Escort Reports

[QUOTE=Tonylove465; 1427639]Cain,

Keep doing what you're doing. I'm with ya. Most of these guys think they know it all and they are the premier hobbyist. Like you said, this is what the forum is for. We see someone and we let others know about the experience. If they can't handle it, not much we can do about that. Keep posting![/QUOTE]You know TL I love you like a brother, but you are wrong, there is a time to talk and a time to shut up. That is a very important lesson that many could stand to learn. Moderation, consideration, discretion, and contemplation in all things. I am guilty more than most of having a big mouth and letting it run wild at times, but I am trying to do better. When needed or warranted, let er rip, but the old adage of "loose lips sink ships" is not without merit. I not referring to this particular set of circumstances, because I know that in this case the rationale for the pricing structure had absolutely nothing to do with all of this, that strategy is totally based and motivated on something else, but in the big picture would be more of my concern, not anything surrounding this particular issue.

[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1425144]I want to be clear about this. Cate advertised on this site and everywhere else. When she hit her peak as far as hobbyists she was doing, she should've taken her ads down. When you advertise as much as she did, it's a clear indication that you're making yourself available to hobbyists. Economics 101. Placing ads means you want business. When she finally did return a message to me, about 18 months after I first tried to contact her, I said "whatever." I don't know when she announced her retirement nor do I care. I just don't like reading on here that we hobbyists are going to miss her. I, for one, won't because I never saw her. No disrespect towards you, Fudge, but I guess I don't understand your post after reading it again. It was a previous post about her that pissed me off. That guy needs to be his own voice and say he's going to miss her. He shouldn't speak for all of us. My voice says otherwise and I'm seeing that others are agreeing with me.

Thanks,

BFDeal[/QUOTE]I won't disagree that Cate was a tough provider to get that first meeting with. It took me over a year to finally meet with her because I didn't have any references she knew. But once we met, she would always return my calls, texts and emails in a very timely fashion. Not once did she ever make it hard for me to schedule after she got to know me. She was just a very cautious woman because of all the dangers in the hobby. With some of the recent arrests in Indiana, who could blame a woman for being cautious. But I'm a strong believer that some of the greatest experiences in life don't come easy.

With all that being said, Cate was without a doubt one of the greatest providers the mid west ever had in my opinion. She was a sweet, caring, and beautiful provider that poured her heart into each and every session. I can honestly say that my sessions with her were the some of the greatest experiences of my life. I've never been around anyone that displayed so much passion. She was absolutely amazing in every way and I cherish the time we spent together.

For all the haters on this site, maybe the problem was you. I never once had any problems with her, but then again I always behaved like a perfect gentleman. She always treated me better than I ever expected a provider to. Maybe if some of you guys would treat these ladies better, you would get better results. I've read posts where some of the senior members feel like just because a they make a donation that the provider should kiss their behind in every way. Most of us men have jobs and get paid for doing work. If our bosses treat us like crap, do we give 110% at work just because we get a paycheck. NO! Now if our boss treats us great, gives us little perks once and a while, compliments our work and maybe gives us a bonus occasionally, then we work harder at what we do. Its only human nature. My gut tells me that all the Cate haters on here just don't know how to be a gentleman, because every time I was with her she treated me like I was the only man alive. And for those that don't know, she did retire back in February and has moved on with her life. She knew a lot of men through this hobby and made a lot of friends. But how does someone get on with their life and still maintain that contact. I think we all know that isn't realistic.

I personally miss her a lot and strongly feel that there will never be another provider that could ever replace her. Just my two cents worth.

I'm going to put my two cent in now! This is getting f'and ridiculous. The f'and novels and the detailed reviews like this need to stop! I'm up for a good review, but keep it f'and simple guys. There is no reason, for this much detail about your encounter with this provider. It just makes these providers a huger target to get busted. Trust me, it's not good. My old college roommate works with the Leo task force, so every now and then I get the 411 on what's going on. Yes, Leo's are all on the forums, etc and there reading reviews like this. There is a difference between an escort and prostitute. This is Hobby 101 guys, with an escort you're paying for their time only, and not for sex but whatever happens between two adults is your own damn business. This review gives, Leo more ammo to target this individual because it reeks of prostitute.

You guys need to keep in mind that these providers have lives outside of this. Most of the good providers, that hardly advertise have real professional jobs, and they really don't have to do this. That means they have a lot more to lose, if they get busted compared to some provider that does this for a living. The majority of you have a lot to lose as well, because I would say 80-90% of you guys on this forum are so called happily married / w kids. *

That being said we need to protect the good providers as much as we can, so we can still benefit from this fun hobby of ours. I was going to write more, and give examples, and what not but I decided not to. I just get frustrated when I see reviews like this. We are adults, no reason to get all geeky / girly after your encounter and get on the forums an author a best seller (No reason to be a Kidult). I take the words of my old roommate 'If we want to bust them someone we can with no problem, it's easy. We have the technology and personal to do so if we really wanted to get someone. We have a lot more of them working with use and for use then you think (providers). No one wants to go to jail over BS, they're just a phone call away. One word 'cooperation' It's not word for word, but you get the gist. After I heard him say that I was like 'wow, very interesting'.

At the end of the day you can do whatever you want to do, but I would advise to keep the reviews simple so we can all benefit from this fun hobby, in the long run. That's my 2 cents. Stay safe! Everyone.

[QUOTE=Dyoung35; 1427824]Good Afternoon Gentlemen,

With all of the debate over whether or not to submit such glowing reports of our beloved providers allow me to add my two cents:

I hadn't seen one of my ATFs for several months, so I was both surprised and excited when Miss Teresa sent me a message last week. She said she really missed me and longed for my big hard. (of course I didn't believe it, but it sounded nice to hear). I replied politely and we scheduled a time to get reacquainted.

Teresa met me at her door wearing nothing but lace panties and matching lace bra which perfectly accentuated her new physic. (I had not seen her since the breast reduction surgery and I am fond of large breasts, but without a doubt, she looks more natural and beautiful than ever). She pulled me in, locked the door and purred how much she had missed me. She immediately started to undo my pants and drop to her knees. Oh what a lusciously wet and enthusiastic BBBJ took place right there in her foyer. As I felt things build I knew I wanted this to last and we retired to her bedroom.

As usual, there was porn on the tv. She IS a horney little pervert! I had her lay across the bed with her head hanging off the edge and resumed sliding my rigid cock down her throat. All the while playing with her pussy and warming it up for its eventual pounding. Of course, she had one of her small toys handy and began teasing her tight little ass with it. She is so sexual! I wanted inside of her. I rolled he over, donned the necessary rain gear and proceeded to slip my raging cock into her tight, wet pussy. It didn't take long for her to beg me to f*k her ass. We continued pounding both of her honey pots. First doggie, then missionary, then her side ways, then I stood and rolled her up onto her shoulders and pill drove her into the mattress! I swear it was like we were making our own porn movie! When I couldn't hold back any more, she rolled to her knees in front of me, striped off the condom and proceeded to jack me off into her open and begging mouth!

My. How I love that women! Gentlemen, if you have never visited Teresa, you're making a big mistake. She is without a doubt one of the most sexual women I know. She loves it all. I have never heard her say "no" to any of my sexual perversions and I've seen her do some things to others that. Well. They certainly enjoyed it. As I mentioned earlier, I have a fondness for ample breasts. Nevertheless, Teresa's new shape is like that hot, petite cheerleader you always wanted to tag! Her perkey tits are a perfect fit.

Now, here's the clincher and the relevant reason for this very accurate post. Teresa's gift request is the same as it was when I first met her. Unlike Myla, or Abby (both wonderful women, one I know first hand) she hasn't jacked her prices with her popularity. She offers an amazing experience for a modest ($$) compensation of her time. Give her a call. You will NOT BE Disappointed!

Happy Hunting.

Daniel.

Ps. Teresa, Thanks again for shotin' me that text last week![/QUOTE]

I've never seen Cate but she sounds like a good provider. Problem is because a provider does a good acting job while with a hobbyist. The guy will start to think that he is special to her. Well a good provider will act the same with every guy she is with. I dated a provider for a few years. A guy would pull up and she would think,"well the show must go on" She kind of hated the guys, just a good actress. She did a great acting job with me. Some of the gifts that hobbyist left for her? Wine, Bird Feeder Ect Thanks, I enjoyed them! I still have the Bird Feeder. LOL.

Don't forget they are there with you for the $ Call one of your ATF and tell them that you don't have any money but would like a session. Let us know, how that works out

You tried for over a year to see her? WOW! Move on to the next one! Don't get a provider mixed up with a GF.

I wish her good luck but I've seen so many try to quit. 99% never make it. Most come back in less than a year. They get addicted to the easy money and high pay. They aren't going to make 1000 a day at a reg job.

But, she may find a sucker with some money?

[QUOTE=Larry Reiff; 1428261]I won't disagree that Cate was a tough provider to get that first meeting with. It took me over a year to finally meet with her because I didn't have any references she knew. But once we met, she would always return my calls, texts and emails in a very timely fashion. Not once did she ever make it hard for me to schedule after she got to know me. She was just a very cautious woman because of all the dangers in the hobby. With some of the recent arrests in Indiana, who could blame a woman for being cautious. But I'm a strong believer that some of the greatest experiences in life don't come easy.

With all that being said, Cate was without a doubt one of the greatest providers the mid west ever had in my opinion. She was a sweet, caring, and beautiful provider that poured her heart into each and every session. I can honestly say that my sessions with her were the some of the greatest experiences of my life. I've never been around anyone that displayed so much passion. She was absolutely amazing in every way and I cherish the time we spent together.

For all the haters on this site, maybe the problem was you. I never once had any problems with her, but then again I always behaved like a perfect gentleman. She always treated me better than I ever expected a provider to. Maybe if some of you guys would treat these ladies better, you would get better results. I've read posts where some of the senior members feel like just because a they make a donation that the provider should kiss their behind in every way. Most of us men have jobs and get paid for doing work. If our bosses treat us like crap, do we give 110% at work just because we get a paycheck. NO! Now if our boss treats us great, gives us little perks once and a while, compliments our work and maybe gives us a bonus occasionally, then we work harder at what we do. Its only human nature. My gut tells me that all the Cate haters on here just don't know how to be a gentleman, because every time I was with her she treated me like I was the only man alive. And for those that don't know, she did retire back in February and has moved on with her life. She knew a lot of men through this hobby and made a lot of friends. But how does someone get on with their life and still maintain that contact. I think we all know that isn't realistic.

I personally miss her a lot and strongly feel that there will never be another provider that could ever replace her. Just my two cents worth.[/QUOTE]

For most it is an illusion for an hour or whatever time you have. Have seen very few move on to marry or even date their clients off the clock Not saying it hasn't happened just not often. Most women in this have to do this, Cate's motivation was family LOTS of family. Nice lady though. The negatives of this far out weigh the positives if we are honest so NO most women don't really want to do this but most probably have to. The ones that get me are ladies who say they are college educated, have a great job but just like to do this for the companionship and meeting new friends GMAFB. REALLY? Don't think so. There are a lot of nice guys in this but your friend. As the guy said below, call up your ATF and ask her for a freebie. Have heard it has happened but rarely or at least in my experience. Find what you are looking for and keep it to a very few. There are way TOO many in this just barely making it and most aren't even doing that as each new crop appears on the horizon. Then drugs, pimps, and whatever else takes over and they fade away. Love the honesty on here and do agree that more descriptive info should be should be passed PM. As a good friend of mine in the past said, discretion, discretion, discretion, and my business is my business and is not for public consumption. Sounds good but hard to follow. Have a good day all and enjoy the coming weekend. BMack

I broke my own rule and gave Jennifer from NR another chance after getting stiffed on the first meeting (see previous post). We met without a hitch, and she is wonderful. Very young and very new to the hobby (only about a month a so). When I arrived a dude roomate hanging around but you don't really notice he's there, she's currently off of Shadeland but soon (next month) moving to the west side. She's sweet and there is absolutely no rushing. I enjoyed my time and will see her again.

Speaking of FoTM, anyone remember Brin Jaylin? She was the hottest of the hot. One year later. She is barely mentioned now. Maybe she made a smooth transition out of the biz?

[QUOTE=Osirusss;1428530]Speaking of FoTM, anyone remember Brin Jaylin? She was the hottest of the hot. One year later. She is barely mentioned now. Maybe she made a smooth transition out of the biz?[/QUOTE]Never got to see her, always wanted to. Then she ended up in some SB relationship and I lost track of her after that. Anyone know if she's still in, or is Osi right and she's off the market?

Red

B, these kinds of post as well as Mr. Mack really kind of take the fun and kinkiness out of a so called hobby. This is preciisly why I stopped wanting to do it in the first place, that and the break up of my partner in crime, however my kink and my love of other things brought me back. When I hear things like this it makes me feel like I need a shower and reminds me of things I would rather not think about. I understand that there is one part of this world however there IS another.

Posting jaded posts about your provider exgf kinda puts a damper on the suspension of disbelief we are all supose to have in order to let the good times roll. Just because some providers or the one you were with always put on a show that does not mean all of us do. Shit all anyone has to do is spend 10 minutes talking with me and you know I'm a huge nicey nicerton, doofus and smartass. I do not cater to anyone except in certain areas as some of you know! I enjoy all the time I spend with those with whom I choose to spend it with because I choose wisely through conversations and even those that are simply brief even those are fun! It's all kink to me with benefits of course. Which leads me to the freebie part of your post. I frequently gave discounts to my regulars (why do you think people are coming to Indy to see me since they have heard I have decided to Consult again) as far as freebies while no one I knew would ever be uncouth to do such a thing as to call and ask for a free consult, I did it of my own accord. Not frequently mind you as I was an elitist asshole and only saw very few regulars but they were rewarded in ways other than just saving a buck or two. I am a kinky, adventurous woman who loves to smile, laugh and have fun.

As far as gifts go, I think that it's kinda mean to giggle about how you enjoyed a hobbyists gifts. I recieved several things from my friendsies. Things that I needed. Things that I didn't need but were thoughtful and nice. It makes me extremely happy to know that I make someone happy enough, if only for a fleeting moment in time, that they would think of me later while cruising through Target or whereever and remember something that Pie needed or would like. With just a few genuine niceties, people will suprise you and you will suprise people. That is what I love about this hobby meeting new people, being dirty and bringing genuine happiness (to others and to myself). If only briefly LOL.

I may sound naive but it sure is fun and a part of myself I will never lose no matter what life throws at me or who.

Deep Thoughts by KB.

[QUOTE=Best Swimmer; 1428424]I've never seen Cate but she sounds like a good provider. Problem is because a provider does a good acting job while with a hobbyist. The guy will start to think that he is special to her. Well a good provider will act the same with every guy she is with. I dated a provider for a few years. A guy would pull up and she would think,"well the show must go on" She kind of hated the guys, just a good actress. She did a great acting job with me. Some of the gifts that hobbyist left for her? Wine, Bird Feeder Ect Thanks, I enjoyed them! I still have the Bird Feeder. LOL.

Don't forget they are there with you for the $ Call one of your ATF and tell them that you don't have any money but would like a session. Let us know, how that works out

You tried for over a year to see her? WOW! Move on to the next one! Don't get a provider mixed up with a GF.

I wish her good luck but I've seen so many try to quit. 99% never make it. Most come back in less than a year. They get addicted to the easy money and high pay. They aren't going to make 1000 a day at a reg job.

But, she may find a sucker with some money?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigMack;1428440]For most it is an illusion for an hour or whatever time you have. Have seen very few move on to marry or even date their clients off the clock Not saying it hasn't happened just not often. Most women in this have to do this, Cate's motivation was family LOTS of family. Nice lady though. The negatives of this far out weigh the positives if we are honest so NO most women don't really want to do this but most probably have to. The ones that get me are ladies who say they are college educated, have a great job but just like to do this for the companionship and meeting new friends GMAFB. REALLY? Don't think so. There are a lot of nice guys in this but your friend. As the guy said below, call up your ATF and ask her for a freebie. Have heard it has happened but rarely or at least in my experience. Find what you are looking for and keep it to a very few. There are way TOO many in this just barely making it and most aren't even doing that as each new crop appears on the horizon. Then drugs, pimps, and whatever else takes over and they fade away. Love the honesty on here and do agree that more descriptive info should be should be passed PM. As a good friend of mine in the past said, discretion, discretion, discretion, and my business is my business and is not for public consumption. Sounds good but hard to follow. Have a good day all and enjoy the coming weekend. BMack[/QUOTE]Maybe I missed it, but she just disappeared. And some of you got on Cate for her posted retirement. I don't get it.

[QUOTE=Best Swimmer; 1428424]I've never seen Cate but she sounds like a good provider. Problem is because a provider does a good acting job while with a hobbyist. The guy will start to think that he is special to her. Well a good provider will act the same with every guy she is with. I dated a provider for a few years. A guy would pull up and she would think,"well the show must go on" She kind of hated the guys, just a good actress. She did a great acting job with me. Some of the gifts that hobbyist left for her? Wine, Bird Feeder Ect Thanks, I enjoyed them! I still have the Bird Feeder. LOL.

Don't forget they are there with you for the $ Call one of your ATF and tell them that you don't have any money but would like a session. Let us know, how that works out

You tried for over a year to see her? WOW! Move on to the next one! Don't get a provider mixed up with a GF.

I wish her good luck but I've seen so many try to quit. 99% never make it. Most come back in less than a year. They get addicted to the easy money and high pay. They aren't going to make 1000 a day at a reg job.

But, she may find a sucker with some money?[/QUOTE]Swimmer, great post I was laughing through the whole thing, and I wouldn't change a thing. You are 100% right on! Kinky, great post I was laughing through the whole thing and I wouldn't change a thing. There are some out there who just honestly love this and can't believe they get PAID to indulge their fantasy, but it's OK to post that for most it's a job they detest that pays too well. I had so much I wanted to add, but I'd rather read Swimmers post again because every point I was going to make is in there.

Once a super close "friend" from another state kept calling and asking for money for a bill or a relative or whatever. I said why don't we "bank" a few sessions for free in advance, then when she needs money she can just call me and withdraw, like an ATM (thats a cash machine). What do you think her response was? I never heard from her again!

And having said all this, I'll take my $47 and go to Columbia thank you very much!

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[QUOTE=KinkyBroad; 1428543]B, these kinds of post as well as Mr. Mack really kind of take the fun and kinkiness out of a so called hobby. This is preciisly why I stopped wanting to do it in the first place, that and the break up of my partner in crime, however my kink and my love of other things brought me back. When I hear things like this it makes me feel like I need a shower and reminds me of things I would rather not think about. I understand that there is one part of this world however there IS another.

Posting jaded posts about your provider exgf kinda puts a damper on the suspension of disbelief we are all supose to have in order to let the good times roll. Just because some providers or the one you were with always put on a show that does not mean all of us do. Shit all anyone has to do is spend 10 minutes talking with me and you know I'm a huge nicey nicerton, doofus and smartass. I do not cater to anyone except in certain areas as some of you know! I enjoy all the time I spend with those with whom I choose to spend it with because I choose wisely through conversations and even those that are simply brief even those are fun! It's all kink to me with benefits of course. Which leads me to the freebie part of your post. I frequently gave discounts to my regulars (why do you think people are coming to Indy to see me since they have heard I have decided to Consult again) as far as freebies while no one I knew would ever be uncouth to do such a thing as to call and ask for a free consult, I did it of my own accord. Not frequently mind you as I was an elitist asshole and only saw very few regulars but they were rewarded in ways other than just saving a buck or two. I am a kinky, adventurous woman who loves to smile, laugh and have fun.

As far as gifts go, I think that it's kinda mean to giggle about how you enjoyed a hobbyists gifts. I recieved several things from my friendsies. Things that I needed. Things that I didn't need but were thoughtful and nice. It makes me extremely happy to know that I make someone happy enough, if only for a fleeting moment in time, that they would think of me later while cruising through Target or whereever and remember something that Pie needed or would like. With just a few genuine niceties, people will suprise you and you will suprise people. That is what I love about this hobby meeting new people, being dirty and bringing genuine happiness (to others and to myself). If only briefly LOL.

I may sound naive but it sure is fun and a part of myself I will never lose no matter what life throws at me or who.

Deep Thoughts by KB.[/QUOTE]Jesus Christ, is it just me or is intelligence and with and honesty just so fricking sexy?

[QUOTE=Ilapp;1429025]Jesus Christ, is it just me or is intelligence and with and honesty just so fricking sexy?[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. Very well put!

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[QUOTE=Mr Popular;1429013]Once a super close "friend" from another state kept calling and asking for money for a bill or a relative or whatever. I said why don't we "bank" a few sessions for free in advance, then when she needs money she can just call me and withdraw, like an ATM (thats a cash machine). What do you think her response was? I never heard from her again![/QUOTE]I was once gullible enough to get taken from the opposite direction. I paid for a few "appointments" in advance to help a "friend" out. How often do you think I got to see her after that? I'm sure you know the answer. Live and learn!

We all have our opinions, likes and dislikes. Mine are based on over two decades in the "hobby". Mine do not have to be yours or anyone elses but mine won't change from my post nor my experiences in this. Welcome back and best wishes. Enjoy your journey

[QUOTE=BigMack;1429087]We all have our opinions, likes and dislikes. Mine are based on over two decades in the "hobby". Mine do not have to be yours or anyone elses but mine won't change from my post nor my experiences in this. Welcome back and best wishes. Enjoy your journey[/QUOTE]Nowhere in my post did I suggest that you change your stance or opinion. Certainly given your "over two decades in the hobby" your opinions are etched in stone. I was simply stating my own opinions and thoughts on the subject from the other side of the proverbial coin. Or giving as Paul Harvey would say "the rest of the story."

Thank you Mr. Mack for the well wishes and I certainly will enjoy my journey!

Xo KB

Damn! Stanc, Varoom, and Sophie you have just been served, LOL! If this is true it looks like it might be a good time to retire, because this is f*the up. I've always heard bad things about Sophie, but this just puts the icing on the cake. I'll take Macy over Sophie any day, she is more natural. Indypleasures I wish you the best. Wow, going after the children, now that is messed up. It's amazing how low guys will go for some po-tang.

[QUOTE=Indypleasures; 1429022]Stance,

Why is it you just keep spreading your lies?

I am NOT banned here nor have I ever been.

I did not make any posts about Macy on NR as you claim. In fact I stood up for her against the person making such posts. I was on Macy's side in my posts. Read them again it is very obvious.

I never went after Sophie. Sophie came after me and my son...[/QUOTE]

I see that the wrath of a woman is nothing to be toyed with!

This board has more drama on it than a hot flash convention.

I'm nice and you said that you liked seeing me. Saw you twice this week. Was I an asshole?

This wasn't so much about my ex, just how guys forget this is a BUSINESS.

It was to hobbyist that forget the difference between GF and GFE. <-See the E?

I'm good "personal" friends with several providers in Florida and they have shared a lot of stories with me about this, Stalkers, Guys driving by there house all the time ect.

A hobbyist should be NICE to a provider but not fall in love!

As for gifts? Yes, I give things also. Wine, Perfume, Flowers, Gift Card. I Brought you a Milk Shake the other day and yes, I do tip a good provider. You're good but hard to tip when I spend 40 in gas each visit.

Guys just need to remember that it's their GFE for an hour or two. Some just forget that part! And fall in love with a PROVIDER because she's good at what she does and they start thinking it their GF!

How ever you want to say it, This is a business!

Read the post that I quoted, he sounded like he forgot that part.

Back to Business :0) Anyone have a good report?

[QUOTE=Best Swimmer; 1429126]I'm nice and you said that you liked seeing me. Saw you twice this week. Was I an asshole?

This wasn't so much about my ex, just how guys forget this is a BUSINESS.

It was to hobbyist that forget the difference between GF and GFE. <-See the E?

I'm good "personal" friends with several providers in Florida and they have shared a lot of stories with me about this, Stalkers, Guys driving by there house all the time ect.

A hobbyist should be NICE to a provider but not fall in love!

As for gifts? Yes, I give things also. Wine, Perfume, Flowers, Gift Card. I Brought you a Milk Shake the other day and yes, I do tip a good provider. You're good but hard to tip when I spend 40 in gas each visit.

Guys just need to remember that it's their GFE for an hour or two. Some just forget that part! And fall in love with a PROVIDER because she's good at what she does and they start thinking it their GF!

How ever you want to say it, This is a business!

Read the post that I quoted, he sounded like he forgot that part.[/QUOTE]All of the personal info could have been kept within the confines of pm. Please do not insinuate that I ever ask or expect anything more than I quote. You were nice with me that much is true and I do love strawberry milkshakes!

Do not presume yourself an expert on all providers simply because you are "friends" with women who do something they don't like. For some it isn't just a business, for most sure.

I will not engage you further on this topic or anything else.

Thank you.

[QUOTE=Best Swimmer;1429131]Back to Business :0) Anyone have a good report?[/QUOTE]I do, not sure I am going to, but I do, couple actually.

[QUOTE=Ilapp;1428232]You know TL I love you like a brother, but you are wrong, there is a time to talk and a time to shut up. That is a very important lesson that many could stand to learn. Moderation, consideration, discretion, and contemplation in all things. I am guilty more than most of having a big mouth and letting it run wild at times, but I am trying to do better. When needed or warranted, let er rip, but the old adage of "loose lips sink ships" is not without merit. I not referring to this particular set of circumstances, because I know that in this case the rationale for the pricing structure had absolutely nothing to do with all of this, that strategy is totally based and motivated on something else, but in the big picture would be more of my concern, not anything surrounding this particular issue.[/QUOTE]I'm not saying that every last detail needs to be your out there for all to see. My beef is with all these guys whining about doing reviews and driving up price. Its not up to me what they charge. But if a gal is just starting out, then I'm going to write a review if I want. If she can get that price, more powe to her.

Me, I'm not paying those higher rates. Thats my choice.

But for those to come on here and tell me not to post to keep her UTR, come on.

I love you too, ilapp. Now let's have a beer. I'm THRISTY!

Some 12 yr old humor that came to mind after I read this:

[QUOTE=Best Swimmer;1429126]I Brought you a Milk Shake the other day[/QUOTE]I give every provider a "Milk Shake" when we get together, but I don't see the need to boast about it.

[QUOTE=Best Swimmer;1429126]I Brought you a Milk Shake the other day[/QUOTE]Was it her favorite flavor, DNA?

[QUOTE=Best Swimmer;1429126]I Brought you a Milk Shake the other day[/QUOTE]Although you had to work hard to get it, you swallowed every drop!

Sorry if they were lame, but I saw a softball and had to swing. Back to the usual stupidity.

[QUOTE=Iamindyjo;1429117]Damn! Stanc, Varoom, and Sophie you have just been served, LOL! If this is true it looks like it might be a good time to retire, because this is f*the up. I've always heard bad things about Sophie, but this just puts the icing on the cake. I'll take Macy over Sophie any day, she is more natural. Indypleasures I wish you the best. Wow, going after the children, now that is messed up. It's amazing how low guys will go for some po-tang.[/QUOTE]As a provider, Sophie is top notch. I don't know much past that. But if I had to guess, Kristen and Sophie both most likely bare some blame for this drama. I saw Macy when she was UTR and she is a sweetheart. Maybe the sweetest provider I have ever seen.

[QUOTE=Iamindyjo;1429117]Damn! Stanc, Varoom, and Sophie you have just been served, LOL! If this is true it looks like it might be a good time to retire, because this is f*the up. I've always heard bad things about Sophie, but this just puts the icing on the cake. I'll take Macy over Sophie any day, she is more natural. Indypleasures I wish you the best. Wow, going after the children, now that is messed up. It's amazing how low guys will go for some po-tang.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the well wishes. All is finally as it should be. My only fear was that she would out me to my son right before he left with the military and I would be unable to repair the damage due to distance. I just stayed one step ahead at all times and checked the internet every morning and night. I googled any and all names she might use for me as the search.

I do not know Macy nor have I ever spoken to her. I just hated to see her go through the same thing.

As for Stanc. Karma Karma Karma. Had Stanc not tried to blame me yesterday for the Macy post I would have never had to post the blog link to show who was truly at fault.

That was not enough for Stanc. They then brought it to this board to create a problem so I once again had to clear it up.

Stanc. Had you just not been a busy body you probably would have been safe but I have a feeling Sophie isn't going to be too pleased that you not only once but twice created a situation with your lies for the truth be shown.

Hope you have no children Stanc. I have a feeling you are in big big trouble with Sophie.

Karma!

[QUOTE=Indypleasures;1429022]Varoom on this very board is the one that gave my sons name to Sophie. Children are off limits you idiot. Varoom I did put the email that you sent to SweetSophieSilk32 on this blog. Varoom you want to hate me then you hate me. But you do not go out and search someones childs name out and give it to other providers. What gave you that right? You are a horrible person for doing that. My son did nothing to you. Seriously, why would you seek out my son's name? That is bizarre and disturbing behaviour.[/QUOTE]How did Varoom get involved in this mess? Seems as though if I remember right. Kristen, aka Indypleasures, sent me a VERY threatening email about a yr ago. The email was on the order of; 'I am going to give you 24 hrs to do X and if you don't do what I am telling you to do, Varoom is going to be in big trouble'. Like trouble with her Atty kind of trouble. Hmmmm, Now when people threaten me like that I tend to get rather pissed off over it. Her sons name was NOT sought out specifically, but was obtained in public record along with hers, as a result of discovering civil legal action against her, et al. Also, for the record, we are not talking about little *children* here. The *children mentioned* is an adult, not a child. She makes it sound like someone was coming after her 3 yr old. The dramatics of that post are hilarious.

What is bizarre and disturbing was the email that she sent me. She had my email address from serveral years earlier, as a client of hers. (keeps those for leverage maybe) She then had the audacity of emailing me and threatening me to do something, or else? That is what is bizarre. She is entitled to her own opinions, but not her own facts. She doesn't quite tell the story accurately.

[QUOTE=IrishLaddie; 1429125]I see that the wrath of a woman is nothing to be toyed with!

This board has more drama on it than a hot flash convention.[/QUOTE]Good thing the firemenz are in town! I could use a proper hosing hahaha.

Couldn't resist my own 12yr old humor ha!

Don't you just love it when they keep your phone number or email address? I hope guys remember to use a monger phone and not their reg cell phones. Track phones are great but use a pay phone to activate it.

[QUOTE=Varoom; 1429519]How did Varoom get involved in this mess? Seems as though if I remember right. Kristen, aka Indypleasures, sent me a VERY threatening email about a yr ago. The email was on the order of; 'I am going to give you 24 hrs to do X and if you don't do what I am telling you to do, Varoom is going to be in big trouble'. Like trouble with her Atty kind of trouble. Hmmmm, Now when people threaten me like that I tend to get rather pissed off over it. Her sons name was NOT sought out specifically, but was obtained in public record along with hers, as a result of discovering civil legal action against her, et al. Also, for the record, we are not talking about little *children* here. The *children mentioned* is an adult, not a child. She makes it sound like someone was coming after her 3 yr old. The dramatics of that post are hilarious.

What is bizarre and disturbing was the email that she sent me. She had my email address from serveral years earlier, as a client of hers. (keeps those for leverage maybe) She then had the audacity of emailing me and threatening me to do something, or else? That is what is bizarre. She is entitled to her own opinions, but not her own facts. She doesn't quite tell the story accurately.[/QUOTE]

Gee, I guess I am a really bad boy? I never did mention Kristen aka Indypleasures in any post. She just jumped to that conclusion and went wacko.

[QUOTE=Best Swimmer; 1428424]Well a good provider will act the same with every guy she is with.[/QUOTE]1) a good provider knows more about men than you will ever know about women.

2) a good provider provides. A good barber cuts hair. They do so regardless of what they think of you.

3) That barber doesn't give everybody the same haircut. The provider sees men for all different reasons. And the good ones are nursemaids, confidants, psychologists, sounding boards, lovers, and mothers. As needed.

4) By definition, a woman who hates and hoodwinks every client is not a "good" provider.

[QUOTE]Don't forget they are there with you for the $ Call one of your ATF and tell them that you don't have any money but would like a session. Let us know, how that works out[/QUOTE]It's interesting how often this sage advice is offered by someone who talks about how "all" providers are just in it for the money. Maybe the experiment could include you thinking of women as people, not reverse ATM machines, or distinct from women in general or the rest of humanity, and see if you don't get something more in return.

Because in my experience, the sort of hobbyist who might get treated as though his money was no good in that establishment, occasionally, or permanently, is the sort who is always generous, considerate, and treats people like people, not as a (lower) class. And no, I'm not suggesting you try this on every 19-year-old BP bunny you shack up with for 30 minutes, nor that every delusional fool who thinks it's True Love is rational. I'm suggesting that maybe you're less than aware of the whole range of experience out there.

Saw an amazing girl today. She is friends with Miss Cake, wonderful body long and lean, super cool to talk to and I think would be an awesome person just to hang out with. Keep her and Miss Cake safe as they are 2 non drama people that I would like to keep around.

Have fun out there and stay safe.

[QUOTE=Stanc1940;1429735]Gee, I guess I am a really bad boy? I never did mention Kristen aka Indypleasures in any post. She just jumped to that conclusion and went wacko.[/QUOTE]Well, once upon a time, I posted a derogatory comment on here regarding her, and I got a nasty note about how she'd have Jackson remove my post as it was supposedly baseless. Guess what, the post is still up.

I had a vision that I saw ran in to Erika from City Girls today. In the vision it seemed like she had a fantastic body and was pretty, although seemed to taste like quite the smoker. I dreamed her performance was legendary. And if you happen to be able to catch her tomorrow while she is in town I suspect you'll find its worth the money if super nasty Russians who are all about bls and things further south than bls are your thing.

Nos

I agree with the first line of your post. Cate was tough to get a first meeting with. After that, the rest of your post goes downhill. You basically write that I'm not a gentleman. I've hung out with some of the best in the tri-state area (Abby, Jenna, Myla, Jamie, touring provider Kimberly Marie and Teresa here in Indy; Blue, Phoenix, Alyssa and Molly in Ky; and Alex, Olivia24, Tai before she became Jenae and the now retired jamielee in Ohio to name a few). Not one complaint from any of those I mentioned above. In fact, I get texts and e-mails from several of them on a regular basis asking when I'm free and hoping to schedule another appointment. Don't get confused with someone like Cate and the ones I mentioned above. The difference: all of the above returned an e-mail, text or phone call and Cate didn't. And Cate also advertised more than the others combined (except for Abby and blonde Jamie). Cautious? I sent her a handful of references. It's always something I do when I send that first e-mail. I forgot to mention, Cate was older than the others and I heard she hung out with LE, probably doing a cop or two in the meantime. Oh, I did get an e-mail from Cate about 18 months after I first contacted her. At that point I was like, fuck that, especially after hearing about the LE thing.

So just because you loved Cate, don't come on here with your eight posts and call us Cate haters. I can't say I hated her because I never met her. The way she conducted her biz? OK, I may have hated that and that's why I wrote good riddance. Other than that, why don't you get your facts straight before you come on here calling us haters who don't respect women? I have less respect for people who don't return texts or phone calls, MAN or woman, in business or as friends. It's that simple. And the LE thing, I heard that from a provider she did threesomes with Cate because Cate wanted a cop to join them one day. And that other provider said "no way." Bottom line: it was Cate. Not us hobbyists. That's the reason why she didn't hook up with some of us. She had a boatload (Titanic size) of regulars and didn't take down her ads, which would've avoided all of this. Or a simple return e-mail that said,"Sweetie, I'm not taking on new clients at this time."

That would've gotten her some respect.

BFDeal.

[QUOTE=Larry Reiff; 1428261]I won't disagree that Cate was a tough provider to get that first meeting with. It took me over a year to finally meet with her because I didn't have any references she knew. But once we met, she would always return my calls, texts and emails in a very timely fashion. Not once did she ever make it hard for me to schedule after she got to know me. She was just a very cautious woman because of all the dangers in the hobby. With some of the recent arrests in Indiana, who could blame a woman for being cautious. But I'm a strong believer that some of the greatest experiences in life don't come easy.

With all that being said, Cate was without a doubt one of the greatest providers the mid west ever had in my opinion. She was a sweet, caring, and beautiful provider that poured her heart into each and every session. I can honestly say that my sessions with her were the some of the greatest experiences of my life. I've never been around anyone that displayed so much passion. She was absolutely amazing in every way and I cherish the time we spent together.

For all the haters on this site, maybe the problem was you. I never once had any problems with her, but then again I always behaved like a perfect gentleman. She always treated me better than I ever expected a provider to. Maybe if some of you guys would treat these ladies better, you would get better results. I've read posts where some of the senior members feel like just because a they make a donation that the provider should kiss their behind in every way. Most of us men have jobs and get paid for doing work. If our bosses treat us like crap, do we give 110% at work just because we get a paycheck. NO! Now if our boss treats us great, gives us little perks once and a while, compliments our work and maybe gives us a bonus occasionally, then we work harder at what we do. Its only human nature. My gut tells me that all the Cate haters on here just don't know how to be a gentleman, because every time I was with her she treated me like I was the only man alive. And for those that don't know, she did retire back in February and has moved on with her life. She knew a lot of men through this hobby and made a lot of friends. But how does someone get on with their life and still maintain that contact. I think we all know that isn't realistic.

I personally miss her a lot and strongly feel that there will never be another provider that could ever replace her. Just my two cents worth.[/QUOTE]

For someone with a handle like this sure cares a BFdeal about little ole me.

Hum, yes, it is true. I only saw complete gentleman. Those that know and appreciate it when they have it good.

Too bad I didn't know you were such an expert on running a biz, I could have used a personal assistant and advice on how to run my own life! I shud have answered those damn emails! Heehe.

Threesome with a cop? Oh my! Now that sounds sexy as hell. Just make sure I get one that wears the uniform. Ummm ummmm ummmmm!

Kisses, xxx.

Cate

[QUOTE=BFDeal; 1430377]I agree with the first line of your post. Cate was tough to get a first meeting with. After that, the rest of your post goes downhill. You basically write that I'm not a gentleman. I've hung out with some of the best in the tri-state area (Abby, Jenna, Myla, Jamie, touring provider Kimberly Marie and Teresa here in Indy; Blue, Phoenix, Alyssa and Molly in Ky; and Alex, Olivia24, Tai before she became Jenae and the now retired jamielee in Ohio to name a few). Not one complaint from any of those I mentioned above. In fact, I get texts and e-mails from several of them on a regular basis asking when I'm free and hoping to schedule another appointment. Don't get confused with someone like Cate and the ones I mentioned above. The difference: all of the above returned an e-mail, text or phone call and Cate didn't. And Cate also advertised more than the others combined (except for Abby and blonde Jamie). Cautious? I sent her a handful of references. It's always something I do when I send that first e-mail. I forgot to mention, Cate was older than the others and I heard she hung out with LE, probably doing a cop or two in the meantime. Oh, I did get an e-mail from Cate about 18 months after I first contacted her. At that point I was like, fuck that, especially after hearing about the LE thing.

So just because you loved Cate, don't come on here with your eight posts and call us Cate haters. I can't say I hated her because I never met her. The way she conducted her biz? OK, I may have hated that and that's why I wrote good riddance. Other than that, why don't you get your facts straight before you come on here calling us haters who don't respect women? I have less respect for people who don't return texts or phone calls, MAN or woman, in business or as friends. It's that simple. And the LE thing, I heard that from a provider she did threesomes with Cate because Cate wanted a cop to join them one day. And that other provider said "no way." Bottom line: it was Cate. Not us hobbyists. That's the reason why she didn't hook up with some of us. She had a boatload (Titanic size) of regulars and didn't take down her ads, which would've avoided all of this. Or a simple return e-mail that said,"Sweetie, I'm not taking on new clients at this time."

That would've gotten her some respect.

BFDeal.[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry. I must have slept through that class. Is there really that big of a difference between an escort and a prostitute? So my defense would be;"Honest judge, I simply gave this stunningly beautiful women $$$ for a half hour of her time and then of her own accord she found my ugly, old ass irresistible and fucked the hell out of me!". That makes it legal? Besides, Teresa and I are consenting adults. She contacted me and said she missed my company. If I would have taken her electric bill and paid it, would that appease your "old college roommate"? Would they (leo) have no case if I said it was all a dream? Or how about short and sweet;"Jane Doe, one hour, $$, blew my mind!" Every "john" out there is going to want more details. So I added a little spice, a little enticing excitement. Does that make me "kidult"? Really? Well, I guess I did start reading Penthouse Forum when I was a teenager. And I, for one, still like reading it. Likewise, there are some very well written individuals on this forum and I thoroughly enjoy reading of their escapades. I would rather read that than the psychotic rants of some jilted prosti, excuse me, escort, and all the back and forth he said she said crap!

I do agree with one thing you, or your leo "friends" said. If they want to bust somebody, they can. It doesn't matter how I describe it. We are ALL here for one purpose! (Even you and your "friends") Which is a topic I thought of discussing, but will refrain. I simply want to read good stories and glean a little knowledge from everyone's experiences.

I apologize to all for adding an extra two cents. I will withdraw from the debate. And if necessary, keep my "kidult" stories to myself.

Happy Hunting.

Daniel.

[QUOTE=Iamindyjo; 1428275]I'm going to put my two cent in now! This is getting f'and ridiculous. The f'and novels and the detailed reviews like this need to stop! I'm up for a good review, but keep it f'and simple guys. There is no reason, for this much detail about your encounter with this provider. It just makes these providers a huger target to get busted. Trust me, it's not good. My old college roommate works with the Leo task force, so every now and then I get the 411 on what's going on. Yes, Leo's are all on the forums, etc and there reading reviews like this. There is a difference between an escort and prostitute. This is Hobby 101 guys, with an escort you're paying for their time only, and not for sex but whatever happens between two adults is your own damn business. This review gives, Leo more ammo to target this individual because it reeks of prostitute.

You guys need to keep in mind that these providers have lives outside of this. Most of the good providers, that hardly advertise have real professional jobs, and they really don't have to do this. That means they have a lot more to lose, if they get busted compared to some provider that does this for a living. The majority of you have a lot to lose as well, because I would say 80-90% of you guys on this forum are so called happily married / w kids. *

That being said we need to protect the good providers as much as we can, so we can still benefit from this fun hobby of ours. I was going to write more, and give examples, and what not but I decided not to. I just get frustrated when I see reviews like this. We are adults, no reason to get all geeky / girly after your encounter and get on the forums an author a best seller (No reason to be a Kidult). I take the words of my old roommate 'If we want to bust them someone we can with no problem, it's easy. We have the technology and personal to do so if we really wanted to get someone. We have a lot more of them working with use and for use then you think (providers). No one wants to go to jail over BS, they're just a phone call away. One word 'cooperation' It's not word for word, but you get the gist. After I heard him say that I was like 'wow, very interesting'.

At the end of the day you can do whatever you want to do, but I would advise to keep the reviews simple so we can all benefit from this fun hobby, in the long run. That's my 2 cents. Stay safe! Everyone.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=B Beall; 1429963]1) a good provider knows more about men than you will ever know about women.

By definition, a woman who hates and hoodwinks every client is not a "good" provider.

It's interesting how often this sage advice is offered by someone who talks about how "all" providers are just in it for the money. Maybe the experiment could include you thinking of women as people, not reverse ATM machines, or distinct from women in general or the rest of humanity, and see if you don't get something more in return.

Because in my experience, the sort of hobbyist who might get treated as though his money was no good in that establishment, occasionally, or permanently, is the sort who is always generous, considerate, and treats people like people, not as a (lower) class. And no, I'm not suggesting you try this on every 19-year-old BP bunny you shack up with for 30 minutes, nor that every delusional fool who thinks it's True Love is rational. I'm suggesting that maybe you're less than aware of the whole range of experience out there.[/QUOTE]Not here to argue with you. This will be my last on this subject.

1. A good provider will NOT tell you what they think of you. Do you really think a good provider likes everyone that they see? No but they are good and won't let you know it. That's why they are good!

They also have bad days just like us. But a good provider won't let you know, you're there to enjoy your hour.

2. I never said JUST FOR THE MONEY. They like sex also but Yes, it a business and they are with you for the $ I hope in your "experience" You have seen some very Hottt providers that if you met at a bar and they weren't providers. Do you REALLY think they would FUCK you? They wouldn't!

A provider will because you pay.

3. I NEVER SAID they are lower class. If you reread my post it said that I'm good friends with several and that means off WORKING hours. That means I know them in their personal lives. And I know several providers that also work reg "good" jobs and do this on the side. To enjoy sex and for extra money. If you saw them at a store you would never know that they did this but you sure as hell would be checking them out.

You may have more experience in the Indy market but that's because I just moved up here. More experience? I doubt that.

I see in your other post, that you're putting up names of who you've seen. Want me to put up name from Tampa? It's a hell of a lot bigger market than Indy.

4. I don't see any 19 Y / O LOL I try not to go under 30Y / O but up here there's not a big supply of those. Yes, I know there are some.

Everyone has their own opinion just don't read shit that's not there. Mine it's a business. And yes I'm very nice to all of the PROVIDERS that I see and I appreciate them for seeing me. Yours? They see you because your a sweetheart.

5. Never knew saying this was a business, would start so much shit. I know a hot blond in Tampa that did massage ending with BBBJCIM but then went to GFE. A reg of hers called and was pissed that she did this. Saying I thought we had a something special.

She did this because she likes sex and wanted to make more money. A BUSINESS, she could fuck any guy she wanted any place. She's that hottttr