Philly Sugar

[QUOTE=UninhibitedFla;6505323]I didn't see a good thread to ask this so here goes. Speaking of Tinder, never used in the past but remembered hearing about it being a good way to meetup. So I bought a 3-month subscription earlier this year and was open to both traditional / monger dating options. In my experience it was an uber hunk of shit app. Got some messages from foreign women. One chick was local but batshit crazy. The rest for fucking for bucks but had zero communication skills to even setup a date. App was so useless that I deleted it from my phone before my subscription even expired.

Has anyone found Tinder to be useful either for traditional dates or mongering??[/QUOTE]Tinder is garbage. It might have been good ages ago when it first came out but now, as you found out, no one treats it seriously. Dating apps in general are like that. I want to say both guys and girls make concerted efforts and then eventually it tapers off but nah. It's 90-10 women who don't give a rats ass. I'll never use any of them except maybe Hinge but even then, I don't look good in photos and hate having my picture taken so I don't like to put a lot on there. Never get any attention when I do. At least from a scant few, I heard that some girls' friends found their current partners from seeking and WYP and such sites.

[QUOTE=UninhibitedFla;6505323]I didn't see a good thread to ask this so here goes. Speaking of Tinder, never used in the past but remembered hearing about it being a good way to meetup. So I bought a 3-month subscription earlier this year and was open to both traditional / monger dating options. In my experience it was an uber hunk of shit app. Got some messages from foreign women. One chick was local but batshit crazy. The rest for fucking for bucks but had zero communication skills to even setup a date. App was so useless that I deleted it from my phone before my subscription even expired.

Has anyone found Tinder to be useful either for traditional dates or mongering??[/QUOTE]I actually ended up going back to tinder since I quit seeking for good about 1-2 months ago. Figured that seeking has become a waste of time for me objectively speaking and the amount of effort I'd be putting in to get laid here and there at a reasonable PPM wasn't worth it anymore.

Tinder works but it's a grind just like seeking is. Thing with tinder though is you're not actively sending messages. More like you're just waiting and seeing which girls bite. On average I'm getting 1-2 matches per day, usually 1 match per day. So it's not completely dead, just slow.

And for tinder it depends what age you are and what you're looking for. If you're younger and your priority is to get laid, my best suggestion is to get in shape asap. Meaning get visible 6 pack abs, looksmax your face, etc. Then make your first pic a shirtless selfie where your abs are showing. Next you want your bio to be sexually tongue in cheek. Basically you want to come off as the fuck boy type that has 6 pack abs, a decent face, good hygiene, socially aware but also horny and looking to have a good time in the bedroom. This type of approach has worked for me in the past and it still works to a degree. I think I've banged at least 5-6 girls from tinder the limited amount of times I've done this. Each time was very easy once I found the right girl. I don't even think I set up proper dates for most of them. I just had some basic conversation through text and then shortly after we got to talking about whether I'd be coming over to her or she'd be coming to me to hook up.

I tried using hinge and tinder for finding a long term partner / romantic dating but I found that approach doesn't work as well. A lot of girls in their 20's are not ready to seriously get into a relationship with a guy from online. So you spend a lot of time grinding with little to show for it. It's actually easier to go sexual and hook up-why from the start because all it takes is finding a chick that's down to have fun, and you could be smashing her soon. Whereas a relationship actually takes serious commitment, dates, planning, and most of these girls just aren't trying to get down with that, unless you're very attractive.

[QUOTE=KCesar68;6504832]Bull-fing-shlt man. All these women are in it for the money else they'd not be on here and instead on tinder / dating apps. Not one single one of them are going to say "you don't have to give me anything for the next time" without becoming your GF. And there's plenty of guys on here with wives so you obviously aren't going to want that.[/QUOTE]I've definitely had freebee fucks from some of the girls I've sugared with. But I also do little things for my SBs like send / buy them lunch when we're not together. Send little gifts here and there just because. Nothing that would guilt them or make them feel they needed to fuck to keep it going. Just saying- miracles happen LOL.

I respectfully disagree. I have 2 long term SB's one for almost 4 years and one approaching 3 yrs. Both of them have waived their financial assistance on multiple occasions. The 4 yr sb is getting 4 and the 3 yr sb is getting 2. Usually the money is waived around holidays, my bday or around an event. I took my 4 yr sb to my house in the Caribbean gave her 1500 for the week but obviously paid for all meals and excursions so did I pay more yes technically but I got a lot more as well. I believe it depends on rapport and chemistry. I would say these are in the minority of SB's but not all SB's are gps gold diggers.

Be Safe.

[QUOTE=KCesar68;6504832]Bull-fing-shlt man. All these women are in it for the money else they'd not be on here and instead on tinder / dating apps. Not one single one of them are going to say "you don't have to give me anything for the next time" without becoming your GF. And there's plenty of guys on here with wives so you obviously aren't going to want that.[/QUOTE]

Just a reminder that Goddessares is a rinser and expects to be paid the "first few dates" to be taken to dinner or whatever. Hard pass.

Scammer. Won't actually meet, just trying to sell content and video chats. When I told her I'd be happy to help her out in person she blocked me lol.

She just changed her location from Newark, DE to Philadelphia today.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/5928e455-4c7e-487f-b16e-c795d5241db9[/URL]

Fake pictures from an insta model.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/021e7ccc-c278-4a1c-8539-cc26bcbfc3a4[/URL]

I'm with Burbs M. If I put in the work (which definitely can be a lot! I can usually find a win. Win deal on seeking. One of my best was a 2 yr thing with a 30 yr local mom. That was a regular thing at 200 per. That ended about a year ago since she ended up getting back with her husband. Oh well LOL. Recently I've been in the 300 range sometimes providing Uber to and from. I have also had some success with Tinder. It's few and far between, but some of the college girls really appreciate the assistance.

Claire, who's link is listed below is in the city Overbrook section. She sent me a pic and she's a little thicker than I like so it was a pass. She says she only wants 150. That actually sounds a little too low and made me a bit suspicious.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/375bc150-e0b3-4712-ad9f-c0d0cf7c636d[/URL]

Dani - Bordentown
Sounds like a pro, wanted 500. That was a pass!

https://members.seeking.com/member/a2fd9845-755b-4233-b216-e1c452d4766f

Happy hunting!

[QUOTE=BurbsMonger;6507263]I respectfully disagree. I have 2 long term SB's one for almost 4 years and one approaching 3 yrs. Both of them have waived their financial assistance on multiple occasions. The 4 yr sb is getting 4 and the 3 yr sb is getting 2. Usually the money is waived around holidays, my bday or around an event. I took my 4 yr sb to my house in the Caribbean gave her 1500 for the week but obviously paid for all meals and excursions so did I pay more yes technically but I got a lot more as well. I believe it depends on rapport and chemistry. I would say these are in the minority of SB's but not all SB's are gps gold diggers.

Be Safe.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Runner8;6508883]Claire, who's link is listed below is in the city Overbrook section. She sent me a pic and she's a little thicker than I like so it was a pass. She says she only wants 150. That actually sounds a little too low and made me a bit suspicious.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/375bc150-e0b3-4712-ad9f-c0d0cf7c636d[/URL]

[/QUOTE]Link isn't working. Says it can't find that profile.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3ca2ed65-edd8-403d-8bbe-09a2e93f2d0f[/URL]

She's real, but she's also.

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/cecilia-renae[/URL]

Huge weather balloon boobs but the pictures on the seeking profile are a little older since she's def a bit chubbier.

Here's the problem, she wants 5 $$ for JUST a FBSM. Honestly I'm a boob guy so I did partake like 4 months ago. She basically shows up when she wants to show up so expect her to be late. She offers FS for over 1 k. Girl's nuts. Not even escorts 5 years younger than her charge that much. It was definitely an enjoyable massage and she's not a clock watcher at all, but that's Way too much. The worst part is the second time I met up with her she said she was really horny and hadn't gotten any in a long time, but of course she didn't want to just do it, she expected me to pay her ridiculous price. I let her know I couldn't and the FBSM was fine. Stopped getting in touch with her after that.

[QUOTE=KCesar68;6504832]Bull-fing-shlt man. All these women are in it for the money else they'd not be on here and instead on tinder / dating apps. Not one single one of them are going to say "you don't have to give me anything for the next time" without becoming your GF. And there's plenty of guys on here with wives so you obviously aren't going to want that.[/QUOTE]Of course may women get into this for the opportunity to make a little money. The pro do it only for the money. The pro watched the clock is out the door as quickly as possible. Then non pro hangs out, doesn't act like she has somewhere to be. She may even throw you a freebie as has been mentioned. If sex isn't involved I know many who don't mind giving up their time for the price of dinner. (Which sometimes seems weird, but I think they just do want to start a trend) I even had an old one come back from the city she is currently living in and try to buy me dinner! Some of these are relationships of a different type. No pro has ever offered me a second free, let alone to buy me dinner!

[QUOTE=KCesar68;6509384]Link isn't working. Says it can't find that profile.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/3ca2ed65-edd8-403d-8bbe-09a2e93f2d0f[/URL]

She's real, but she's also.

[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/cecilia-renae[/URL]

Huge weather balloon boobs but the pictures on the seeking profile are a little older since she's def a bit chubbier.

Here's the problem, she wants 5 $$ for JUST a FBSM. Honestly I'm a boob guy so I did partake like 4 months ago. She basically shows up when she wants to show up so expect her to be late. She offers FS for over 1 k. Girl's nuts. Not even escorts 5 years younger than her charge that much. It was definitely an enjoyable massage and she's not a clock watcher at all, but that's Way too much. The worst part is the second time I met up with her she said she was really horny and hadn't gotten any in a long time, but of course she didn't want to just do it, she expected me to pay her ridiculous price. I let her know I couldn't and the FBSM was fine. Stopped getting in touch with her after that.[/QUOTE]She charges 500 USD for a massage because she knows that there are guys like you out there that will pay that much for a massage. And believe me, there are plenty of those guys out there.

Guys really are their own worst enemy. When sex is dangled in front of them, they will do the stupidest things. There will always be a market for that.

For the intelligent men out there, my first suggestion is that before you decide to pay for a massage, do yourself a favor and look at the competitive and local rates for that service. I don't think you will be surprised when you find out it costs no where near 500 USD.

[QUOTE=UsaBlinkGuy11;6510008]She charges 500 USD for a massage because she knows that there are guys like you out there that will pay that much for a massage. And believe me, there are plenty of those guys out there.

Guys really are their own worst enemy. When sex is dangled in front of them, they will do the stupidest things. There will always be a market for that.

For the intelligent men out there, my first suggestion is that before you decide to pay for a massage, do yourself a favor and look at the competitive and local rates for that service. I don't think you will be surprised when you find out it costs no where near 500 USD.[/QUOTE]It's not up to anyone to keep prices lower for you. I lost a horny, CIP loving, 18 year old with the tightest cooch ever to some guy willing to give her 1 kppm. I can't do anything about that. We're competing with Wealthy guys. That's just how it is. I was way into working together on this thread and giving detailed intelligence on ladies and some guy told a girl I was still hoping to see and she blocked me LOL. Lesson learned- guys on here will stab each other in the back to gain favor, I only warn about rip-offs or give vague details about fun SBs I'm done. If you want to pay 1. 5 $ then there are plenty of fentanyl addicts on Skip waiting for you. All that being said if anyone wants to trade hit me up. I won't share a girl's number (full stop) or just give guys that can't spring for a SA membership info. I'm down to trade info on hot younger girls 18-27 who are in good shape, not even small bbw, and not pros.

[QUOTE=UsaBlinkGuy11;6510008]She charges 500 USD for a massage because she knows that there are guys like you out there that will pay that much for a massage. And believe me, there are plenty of those guys out there.

Guys really are their own worst enemy. When sex is dangled in front of them, they will do the stupidest things. There will always be a market for that.

For the intelligent men out there, my first suggestion is that before you decide to pay for a massage, do yourself a favor and look at the competitive and local rates for that service. I don't think you will be surprised when you find out it costs no where near 500 USD.[/QUOTE]Nope. The massage was purely pretext to 1. See her naked 2. Find out what else she offered or if it wasn't JUST a massage and 3. Make first contact with her in case I wanted to partake any other services. Of course other massages are no where near 500, after the second time where she wasn't going to give any extras, I stopped getting in touch cause AMP's are for cheaper and you actually get FS. In all fairness, she does hang out with you for a decent amount of time and was pleasant and it's FBSM so you do get off. But she definitely thinks a bit too highly of herself.

I think someone mentioned beach sugar babies and having just returned from the shore, I'm wonder how well that worked. Any luck with all those foreign girls working summer s at the beach? Seems like a target rich environment!

A fucking men, so true. That is exactly why I don't broadcast intel anymore. Been screwed over by white knights, men too cheap to pay pre-negotiated rates with a young lady, and dicks outbidding the sensible market rate. I certainly comment here and there and only share ladies with a select few who share as well. It's a shame this is how it is now but it is the few who ruin it for all.

Be safe.

[QUOTE=EpicSD;6510346]It's not up to anyone to keep prices lower for you. I lost a horny, CIP loving, 18 year old with the tightest cooch ever to some guy willing to give her 1 kppm. I can't do anything about that. We're competing with Wealthy guys. That's just how it is. I was way into working together on this thread and giving detailed intelligence on ladies and some guy told a girl I was still hoping to see and she blocked me LOL. Lesson learned- guys on here will stab each other in the back to gain favor, I only warn about rip-offs or give vague details about fun SBs I'm done. If you want to pay 1. 5 $ then there are plenty of fentanyl addicts on Skip waiting for you. All that being said if anyone wants to trade hit me up. I won't share a girl's number (full stop) or just give guys that can't spring for a SA membership info. I'm down to trade info on hot younger girls 18-27 who are in good shape, not even small bbw, and not pros.[/QUOTE]