Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

I wanted to put it out there because I am slightly confused on what most would consider an ebony provider. When I think of ebony I think of an african american girl. I think of curves but not fat, exotic, brown skinned beauty. I thought that's what made us ebony girls ebony. When I got into this business, there were no, are no, ebony providers in the tristate. Then I started looking a little deeper into what folks were saying and when I did I learned that the ebony definition I was going off of evidently is not ebony. When your as light as some of the non ebony providers and you say your french, or carribean, etc. Does that qualify as ebony? If it does then what do I classify myself as? Black? I feel if you don't have an african american mother and and african american father, you are not ebony. Or is it still a stigma that any percentage of black in your dna makes you black? I'm just saying when I see a provider that's light skinned, and 110 lbs and says she is mixed with everything under the Sun. But african american, I do not at all consider that an ebony provider. So where do I fit. I m smaller on top than most. My waist is 23 inches, but I have a big butt. I have curves. I am the poster child for EBONY. Not Fat 32-23-43. Amazing Body that looks as if it was molded together, but I don't know if I'm advertising myself correctly. I'm not a bbw LOL. Should I advertise as one.? Just need feedback.

[QUOTE=SkirtChasa;1946558]It's becoming an all-too familiar pattern that providers who are stellar fall into a downturn of unreliability or downright flakiness (is that a word)? I've been disappointed so many times by providers who I become a regular with who all of a sudden won't return texts / calls, stand me up for scheduled appointments, or simply drop off the radar. Is it the drug culture sucking them down? Is it just me, or do you guys see this all to often. Since I'm farily new to the hobby, it could be that I just trust people too much.[/QUOTE]Some of the SP are good about returning texts and some are very hit or miss. One SP that advertises on here a lot rarely returns texts and I have not been able to hook up with her. Another 5-star well known provider on here stood me up one time. Was so excited to see her, went to her apt, knocked, texted, called and nothing.

I think it is the nature of the beast. I have to tell myself these ladies don't sit around waiting for the phone to ring and are not at our beck and call. When I get a hankering for a dream, I send out 2-4 texts and see what bites I get. I use Google texting and it is so exciting to see the Google text box turn blue. Meaning I got a return.

Sorry, I am bored at work. Thought it would be interesting to share any crazy, unusual, funny hook up stories whether civilian or pro.

Civilian.

#1 When I was in middle school I was a scrawny shy kid and this jewish kid picked on me. Fast forward 15 years and after hitting the bars we hit a local late night eatery and this older lady was eye fucking me (something that never happens to me). Me and my buddy talk to her and find out she is the mother of the jewish kid who used to pick on me. We go back to my apt to hang out and after a while my buddy takes off leaving just us. This lady was in her 50's and heavy set. I was mid twenties and in the best shape of my life. We go into my bedroom and started going at it. I stand on my bed and she gave me one hell of a blow job and I very quickly put a huge load (I am in my twenties remember) down her throat and she even commented on the size of the load. I then walked her to her car. Of course I told my buddy nothing happened be / see this lady was just too old and heavy. She definitely bucked the stereotype of jewish women and oral sex.

#2 First weekend of college my jr. Year, I nailed this smoking hot freshman. Hooking up was rare for me, especially with hot chicks. I never have been so impressed after taking a girl's bra off. This chick was probably 125 pounds with easy DDs. Next day, my girlfriend moves into her freshman dorm and the girl I banged lives there too. What are the chances on a huge college campus? She sees me several times visiting my gf but never says a word.

Pro.

I was a sheltered kid from the suburbs. My friend's brother and friends were talking about picking up SW on vine. A number of months later after a friends wedding downtown, I remember the stories about the SW so I go cruising while very drunk and pick up a SW. She leads me to an cockroach invested apt downtown with several people doing drugs. Here I am, a white kid with a tux on sitting on the bed in a crack house. Stupid!

At the risk of waking a now dormant argument, unrelated to this post's topic, I'm curious about one poster's comment regarding mongering while armed.

As we all learn in CCW class, being armed gives us greater responsibility to avoid conflict, not less, and I'm not sure under what circumstances the use of lethal force would be legal in a mongering-turned-robbery situation. Obviously, if our safety is seriously at risk, we have a right to self defense, but saying, in essence, "any pimp messes with me is going to get shot," is either bravado or short-sighted.

Having said that, I wouldn't go into some of the questionable areas or situations mongers face without being armed.

(As a side note, I sure wouldn't go carrying a big clunky "judge.

So, I'm curious about your thoughts on the matter; do you carry while mongering, would you use your firearm only for safe retreat, except as a last resort, where do you keep it (I myself never fully undress the first time), what are the implications of having a gun on you in the commission of a crime, etc.

This seems like a topic where we might learn from one another. I'm not interested in chest-thumping, but rather in rational opinions about the pros and cons of mongering armed.

[QUOTE=SkirtChasa;1946558]It's becoming an all-too familiar pattern that providers who are stellar fall into a downturn of unreliability or downright flakiness (is that a word)? I've been disappointed so many times by providers who I become a regular with who all of a sudden won't return texts / calls, stand me up for scheduled appointments, or simply drop off the radar. Is it the drug culture sucking them down? Is it just me, or do you guys see this all to often. Since I'm farily new to the hobby, it could be that I just trust people too much.[/QUOTE]The majority of these women will always fuck you if you trust them. In a bad way. Most are drug addicts and they could give two shots about you or me buddy. The skills that they display in customer service and sales (which they are essentially doing for a living) is laughable. A high school education is probably few and far between. An escort with her head on straight can make a killing. To find that girl, we probably have to shell out a lot more $, so we settle for this LOL. Not bashing ALL providers on this board, just letting the truth be known.

I received more calls today from 'newbies' offering up a copy of their DL and promises of $$ for a meet and greet than I have all year.

My spidey-sense is tingling, maybe I just have jet lag, or maybe hobbyists are actually reading my website. Who knows?

On a side note, all of us providers should not be lumped into the 'uneducated' category. As with everything in the circle of life, there are exceptions to the rule. Anyone want to talk to me about the central dogma of biology?

[QUOTE=DavidNgrk;1946788]Some of the SP are good about returning texts and some are very hit or miss. One SP that advertises on here a lot rarely returns texts and I have not been able to hook up with her. Another 5-star well known provider on here stood me up one time. Was so excited to see her, went to her apt, knocked, texted, called and nothing.

I think it is the nature of the beast. I have to tell myself these ladies don't sit around waiting for the phone to ring and are not at our beck and call. When I get a hankering for a dream, I send out 2-4 texts and see what bites I get. I use Google texting and it is so exciting to see the Google text box turn blue. Meaning I got a return.[/QUOTE]I know how you guys feel. I have been stood up even by so called 5 star providers that I have seen a number of times in the past. What they don't relize is that if they build up a steady customer base, they will have no worries of having to see newbies or Uncle LEO. So we as mongers play ping pong with our phones.

[QUOTE=SkirtChasa;1946558]It's becoming an all-too familiar pattern that providers who are stellar fall into a downturn of unreliability or downright flakiness (is that a word)? I've been disappointed so many times by providers who I become a regular with who all of a sudden won't return texts / calls, stand me up for scheduled appointments, or simply drop off the radar. Is it the drug culture sucking them down? Is it just me, or do you guys see this all to often. Since I'm farily new to the hobby, it could be that I just trust people too much.[/QUOTE]" A beautiful woman!

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;1947134]I received more calls today from 'newbies' offering up a copy of their DL and promises of $$ for a meet and greet than I have all year.

My spidey-sense is tingling, maybe I just have jet lag, or maybe hobbyists are actually reading my website. Who knows?

On a side note, all of us providers should not be lumped into the 'uneducated' category. As with everything in the circle of life, there are exceptions to the rule. Anyone want to talk to me about the central dogma of biology?[/QUOTE]You're absolutely correct Molly. That's why I said my comment doesn't apply to ALL providers. However, it does apply to most. That's just the cold hard truth. Now about the whole central dogma thing, not a damn clue what you're talking about LOL.

[QUOTE=DickHerDown;1947621]You're absolutely correct Molly. That's why I said my comment doesn't apply to ALL providers. However, it does apply to most. That's just the cold hard truth. Now about the whole central dogma thing, not a damn clue what you're talking about LOL.[/QUOTE]That was the point.

But my little joke backfired on me, because at least one member here does know what I'm talking about.

So, BRING THAT SNOW!

I'm ready to do some more of this.

[URL]http://s1304.photobucket.com/user/MollyDaniels/media/Ifallslow-mo_zps02d2189c.mp4.html[/URL]

And, due to that, I'm thinking about having a best male massage contest. Want to enter?

[QUOTE=MollyDaniels;1947134]I received more calls today from 'newbies' offering up a copy of their DL and promises of $$ for a meet and greet than I have all year.

My spidey-sense is tingling, maybe I just have jet lag, or maybe hobbyists are actually reading my website. Who knows?

On a side note, all of us providers should not be lumped into the 'uneducated' category. As with everything in the circle of life, there are exceptions to the rule. Anyone want to talk to me about the central dogma of biology?[/QUOTE]I'm your Huckleberry.

I carry all the time, mongering our not. For me, it's always last resort or if a real threat presents itself quickly then it would be immediate. One young provider freaked that I carried but was cool with it when I told her I had a CCW license. Not sure why that made a difference but it did.

-BigBird69.

[QUOTE=Festellung;1946832]At the risk of waking a now dormant argument, unrelated to this post's topic, I'm curious about one poster's comment regarding mongering while armed.

As we all learn in CCW class, being armed gives us greater responsibility to avoid conflict, not less, and I'm not sure under what circumstances the use of lethal force would be legal in a mongering-turned-robbery situation. Obviously, if our safety is seriously at risk, we have a right to self defense, but saying, in essence, "any pimp messes with me is going to get shot," is either bravado or short-sighted.

Having said that, I wouldn't go into some of the questionable areas or situations mongers face without being armed.

(As a side note, I sure wouldn't go carrying a big clunky "judge.

So, I'm curious about your thoughts on the matter; do you carry while mongering, would you use your firearm only for safe retreat, except as a last resort, where do you keep it (I myself never fully undress the first time), what are the implications of having a gun on you in the commission of a crime, etc.

This seems like a topic where we might learn from one another. I'm not interested in chest-thumping, but rather in rational opinions about the pros and cons of mongering armed.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SkirtChasa;1946558]It's becoming an all-too familiar pattern that providers who are stellar fall into a downturn of unreliability or downright flakiness (is that a word)? I've been disappointed so many times by providers who I become a regular with who all of a sudden won't return texts / calls, stand me up for scheduled appointments, or simply drop off the radar. Is it the drug culture sucking them down? Is it just me, or do you guys see this all to often. Since I'm farily new to the hobby, it could be that I just trust people too much.[/QUOTE]"A beautiful woman!

[QUOTE=KarmynBankz;1946708]I wanted to put it out there because I am slightly confused on what most would consider an ebony provider. When I think of ebony I think of an african american girl. I think of curves but not fat, exotic, brown skinned beauty. I thought that's what made us ebony girls ebony. When I got into this business, there were no, are no, ebony providers in the tristate. Then I started looking a little deeper into what folks were saying and when I did I learned that the ebony definition I was going off of evidently is not ebony. When your as light as some of the non ebony providers and you say your french, or carribean, etc. Does that qualify as ebony? If it does then what do I classify myself as? Black? I feel if you don't have an african american mother and and african american father, you are not ebony. Or is it still a stigma that any percentage of black in your dna makes you black? I'm just saying when I see a provider that's light skinned, and 110 lbs and says she is mixed with everything under the Sun. But african american, I do not at all consider that an ebony provider. So where do I fit. I m smaller on top than most. My waist is 23 inches, but I have a big butt. I have curves. I am the poster child for EBONY. Not Fat 32-23-43. Amazing Body that looks as if it was molded together, but I don't know if I'm advertising myself correctly. I'm not a bbw LOL. Should I advertise as one.? Just need feedback.[/QUOTE]I think the term ebony comes from a type of porn that features black girls. I'm sure they got the term from Ebony magazine. Porn producers needed a semi-politically correct way to describe the brown and dark skinned black girls who were in the videos / photos. As far as a French, Caribbean provider, it seems like you are referring to Noelle Von. I met her once and I think most guys would consider her a black girl (ebony).

[QUOTE=SkirtChasa;1946558]It's becoming an all-too familiar pattern that providers who are stellar fall into a downturn of unreliability or downright flakiness (is that a word)? I've been disappointed so many times by providers who I become a regular with who all of a sudden won't return texts / calls, stand me up for scheduled appointments, or simply drop off the radar. Is it the drug culture sucking them down? Is it just me, or do you guys see this all to often. Since I'm farily new to the hobby, it could be that I just trust people too much.[/QUOTE]When mongers stop catering to these "providers" and keep it 100% business, the flakes will either quit or get their shit together. Its almost impossible to get a princess to step off of her pedestal. When a "provider" becomes a regular, she gains a sense of entitlement and comfort. The monger just becomes another sucker they are playing. These girls can sense weakness and always take advantage of it.