TN when they shut down the spas. The spa mongers eventually spilled their guts and they were released. But the damage was done and they were on the way to divorce and loss of job as they were incarcerated.

[QUOTE=Jeep56;1468722]They always killed the prophets.[/QUOTE]Congrats, you were finally right, only took a few years. Now where will you go with life? Actually get a job? Move out of mom's basement? Get a real girlfriend? Now go wipe the cumstains off your bible and go after real crime. Some prophet.

[QUOTE=KingIpinni; 1467805]Flex Club! I wonder if SU21 AKA The Lunker has been there!

Happy Mongering[/QUOTE]Haha. For somebody with always something to say, he remains strangely quite on that subject.

And Jeepster,"sodomites", really? How do you type and handle snakes at the same time?

[QUOTE=Samo38;1468887]Congrats, you were finally right, only took a few years. Now where will you go with life? Actually get a job? Move out of mom's basement? Get a real girlfriend? Now go wipe the cumstains off your bible and go after real crime. Some prophet.[/QUOTE]Well said Samo. The best quote about Jeep that I have seen referring to Jeeps predictions is "Even a broken clock is right twice a day" I wonder what cause the ol' Jeepstr will take up now? Maybe some regulars on this forum can help him with some suggestions to fill his very lonely nights. Jeep. You have been a pimple on the anus of life.

[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1468856]Human trafficking is part of the equation. The FBI, weather correct or not, is using human trafficking to get involved. They don't really want the spa mongers but want the spa owners. They will use the spa mongers to get at the spa owners. They want the spa owners because they are also involved in other criminal activity. There are connections to criminal elements in Korea and the far east. This is international in scope. You will hear more about the connections to NY and NJ and the criminal elements that brought the women here.

There have been spa mongers who have been jailed in other crackdowns around the country in order to get them to talk. There was jail time for some spa mongers in Nashville, TN when they shut down the spas. The spa mongers eventually spilled their guts and they were released. But the damage was done and they were on the way to divorce and loss of job as they were incarcerated.[/QUOTE]Do you have a fucking CLUE when it comes to the law? There is no way in the giant blue fuck any spa visitors were "jailed until they spilled their guts" because some cops were trying to get at higher-ups. They will get there through the spa employees and mamasans, not the patrons. Every once in a while you say something and I think to myself that you may actually be close to a point, and then you say some shit like this and all home goes straight out the fucking window. Seriously dude, you should be banned purely for the amount of fabricated fear-inducing garbage you post. Or this should be like Wikipedia, where you actually need to cite examples, proof, backing, something to substantiate the random shit that tumbles from your mouth.

[QUOTE=Jeep56; 694180]I have a friend who is in the know about the Warren area. (They work in the county LE and we were talking the other night.)

This friend tells me that all the spas in the Warren area. 4S, Oriental, Tokyo, Suzi Kim's and all the rest are under watch by LEO.

Watch your backs guys.

I was also told that banks are being contacted about credit cards and also that this board is monitored by LE to learn as much as possible.

If you are from out of state, the FBI gets involved because of interstate transaction involving a crime. The FBI is also involved because of the people who own these places are mostly in other states or countries. If you are from out of state, and are seen entering a spa in the Warren area, expect a visit to your door from the FBI.

License plates are being run and photos are being taken.

The same thing was done in the last few years in Ashtabula county closing the three spas there. Toledo is also on the list, with one closing and more to come according to this friend. Geauga county just closed Silver as everyone knows and there is one more on the list (the one just down the road)

Loose lips sinks ships and everyone on this site did a good job letting LEO know what was up.[/QUOTE]Here it is guys. A post from Jeepster almost 4 yrs ago. The date was 8/08. A few mos prior to this he was giving advice about clipping coupons in the paper to save 20 percent. Then his tune suddenly changed. Probably after he was questioned.

[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1468856]Human trafficking is part of the equation. The FBI, weather correct or not, is using human trafficking to get involved. They don't really want the spa mongers but want the spa owners. They will use the spa mongers to get at the spa owners. They want the spa owners because they are also involved in other criminal activity. There are connections to criminal elements in Korea and the far east. This is international in scope. You will hear more about the connections to NY and NJ and the criminal elements that brought the women here.

There have been spa mongers who have been jailed in other crackdowns around the country in order to get them to talk. There was jail time for some spa mongers in Nashville, TN when they shut down the spas. The spa mongers eventually spilled their guts and they were released. But the damage was done and they were on the way to divorce and loss of job as they were incarcerated.[/QUOTE]Stopping patting yourself on the back so hard. Why are you upset at Flex? Didn't get the reach around? Stop posting everywhere. We know you are the snitch. You are not Born Again. Just a reformed loser trying to absolve your sins. Go to church and say your 5 Hail Maries.

[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1468856]Human trafficking is part of the equation. The FBI, weather correct or not, is using human trafficking to get involved. They don't really want the spa mongers but want the spa owners. They will use the spa mongers to get at the spa owners. They want the spa owners because they are also involved in other criminal activity. There are connections to criminal elements in Korea and the far east. This is international in scope. You will hear more about the connections to NY and NJ and the criminal elements that brought the women here.

There have been spa mongers who have been jailed in other crackdowns around the country in order to get them to talk. There was jail time for some spa mongers in Nashville, TN when they shut down the spas. The spa mongers eventually spilled their guts and they were released. But the damage was done and they were on the way to divorce and loss of job as they were incarcerated.[/QUOTE]Yeah, right. I've been having some of the best sessions since the raid and the final closed down last Friday. Especially last night when I got the call to visit the last two remaining girls before they left town. I was definitely making a nuisance of myself and am still chapped from all the licking, sucking and whatever else happened between the three of us. The KOWS got to do what a KOWS got to do. And I've stuck with it to final dunk of the Titantic (formerly know as AMP Heaven). Definitely the best session by far except for my goodbye visit with PR2. So Jeepster, keep on trucking. I've got word that some will be coming back soon. New vamp time. New vamp place. When that time comes I'll send out the vamp signal for all to see. For now I can retired but by then I'll probably be hitched to one or two of them and be part of the extended family. Neoug qua Neoug qua indeed. So I've rode the Titantic till it sank and it was a good ride. My question is, why the hell was the Mayor of Warren wearing a side arm? Did anyone see that video of him and Hicks taping up the nuisance notice and crime scene tapes? What is his reason for wearing that? Props? He's the new sheriff in town? I tell you though Warren was definitely dead last night to where you could hear a pin drop except where I was at. It was definitely alive with action. Goodnight my Vitamins C and V. I hope your trip home was safe and sound. And V it was nice meeting your friend last week. Definitely a stunner. She was like a younger, sexier, skinner, second coming of Nana. But I truly miss my main stunner. She definitely has me locked in. I hope you are well too.

Here's the link and names are named:

[url]http://www.tribtoday.com/page/content.detail/id/572921/Subpoenas-served-on-spa-customers.html[/url]

So KiP, which one is you? I've got your depends and 40 right here.

15 unlucky guys have their names and city they live in posted on tribtodaydotcom and the Warren newspaper today. They will be in court Monday to testify. Anyone going to go check it out?

Happy Mongering.

Customers may testify about Warren massage parlors (Will it be the Jeepstr singing like a canary?)

[url]http://www.newsnet5.com/dpp/news/local_news/customers-may-testify-about-warren-massage-parlors[/url]

There are a lot of People going to be in court for this trial all 50 guys plus the spa workers. I think I'm Gona go to this just to see who's who

[QUOTE=Bikerman;1469997]There are a lot of People going to be in court for this trial all 50 guys plus the spa workers. I think I'm Gona go to this just to see who's who[/QUOTE]Bikerman, I think I'll join you. I wonder if Sophia is going to be there. That would be an interesting reunion. I wonder how well she handle the cross examination. Hopefully she won't be hooking up with her local drug dealer to get a fix before the trail and be under the influence. Oh, BTW, I have been in an undisclosed location somewhere in the Northern part of Warren when some of my alledged events took place. Very nice accomodations that I would recommend to anyone. And I kept the light on for you.

[QUOTE=VampireWeekend;1470082]Bikerman, I think I'll join you. I wonder if Sophia is going to be there. That would be an interesting reunion. I wonder how well she handle the cross examination. Hopefully she won't be hooking up with her local drug dealer to get a fix before the trail and be under the influence. Oh, BTW, I have been in an undisclosed location somewhere in the Northern part of Warren when some of my alledged events took place. Very nice accomodations that I would recommend to anyone. And I kept the light on for you.[/QUOTE]So the family got locked out of the house they live in, LEO took the cash they had and they are staying in a hotel trying to still run the business! You are toooooo much! I will see you at the hearing and finally get to shake your hand. LOL. From what I understand, there is going to be a total forfeiture of property. Including buildings, if there is no rental agreement and no connection proven between the Spa and Owners of the property it may differ. Let me know what you are wearing so I can identify you. This occasion may call for a fresh pressed cape! The one thing the spas have is probably the best lawyer in Warren. The fellows that spoke and choked are going to have a rough day, maybe worse than today! There is going to be a long drawn out hearing, and probably a offer to the owners shortly after for a slap on the wrist to walk away for a year! Next, there will be new legislation drawn up by the mayor and city council that will make an iron clad law to keep recreational spas from opening. Even the banks will get dry fucked in this deal. If there are mortgages, seizures take presidence! Any one for a sheriff sale?

[QUOTE=Jeep56; 1468856]Human trafficking is part of the equation. The FBI, weather correct or not, is using human trafficking to get involved. They don't really want the spa mongers but want the spa owners. They will use the spa mongers to get at the spa owners. They want the spa owners because they are also involved in other criminal activity. There are connections to criminal elements in Korea and the far east. This is international in scope. You will hear more about the connections to NY and NJ and the criminal elements that brought the women here. [QUOTE]

This is nuts. You clearly do not know these owners or workers. And you do not know how these spas work. The spa owners used to work in the spas. The smart ones saved up enough, or borrowed enough to purchase the spa. The workers choose this work because of the money. They knew Korean drivers and used them to move around because they are carrying the money they earned at the spa. Not something you want to carry on a plane. And they could travel whenever they wanted. Without being monitored. The "criminal activity / criminal elements / human trafficking" is bullshit. This isn't a big corruption / conspiracy. It's people working in spas because they can make good money without a huge risk.

When the workers (or owners)"go on vacation" they usually just go home. Home to Atlanta GA, or Tampa FL, or Philadelphia PA. They have appartments or homes in normal places. Usually somewhere that has a good size Korean community. They relax, read, watch their Korean channels, and have somewhat normal life until they head back for more money.

You think Nana couldn't have quit anytime she wanted? She came back because she wanted the money. Same reason you go to work every day. With the spa work she could afford to go back to Korean when she wanted to. At $1, 500 to $2, 000 a trip you don't do that very often working at McDonalds.

This was a good deal for us and a nice job for the girls. I hate that it is over. But I have never seen a spa area taken down that ever came back.

So. NO. There isn't any international scope. There isn't any criminal element bringing the girls here. And if you ever took the time to get to know the women who owned the spas or the women that worked there you wouldn't be writing this bullcrap.