Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

[QUOTE=Bucks97;1938155]I'm just saying that believing some of your favorite providers aren't drug users is probably delusional and sets up a distinction that has no real difference. They're not all glassy eyed, track marked or undependable. Even among the heroin users, some are pretty good at shooting up where it doesn't show and others are just snorting it. I've simply seen way too many alert and seemingly sober women in this business who end up getting arrested with drugs or needles. I've seen at least one case of a "respected senior" swearing a higher-end provider is clean despite said provider having just pleaded guilty to drug-related charges.

It's only prudent to assume that any provider you visit in this hobby is a drug user and recognize the risks. That's why having them to your home or in your car is a bad idea. You get pulled over and she decides to ditch her drugs or supplies and suddenly you're in a whole other level of legal culpability. I'm assuming the guys who are using streetwalkers are aware of this risk, because that's a population where pretty much 100% of the providers are drug users. I'm not sure the guys using escorts are always aware of the risk, and they should be.[/QUOTE]A long time may or may not have a plan that works for them in that respect. Let each person deal with ladies as fits them. We all know there are many risks and just by being in this we accept that fact. None of us in this know anything for sure. We can only take a leap of faith based on fellow mongerers and who we see and go from there with who we chose to see and not see. Have a great week and Happy Thanksgiving early.

[QUOTE=Bucks97;1938155]I'm just saying that believing some of your favorite providers aren't drug users is probably delusional and sets up a distinction that has no real difference. They're not all glassy eyed, track marked or undependable. Even among the heroin users, some are pretty good at shooting up where it doesn't show and others are just snorting it. I've simply seen way too many alert and seemingly sober women in this business who end up getting arrested with drugs or needles. I've seen at least one case of a "respected senior" swearing a higher-end provider is clean despite said provider having just pleaded guilty to drug-related charges.

It's only prudent to assume that any provider you visit in this hobby is a drug user and recognize the risks. That's why having them to your home or in your car is a bad idea. You get pulled over and she decides to ditch her drugs or supplies and suddenly you're in a whole other level of legal culpability. I'm assuming the guys who are using streetwalkers are aware of this risk, because that's a population where pretty much 100% of the providers are drug users. I'm not sure the guys using escorts are always aware of the risk, and they should be.[/QUOTE]I totally agree with you Bucs...,most of these guys would be shocked if the truth were to be known about how many of these girls are on one kind of a drug or the other. I recall someone saying to stay away from a provider because she was on the needle hard and I asked my self, how dess he know all of the girls he sees isn't hitting the needle? HARD! With the current landscape of just about every addicted person turning to heroin because of its availabiluty, cheap price, and how addictive it is. I mean what do these guys do? Carry a urine test kit? Hair test kit? And have a lab follow them to thier appointments? Most of these ladies are using our funds to attain drugs to feed thier addiction, do not buy into the fantasy that they are using the money for anything other than that.

[QUOTE=KeepnItReel;1938346]I totally agree with you Bucs...,most of these guys would be shocked if the truth were to be known about how many of these girls are on one kind of a drug or the other. I recall someone saying to stay away from a provider because she was on the needle hard and I asked my self, how dess he know all of the girls he sees isn't hitting the needle? HARD! With the current landscape of just about every addicted person turning to heroin because of its availabiluty, cheap price, and how addictive it is. I mean what do these guys do? Carry a urine test kit? Hair test kit? And have a lab follow them to thier appointments? Most of these ladies are using our funds to attain drugs to feed thier addiction, do not buy into the fantasy that they are using the money for anything other than that.[/QUOTE]Some folks on here will probably know of the individual. Sometimes it's just hard to believe someone you've come to trust, consider a friend, and has vehemently talked about the problems of heroin use is in fact a heroin user. I've had other cases where a provider will go through a list of the drug problems of others in the business while denying her own involvement, only to see her turn up in the mugshots with a drug charge. Usually these days, those charges involve heroin.

We'd all like to think we can instantly spot drug users, that they're obvious, that they're horrible people we can dismiss easily. The sad fact is that they're not. Often, they're pretty damn good people with a particular, potentially fatal weakness. And that's something that leads them to do this for a living, because it beats shoplifting and all the copper was long ago removed from the vacant buildings. True, the ones who don't even bother to hide their addictions anymore are worse off and probably closer to fatal overdoses and are even more dangerous to be around.

I have actually run into the occasional young woman who really is doing it as a temporary way to pay some bills.- but they are I believe the exceptions. I'm sure there are some others who do this for the long haul and are not addicts, though I certainly wouldn't bet on it in any particular case. And there are at least a few I know of who've gotten clean, seem to be doing well, and, guess what? They don't go back into the hobby. This is in part because drug addiction is an occupational hazard of being in the hobby and the temptation would make it harder to stay clean. Not to venture into forbidden topic areas, but one reason some providers won't see guys of a certain demographic profile is the belief that these guys only want to offer drugs in barter, not cash. This is an unfair characterization in part because there are also some guys of other demographic profiles, such as a former local politician, who was doing the same thing.

We'd all like to think, well most of us probably, the money we're spending isn't being used to buy drugs. But in most cases, I simply wouldn't bet on it. I don't think it helps to delude ourselves. And I can do without sanctimonious BS from guys who are convinced they're only seeing non-addicts when that's most likely untrue and they have no way of really knowing whether it is or not.

Not sure where else to post this but is anyone getting malware warnings when trying to get to this site? I have never had issues with it on this site and I run a variety of scans frequently so I'm wondering what's going on?

1. An Asian provider.

2. A Latina spinner.

[QUOTE=Briant2;1940696]Not sure where else to post this but is anyone getting malware warnings when trying to get to this site? I have never had issues with it on this site and I run a variety of scans frequently so I'm wondering what's going on?[/QUOTE]This just happened a few months ago Admin fixed the problem, I have an IPad I only have the problem on google I switched to yahoo and I haven't had any problems.

[QUOTE=SpartanKY;1940698]1. An Asian provider.

2. A Latina spinner.[/QUOTE]3. A true massage provider (not just a quick rub) with a great finish.

I'm getting the malware reports too. I sent a detailed message to Admin with all the info I could scrounge from my antivirus to help them identify the problem. Haven't heard back from them yet.

Cheech.

Well, I'm sitting here this fine Thanksgiving, reflecting on my travels this year and enjoying being back in Cincinnati. I have been enjoying the monger lifestyle for a couple years now and really have seen a change the last six months. The dollar is stronger than ever, as the prices are dropping for providers nationwide, but Cinci has sooo much talent, compared to the majority of cites nationwide, that I am amazed at the selection and value for our buck. Even the higher priced Providers, are feeling the pressure from competition. I must confess, since entering this arena, yes I'm an old fart, that my game has gotten so good, while enjoying all of the beautiful providers that Cincinnati has to offer, that I now find myself dating multiple young ladies, nationwide, without much or minimal effort. No web sites, random encounters with young ladies, coworkers, that normally turn their noses up? No Sugar Daddy deals, just right place right time? Provider induced Confidence? The shear pleasure of twenty year old ladies, now available for free? The selection of new talent here has me drooling, even more than the turkey cooking downstairs and I now feel guilty, not spending my hard earned money on these new, fine ladies. I have developed a criteria, if you will. That if I do have an encounter, I figure what the cost per excursion, food, drink, etc and if I want to invest a dollar amount, for a conquest or wait till I get back to Cincinnati. So far the fun factor, has been a good return per investment, but after checking out the new ladies here, I'm going to share the wealth at home! Happy Thanksgiving!

... To all my mongero bubbas and bubbettes in my adopted home town. Had a great dinner tonight at the Mansion, Turkery (yours truly cooked it) ham, stuffing, mashed potaters, corn, peas, gravy and Jax's squeeze made a great, GREAT apple pie. Had a full house, watched football, banged my Paraguaya it was a good day.

I'd list all the stuff I'm thankful for but you guys end up hating me when I post the links of the girls I'm currently tapping.

Hope everybody had a really good one this year.

A2.

Don't know what causes it but malware seems to be an issue lately so a system scan might be in order. I have Norton and McAfee but if anyone can suggest another anti virus software I am open. It is a ***** to sign in and find your IP number town of origin a pic of Obama and a list of citations with requests for money Bad enough looking at Obama let alone asking for dollars. Just a friendly heads up to you BIG BUBBA I know your system is extensive but this FBI shit is a PIA and needs to come off It took me and AOL four hours to remove it yesterday It is bad enough having no pussy for Thanksgiving let alone having to spend that much time removing a virus and needing some good food and P.S.y to go with it plus looking at BARRRRRAACKKKKK IN the process. Glad you had a good holiday. Now back to mongering. Big Mack.

[QUOTE=Admin2;1941078]... To all my mongero bubbas and bubbettes in my adopted home town. Had a great dinner tonight at the Mansion, Turkery (yours truly cooked it) ham, stuffing, mashed potaters, corn, peas, gravy and Jax's squeeze made a great, GREAT apple pie. Had a full house, watched football, banged my Paraguaya it was a good day.

I'd list all the stuff I'm thankful for but you guys end up hating me when I post the links of the girls I'm currently tapping.

Hope everybody had a really good one this year.

A2.[/QUOTE]Yes A2, it might make us mad, but I sure do enjoy seeing the pics. .

What about the streetcar?

BFDeal

[QUOTE=SpartanKY;1940698]1. An Asian provider.

2. A Latina spinner.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigMack;1941203]Don't know what causes it but malware seems to be an issue lately so a system scan might be in order. I have Norton and McAfee but if anyone can suggest another anti virus software I am open. It is a ***** to sign in and find your IP number town of origin a pic of Obama and a list of citations with requests for money Bad enough looking at Obama let alone asking for dollars. Just a friendly heads up to you BIG BUBBA I know your system is extensive but this FBI shit is a PIA and needs to come off It took me and AOL four hours to remove it yesterday It is bad enough having no pussy for Thanksgiving let alone having to spend that much time removing a virus and needing some good food and P.S.y to go with it plus looking at BARRRRRAACKKKKK IN the process. Glad you had a good holiday. Now back to mongering. Big Mack.[/QUOTE]Hi BigMack.

I monitor this site from the UK each day and manage to partake in our hobby in Orlando for a few weeks each year. Although I have had the warnings, no problem with FBI threats or the like. A close friend of mine had a UK threat equivalent to yours when visiting 'similar' sites to USASG in the UK resulting in the 'blue screen of death'. So we googled the threat on my laptop and found a free procedure which sorted it out. I use, and installed on his laptop, 'Malwarebytes' which I downloaded for free from a proxy site. Since then he's had no problems of this nature.

If you want to pm me, I'll pm you back a link to the download. Depends on your broadband speed. I have 120 mp / s. It took me about 15 minutes to download, install and install a keygen code. The one I use updates itself automatically.

Hope this helps.

Beady.