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[QUOTE=Lovely Bbw Lee; 1249196]Just because you don't pay for porn, doesn't mean that no one else does. I have my own personal site, (have for about 3 years now) I don't have sex on the site. Until now. And I get a check every month from the site. Yes it's not a million dollars, but for a site that I do hardly nothing. I make something.

And yes not all porn shoot do you only get paid up front, if your wanted and liked you'll still get a cut. Especially if the video was put on DVD. A lot of porn shoot you do only get paid up front though.[/QUOTE]If it wasn't for all the pay porn sites there wouldn't be much of any free porn at least of any quality. Do you think the major producers do it for free, no, they do it for their own pay sites and members download and post it on tube sites etc.

I don't know much about mongering but I do have enough knowledge about producing to at least keep me out of trouble while making a little money. Truth is the vast majority of actresses are paid either a day rate or on a per scene basis and unless you're a really big star, usually under contract, it's rare to get any backend money. That's why so many develop their own pay sites and feature dance around the country. The truth is, with the economy and free porn, even their day rates are down to around the $900 range and there are some more fetish type models in the central Fl area that are down to the $500 for the day which equates to 6-7 hrs. Of course there are exceptions to the rule and some develop a following for certain types of content and can do well at it but when they stray from their proven niche things don't go so well.

The ladies I've known that seem to do the best dabble in both dating and acting. As the girl who introduced me to producing always told me, she was far better off shooting some foot fetish videos for $75 per hr than sitting at home waiting for a call for a $200 date that may or may not come and she ends up with nothing. So you know, in the end she developed a pretty good following as a Domme / beatdown mistress and mainly does private work even though she does produce her own vids now and has a high 5 figure yearly income.

[url]http://www.localescortpages.com/38/posts/8-Adult-Services/8-Female-Escorts/2185185-HEATHER-407-453-9635-SIMPLY-CATERING-TO-UPSCALE-GENTLEMEN-THAT-ARE-ACCUSTOMED-TO-THE-FINER-THINGS-IN.html#[/url]

Please tell me she's real! She's on BP, too as "Riley".

Any info, please PM.

She's a dream cum true.

Had a dream about Mallori today, what more can be said. Dreamed I meet the coochie keeper dragon, that approved of me and allowed me to explore that wonderful cave. She is a total sweet girl and great person, felt I had known her forever, made me so comfortable from the moment she opened the door. Not going to go into great detail for any and all to see, but in no way was I disappointed, never rushed and had a great dream with Mallori, if you have ever had a dream with her you know what I'm talking about. If you haven't then you are missing a heck of a dream. Hope to see her again soon.

AM

[QUOTE=Irvingtonp;1249687]Most working girls are in a bad financial situation all the time. That is why they are working girls.[/QUOTE]These statements are so asinine as to hardly warrant commentary. [b]Some[/b] May be in bad financial situations, but certainly not all.

I have also found their reasons for getting into the life [b]vary greatly[/b], and rarely is it simply "Oh my, I have bills and debts and no money. I know what I'll do!" If anything, the most common backgrounds (for independents at least) are:[list]
[*]single mother with a dead beat asshole for an ex ([b]easily[/b] The most common)
[*]got turned out when they were young and dumb and used to be indentured to some exploitive male; now they are using what they know until they can get their life in order (at least they are trying to do someting positive)
[*]had a good job and suddenly found themselves without income to pay the bills (where do you think a lot of the newer 28-40 year old providers hitting the scene are coming from)
[*]have a shitty family they can't go to for help so they are doing the best they can on their own.
[*]just kind of fell into it; through stripping, having had a sugar daddy, etc.
[/list]
Ones with Daddy's or "management" (versus real / legit professional bookers / assistants) got there for all kinds of reasons, but finanaces usually isn't the original one. If anything, they have self-esteem issues that the parasites exploit to entrap them in the pimp game.



[QUOTE=Irvingtonp;1249687]90 percent of them got drug habits as well.[/QUOTE]Maybe you should do a better job of researching your choices. I am no shrinking violet when it comes to intoxicating substances and personally, I have not found any evidence to back your assertion. In fact, a few ladies I have met eventually opted never to see me again because they disagrred with my classical liberal positions on drugs. Perhaps if you stopped looking for the cheapest ass you can find, and / or any woman willing to do virtually anything for a mere pittance of cash, you'd find a better class of women than crackheads and junkies.

[blue]Greetings Everyone,

I recently cleaned up this thread by deleting a number of off-topic and otherwise pointless posts, as well as a number responses made by other forum members to these deleted posts.

This cleanup process is not perfect, and it's possible that I may have inadvertently deleted a few otherwise legitimate posts. If you find that your own report was also deleted, please don't take it personally.

Thanks,

Jackson[/blue]

First off, this is where this discussions should have been started in the first place. So I'm taking the liberty of doing so. I'm really not wanting to point any fingers here, but the last few post on the Negative Thread, I have to say you Gentleman clearly are misunderstanding.

All I simply wanted from the beginning was a referral from one new member on this board, I wasn't asking for real names, social security, place of employment or the name of your first born child, Geeez, give me a break, what is wrong with trying to play it safe?

So to Mikeinbrazil, Gruglok, and Plzd269, and again not trying to point fingers here, but I do have to make a point here.

FYI I do retain my good faith and spirit at all times, I am not growing bitter at all. This whole discussion was not started over someone haveing a bad experience with me, it all started over me just simply wanting a name of maybe just one provider the guy might have seen. I really can't get caught out there alone with some sicko that might want to do bad things and really don't want to run into LE either.

So please can we all just get along here and have some fun.

PLAYING IT SAFE,

Jerseygirl.

XoXoXo

[QUOTE=Jerseygirl; 1256228]First off, this is where this discussions should have been started in the first place. So I'm taking the liberty of doing so. I'm really not wanting to point any fingers here, but the last few post on the Negative Thread, I have to say you Gentleman clearly are misunderstanding.

All I simply wanted from the beginning was a referral from one new member on this board, I wasn't asking for real names, social security, place of employment or the name of your first born child, Geeez, give me a break, what is wrong with trying to play it safe?

So to Mikeinbrazil, Gruglok, and Plzd269, and again not trying to point fingers here, but I do have to make a point here.

FYI I do retain my good faith and spirit at all times, I am not growing bitter at all. This whole discussion was not started over someone haveing a bad experience with me, it all started over me just simply wanting a name of maybe just one provider the guy might have seen. I really can't get caught out there alone with some sicko that might want to do bad things and really don't want to run into LE either.

So please can we all just get along here and have some fun.

PLAYING IT SAFE,

Jerseygirl.

XoXoXo[/QUOTE]Good morning jersey, I realize that this topic began with a new members issue of having to give out a reference for you along with something he said about the length of time it took for you to respond back. However somewhere along the line it morphed into a debate about critiques and proper forum use which is why I popped in with my unsolicited two cents worth. I understand your wanting to play it safe however we all know that even a regular can go crazy, didn't ashley just have an issue with one of her regulars? My point is that this hobby is a gamble on both sides of the coin, I myself have never found a provider that I wanted to get real comfortable with meaning seeing them more then five times so I doubt that any of them would even remember me enough to give a solid referral so I just opt not to do it however I do respect you choice to require such referals. There are plenty of ladies who are secure with meeting in public and then an le check. I would love to meet you as you seem to be one in a million, however for myself the referral is a deal breaker. I hope you have a great week and I meant no offense to you whatsoever with my post, I have just been doing this a long time and I try not to vary from my routine as you know any change in pattern can lead to other issues. Have a great day. Plzd269

[QUOTE=Plzd269;1256713]I myself have never found a provider that I wanted to get real comfortable with meaning seeing them more then five times so I doubt that any of them would even remember me enough to give a solid referral[/QUOTE]I have often been astounded by what women remember about sessions I have had with them weeks, months and in one case almost a year before. They cite facts such as time, donation, gifts and trivial chit chat. And sometimes they remind me of things that I have completely forgotten. These, of course, are the women like Jersey and Ashley / Mystical who are much more than just the "one pop, in & out, wham bam, thank you mam type providers. These are the true GFE or JGE lovelies that we are so fortunate to have among our community. I have seen over 60 ladies in the last 14 months and have never had one bad experience with the referral process. Of course, it helps if you, the client, develop a reputation that speaks to your character. Newbies do face a challenge upon entry into the hobby and it should rightfully be that way. As in the real world, things that are worked for are much more rewarding than things that are handed to you. And naturally the safety of the lady is always foremost in importance. We clients always have the option to accept or reject the requests. Sour grapes has no place in the process. Personally, I feel much less at ease when a woman does not screen or screens minimally. These are just my thoughts in general and not aimed at you in particular Plzd269. I respect everyone's right to conduct their life in their own manner.

[QUOTE=Plzd269;1256713]Good morning jersey, I realize that this topic began with a new members issue of having to give out a reference for you along with something he said about the length of time it took for you to respond back. However somewhere along the line it morphed into a debate about critiques and proper forum use which is why I popped in with my unsolicited two cents worth. I understand your wanting to play it safe however we all know that even a regular can go crazy, didn't ashley just have an issue with one of her regulars? My point is that this hobby is a gamble on both sides of the coin, I myself have never found a provider that I wanted to get real comfortable with meaning seeing them more then five times so I doubt that any of them would even remember me enough to give a solid referral so I just opt not to do it however I do respect you choice to require such referals. There are plenty of ladies who are secure with meeting in public and then an le check. I would love to meet you as you seem to be one in a million, however for myself the referral is a deal breaker. I hope you have a great week and I meant no offense to you whatsoever with my post, I have just been doing this a long time and I try not to vary from my routine as you know any change in pattern can lead to other issues. Have a great day. Plzd269[/QUOTE]Agreed.

Jersey your reviews on here are great and people love you. They speak for themselves.

And honestly my beef was not really having to do with your situation, but more to do with people saying there should never be any negative reviews posted about great providers ever. That's not the point of this place.

[QUOTE=Ftguy68; 1256862]Agreed.

Jersey your reviews on here are great and people love you. They speak for themselves.

And honestly my beef was not really having to do with your situation, but more to do with people saying there should never be any negative reviews posted about great providers ever. That's not the point of this place.[/QUOTE]Ftguy68,

I don't think anyone is saying there souldn't be any negative reviews what they / I'm saying is that when a solid provider gets bashed by a very few mongers (compared to the multitudes of happy ones) there is going to be a large following standing up for her. Ftguy68 you've got to understand that many many mongers have been with Jersey and are happy, no extactic with the experience. I don't know if you have been on a date with her (I doubt it) but you should try to have one. I garantee you will be left numb. And if you can set it up make sure and report back. The experience will be way better than the thought in your mind.

Marc

I had the extreme good fortune to connect up with Selbie this afternoon. I saw her posting on BackDoor and liked what I saw and read. An appointment was easily set up for later in the day.

She lives in Christmas which is about 30 minutes east of downtown. I normally wouldn't go that far, but she seemed worth the trouble. Boy was I smart. She is as good as they come. I don't normally like ladies under 35 as I don't think they have reached their peak, but this one set the curve. She is a 30 year old way more mature then her years. She made me feel like I was the most important person in the world at that moment in time. She possesses all the skills you would expect of a top of the line courtesan, and thoroughly enjoys using them. I didn't want it to

End. She is extremely well read with a wide range of interests. Fun to talk to both before and after. At her$.8 price, she is a bargain. Can't wait to see her again. By the way she was willing to do everything I wanted and she did it with enthusiasm.

Lover66

[url]http://www.NataliaTacori.com/[/url]

Natalia is 100% legit and the real deal. Not for the budget minded, but well worth the effort if you can.

Prebooking is highly recommended, as her dance card tends to fill quickly. Date-Check and P411 friendly, others may require screening.

She'll be in town Aug 24. Aug 31.

[QUOTE=Ftguy68; 1256862]Agreed.

Jersey your reviews on here are great and people love you. They speak for themselves.

And honestly my beef was not really having to do with your situation, but more to do with people saying there should never be any negative reviews posted about great providers ever. That's not the point of this place.[/QUOTE]I don't recall anyone saying there should never be any negative reviews posted about Jersey. What was posted was some guy was pissed off because he tried to schedule with her and it took her 3 weeks to get back with him. Part of the problem is she had no clue who this guy is. He did not have a history on here or share with her what his history was. The posts he made on here indicated he wanted her to see him sigh unseen. You have to understand how frightening that can be for any provider. She tried to get some information from him that would help her be more comfortable. He felt like that was an unreasonable request. If you ask me, I side with Jersey. I wouldn't risk a one time date if I was her. What is her gain? $200? What is her loss? That is a simple decision for her to make.

[QUOTE=Michael Caffey; 1259149][url]http://www.NataliaTacori.com/[/url]

Natalia is 100% legit and the real deal. Not for the budget minded, but well worth the effort if you can.

Prebooking is highly recommended, as her dance card tends to fill quickly. Date-Check and P411 friendly, others may require screening.

She'll be in town Aug 24. Aug 31.[/QUOTE]Thats a hell of a lot of roses. I'll never spend that.

I just heard what you said.

How self righteous of you to avoid the junkies and crack working girls. Considering you personally know if the upscale providers are not on drugs.

I don't think you are in any position to talk about me. You are free to spend your money on who you please. Just like I got no problem spending money on who I please.

But don't think you are doing any woman a favor by tricking on them because you assume they got dead beat exes and "etc".

I think you seem to forgot why these providers are in the game.

Since you love the hos so much. You can always marry them and take them in. Since you are Captain Save a ho.

Good day.