"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2a24f791-2707-4b14-a62b-25cdce4ee0e8[/URL]

Anyone have intel on her?

Sometimes they're both! There has been a lot of discussion about this recently.

Have been chatting with this on on SA recently. [URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c1cc8ca1-8825-4dd8-bb58-8e448d6b417d[/URL].

She sent me her number today to start texting. I always Google the number and the first listing is her ad on Escort Monkey LOL.

[URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/criss-escort-petersburg-942745[/URL]

Just sharing info.

[QUOTE=GeechieDan;5452434][URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/2a24f791-2707-4b14-a62b-25cdce4ee0e8[/URL]

Anyone have intel on her?[/QUOTE]Gave me her number right away sounds like a pro eager to meet have not jumped in yet.

That should be the rebranding of this site. The number of girls basically on for handouts, or as they put it "spoiling" is off the charts thanks to social media / tik tok and SA refusing to enforce its own rules for the female profiles. Rather than trying to improve it, SA makes it even worse as now their wish lists are automatically in the profile text and promoted even more.

I mean, has there ever been a site focused less on the paying customers than this one. It's so ripe for disruption it's insane. I still find gems but it gets worse and worse every day.

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;5454528]That should be the rebranding of this site. The number of girls basically on for handouts, or as they put it "spoiling" is off the charts thanks to social media / tik tok and SA refusing to enforce its own rules for the female profiles. Rather than trying to improve it, SA makes it even worse as now their wish lists are automatically in the profile text and promoted even more.

I mean, has there ever been a site focused less on the paying customers than this one. It's so ripe for disruption it's insane. I still find gems but it gets worse and worse every day.[/QUOTE]It's just a business monetizing any angle it can get its hands on! SD buys those gifts through their site, they get a kick back, no doubt. I mean Brandon Wade hasn't made enough money yet. He needs a $MM a month to support his SB. LOL.

But without enticing girls with the fantasy of something for nothing, a lot of girls wouldn't show up. No girls, no paying guys! LOL!

[QUOTE=TomDickNHarry;5454528]That should be the rebranding of this site. The number of girls basically on for handouts, or as they put it "spoiling" is off the charts thanks to social media / tik tok and SA refusing to enforce its own rules for the female profiles. Rather than trying to improve it, SA makes it even worse as now their wish lists are automatically in the profile text and promoted even more.

I mean, has there ever been a site focused less on the paying customers than this one. It's so ripe for disruption it's insane. I still find gems but it gets worse and worse every day.[/QUOTE]It's a weird business model for sure. The paying customer is the second rate citizen. The girls (the bait) is treated like a royalty. I get it, they need girls to generate customers but come on, does it have to be this bad for SDs? I'm guessing they ran the numbers and figured out this is the best way until their reputation is into the ground and guys stop paying for lack of value. As opposed to weeding out all scammers and platonic and ending up with too few girls. Thereby just re-enforcing the scammers and platonic requests since they run free on the site.

Like most, I only get a month's membership in SA at a time, build up a lot of contacts, and try to follow up on them even after my membership expires. However, I find that even if I have had good interactions texting with a POT, it can be difficult when I no longer have a profile on the site (I take it down when I am not paid, to prevent a lot of fruitless messaging) to them to engage. Does anyone have any tricks to get this going?

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;5455318]It's a weird business model for sure. The paying customer is the second rate citizen. The girls (the bait) is treated like a royalty. I get it, they need girls to generate customers but come on, does it have to be this bad for SDs? I'm guessing they ran the numbers and figured out this is the best way until their reputation is into the ground and guys stop paying for lack of value. As opposed to weeding out all scammers and platonic and ending up with too few girls. Thereby just re-enforcing the scammers and platonic requests since they run free on the site.[/QUOTE]Absolutely. After 30 days of poor contacts and got one out of 100 I stopped paying. I now only use BLK or tinder and my % of meeting has actually improved. I tracked my progress for 3 weeks. Out of 76 reach outs on BLK I got 10 responses then out of those I got 5 digits. So far I've met one which was successful and I got another meeting planned when I get chance to get to Va beach area. It's free costs me nothing but time. Be safe.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;5455318]It's a weird business model for sure. The paying customer is the second rate citizen. The girls (the bait) is treated like a royalty. I get it, they need girls to generate customers but come on, does it have to be this bad for SDs? I'm guessing they ran the numbers and figured out this is the best way until their reputation is into the ground and guys stop paying for lack of value. As opposed to weeding out all scammers and platonic and ending up with too few girls. Thereby just re-enforcing the scammers and platonic requests since they run free on the site.[/QUOTE]The sad part is, even if someone circulated a petition to get guys to boycott the site until they straightened that shit out, you couldn't get enough participation to have any effect. The lure of the very possibility of pussy is too strong for some / most of the guys on there.

Move the conversation off SA as quickly as possible. It's safer to do your negotiating away from their prying eyes. And you don't lose your contact information when your membership expires.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5455353]Like most, I only get a month's membership in SA at a time, build up a lot of contacts, and try to follow up on them even after my membership expires. However, I find that even if I have had good interactions texting with a POT, it can be difficult when I no longer have a profile on the site (I take it down when I am not paid, to prevent a lot of fruitless messaging) to them to engage. Does anyone have any tricks to get this going?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5455420]The sad part is, even if someone circulated a petition to get guys to boycott the site until they straightened that shit out, you couldn't get enough participation to have any effect. The lure of the very possibility of pussy is too strong for some / most of the guys on there.[/QUOTE]I would sign that petition. I say we boycott on No Nut November. The only way any company will change is if you hit them in the wallet.

[QUOTE=ErnestLl;5426682]Bless you, my child. YOu are doing the Lord's work and should be sainted![/QUOTE]Amen to that! I am now inspired to continue the mission. Thank you Dogbert77.

[QUOTE=Hal1957;5456200]Move the conversation off SA as quickly as possible. It's safer to do your negotiating away from their prying eyes. And you don't lose your contact information when your membership expires.[/QUOTE]I have their phone #s to text, and screen grabs of their profiles in case they have taken them down. That's not the point. I text them to try to rekindle some action, I often get little uptake.

I may have misinterpreted your post. So many of these girls create profiles and then abandon them after when they don't land a whale the first few days. Are these girls who continue to be active on the web site? If she hasn't checked her account in the last 3 days, she isn't serious or she's taken.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5456652]I have their phone #s to text, and screen grabs of their profiles in case they have taken them down. That's not the point. I text them to try to rekindle some action, I often get little uptake.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;5456246]I would sign that petition. I say we boycott on No Nut November. The only way any company will change is if you hit them in the wallet.[/QUOTE]The problem is, there is no real competition to SA. Even with all the chaff, it is the only site with wheat. Almost all of us have tried other sugar sites, they don't have the quality or quantity of women we're looking for.