Sex Trafficking in the US
[QUOTE=VerySlowly; 1142443]If that is true I agree with you and there is some truth to all of those type allegations.
But be careful of the propaganda you believe, I'm fully aware of what the Russians are capable of, they have been in Brighton beach in N. Y. For 27 years ever since perestroika. They are some of the hardest mobsters on earth.
The Liam Neeson film "Taken" outlined what you have talked about, that is another facet of the slave trade, which worldwide is bigger than it ever has been, which is beyond the imagination of the average American.
I think the Orlando parlors were not on the slave trade level anymore than the girls from the Easter Bloc who dance in the clubs in Tampa or the Dollhouse on the trail are part of that scene.
Having said that, in a study in Russian high schools the number 1 profession the graduating girls aspired to was "Prostitute" because of the glamour and ability to buy nice things, the opportunities for girls from small city's and villages from the Eastern block are bleak. A life of poverty and alcoholism for the uneducated is far closer to the norm. So it doesn't take much prodding to get them to work.
Personally I think the Chinese and Korean's have a big up on the Russians in the sex trade business worldwide, because much more goes on in AMPs that the norm I see reported on this board, I know because I've experienced it, personally I don't think it's the best bang for the buck but then I don't like hard massage tables for activities but that's a personal preference, I also like a guaranteed situation with maximum privacy. Last time I counted Orlando had 26 AMP's 10 year's ago there were none-VS[/QUOTE]As someone who spends a lot of time outside the US, I can tell everyone that what goes on here is nothing compared to most countries. The media loves to hype these sex trafficking stories because they sell. The other reason is to make their buddies the police look like good guys. Much of what you read in the media comes from the police. If the media doesn't play nice with the police, there go their sources.
The way for us as men to deal with this is to simply not patronize these places. As for AMPs, the women working there usually are not young and know exactly what is going on. They go from CA to NY and back to Asia then back to the US again. Girls who have been recruited by sex traffickers are never allowed to leave. They will look thin, drugged, sleep deprived and like they have been crying for days. If you see that, walk away and make a few calls. This is not about helping the police. It is about helping someone who can't help themselves.
Seminole John brings up the key point. Consent. The internet allows girls to be independent. They do not need a pimp. Again, if you see evidence of a pimp, walk away.
My experience on AMP in California
As for AMPs, the women working there usually are not young and know exactly what is going on. They go from CA to NY and back to Asia then back to the US again. Girls who have been recruited by sex traffickers are never allowed to leave. They will look thin, drugged, sleep deprived and like they have been crying for days. If you see that, walk away and make a few calls. This is not about helping the police. It is about helping someone who can't help themselves.
I was a regular to a Korean MP for 3 years when I was in California. I used to give the girls good tips and chat with them about their family, personal life and age. I even tried to make friend with them by mentioning I am single and looking for a wife from them.
None of them are forced to come to USA as result of sex trafficking. Korean girls can come to USA as tourists any time with easy-approval tourist visa. Recently, Korea has made a treaty with USA to mutually waive tourist visa for a short visit for a month to two.
It is hard for those Korean girls to find a job in their own country due to their lack of college degree. There is a tradition to come to sell themselves (body) to help their mothers, mostly widow or abandoned by the fathers. It is a respected behave for doing that in Korea. Most of the Korean Girls live in LA Korean town and back forth to SFO, NY, Tampa and other big cities. One of the girls I met actually came to USA to study accounting in San Diego US college. But she supports her own college by selling her body in MP. It is not a very shameful business in Korean girls because it is a "BUSINESS". They have many rules for this type of business. I still remember, the mamasan told me on the second day of new year after I told her that I called them on New Year's day for a message."Nobody works on the first day of a year in this business".
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It can't be enforced if it is true
[quote=michael caffey; 1143520]if memory serves me correctly, during the clinton administration sex tourism was made a crime for americans by executive order. it was touted as being necessarry to fight the exploitation of the **** (by american standards) in foreign countries. but in usual overreactive, kneejerk fashion, the actual order blanket covers all sex tourism.
i have never heard of it being enforced, but you still may wish to be careful. [/quote]no president can enact criminal law thru executive order. the constitution gives the power to make law solely to the congress. it would be a breach of separation of powers. he could have enacted some travel ban restrictions, to a point, to certain locations involving **** issues. that may be why its never been enforced if it is in fact true.