Rants and Raves

[QUOTE=SkyHighBuilder;5330861]This whole thing is about Power and Control. The WHO was a floundering, corrupt, almost nothing organization until Covid19. And the "Global death toll" is a farce. There are 2 words that you never here in this discussion, "Of" and "With"! I will grant you that hundreds of thousands of people have died "WITH" Covid19 but I guarantee you that that number is a minor percent when you say that they died "OF" Covid19.

It is a Fact that healthcare providers get more money for documenting Covid19 deaths. The other side is the control over populations that the virus gives the power hungry. Fear is another limiting factor that causes self imposed limits on group gatherings and there for less personal interaction and face to face information exchanges.

Our entire election system was thrown for a loop because of it and it continues to effect our lives now. The homeless population here is going to rise, there are already more people living in motels and with someone else who had their own stuff last year. People have lost their businesses and livelihoods through this "Pandemic".

Why are states like Texas and Florida with their "Open Society" approaches seeing less cases and states like Michigan with their "Closed Society" reporting more?

I believe it has much more to do with Money, Power and Control than most are willing to say. But I know a lot are thinking it by now (Even if you didn't in the beginning).

Here it is from the CDC (right now at 5:45 am 5/2/21) by the numbers:

Right now on the CDC website the numbers as reported from 1/4/20 - 4/25/21 are that 621,730 deaths have occurred overall (these are NOT Covid19 but the total number of deaths in the US over that period). They also state that the total number of Death Certificates reporting Covid19 as the cause of death is 557,486. Follow the numbers below and they just don't add up.

Of those, the following Comorbidities are listed; 45.9% (254,384) had Influenza & Pneumonia, 19.8% (109,768) Hypertension, 16% (88,925) Diabetes, 13.5% (75,194) Alzheimer and other Dementia & 9. 5%. (52,986) Sepsis. If you remove the Alzheimer / Dementia category (may not be an actual health issue but more mental, you get 506,063 total deaths and subtract the total from above and you end up with 115,667 deaths that COULD be the total deaths OF Covid19 over 16 months in the US. If you divide the number by 16 you end up with 7,229 monthly deaths and that my friends is nothing more than the normal INFLUENZA deaths we get annually in the United States..[/QUOTE]Or like a walk-off home run. A nails it, end of discussion post. Of course idiots like The Rabbit and a few other Biden-impaired fools on this thread will have none of it since it threatens their precious little narratives and fragile, carefully constructed psyches. Common sense to them is like a crucifix to Dracula. They recoil and slither back into the darkness of ignorance from whence they came. Unfortunately they are compelled to drench us with their ignorance so expect furious howls of rebuttals from them very soon.

[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5331121]Or like a walk-off home run. A nails it, end of discussion post. Of course idiots like The Rabbit and a few other Biden-impaired fools on this thread will have none of it since it threatens their precious little narratives and fragile, carefully constructed psyches. Common sense to them is like a crucifix to Dracula. They recoil and slither back into the darkness of ignorance from whence they came. Unfortunately they are compelled to drench us with their ignorance so expect furious howls of rebuttals from them very soon.[/QUOTE]Oh I don't think so, I currently busy right now to give a response but rest assured I have a few words to say of that idiotic statement.

[QUOTE=SkyHighBuilder;5330861]This whole thing is about Power and Control. The WHO was a floundering, corrupt, almost nothing organization until Covid19. And the "Global death toll" is a farce. There are 2 words that you never here in this discussion, "Of" and "With"! I will grant you that hundreds of thousands of people have died "WITH" Covid19 but I guarantee you that that number is a minor percent when you say that they died "OF" Covid19.

It is a Fact that healthcare providers get more money for documenting Covid19 deaths. The other side is the control over populations that the virus gives the power hungry. Fear is another limiting factor that causes self imposed limits on group gatherings and there for less personal interaction and face to face information exchanges.

Our entire election system was thrown for a loop because of it and it continues to effect our lives now. The homeless population here is going to rise, there are already more people living in motels and with someone else who had their own stuff last year. People have lost their businesses and livelihoods through this "Pandemic".

Why are states like Texas and Florida with their "Open Society" approaches seeing less cases and states like Michigan with their "Closed Society" reporting more?

I believe it has much more to do with Money, Power and Control than most are willing to say. But I know a lot are thinking it by now (Even if you didn't in the beginning).

Here it is from the CDC (right now at 5:45 am 5/2/21) by the numbers:

Right now on the CDC website the numbers as reported from 1/4/20 - 4/25/21 are that 621,730 deaths have occurred overall (these are NOT Covid19 but the total number of deaths in the US over that period). They also state that the total number of Death Certificates reporting Covid19 as the cause of death is 557,486. Follow the numbers below and they just don't add up.

Of those, the following Comorbidities are listed; 45.9% (254,384) had Influenza & Pneumonia, 19.8% (109,768) Hypertension, 16% (88,925) Diabetes, 13.5% (75,194) Alzheimer and other Dementia & 9. 5%. (52,986) Sepsis. If you remove the Alzheimer / Dementia category (may not be an actual health issue but more mental, you get 506,063 total deaths and subtract the total from above and you end up with 115,667 deaths that COULD be the total deaths OF Covid19 over 16 months in the US. If you divide the number by 16 you end up with 7,229 monthly deaths and that my friends is nothing more than the normal INFLUENZA deaths we get annually in the United States.

To break it down even further: 80.2% are over 65,17. 2% are between 45 - 64 and only 2. 6% of the total deaths reported are under 45. When you get down to the younger groups it drops dramatically. SO WHY all the fuss over numbers like these? You tell me!

Just sayin' .[/QUOTE]WHO has nothing to do with the CDC data I mentioned for 2020 a few posts ago.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778234

You do not include the link for the CDC website page where you claim to get your figures from but 621,730 deaths for the 477 day period is contradicted by the data I posted where close to 2. 7-2. 9 million Americans die every 365 days.

However its also just blatantly implausible from an actuarial standpoint. There are 331 million Americans. If the age pyramid was a perfect column you'd expect 1/79 Americans to die every year, equal to the life expectancy. Since it isn't a column and there are more young than old, it was about 1/114 in 2019 and even Covid-19 could only push it down to 1/99. His purported figure implies 475747 dead a year, which implies 1/696 Americans die each year. That's just mathematically impossible unless the vast majority of Americans are youth (not true) or they live to be over half a millennium old (not true).

Finally even if you were willing to accept "they were sickly elderly on their way out, who cares if we let them out a little early and more painfully" the death toll belies the true impact of Covid-19. The long-term effects of Covid-19 are unknown for obvious reasons, but given hospitalization rates I wouldn't be surprised if it was in the millions. Millions of Americans will likely suffer permanent negative effects from Covid-19, millions more will be affected by their relations to those permanently debilitated or dead. All for a disease that could've been stopped or at least minimized by competent effort as numerous countries around the world have proven able to do.

Then you have the economic damage. Trump's too little too late approach to lockdowns, far from saving the American economy, instead ensured that it would stay closed longer. The more people were getting sick, the more people chose to stay home, no matter how "open" Trump insisted on things officially being. If the administration had instead just accepted that things would be bad for a bit and had an early and overwhelming lockdown, it would've saved months of scared-consumer-enforced quasi-lockdowns. Once again there are dozens of countries around the world that were able to safely reboot their economy sooner. Trillions in avoidable damages, which in a capitalist scarcity society equals even more dead.

I might add that the biggest enabler of the WHO was Donald Trump. Before him, the WHO kinda followed the CDC's lead, because they're the well funded health apparatus of the global superpower. Trump's "have the federal government do nothing and let God sort them out" approach to pandemic management meant that the WHO was forced to take the lead where they otherwise would not have, just as the states were forced to get their own tests and vaccinations and everything without assistance or facing outright sabotage.

Also some death counts relative to prior years for American locations
https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/04/28/us/coronavirus-death-toll-total-promo-1588123095036/coronavirus-death-toll-total-promo-1588123095036-superJumbo-v3.jpg

Or an example in Italy too:
https://voxeu.org/sites/default/files/image/FromMay2014/ciminelli22aprilfig1.png

Or elsewhere:
https://www.ft.com/__origami/service/image/v2/images/raw/https%3A%2F%2Fd6c748xw2pzm8.cloudfront.net%2Fprod%2F4dee8c60-9702-11eb-9838-33ecf8170d91-fullwidth.png?dpr=1&fit=scale-down&quality=highest&source=next&width=1260

Chart after chart after chart shows the same story, of daily deaths from all-causes in countries suddenly spiking dramatically from historic norms without explanation, at exactly the periods Covid-19 waves were hitting those nations, with the only exceptions being nations that successfully largely managed Covid-19 like South Korea, Norway, or Germany. Unless you decide to just regard all death data from any country anywhere, data that comes from tons of different sources around the world to be garbage you need to have an explanation as to why daily deaths were dramatically higher in nations around the world at exactly the points Covid-19 was most feverish but somehow be unrelated to Covid-19 entirely.

[QUOTE=TheRabbit;5331492]Oh I don't think so, I currently busy right now to give a response but rest assured I have a few words to say of that idiotic statement.[/QUOTE]As you always do, chasing down common sense with your own particular brand of stupidity. And it's always Trump's fault too. When he shut down travel to and from China, Mighty Joe called him a racist while Pelosi-Witch partied in the streets. Just some more inconvenient truths that you always somehow manage to ignore to keep the fires of your pathetic agenda going.

Not going to argue politics, no one is going to change their mind from anything posted in a fucking sex forum. However, this is when it really "hit" me that COVID wasn't overblown: I have 2 funeral homes as clients. One is a "larger" organization with parlors in multiple counties. The other is a solo in a medium sized city.

They both had the "best" year ever in their respective businesses in 2020. And not by a little bit. Let me put it this way: if you told me I could invest in a business now with the revenue growth these 2 businesses had in 12 months, I'd write that check in a second.

Believe what you want, but capitalism and the market will always tell.

[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5331762]As you always do, chasing down common sense with your own particular brand of stupidity. And it's always Trump's fault too. When he shut down travel to and from China, Mighty Joe called him a racist while Pelosi-Witch partied in the streets. Just some more inconvenient truths that you always somehow manage to ignore to keep the fires of your pathetic agenda going.[/QUOTE]Biden did not call Trump a racist, this what he actually said:

"We are in the midst of a crisis with the coronavirus. We need to lead the way with science — not Donald Trump's record of hysteria, xenophobia, and fear-mongering. He is the worst possible person to lead our country through a global health emergency. ".

But Biden did not explicitly tie xenophobia to the travel restriction. His tweet reflects coronavirus remarks he made during a campaign stop in Iowa Jan. 31, the day the travel restrictions were announced.

He criticizing Trump poor handling of COVID-19 which Biden turn out to be completely about.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;5332051]Not going to argue politics, no one is going to change their mind from anything posted in a fucking sex forum. However, this is when it really "hit" me that COVID wasn't overblown: I have 2 funeral homes as clients. One is a "larger" organization with parlors in multiple counties. The other is a solo in a medium sized city.

They both had the "best" year ever in their respective businesses in 2020. And not by a little bit. Let me put it this way: if you told me I could invest in a business now with the revenue growth these 2 businesses had in 12 months, I'd write that check in a second.

Believe what you want, but capitalism and the market will always tell.[/QUOTE]I have money invested in funerals and related items such as Caskets and I lost 10% in 2020 on that part of my portfolio so I don't know where you get your information from but it wasn't a great year for that business at all.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5332338]I have money invested in funerals and related items such as Caskets and I lost 10% in 2020 on that part of my portfolio so I don't know where you get your information from but it wasn't a great year for that business at all.[/QUOTE]This only proves you suck at investment in this area, just because you didn't make a profit doesn't mean everyone else didn't.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5332338]I have money invested in funerals and related items such as Caskets and I lost 10% in 2020 on that part of my portfolio so I don't know where you get your information from but it wasn't a great year for that business at all.[/QUOTE]Between an increase in preference for cremation services and the price of wood skyrocketing in 2020, losing 10% tracks.

[QUOTE=GoneForGood97;5332666]Between an increase in preference for cremation services and the price of wood skyrocketing in 2020, losing 10% tracks.[/QUOTE]So funeral homes have large lumber expenses every year huh?

So funeral homes offer cremation services at an operating loss huh?

JeebusChristaMighty.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5332338]I have money invested in funerals and related items such as Caskets and I lost 10% in 2020 on that part of my portfolio so I don't know where you get your information from but it wasn't a great year for that business at all.[/QUOTE]Never would have thought that investing in caskets and funerals would be a smart thing to do.

[QUOTE=TheRabbit;5332655]This only proves you suck at investment in this area, just because you didn't make a profit doesn't mean everyone else didn't.[/QUOTE]Just because you can type doesn't mean you have any common sense or knowledge about being anything other than a forum troll. But hey you are good at it.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;5333130]Never would have thought that investing in caskets and funerals would be a smart thing to do.[/QUOTE]It's a necessary evil, like grocery stores, people need to eat so they buy food, because this society isn't going to grow or raise their own. Well funerals homes require caskets, you'd think you could just be put in a wooden pine box, but the law says you can't, so caskets sell. And contrary to liberal belief millions of people did not die from covid last year. Most of the people who died were already dying of cancer or had severe health issues. 6 months into the pandemic the cdc reported only 9700 people died from cornavirus alone, so not many compared to say the flu. Most of the people who died were already on their way out and covid took them at best a "little early". I know libtards will be running around crying to their daddy's that touched them inappropriately when they were young after reading this but its the facts. There was actually a declinein coffin sales in 2020 compared to 2019.

[QUOTE=SirDiscreet;5333039]So funeral homes have large lumber expenses every year huh?

So funeral homes offer cremation services at an operating loss huh?

JeebusChristaMighty.[/QUOTE]No idea what funeral homes lumber expenses are, nor do I care. I'm simply taking him at his word that he lost 10% and tried to rationalize it. I don't know how an investor takes a "10% loss in funerals and related items such as Caskets" when the average stock price of the top 4 funeral stocks went up an average of 173% in the past 12 months. (Service Corporation International, StoneMor Partners, Carriage Services, Park Lawn Corporation). Maybe he bet against it. Maybe he bought in during an earlier spike and sold at a loss when the market crashed this time last year.

I also don't follow the logic of someone investing in funeral services when they believe COVID to be an exaggerated phenomena. Hell, if anything, that person should bet against funeral stocks, and if COVID was overblown, made a small fortune when the stocks burst due to being overinflated from a "fake" pandemic. Instead, he claims to have invested in a market that by his own logic should crash (and therefore bet against his own beliefs and logic) and somehow lost money while that market was enjoying 3 digit gains. It's a weird paradox.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5333519]And contrary to belief millions of people did not die from covid last year. [/QUOTE]Yes they did we have the numbers proving so.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5333519]Most of the people who died were already dying of cancer or had severe health issues.[/QUOTE]Yeah that's in part why we are having these lockdowns to protect the vulnerable from this virus such as the elderly and other reason is there are life long health of getting COVID-19 regardless of age.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5333519]Most of the people who died were already on their way out.[/QUOTE]You have no proof of this.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5333519]covid took them at best a "little early".[/QUOTE]Again no proof and you seem to be ignoring the basic fact these people would still be alive if they did not catch COVID-19.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5333519]There was actually a declining coffin sales in 2020 compared to 2019.[/QUOTE]
There's actually a good reason for this coffins are expensive and are made for show at funerals which most people couldn't have due to the lockdowns.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2020/04/21/how-the-pandemic-is-killing-the-death-business/?sh=1407717a6c64

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5333149]Just because you can type doesn't mean you have any common sense or knowledge about being anything other than a forum troll. But hey you are good at it.[/QUOTE]He's also way smarter than all of us and better looking too. He is everything! He is Superman! All hail The Rabbit!

It's useless, Sky. He's got an answer for everything, even if he's full of shit and he knows it. Fuck him.

[QUOTE=TheRabbit;5333933]Yes they did we have the numbers proving so.

Yeah that's in part why we are having these lockdowns to protect the vulnerable from this virus such as the elderly and other reason is there are life long health of getting COVID-19 regardless of age.

You have no proof of this.

Again no proof and you seem to be ignoring the basic fact these people would still be alive if they did not catch COVID-19.


There's actually a good reason for this coffins are expensive and are made for show at funerals which most people couldn't have due to the lockdowns.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2020/04/21/how-the-pandemic-is-killing-the-death-business/?sh=1407717a6c64[/QUOTE]The CDC said so, do you not consider them a factual source? Or your brain can't wrap itself around the truth? Or you are just being a troll who likes to argue? I'm think the lase one, the cdc said after 6 months in that only 9700 people died from covid, all the rest had conditions that were already killing them. You see I actually care about the truth and the future of our country, you only care about trolling this thread, basically almost all of your posts are in this thread, you honestly don't contribute anything. Would you argue the earth was flat just so you could troll that too? I imagine you would.

People with stage 4 cancer who had days to live caught covid before dying and leftwing libtards were screaming "they died of covid!

It's a shame how people like yourself are making "idiocracy" a reality.

Hospitals as part of the rescue plan got money for every death certificate that listed cause of death as covid. Hospitals are businesses, even the CDC director acknowledged that hospitals "had a monetary incentive to overcount covid deaths".

Less people died of covid (by itself) than the flu, the cdc stated 42000 people died of covid (without already being on their deathbeds) while 47000 died of the flu. I already know you will argue that cancer patients and those who had only days to live should be counted as covid deaths but covid isn't what killed them. Your mentality is that if someone with covid gets hit by a car and dies covid is the cause of death, smh.

[URL]https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cdc-director-acknowledges-hospitals-have-a-monetary-incentive-to-overcount-coronavirus-deaths[/URL]

If you're one of those assholes whose been trying to actually defend the pompous orange turd who LOST the election FAIR and SQUARE, or who has contributed to the perpetuation of the lies and conspiracy theories about COVID that have led to the death of well over half a million people (of which over half would still be alive if not for the ineptitude coming from the White House. Then don't ask me for information OR expect to be invited to any of my events. You've shown your asses right here for all to see. I always tell ladies that I'll only connect them with guys I can vouch for. I refuse to vouch for brain dead idiots.

[QUOTE=RenMan;5334278]If you're one of those assholes whose been trying to actually defend the pompous orange turd who LOST the election FAIR and SQUARE, or who has contributed to the perpetuation of the lies and conspiracy theories about COVID that have led to the death of well over half a million people (of which over half would still be alive if not for the ineptitude coming from the White House. Then don't ask me for information OR expect to be invited to any of my events. You've shown your asses right here for all to see. I always tell ladies that I'll only connect them with guys I can vouch for. I refuse to vouch for brain dead idiots.[/QUOTE]Let's see what the AZ election audit shows. There are credible reports from thousands of witnesses of voter fraud. If you are right, what are you afraid of?

[QUOTE=HobbyMan51;5333938]
It's useless, Sky. He's got an answer for everything, Fuck him.[/QUOTE]That's because I include facts of what I am talking about, you don't and you're just angry about that.

[QUOTE=TheRabbit;5333933]Yes they did we have the numbers proving so.

Yeah that's in part why we are having these lockdowns to protect the vulnerable from this virus such as the elderly and other reason is there are life long health of getting COVID-19 regardless of age.

You have no proof of this.

Again no proof and you seem to be ignoring the basic fact these people would still be alive if they did not catch COVID-19.


There's actually a good reason for this coffins are expensive and are made for show at funerals which most people couldn't have due to the lockdowns.[/QUOTE]Here is a link showing the lockdowns and masks did nothing. Want additional proof? Why are infections and deaths higher in lockdown NJ and NY then open Georgia and Florida?

[URL]https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/stanford-study-lockdowns-have-no-significant-effect-in-reducing-covid-19-may-even-spread-it[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheRabbit;5334292]That's because I include facts of what I am talking about, you don't and you're just angry about that.[/QUOTE]No you don't include facts, you include op-eds and biased articles written by far left opinionists. Facts come from say the CDC, or other government agencys that have said the covid numbers are severely overblown, you take articles from places like the NY TImes and CNN which are supported financially by China and print communist and socialist propaganda accordingly, that wabbit is not facts.

Like other left wing radicals you decide that you want it to be so, so you will choose to believe is so. Then leftwing radical Chinese controlled media players will print the garbage and "if they report it's true it must be true right?

You'll notice every major claim that cnn, nytimes, msnbc and others make somehow end up "redacted" but masses never see the redaction because it's hidden in tiny print. Every day I meet more and more people that tell me had they known how bias the leftwing media was and how badly they were lied to they never would have voted for Biden.

Enjoy the time democrats control the big house because the same people that put dems in power are ready to put them back out only 7 months after the election.

[QUOTE=Whiteknightat;5334291]Let's see what the AZ election audit shows. There are credible reports from thousands of witnesses of voter fraud. If you are right, what are you afraid of?[/QUOTE]Yawn*.

Stop trying to make Fetch happen. It's not going to happen. The numbskulls carrying out the Arizona audit, in secret and on behalf of king trumpollinni call themselves the "Cyber Ninjas" -- they sound really, really, reputable. LOL.

[QUOTE=Whiteknightat;5334337]Here is a link showing the lockdowns and masks did nothing. Want additional proof? Why are infections and deaths higher in lockdown NJ and NY then open Georgia and Florida?

[URL]https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/stanford-study-lockdowns-have-no-significant-effect-in-reducing-covid-19-may-even-spread-it[/URL][/QUOTE]

[I]”No evidence of lockdown efficacy in any country.”[/I] Seriously WTF are these guys smoking? Are any of these clueless idiots clued in to whats happening in India and Brazil right now?

[I]”India has now descended into a tragedy of unprecedented proportions, with their health care system completely overwhelmed and teetering on total collapse with COVID cases. Almost 1.6 million cases have been registered in a week, bringing total cases to more than 15 million. In the space of just 12 days, the Covid positivity rate doubled to 17%, while in Delhi it hit 30%. Hospitals across the country have filled to capacity but this time it is predominately the young taking up the beds; in Delhi, 65% of cases are under 40 years old.”[/I]

[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/news/2021/04/27/mass-funeral-pyres-reflect-indias-covid-crisis/7396293002/[/URL]

FYI, COVID is not fake, just ask the families of COVID victims in the U.S. India, Brazil, Italy etc. This pandemic is an international crisis - the longer the virus circulates, the longer and possibly more dangerous the pandemic becomes. A little more than 1 in 6 people on EARTH live in India. This is a huge disaster for India in particular and the planet generally because the virus is currently being given free reign to mutate. What we see happening in India is a global catastrophe happening in real time.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5334188]The CDC said so, do you not consider them a factual source? Or your brain can't wrap itself around the truth? Or you are just being a troll who likes to argue? I'm think the lase one, the cdc said after 6 months in that only 9700 people died from covid, all the rest had conditions that were already killing them. You see I actually care about the truth and the future of our country, you only care about trolling this thread, basically almost all of your posts are in this thread, you honestly don't contribute anything. Would you argue the earth was flat just so you could troll that too? I imagine you would.

People with stage 4 cancer who had days to live caught covid before dying and leftwing libtards were screaming "they died of covid!

It's a shame how people like yourself are making "idiocracy" a reality.

Hospitals as part of the rescue plan got money for every death certificate that listed cause of death as covid. Hospitals are businesses, even the CDC director acknowledged that hospitals "had a monetary incentive to overcount covid deaths".

Less people died of covid (by itself) than the flu, the cdc stated 42000 people died of covid (without already being on their deathbeds) while 47000 died of the flu. I already know you will argue that cancer patients and those who had only days to live should be counted as covid deaths but covid isn't what killed them. Your mentality is that if someone with covid gets hit by a car and dies covid is the cause of death, smh.

[URL]https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/cdc-director-acknowledges-hospitals-have-a-monetary-incentive-to-overcount-coronavirus-deaths[/URL][/QUOTE]Dude the CDC see people who died of or with COVID-19 one and the same because again they would been alive if they not catch COVID-19 plus the majority who died are not stage 4 cancer patients but people with pre existing conditions that are not immediate fatal such as people with heart conditions, asthma, pulmonary hypertension, diabetes, down syndrome, hiv, weakened immune system, obesity, people who smoke heavily, pregnancy. People who live with obesity, diabetes, or heart disease for years but then get infected with COVID-19 and die quickly.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html[/URL]

[URL]httpss://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm[/URL]

Tell me SkyWookie do you suffer from any these conditions? If you do and mange to catch COVID-19 your chances of survival decrease greatly and even if you do survive chances are your quality of life would most likely never be the same again.

[QUOTE=TheRabbit;5334922]Dude the CDC see people who died of or with COVID-19 one and the same because again they would been alive if they not catch COVID-19 plus the majority who died are not stage 4 cancer patients but people with pre existing conditions that are not immediate fatal such as people with heart conditions, asthma, pulmonary hypertension, diabetes, down syndrome, hiv, weakened immune system, obesity, people who smoke heavily, pregnancy. People who live with obesity, diabetes, or heart disease for years but then get infected with COVID-19 and die quickly.

[URL]https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html[/URL]

[URL]httpss://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm[/URL]

Tell me SkyWookie do you suffer from any these conditions? If you do and mange to catch COVID-19 your chances of survival decrease greatly and even if you do survive chances are your quality of life would most likely never be the same again.[/QUOTE]People with hours to live from terminal illnesses were catching covid in the hospitals in NY and instead of putting on the death cert. That they died of cancer they put they died of covid because of the profits, the extra gov. Money they got. Did they die of covid? Did the covid affect their death? Did they even have covid?

It's estimated over half the covid deaths were forged by hospitals to get money. Did you notice nobody died of heart attack or stroke last year, only covid! Again the covid numbers are grossly exaggerated by at least a multiple of 10.

[QUOTE=Whiteknightat;5334291]Let's see what the AZ election audit shows. There are credible reports from thousands of witnesses of voter fraud. If you are right, what are you afraid of?[/QUOTE]That's bullshit and you know it.

[QUOTE=RenMan;5335269]That's bullshit and you know it.[/QUOTE]Here in Georgia election day was hot and sunny and democrats were walking around will cold water asking "will you vote for biden for a cold water?" I saw it with my own eyes, we all know liberals will lie, cheat and steal to get their way so don't be surprised when the investigation shows widespread voter fraud by democrats.

[QUOTE=Whiteknightat;5334291]Let's see what the AZ election audit shows. There are credible reports from thousands of witnesses of voter fraud. If you are right, what are you afraid of?[/QUOTE]I am looking forward to the results of a full audit. I am pretty sure if it goes all the way through without any hiccups we'll see some disturbing things. As always they'll create a distraction to get people side tracked from the results of the audit. Hell they are trying to block an audit still to this day and in my opinion it is because they have something to hide. Georgia needs an audit as well. No one likes the current administration LOL. Not even the retards whom I told not to vote for the fool still did and now regret it. Funny its been less that 5 months and its been a disaster so far.

Lockdowns have had catastrophic effects. It has contributed to an increase in suicides, drug abuse, unemployment surges. The increase in suicides amongst children was disturbing and some did it live on zoom calls in class. The list goes on. Government over reach at its finest. Fabricate a crisis to push bs. Vaccine passports were being distributed to states 20 months before covid even happened LMFAO. Let that sink in. Most people that are susceptible to covid are people whom are obese, have 2-3 medical complications etc. You do more harm than good to your body by being paranoid and avoiding people. Most people don't know how to take care of their own immune system or body hence we have dumbasses who still wear mask like idiots. Face shields on as if we don't absorb anything through our skin, eye glands, hair follicles etc. Covid only has full effect when standing up and covid moves in a straight line face ass mofos LOL. People wearing see through mask made of plastic. Can make a fortune with this ignorant dumb mofos. Keep your immune system up to aide your body at fending off infections.

A German charity organization requested a lab to test a face mask that a child had been wearing for 8 hours. The test yielded 82 bacterial colonies and 4 mold colonies. Funny how you'll never hear about these test on MSM outlets. Your body expels carbon dioxide and other toxins and here someone is trapping all that in a mask and breathing it all back in. As if that is good for the body. Hence right now and this happened to a few friends of mine. One got rotting gums and is now required by the doctor not to wear a dam mask like a clown. Also kept getting sick. Decreased oxygen intake does increase cortisol levels which also does have negative effects on ones immune system. A few others developed a cough that would not go away and it turns out to be an infection. Of course you have fake news sources trying to debunk reality and say wear 2 3 mask on your face LOL. I've seen people do it. Absolutely stupid. Here is a link going to many case studies [URL]https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/[/URL].

Covid death numbers are over inflated BTW. How they count covid infections and deaths is pretty abysmal to say the least. For instance if I (hypothetically speaking) have covid and I have 10 other people I interact regularly. They'll count those other 10 as positive cases even if they don't have covid LOL. If a person dies from a car accident, gun shot wound etc. and have covid in their system. It is counted as a covid death. Hell the Flu is mistaken for covid in these test. All this stuff is a way to instill fear to control the masses. If people were to exercises, stay in shape, eat right and supplement the right herbs or vitamins for immune system support. Over 1 year later and people want to remain ignorant asf and still give heed to news ha.

[QUOTE=Jrody1;5335373]I am looking forward to the results of a full audit. I am pretty sure if it goes all the way through without any hiccups we'll see some disturbing things. As always they'll create a distraction to get people side tracked from the results of the audit. Hell they are trying to block an audit still to this day and in my opinion it is because they have something to hide. Georgia needs an audit as well. No one likes the current administration LOL. Not even the retards whom I told not to vote for the fool still did and now regret it. Funny its been less that 5 months and its been a disaster so far.[/QUOTE]FYI, Georgia had THREE vote recounts that confirmed Biden won Georgia. Georgia Republican Secretary of State Brad Ratffensperger announced [I]“It’s been a long 34 days since the election on Nov. 3,“. We have now counted legally cast ballots three times, and the results remain unchanged.”[/I] Biden won!

[URL]https://www.ajc.com/politics/election/georgia-recount-confirms-biden-win-again-but-trump-still-battling/OZGAOQCMKVFG7G43L5PSF3BNHM/[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jrody1;5335373]I am looking forward to the results of a full audit. I am pretty sure if it goes all the way through without any hiccups we'll see some disturbing things. As always they'll create a distraction to get people side tracked from the results of the audit. Hell they are trying to block an audit still to this day and in my opinion it is because they have something to hide. Georgia needs an audit as well. [/QUOTE]The lead company conducting the GOP's audit is a Florida security company called Cyber Ninjas, which has no experience with elections. Cyber Ninjas' CEO, Doug Logan, however, does have a history of spreading pro-Trump conspiracy theories about the 2020 election.

After a state court ordered Cyber Ninjas to disclose how it is conducting this so-called audit, a subcontractor revealed that the process involves weighing ballots, examining them under a microscope, and examining the "thickness or feel" of individual ballots in order to identify "questionable ballots" that need to be examined by a "lead forensic examiner" and then "removed from the batch and sent for further analysis. ".

And then there's a giant mystery involving ultraviolet lights.

As part of the audit, according to a document laying out the process for examining ballots, workers are required to place ballots "under UV-B and UV-A source" to compare the illuminated ballots to "representative specimens. " It's not at all clear what exposing the ballots to UV light is supposed to accomplish a coalition of election experts wrote the Justice Department asking it to send observers to monitor this quizzical audit, and one of their concerns is that "ultraviolet light causes not only paper to deteriorate, but also leads to the deterioration of marks on paper ballots. ".

Yeah these people sound like they are competent and are not trying not to have Trump wins this audit by cheating... Give me a break, the town fool can see that this is nothing but a sham.

[QUOTE=Jrody1;5335416]Lockdowns have had catastrophic effects. It has contributed to an increase in suicides, drug abuse, unemployment surges. The increase in suicides amongst children was disturbing and some did it live on zoom calls in class. The list goes on. Government over reach at its finest. Fabricate a crisis to push bs. Vaccine passports were being distributed to states 20 months before covid even happened LMFAO. Let that sink in. Most people that are susceptible to covid are people whom are obese, have 2-3 medical complications etc. You do more harm than good to your body by being paranoid and avoiding people. Most people don't know how to take care of their own immune system or body hence we have dumbasses who still wear mask like idiots. Face shields on as if we don't absorb anything through our skin, eye glands, hair follicles etc. Covid only has full effect when standing up and covid moves in a straight line face ass mofos LOL. People wearing see through mask made of plastic. Can make a fortune with this ignorant dumb mofos. Keep your immune system up to aide your body at fending off infections.

A German charity organization requested a lab to test a face mask that a child had been wearing for 8 hours. The test yielded 82 bacterial colonies and 4 mold colonies. Funny how you'll never hear about these test on MSM outlets. Your body expels carbon dioxide and other toxins and here someone is trapping all that in a mask and breathing it all back in. As if that is good for the body. Hence right now and this happened to a few friends of mine. One got rotting gums and is now required by the doctor not to wear a dam mask like a clown. Also kept getting sick. Decreased oxygen intake does increase cortisol levels which also does have negative effects on ones immune system. A few others developed a cough that would not go away and it turns out to be an infection. Of course you have fake news sources trying to debunk reality and say wear 2 3 mask on your face LOL. I've seen people do it. Absolutely stupid. Here is a link going to many case studies [URL]https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/[/URL].

Covid death numbers are over inflated BTW. How they count covid infections and deaths is pretty abysmal to say the least. For instance if I (hypothetically speaking) have covid and I have 10 other people I interact regularly. They'll count those other 10 as positive cases even if they don't have covid LOL. If a person dies from a car accident, gun shot wound etc. and have covid in their system. It is counted as a covid death. Hell the Flu is mistaken for covid in these test. All this stuff is a way to instill fear to control the masses. If people were to exercises, stay in shape, eat right and supplement the right herbs or vitamins for immune system support. Over 1 year later and people want to remain ignorant asf and still give heed to news ha.[/QUOTE]Here's a very appropriate analogy. See attached image.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5335783]FYI, Georgia had THREE vote recounts that confirmed Biden won Georgia. Georgia Republican Secretary of State Brad Ratffensperger announced [I]Its been a long 34 days since the election on Nov. 3,. We have now counted legally cast ballots three times, and the results remain unchanged.[/I] Biden won!

[URL]https://www.ajc.com/politics/election/georgia-recount-confirms-biden-win-again-but-trump-still-battling/OZGAOQCMKVFG7G43L5PSF3BNHM/[/URL][/QUOTE]You are right, Biden won Georgia, although tens of thousands of democrats are wishing they had voted differently, but I tried telling democrats I knew how horrible and overreaching the dems would be if elected they didn't listen and now democrats all over the country by the millions are wishing they hadn't voted Biden, but again too little too late.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5335286]Here in Georgia election day was hot and sunny and democrats were walking around will cold water asking "will you vote for biden for a cold water?" [/QUOTE]So your saying that the people of Georgia are easily swayed by a cold bottle of water (which cost about a dollar), even the hard core republicans?

[QUOTE=Jrody1;5335416]Lockdowns have had catastrophic effects. It has contributed to an increase in suicides, drug abuse, The increase in suicides amongst children was disturbing and some did it live on zoom calls in class. The list goes on. Government over reach at its finest. Fabricate a crisis to push bs.
[/QUOTE]You got any stats from reliable sources to back all of that up?

[QUOTE=Jrody1;5335416]Vaccine passports were being distributed to states 20 months before covid even happened LMFAO. [/QUOTE]You have any proof this is true?

[QUOTE=Jrody1;5335416]A German charity organization requested a lab to test a face mask that a child had been wearing for 8 hours. The test yielded 82 bacterial colonies and 4 mold colonies. Funny how you'll never hear about these test on MSM outlets. Your body expels carbon dioxide and other toxins and here someone is trapping all that in a mask and breathing it all back in. As if that is good for the body. Hence right now and this happened to a few friends of mine. One got rotting gums and is now required by the doctor not to wear a dam mask like a clown. Also kept getting sick. Decreased oxygen intake does increase cortisol levels which also does have negative effects on ones immune system. A few others developed a cough that would not go away and it turns out to be an infection.[/QUOTE]All of this is false and been disproven and I think it's very likely your friend just has bad dental care.

[QUOTE=Jrody1;5335416]ost people that are susceptible to covid are people whom are obese, have 2-3 medical complications etc. [/QUOTE]So your saying we shouldn't care if COVID-19 kills off only the obese, elderly, sick, and undesirables?

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5335240]People with hours to live from terminal illnesses were catching covid in the hospitals in NY and instead of putting on the death cert. That they died of cancer they put they died of covid because of the profits, the extra gov. Money they got. Did they die of covid? Did the covid affect their death? Did they even have covid?
[/QUOTE]Pretty sure most of them did had COVID-19 and once again the majority who died are not are not terminal ill patients but people with pre existing conditions that are not immediate fatal such as people with heart conditions, asthma, pulmonary hypertension, diabetes, down syndrome, hiv, weakened immune system, obesity, people who smoke heavily, pregnancy.

In New York there were 50,000+ deaths due to the virus and I am damn sure that most of them were not terminal ill who were hours away from death.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5335240]It's estimated over half the covid deaths were forged by hospitals to get money.[/QUOTE]There's no proof this is true and even if it was it's certainly a fraction, not 50 percent.

[QUOTE=SkyWookie;5335240]Did you notice nobody died of heart attack or stroke last year, only covid![/QUOTE]Oh people died but the reason why the numbers are low officially is the majority are staying home due to fear of the virus.

[URL]https://www.dicardiology.com/content/covid-caused-major-decline-heart-attack-patients-seeking-care[/URL]

[QUOTE=Jrody1;5335373]I am looking forward to the results of a full audit. I am pretty sure if it goes all the way through without any hiccups we'll see some disturbing things. As always they'll create a distraction to get people side tracked from the results of the audit. Hell they are trying to block an audit still to this day and in my opinion it is because they have something to hide. Georgia needs an audit as well. No one likes the current administration LOL. Not even the retards whom I told not to vote for the fool still did and now regret it. Funny its been less that 5 months and its been a disaster so far.[/QUOTE]The only thing this post proves is that you don't know any intelligent people. Which shouldn't be surprising since you don't seem too bright, and smart people don't like to hang out with idiots unless it's amusing.

[QUOTE=RogerOver;5336030]The only thing this post proves is that you don't know any intelligent people. Which shouldn't be surprising since you don't seem too bright, and smart people don't like to hang out with idiots unless it's amusing.[/QUOTE]"I'm not to bright". What an insult to my intelligence in the things that I do know. LOL. So you're trying to call people whom are critical of what happened. "Unintelligent" LOL. What a century we are in where people can't think for themselves. Oh the news said there was no fraud so there was no fraud. Who cares about video evidence of people committing fraud and a plethora of shady things happening. Let the audit happen so you can prove the doubters wrong. What's wrong with that? I have smart intelligent friends whom are quite up there in places and have the same sentiment. Latinos, AAs, Asians Caucasians etc. To define ones intellect on their opinion based on factual information and evidence. Is pretty dumb. Thanks bro for calling us "dumb" bahaha.

[QUOTE=TheRabbit;5335853]You got any stats from reliable sources to back all of that up?[/QUOTE]Bro do you know how to do fucking research? Your literally making a fool of yourself. There are countless studies about this shit and its not even a fucking game. Suicide on the rise in our children is due to the fact that their mental estate has gone down significantly. Children are suppose to interact with other children etc. That is how they develop. Sheesh. Here is a fucking study bro. There are people who lost everything and that in turn caused them to take their own life. The CDC even conducted a study of their own. They found that over a quarter of young adults ages 18-24 contemplated suicide in the previous month, in large part due to the pandemic and lockdowns. NEXT.

[URL]https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33811706/[/URL]

[URL]https://fee.org/articles/harvard-researchers-nearly-half-of-young-adults-showing-signs-of-depression-amid-pandemic/[/URL]

[QUOTE=TheRabbit;5335853]You have any proof this is true?[/QUOTE]Bro RESEARCH. You have the internet at your finger tips 24 hours 7 days a week.

The 'European Commission' – the executive body of Europe – first published a proposal for vaccine passports on April 26 2018. Buried deep in a document dealing with 'Strengthened Cooperation against Vaccine Preventable Diseases', the proposal was essentially ignored by the mainstream media. Bruh I have said it over and over in this forum. One thing I am not is a person who spreads fallacies and bullshit. I hate liars with a passion FYI. Your welcome for doing your homework LOL.

Here is the European commissions pdf document bro [URL]https://ec.europa.eu/transparency/regdoc/rep/1/2018/EN/COM-2018-244-F1-EN-MAIN-PART-1.PDF[/URL].

NEXT bahaha.

[QUOTE=TheRabbit;5335853]All of this is false and been disproven and I think it's very likely your friend just has bad dental care.[/QUOTE]Oh my lord. Sure sherlock. The friends I am talking about are wealthier than me and you're saying they don't know how to take care of themselves? BAHAHAHAAA LOOL. Yo did you do any research before commenting?

Here are some articles. READ.

[URL]https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/mask-mouth-dentists-warn-prolonged-use-of-masks-leading-to-poor-oral-hygiene[/URL]

[URL]https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8604639/Dentists-says-mask-wearing-causing-tooth-decay-gum-disease.html[/URL]

Thousands of people have rotting gums and teeth bruh. "Disproven" where? Foolish asf. When you where a mask you are breathing in back all that carbon dioxide back into your mouth and lungs. It is almost the same as locking yourself in a garage with the car running. Got to be kidding me on how ignorant you are. You must believe in vaccines when thousands of people are having bad side effects, one woman got paralyzed from taking the vaccine in Tennessee. Hell a young doctor who played soccer. Healthy etc. died after taking the vax. My friend who just got it is also feeling weird and has been on and off lately. Also for the mask I linked a website that has multiple case studies about mask.

[QUOTE=TheRabbit;5335853]So your saying we shouldn't care if COVID-19 kills off only the obese, elderly, sick, and undesirables?[/QUOTE]Why are you putting words in my post? Aka words in my mouth. Typical democrat LOL. Almost all the time I debate with a liberal they end up saying things I never even mention. Where in the hell did I say don't care about these people? People hire up don't give a fuck about them. Hell why don't you ask the people who developed this strain of SARs. Secondly these people are the "undesirables of society" if you want to look at it from a "Elites" perspective who wants to "save the planet". Why don't you look into somethings for once? Who are the primary people that have a major strain on our health industry and quite frankly our resources? Do you know 30 k + obese people die a month?? Did you know that?

Your forgetting one thing that matters and that is personal responsibility. People are responsible for their own health and the choices that they make. You want to get obese asf, smoke a lot, drink a lot etc. That is their problem and what comes of it is their fault. No one else's fault. Your talking about a disease that has over a 99 percent survival rate from ages 18-60. In kids barely anything. In the elderly population it is over 94 percent survival rate. "Where the stats At?" . This stat find it. Do some factually based research rather than view Main stream outlets for news. Facts over feelings any day. Should ask why Cuomo deliberately put covid patients in nursing homes with the elderly with compromised immune systems? Hell they are doing an investigation on that last time I checked.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;5335795]Here's a very appropriate analogy. See attached image.[/QUOTE]Pretty childish analogy must I say. Fun fact. The states with no lockdowns, no mask mandates and shit have less covid deaths, less new cases etc. Shall we compare crime stats of states with lockdowns and others with no lockdowns?

Proves my fucking point about mask effecting peoples immune systems. Your not even getting enough oxygen into your body by wearing one. To top things off your breathing in carbon dioxide that your body is expelling back into your lungs. This is causing people to get sick as I stated.

Fun fact for your about mask. Take a mask put it on. Fart. Tell me if you smell it. If you do. How the hell do you believe that shit is blocking covid? A mask to covid is like a mosquito flying through a chain linked fence. Its that ineffective. Lockdowns do not work and have caused more problems rather than being a solution.