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100% agree.
[QUOTE=JSmithXnxx;6219346]I don't have a problem with sharing info regardless of whether it's in PM's or in a thread but its dependent on what kind of provider it is. I've openly shared info about SW and escorts with everyone because they're actively promoting themselves and need more publicity but the same can't be said for cuddlers and UTR because even a hint that they do more jeopardizes their livelihood, which explains why Krissie and Btoland were doing very well up until a week ago.
I've been here long enough to see that there's almost always a negative outcome whenever an UTR's info gets shared in the forums. Hell, I remember one of them quit shortly after her info got put out because she was getting threatening messages or something. Yes, they shouldn't be doing this type of work if they don't they're not fully prepared to handle every bad situation but most of these UTR's want to stay low-key and be low volume and never planned on getting their phones blown up. Now I'm not saying that we got to keep them to ourselves and I'm not discouraging people from sharing info but all I'm saying is use your discretion for the sake of the hobby. The scene in MN is already stale compared to other states and we just end up hurting ourselves by scaring all of the cuddlers away. I know they all talk to each other and I'm sure they're more apprehensive about giving out extras now.[/QUOTE]100% agree with how most UTR or cuddlers and even some massage girls. Many only want low volume. Also some say "your the only one I do this with". Might be a lie. But it might hold some truth. Like they might only do certain things with certain clients. IE: some might only get naked and massage / cuddle. Other they might give L1 service. Others might let some DYI. Some might go all in with certain clients or with all.
So the "free" publicity sometimes isn't a good thing. I know a massage provider I see. She stated that someone told some "lies" about what she does and then some new clients come in and expect everything right away and are aggressive about it. She told me she has a select few clients she does certain activities with and others she won't. Mostly because of hygiene and how the people act.
The thing is many forget that while this is a type of service we clients are looking for and a type of service they provide. BUT we are all human and need to approach it with respect to each other. This is getting lost on the world. Hell look at the service industry. Look how some waiter / waitresses are being treated by clients. Honestly. Look how rude everyone has become. Look how people expect / demand shit from those servers and treat them like shit. Just because their job is "serving" them.
Anyways I will get off the soap box on that issue. It is kindness goes along ways in all of world. Which since Covid and the bullshit political climate (all political parties) have ramped up being dicks to each other. IE: How can you be friends with (insert political party). They are all assholes. Get it.
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[QUOTE=Crsm27;6219399]100% agree with how most UTR or cuddlers and even some massage girls. Many only want low volume. Also some say "your the only one I do this with". Might be a lie. But it might hold some truth. Like they might only do certain things with certain clients. IE: some might only get naked and massage / cuddle. Other they might give L1 service. Others might let some DYI. Some might go all in with certain clients or with all.
So the "free" publicity sometimes isn't a good thing. I know a massage provider I see. She stated that someone told some "lies" about what she does and then some new clients come in and expect everything right away and are aggressive about it. She told me she has a select few clients she does certain activities with and others she won't. Mostly because of hygiene and how the people act.
The thing is many forget that while this is a type of service we clients are looking for and a type of service they provide. BUT we are all human and need to approach it with respect to each other. This is getting lost on the world. Hell look at the service industry. Look how some waiter / waitresses are being treated by clients. Honestly. Look how rude everyone has become. Look how people expect / demand shit from those servers and treat them like shit. Just because their job is "serving" them.
Anyways I will get off the soap box on that issue. It is kindness goes along ways in all of world. Which since Covid and the bullshit political climate (all political parties) have ramped up being dicks to each other. IE: How can you be friends with (insert political party). They are all assholes. Get it.[/QUOTE]All I can say is I had open access to a cuddler not mentioned here. She found out about the cuddler info share, and the level of service I receive has dropped. No more cip, no more dfk. She's more reserved and guarded in conversation. Yes they all talk. I have it confirmed that names were changed and Krissie deleted her account because of the attention. Apparently one cuddler had their family contacted because of this. No I'm not going to name anyone else.
Honestly though it shouldn't matter. They should be happy for the publicity. However hobbyists hear stuff other places and complain they don't receive the same service. They don't accept it's ALWAYS YMMV. I had an AMP provider I saw over 6 months in Seattle. It took that long for her to be comfortable bbing me. It was a long slow build up that started with no extras. I'm snipped and had recent clear tests. Some guy went in and demanded bb from her. He did this because I said she gave a good massage in the AMP thread and had posted about other providers in the Seattle BB thread. That genius decided I was talking about her in the BB thread. I was not. However the business had to threaten to call the police because the guy wouldn't leave. She had to leave that AMP that was a five minute walk from my house and go to another one. She was furious with me even though I didn't say anything about what we did. No more GFE AMP after that. Only covered FS.
What's my point? You really do have to be careful. Lurkers seem to flood people and it freaks them out. Also cuddle sites monitor messaging for giving out numbers. They want scheduling done through the site. There are all sorts of reasons why this shit happens. Yet in a perfect world the free publicity should be helpful. Yet here we are.
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[QUOTE=Jimmysixxx7;6219442]All I can say is I had open access to a cuddler not mentioned here. She found out about the cuddler info share, and the level of service I receive has dropped. No more cip, no more dfk. She's more reserved and guarded in conversation. Yes they all talk. I have it confirmed that names were changed and Krissie deleted her account because of the attention. Apparently one cuddler had their family contacted because of this. No I'm not going to name anyone else.
Honestly though it shouldn't matter. They should be happy for the publicity. However hobbyists hear stuff other places and complain they don't receive the same service. They don't accept it's ALWAYS YMMV. I had an AMP provider I saw over 6 months in Seattle. It took that long for her to be comfortable bbing me. It was a long slow build up that started with no extras. I'm snipped and had recent clear tests. Some guy went in and demanded bb from her. He did this because I said she gave a good massage in the AMP thread and had posted about other providers in the Seattle BB thread. That genius decided I was talking about her in the BB thread. I was not. However the business had to threaten to call the police because the guy wouldn't leave. She had to leave that AMP that was a five minute walk from my house and go to another one. She was furious with me even though I didn't say anything about what we did. No more GFE AMP after that. Only covered FS.
What's my point? You really do have to be careful. Lurkers seem to flood people and it freaks them out. Also cuddle sites monitor messaging for giving out numbers. They want scheduling done through the site. There are all sorts of reasons why this shit happens. Yet in a perfect world the free publicity should be helpful. Yet here we are.[/QUOTE]OK so it sounds like the providers get pissed when the mongers act irresponsibly with the info. I can't imagine leading off a convo with a provider with "some review said you do X" or "I want the service that X said they got. " As I said before I think the point of a review or a discussion about a provider is to indicate what's possible under optimal conditions, I. E. Mutual respect shown, good hygiene, personal vibe, etc. Even asking a provider what their "menu" is probably isn't a great way to introduce yourself.
Knowledge of the provider is a double edged sword. Need to make sure you don't hurt your own chances in the pursuit of a perfect encounter.
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[QUOTE=PenilePerson15;6219513]OK so it sounds like the providers get pissed when the mongers act irresponsibly with the info. I can't imagine leading off a convo with a provider with "some review said you do X" or "I want the service that X said they got. " As I said before I think the point of a review or a discussion about a provider is to indicate what's possible under optimal conditions, I. E. Mutual respect shown, good hygiene, personal vibe, etc. Even asking a provider what their "menu" is probably isn't a great way to introduce yourself.
Knowledge of the provider is a double edged sword. Need to make sure you don't hurt your own chances in the pursuit of a perfect encounter.[/QUOTE]Well said!
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Tiny Asian
Sorry this isn't about cuddlers or cuddler drama haha.
I saw Eileen this week, she's tiny 4'9" maybe, around 30 years-old. Definitely the shortest provider I've ever seen. Big bolt-on tiddies, cute face. Very limited English. She knows a few phrases, "I love you!" is one of them, so that might freak some guys out. She reminded me of the pornstar CJ Miles except with lighter skin. This is an agency in the south burbs, they change girls every week or so, so she won't be around for long. 934-200-8083.
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[QUOTE=Jimmysixxx7;6219442]All I can say is I had open access to a cuddler not mentioned here. She found out about the cuddler info share, and the level of service I receive has dropped. No more cip, no more dfk. She's more reserved and guarded in conversation. Yes they all talk. I have it confirmed that names were changed and Krissie deleted her account because of the attention. Apparently one cuddler had their family contacted because of this. No I'm not going to name anyone else.[/QUOTE]FTR: Krissie told me it was just time, and needed to focus on other things as well.
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Exactly.
[QUOTE=PenilePerson15;6219513]OK so it sounds like the providers get pissed when the mongers act irresponsibly with the info. I can't imagine leading off a convo with a provider with "some review said you do X" or "I want the service that X said they got. " As I said before I think the point of a review or a discussion about a provider is to indicate what's possible under optimal conditions, I. E. Mutual respect shown, good hygiene, personal vibe, etc. Even asking a provider what their "menu" is probably isn't a great way to introduce yourself.
Knowledge of the provider is a double edged sword. Need to make sure you don't hurt your own chances in the pursuit of a perfect encounter.[/QUOTE]Agreed with what you and jimmy both stated.
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Anyone TOFTT yet on Slim
Curious if any fellow monger has experience with Slim? Seems to pop up every once in awhile near where I travel through. Might have to toftt.
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[QUOTE=CaptainHonest;6220142]Curious if any fellow monger has experience with Slim? Seems to pop up every once in awhile near where I travel through. Might have to toftt.[/QUOTE]LOL, who's Slim?
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Slim
My fault. Must have forgotten to add the link.
Here's a link:
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/minnesota/minneapolis/100087705[/URL]
[QUOTE=LastsLonger;6220874]LOL, who's Slim?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=CaptainHonest;6221397]My fault. Must have forgotten to add the link.
Here's a link:
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/minnesota/minneapolis/100087705[/URL][/QUOTE]Nada here, let me know if ya go looks fun!
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I hope.
[QUOTE=LastsLonger;6221948]Nada here, let me know if ya go looks fun![/QUOTE]Her pussy is cleaner than her mirrors!
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Latina Escorts?
Does anyone know any Latina escorts who barley speak English in the Minneapolis / St. Paul area?
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[QUOTE=AdoroCulo;6219619]Sorry this isn't about cuddlers or cuddler drama haha.
I saw Eileen this week, she's tiny 4'9" maybe, around 30 years-old. Definitely the shortest provider I've ever seen. Big bolt-on tiddies, cute face. Very limited English. She knows a few phrases, "I love you!" is one of them, so that might freak some guys out. She reminded me of the pornstar CJ Miles except with lighter skin. This is an agency in the south burbs, they change girls every week or so, so she won't be around for long.[/QUOTE]I've been thinking of trying one of these agencies. What was the damage? Safe location?
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[QUOTE=KrangleVerse;6223871]I've been thinking of trying one of these agencies. What was the damage? Safe location?[/QUOTE]Very safe. They'll text you the rates, it's the standard agency rates. I go for hhr and negotiate w / provider if I want upgrades bc it's always cheaper than that VIP shit.
There is a very good chance that the girl I saw is somewhere else by now.