[QUOTE=Cantwaitformor;3612428]It appears to be the latter, I have an appt in a week if they last that long ago. Look for a report.[/QUOTE]Did you ever go for your appointment? Sent you a pm also.
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[QUOTE=Cantwaitformor;3612428]It appears to be the latter, I have an appt in a week if they last that long ago. Look for a report.[/QUOTE]Did you ever go for your appointment? Sent you a pm also.
[QUOTE=MassageGoer;3642904]I'm on board as anyone on the happy ending deal, but I went to an AMP last week and actually had a bad happy ending LOL. It's a place I usually go to but got a different woman. She was probably in her 50's or 60's and not attractive. Not a great massage and no tease while face down. On the flip, she went right to stroking me. She grabbed my hand and put it on her flat ass them pulled her shorts down, undid her bra and put my hands on her tits. I love seeing tits, ass and pussy, but I prefer a much younger set of them. It took me literally 15 minutes to finish and I needed to take over to get it done. If it was the normal girl who does the massage, I would have cum almost instantaneously because she is young and pretty, but she wasn't there that day. With her, I enjoy sucking on nips and touching her nice ass. Maybe next time.[/QUOTE]Can you PM me which AMP that was?
[QUOTE=ZMan1;3642832]Saw a young thick Chinese girl. Did not leave happy, plus side. When I was back up she massaged everything.
On flip side some teasing but would not touch. She likes being touched.
She had very big saggy![/QUOTE]I have pretty much written them off last time I was their no teasing no he girl keep saying I'm shy but did want a tip. Good tip don't be shy. Think sh e said her name was anna not sure might try again.
[QUOTE=HotLcndyt;3643024]Did you ever go for your appointment? Sent you a pm also.[/QUOTE]I sent you a PM.
Great question! As one who has suffered from acute Yellow Fever for years I have to agree with all the guys that answered your question. Don't know that I've ever seen an AMP that I passed up. I enjoy the hunt, the anticipation of those little asian fingers lightly touching my ass, reaching under for the boys, finally finding the shaft, etc. Sometimes ending with a BJ or FS sometimes nothing but a lame massage. Of course I still enjoy a good romp with a professional lady who's BBBJCIM talent is superb and a good spirited fuck but there is just something about the AMP's. LOL, to each his own I guess. I enjoy both but due to convenience and walkin ease I'm probably a 60 AMP to 40 hooker guy.
[QUOTE=BTBear;3635529]After reading this report and many others recently of draped massages and un-Happy Endings, what is it about AMPs that draw you to them? When I started, way too many years ago with Jill Matthews, I knew that I would get a handy and most of the time some breast play and a little outside the kitty touching.
The average cost for an hour massage with a HE (manual) is $100. But so many times you go and for your $60 you get nothing. Why not go to one of the established USAAC ladies, pay for a half hour (realistically that is more time than you get on the flip) and either get a BBBJ or full service? That includes DFK, DATY and a chance to talk ENGLISH with for the entire time you are there. I know one provider who charges $125 for the half. She is not a clock watcher. She is smart, sexy and a great time. Trust me you will have a better time with her for $125 because her BBBJ is stupendous. Hell she will even kiss you and let you DATY in that half hour. Compared to an AMP that is "Wholesale instead of Retail. ".
What is it that causes you to pay $60 for the opportunity to maybe pay $100 for a handy, when for $125 you can get the Full Monty? If you are paranoid about "disease" just ask the provider to do EVERYTHING COVERED (hell even the handy if you want.).
Is it the fact that you don't have to to plan for the appointment and to make sure you can be vetted by the provider? If you want to eat at the Precinct you will make a reservation at least a couple of hours in advance to make sure you don't have to wait for a table and then spend upwards of $200 for a meal for two. For me, the anticipation of a way younger than me woman eagerly awaiting my planned rendezvous actually heightens my excitement. I know that she is all mine for the whole time I am there. No matter how fat and ugly I am she will still say, "you are sexy. Now fuck me. " Can you say that of the Korean / Thai / Vietnamese / Chinese / Japanese human trafficked woman who is just trying to pay her "tab" to the boss and has two guys waiting in the wings?
I would rather pay 25% more for a sure thing than throw money down the table shower drain. Maybe I should post this in the "Octogan" so that this post would not be slammed and I would not be labeled a "White Knight" for my comments. But since I posted it hear to get the greatest response, haters / slammers hate and slam, I really don't care what you think anyway. This was meant to just get some insight into the AMP-lover mentality about what they do and why.
Of course this post is dependent on calling a PROFESSIONAL provider not a 20 something newbie who is just looking for her next dime bag....[/QUOTE]
Went on Friday and did not get to see my regular. 1 hr with new girl. Young and very pretty. Not my best ending but self serve was better than nothing. Massage was very well done. Worth it just for that.
I went to D-1 in Florence, The massage was ok but she kept asking me if I wanted more time! I got the one hour massage but she would not stop asking me for more time. Very light touching, DIY, not very pretty. I don't think I will be back.
[QUOTE=PromoMan;3643318]I have pretty much written them off last time I was their no teasing no he girl keep saying I'm shy but did want a tip. Good tip don't be shy. Think sh e said her name was anna not sure might try again.[/QUOTE]I agree, Not sure I would go there again either.
Been there multiple times and never had anything much happen but always had a feeling.
Went again last night, same gal as always. Put your time in is all I'm saying.
Just like Florence Accupressure old days with Nina. PUT YOUR TIME IN!
[QUOTE=Chill32;3644405]Been there multiple times and never had anything much happen but always had a feeling.
Went again last night, same gal as always. Put your time in is all I'm saying.
Just like Florence Accupressure old days with Nina. PUT YOUR TIME IN![/QUOTE]Same experience. Can't understand her name but it sound like it starts with a t tina or something. PUT you time in.
Paid a visit here based on some reviews. Very attractive women, definitely Korean, not Chinese. Place is a really nice house with wood floors and panels and great lighting. Heated table. Menu was offered up front, a bit pricey but I got a little bonus. No one else there at the time so I received a 4 H+CBJ special. Reports about shorting on time are accurate, 42 mins, paid for 1 hour. Almost worthless massage with baby powder, no real teasing, the rest was fun. May repeat if I want to drop the extra cash.
Look street view and it's a neighborhood and a regular house. How safe can be that. No neighbors complains? With all the postings! Can someone enlighten me how safe is.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=DaytonNew;3647103]Look street view and it's a neighborhood and a regular house. How safe can be that. No neighbors complains? With all the postings! Can someone enlighten me how safe is.
Stay safe.[/QUOTE]The house is zoned business from what I can figure out. It looks like it was once a hair salon, from the lay out on the inside. When you walk in there is a lobby / reception area that you would see in a salon.
I also thought it was an odd set up the first time I went there. I never felt out of place, unsafe or like the neighbors were watching. Parking behind the building and out of view of the street traffic.
[QUOTE=CincyHobbist;3647310]The house is zoned business from what I can figure out. It looks like it was once a hair salon, from the lay out on the inside. When you walk in there is a lobby / reception area that you would see in a salon.
I also thought it was an odd set up the first time I went there. I never felt out of place, unsafe or like the neighbors were watching. Parking behind the building and out of view of the street traffic.[/QUOTE]A business offering blow outs and perms is one thing in an otherwise residential looking neighborhood. Asians doing body rubs is another. When the fun eventually comes to an end, the sinister angle that will be played up in the news headlines will be the poor defenseless school children. They were just yards away from a massage parlor that was giving out HJs and BJs in this safe and wholesome suburban community.
In some states, proximity to a church or school brings added charges. Too early in the day to be reviewing the ORC so I am not certain what is done in Ohio.
Based on reviews and backchannel info I did a drive by of 899 several months ago. Even with the ability to park behind the house I changed my mind about stopping based upon the residential aspect of the area and the school. This place is too easily labeled as a nuisance and has to have several eyes watching. It is lucky to have lasted this long particularly with the overt menu options they are providing. I am sure that local LE have not yet gotten all of their mileage out of the place. Those AMP busts are always a "culmination of months and months of undercover work" yet in about 80 percent of my AMP experiences I am leaving happy on the very first visit. Go figure.
[QUOTE=Ceenote;3647629]A business offering blow outs and perms is one thing in an otherwise residential looking neighborhood. Asians doing body rubs is another. When the fun eventually comes to an end, the sinister angle that will be played up in the news headlines will be the poor defenseless school children. They were just yards away from a massage parlor that was giving out HJs and BJs in this safe and wholesome suburban community.
In some states, proximity to a church or school brings added charges. Too early in the day to be reviewing the ORC so I am not certain what is done in Ohio.
Based on reviews and backchannel info I did a drive by of 899 several months ago. Even with the ability to park behind the house I changed my mind about stopping based upon the residential aspect of the area and the school. This place is too easily labeled as a nuisance and has to have several eyes watching. It is lucky to have lasted this long particularly with the overt menu options they are providing. I am sure that local LE have not yet gotten all of their mileage out of the place. Those AMP busts are always a "culmination of months and months of undercover work" yet in about 80 percent of my AMP experiences I am leaving happy on the very first visit. Go figure.[/QUOTE]I agree with ceenote. My experience in other cities is that BJs and FS places last if they are on strip malls or secluded places. No close to a school. Can someone PM any other AMP with bjs north of the river. My place just provides HJ.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=Ceenote;3647629]A business offering blow outs and perms is one thing in an otherwise residential looking neighborhood. Asians doing body rubs is another. When the fun eventually comes to an end, the sinister angle that will be played up in the news headlines will be the poor defenseless school children. They were just yards away from a massage parlor that was giving out HJs and BJs in this safe and wholesome suburban community.
In some states, proximity to a church or school brings added charges. Too early in the day to be reviewing the ORC so I am not certain what is done in Ohio.
Based on reviews and backchannel info I did a drive by of 899 several months ago. Even with the ability to park behind the house I changed my mind about stopping based upon the residential aspect of the area and the school. This place is too easily labeled as a nuisance and has to have several eyes watching. It is lucky to have lasted this long particularly with the overt menu options they are providing. I am sure that local LE have not yet gotten all of their mileage out of the place. Those AMP busts are always a "culmination of months and months of undercover work" yet in about 80 percent of my AMP experiences I am leaving happy on the very first visit. Go figure.[/QUOTE]I know there are busts but I have to believe that a place giving out blowjobs is pretty far down the list when compared to the all the other crimes / drugs going on in the city.
Hell, one AMP that that I know of has offered full service for years and has never been busted. Yet. Knock on wood.
[QUOTE=Chill32;3647783]I know there are busts but I have to believe that a place giving out blowjobs is pretty far down the list when compared to the all the other crimes / drugs going on in the city.
Hell, one AMP that that I know of has offered full service for years and has never been busted. Yet. Knock on wood.[/QUOTE]Well, as you can probably tell cops don't work off a "priority" crime list. They go after low hanging fruit that generates revenue (john school) and provides the public with the perception of cleaning up the streets. I mean, if we use the system you provided, they would all be stopping other crimes and not be handing out parking/traffic tickets etc.
[QUOTE=Chill32;3647783]I know there are busts but I have to believe that a place giving out blowjobs is pretty far down the list when compared to the all the other crimes / drugs going on in the city.
Hell, one AMP that that I know of has offered full service for years and has never been busted. Yet. Knock on wood.[/QUOTE]I feel a lot safer in a AMP bare ass naked with a cute little asain rubbing my balls than walking across some parking lot and some druggy asking for money cause his car ran out of gas or or his wife needs an operation. The girls came here for a reason to get a better life. They have parents back home who are probable worried about them. Let them make some money be safe, time will weed out the bad ones.
[QUOTE=AlphaDiesel;3646062]Paid a visit here based on some reviews. Very attractive women, definitely Korean, not Chinese. Place is a really nice house with wood floors and panels and great lighting. Heated table. Menu was offered up front, a bit pricey but I got a little bonus. No one else there at the time so I received a 4 H+CBJ special. Reports about shorting on time are accurate, 42 mins, paid for 1 hour. Almost worthless massage with baby powder, no real teasing, the rest was fun. May repeat if I want to drop the extra cash.[/QUOTE]Can confirm the place is safe, very pretty ladies, nice heated table. Actually had a very good massage. One of the nicest salons in SW Ohio. Seniors can PM for details.
[QUOTE=Bkbh1;3648415]Can confirm the place is safe, very pretty ladies, nice heated table. Actually had a very good massage. One of the nicest salons in SW Ohio. Seniors can PM for details.[/QUOTE]Went there yesterday morning just before lunch. Felt completely safe there. 2 really nice ladies. The younger one speaks better English so negotiating is done through her. Quite enjoyable experience. Only caveat is what has been said before. An hour is really only 40 minutes.
I was on the Westside so I decided to stop in Sakura. I appreciate AMPs and the game. You win some and you lose some. Luckily, I was able to walk right in with no wait. I paid the usual for 30 minutes with Anna.
The main reason I am writing the review is because of the smell. I have bad sinuses and don't have a great sense of smell. The smell hit me when I walked in the door. It was a really bad Ass smell. I really questioned wether I was going to stay as I walked backed to the room. I figured it may have been temporary or I would get used to it.
Since I am doing the review, Anna did not seem to be into it at all. Not sure if this is her normal demeanor or if I caught her on a bad day. She got the job done. I will not repeat based on her lack of enthusiasm but mostly the smell that only got worse while I was there.
I have always gone for 60 minute sessions at AMPs. For those who have sometimes gone for 30 minute sessions, are you less likely to get extras?
Thanks,
Mt.
[QUOTE=MassageIt;3649956]I have always gone for 60 minute sessions at AMPs. For those who have sometimes gone for 30 minute sessions, are you less likely to get extras?
Thanks,
Mt.[/QUOTE]Interesting question if you go for 30 min that leaves more for a tip maybe more and better extras. In a in a perfect world a girl could do 4 30 min plus extras. =30 min is usually 40 as opposed to 60 so 4 x40 =160 plus 40 tip =160 = 320 or 2 x60 =120 x40 tip = 80 or 200.
Currently Coco in Loveland. Spent 45 minutes working the kinks out of the neck and shoulders. Best massage ever and have had 2-4 per month for years. She followed instructions very well and really put her whole body weight into it. Felt very relaxed and will return.
Limp Vinny.
[QUOTE=PromoMan;3650257]Interesting question if you go for 30 min that leaves more for a tip maybe more and better extras. In a in a perfect world a girl could do 4 30 min plus extras. =30 min is usually 40 as opposed to 60 so 4 x40 =160 plus 40 tip =160 = 320 or 2 x60 =120 x40 tip = 80 or 200.[/QUOTE]Promo, I understand where you're going with this and I agree with you 100%. Perhaps an easier way to explain it might be this?
At a typical AMP, aside from the door fee, a girl can get 4 x $40 tips, (or $160 for the girl) in two hours, and the house will get 4 x $40 door fees (or $160 for the house).
At the same AMP, aside from the door fee, a girl can get 2 x $40 tips, (or $80 for the girl) in two hours (or less), and the house will get 2 x $60 door fees (or $120 for the house).
Since the girl can get an extra $80 in two hours by doing 4 x 30 minute massages, and the house can get an extra $40 by doing 2 x 60 minute massages, and since many (not all) of the 60 minute massages are curt short by as much as 20 or 30 minutes anyway, why would guys want to pay an extra $20 for a 60 minute massage that may only last 30-45 minutes? Seems to me that the girl and the house would both be pushing the 30 minute $40 massage? Does anyone do the 30 minute version that could chime in on how much difference there between the two there might be?
[QUOTE=PromoMan;3650257]Interesting question if you go for 30 min that leaves more for a tip maybe more and better extras. In a in a perfect world a girl could do 4 30 min plus extras. =30 min is usually 40 as opposed to 60 so 4 x40 =160 plus 40 tip =160 = 320 or 2 x60 =120 x40 tip = 80 or 200.[/QUOTE]Your logic is correct, but my impression from experience is that you are more likely to get more extras with a 60 min visit. However, it is not an absolute rule. YMMV.
[QUOTE=Vinlmp;3650351]
Limp Vinny.[/QUOTE]They have pills now that can fix that.
Not sure I'm following the Math?
Thanks.
[QUOTE=Golden3;3650641]Your logic is correct, but my impression from experience is that you are more likely to get more extras with a 60 min visit. However, it is not an absolute rule. YMMV.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DoctorAl;3650746]Not sure I'm following the Math?
Thanks.[/QUOTE]PromoMan's calculations showed that a girl who took 3 half hour customers, with extras for each one, would bring in more money for the house and also make more in tips than one who took 2 full hour customers. However, I don't think that it happens that way in reality.
Hi I understand the premise but his numbers are not correct that's all I was pointing out.
[QUOTE=Golden3;3650933]PromoMan's calculations showed that a girl who took 3 half hour customers, with extras for each one, would bring in more money for the house and also make more in tips than one who took 2 full hour customers. However, I don't think that it happens that way in reality.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pictraders69;3650589]Promo, I understand where you're going with this and I agree with you 100%. Perhaps an easier way to explain it might be this?
At a typical AMP, aside from the door fee, a girl can get 4 x $40 tips, (or $160 for the girl) in two hours, and the house will get 4 x $40 door fees (or $160 for the house).
At the same AMP, aside from the door fee, a girl can get 2 x $40 tips, (or $80 for the girl) in two hours (or less), and the house will get 2 x $60 door fees (or $120 for the house).
Since the girl can get an extra $80 in two hours by doing 4 x 30 minute massages, and the house can get an extra $40 by doing 2 x 60 minute massages, and since many (not all) of the 60 minute massages are curt short by as much as 20 or 30 minutes anyway, why would guys want to pay an extra $20 for a 60 minute massage that may only last 30-45 minutes? Seems to me that the girl and the house would both be pushing the 30 minute $40 massage? Does anyone do the 30 minute version that could chime in on how much difference there between the two there might be?[/QUOTE]As a veteran of AMP's for about 20 years now, no difference in service or extras going for 30 minutes. I have only gone an hour two times in all those years. Like to get in, get off and get out.
I many, many more times, than not, leave happy with a 30 minute visit.
[QUOTE=Golden3;3650641]Your logic is correct, but my impression from experience is that you are more likely to get more extras with a 60 min visit. However, it is not an absolute rule. YMMV.[/QUOTE]I just do 30 minutes for the last three years. I get all the extras that they provide regardless of the 30 minutes. My usual damage in. 40 for the house, . 40 for HJ, 0. 80 for BJ and 1. 20 for FS. 0 to 0. 2 for no extras.
I don't think you will get more extras getting an hour. At least on my experience.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=Tnt368;3649478]I was on the Westside so I decided to stop in Sakura. I appreciate AMPs and the game. You win some and you lose some. Luckily, I was able to walk right in with no wait. I paid the usual for 30 minutes with Anna.
The main reason I am writing the review is because of the smell. I have bad sinuses and don't have a great sense of smell. The smell hit me when I walked in the door. It was a really bad Ass smell. I really questioned wether I was going to stay as I walked backed to the room. I figured it may have been temporary or I would get used to it.
Since I am doing the review, Anna did not seem to be into it at all. Not sure if this is her normal demeanor or if I caught her on a bad day. She got the job done. I will not repeat based on her lack of enthusiasm but mostly the smell that only got worse while I was there.[/QUOTE]Anna was great when I was there. I noticed the sakura BP ad no longer has her pic. Maybe she was told she was moving to another location and was bummed out?
Mt.
[QUOTE=DaytonNew;3651141]I just do 30 minutes for the last three years. I get all the extras that they provide regardless of the 30 minutes. My usual damage in. 40 for the house, . 40 for HJ, 0. 80 for BJ and 1. 20 for FS. 0 to 0. 2 for no extras.
I don't think you will get more extras getting an hour. At least on my experience.
Stay safe.[/QUOTE]That was my point earlier. If you're likely going to get shorted on the 1 hr massage time anyway, like many AMPs so often do, why not just go for 30 minutes. Some places will do the full hour, but those that don't should be brought to the front of the class and recognized, so we know who is doing the full hour and who is cheating the clock. I think it would be much harder to 'cheat the clock' on a 30 minute adventure. Just saying'.
[QUOTE=DoctorAl;3650952]Hi I understand the premise but his numbers are not correct that's all I was pointing out.[/QUOTE]Forget tips. I said 4 not 3 half hour massages,. At $40 for half is $ 40 x4 is $160 $60 for 1 hrs 2 x $60 $120.
[QUOTE=Golden3;3650641]Your logic is correct, but my impression from experience is that you are more likely to get more extras with a 60 min visit. However, it is not an absolute rule. YMMV.[/QUOTE]The thinking is I I believe 60 min appears to be more legit. 30 is like someone said get in get off and get out.
[QUOTE=PromoMan;3651237]The thinking is I I believe 60 min appears to be more legit. 30 is like someone said get in get off and get out.[/QUOTE]In my 31 years of AMP experience, I have really not seen much difference in the availability of extras from 30,60, or 90 minutes. The amount of time that the extras take is usually longer with more time but if extras are available, they are usually offered regardless of the amount of time that I am there. And I think that the girls like 60 minutes more than 30 minutes. Nearly every time that I go to an AMP and get 30 minutes, the massage ends with the girl telling me to get more time next time. As for getting shorted on time, it has happened occasionally but not recently in the places that I have been to. Maybe it happens to guys who are less agreeable to be with?
[QUOTE=PromoMan;3651237]The thinking is I I believe 60 min appears to be more legit. 30 is like someone said get in get off and get out.[/QUOTE]This is a general misnomer. Go 30 minutes unless the mamason objects or insists you take an hour. Koreans rarely adhere to time and by taking 30 minutes you will get as much or more than you paid for simply because "it looks more legit". This is a concern for them and not your problem.
The Koreans are overall the better AMP girls. The Chinese places mostly offer DIY and can take many frustrating visits before you are offered HE. There is a huge number of AMPs in Southern Ohio these days. There hasn't been a decent one since C&D about 15 years ago. Even Breil was overpriced and poor service.
Was contacted today buy an old friend I've seen off and on for 10 yrs who needs some help. Trained in massage with her own table (milking table at that) works out of an apartment near Ikea. 150 hr. She's been on backpage in the past but she desperately needs clients and $$. Just lost her regular job and the engine blew in her car, so if you have a car to donate she would be grateful. Known her for years and she's not on drugs. Nice body and very skilled. Trusted seniors PM for digits and info. Thanks.
Golfguy.
Where can I go to get a good DIY he at least today? I live in northern KY, I have been to relax massage in Kenwood back when Vivien was there. I've been to 7117 turf way 3 times. Anne was great on the diy, the last time it was an awkward young girl who didn't speak any English.