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[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1107621]Any indication she'd do more than a HJ?[/QUOTE]She didn't use her hand very much with me. She wound up on top of me and put me between her legs for the HE (she used a good bit of oil) , simulating FS. She went as far as you can with body-to-body without actually being FS. There was a good bit of kissing too.
If you're not looking for oral or FS and the age thing doesn't bother you, it's a pretty nice experience.
I stopped by Fuji to see the K-chick named Apple, but mamasan said she is not working there anymore. Anybody know the whereabouts of this K-chick. She is about 5' to 5'2", slim about 120lbs to 130lbs tops, maybe 32A, cute round face, long straight hair, in her late 20s.
I know. I know. That describes about 50% of the chicks at the AMPs, but I thought I give it a shot to see if anyone else have seen her. I suspect she is working at another AMP.
No, just the oiled up slide as described, but I wasn't trying to see if she would do more. As someone said before you needent be a conversationalist. She talks plenty by herself.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1107621]Any indication she'd do more than a HJ?[/QUOTE]
I'm looking for a real massage with a HE any suggestions. I'm trying to leave in the next hour or two.
Just to mix things up for the holidays we decided to get two new Relaxation Jewels for ya.
All the way from Japan is Akika 26- standing about 5'4 with long black silky hair and a medium build. Not to skinny and not to fat. Ya know just right and of course Japanese my favorite.
And to warm your soul up we have some CoCo for ya. She is 22 very short with a hot looking Emo kind of thing going on. Super sexy and very sweet 4 sure. Anyway figured this would be a nice little Christmas gift for ya if your passing through Macon.
Happy Holidays,
Moe
[QUOTE=Jj3000;1107720]No, just the oiled up slide as described, but I wasn't trying to see if she would do more. As someone said before you needent be a conversationalist. She talks plenty by herself.[/QUOTE]Where can we find Lisa? Pics etc?
Ok, I think I will be heading down to Atlanta, January sometime.
What AMPs would you recommend? Which ones to avoid?
PM me, if you prefer.
Thanks in advance
[QUOTE=Humble81;1108032]Where can we find Lisa? Pics etc?[/QUOTE]She advertises in the therapeutic section of CL. The pics might be accurate. She's got a fairly nice figure for a woman her age, but her face definitely looks like a woman in her 50s.
[url]http://atlanta.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/rejuvenate-with-lisa/1571147[/url]
TOFTT Saturday night up at Fuji Spa on roswell road North Sandy Springs. I don't know what happend or if I had some bad luck but what a terrible terrible experience.
Head over there and get greeted by I would say late 30's spinner type. She brings me back to the room and asks hour or half, I said hour and gave the. 6 she says to undress and put on towel. I do that and sit and wait on the bench. 5 minutes comes by she says they are busy and do I want sauna. I said no just the shower is fine. 5 more minutes she comes back and takes me into the shower all huffing and puffing like she is upset about something. She gives me what feels like a grudge table shower she really got in my crack to well, got the twigs and berries then dried me. She kept getting pissed at me when she was drying me because she couldn't reach me (I am 6 foot 4).
She sends me in the Sauna for a few more minutes, and I am expecting. Praying for another girl. 10 minutes later she comes back takes me to the room, grabs my towel dries me again and has me lay down. Terrible no pressure no care rub down, then has me flip over. I flip over and she has me get up off the table and says I want a rub down. WHAT? So I rub her down for a minute or two and then head between her legs. I get blocked by her legs she moved so I couldn't play. Finally I jokingly tell her to flip, she flips and again I can't touch breast, or anything else I want. I ask her WTF is up and she mumbles some crap. I am pissed now. She hands me some baby oil and nods her head toward mr unhappy. She is expecting me to do it myself! I start rubbing one out planning to blow it on her face but she moves to chairs where she sits and pouts. I walked over to the chair and she moves to the table. Seriously. I could of gotten this shit at home. She never asked what I wanted, or made any attempt to do anything. I'll never go back to that place saw a cute young spinner on the way out but no way I'll go back.
Did I go to the wrong Fuji?
I'm a regular at this Sandy Springs Fuji and never had any problems. Always 60+100 FS regardless of the chick, and mamasan always tell the chicks to take care of me. You probably just caught this girl on a bad day. Did this K-chick have big man-mades like 36D? Or was she a small tit 32A type?
[QUOTE=Big Pun; 1108412]TOFTT Saturday night up at Fuji Spa on roswell road North Sandy Springs. I don't know what happend or if I had some bad luck but what a terrible terrible experience.
Head over there and get greeted by I would say late 30's spinner type. She brings me back to the room and asks hour or half, I said hour and gave the. 6 she says to undress and put on towel. I do that and sit and wait on the bench. 5 minutes comes by she says they are busy and do I want sauna. I said no just the shower is fine. 5 more minutes she comes back and takes me into the shower all huffing and puffing like she is upset about something. She gives me what feels like a grudge table shower she really got in my crack to well, got the twigs and berries then dried me. She kept getting pissed at me when she was drying me because she couldn't reach me (I am 6 foot 4).
She sends me in the Sauna for a few more minutes, and I am expecting. Praying for another girl. 10 minutes later she comes back takes me to the room, grabs my towel dries me again and has me lay down. Terrible no pressure no care rub down, then has me flip over. I flip over and she has me get up off the table and says I want a rub down. WHAT? So I rub her down for a minute or two and then head between her legs. I get blocked by her legs she moved so I couldn't play. Finally I jokingly tell her to flip, she flips and again I can't touch breast, or anything else I want. I ask her WTF is up and she mumbles some crap. I am pissed now. She hands me some baby oil and nods her head toward mr unhappy. She is expecting me to do it myself! I start rubbing one out planning to blow it on her face but she moves to chairs where she sits and pouts. I walked over to the chair and she moves to the table. Seriously. I could of gotten this shit at home. She never asked what I wanted, or made any attempt to do anything. I'll never go back to that place saw a cute young spinner on the way out but no way I'll go back.
Did I go to the wrong Fuji? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Big Pun; 1108412]TOFTT Saturday night up at Fuji Spa on roswell road North Sandy Springs. I don't know what happend or if I had some bad luck but what a terrible terrible experience.
Head over there and get greeted by I would say late 30's spinner type. She brings me back to the room and asks hour or half, I said hour and gave the. 6 she says to undress and put on towel. I do that and sit and wait on the bench. 5 minutes comes by she says they are busy and do I want sauna. I said no just the shower is fine. 5 more minutes she comes back and takes me into the shower all huffing and puffing like she is upset about something. She gives me what feels like a grudge table shower she really got in my crack to well, got the twigs and berries then dried me. She kept getting pissed at me when she was drying me because she couldn't reach me (I am 6 foot 4).
She sends me in the Sauna for a few more minutes, and I am expecting. Praying for another girl. 10 minutes later she comes back takes me to the room, grabs my towel dries me again and has me lay down. Terrible no pressure no care rub down, then has me flip over. I flip over and she has me get up off the table and says I want a rub down. WHAT? So I rub her down for a minute or two and then head between her legs. I get blocked by her legs she moved so I couldn't play. Finally I jokingly tell her to flip, she flips and again I can't touch breast, or anything else I want. I ask her WTF is up and she mumbles some crap. I am pissed now. She hands me some baby oil and nods her head toward mr unhappy. She is expecting me to do it myself! I start rubbing one out planning to blow it on her face but she moves to chairs where she sits and pouts. I walked over to the chair and she moves to the table. Seriously. I could of gotten this shit at home. She never asked what I wanted, or made any attempt to do anything. I'll never go back to that place saw a cute young spinner on the way out but no way I'll go back.
Did I go to the wrong Fuji? [/QUOTE]The big mistake was that you should have complained at the first sign of trouble. I have no problem wrapping a towel around myself, heading into the hallway and yelling for the mamasan. That usually does the trick. Then calmly explain what happened and what you expect, I. E, a different girl, money back, etc. Whatever you do in the future, don't take that shit from any provider. It'll only encourage her to do it again to someone else.
I was in the mood for some good stuff today so drove to FIB, nothing interested me, so I decided to actually go AMP-ing today. I've been to AMPs before but, not quite a regular. Started off with Oasis as I heard a few good things about them on here and thru some friends, and they are closer to where I live. Apparently only one girl was working there earlier tonite, probably around 32, I think she said her name was Lily, but she wasn't as well endowed for my liking, however the rest of the body was smokin' hot! I passed and asked Mamasan if another girl was working who was better endowed. She told me that no one else was working tonight, and grabbed me by the arm and practically pushed me out (normal?). Quite disappointed, I drove to Aroma Therapy as I have had previous experience there.
It looked like the Mamasan there has changed. She said she would send me the best girl she had, that got little John's hopes pretty high, and in walked an older one (about 50, short and stout) , pretty pissed, I asked for another girl, someone a little younger maybe and she sent in this one woman who looked like a freakin' trannie! I have seen her walking out of rooms on my previous visits (I guess no one wants her.). With the kind of luck I was having today, I decided not to stop by Gold's.
There's still a lot left in the night. So if any of you guys want to suggest me one in the area, I would really appreciate that. I know I am not a senior member yet, but I will give you digits of a couple of SWs for returning the favor.
[QUOTE=Azianbeaver; 1107576]Happened to be on Peachtree Industrial Blvd, and thought I would give it a shot. It was about 4:15pm today, Saturday, and the door was locked. Sign was "open", but apparently in session. As I was walking away, a buxom black chick opened the door and asked if I could come back in about 45 minutes. I passed, but may want to check it out again if in the area.
Anyone out there have any information on this place? I saw a review somewhere that mentioned incidentals. Here is a link, and the rack on the top (2) photo's looked the same as the lady that opened the door Ginormous!
[url]http://atlanta.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/fire-massage-blasting-massage-the-most-exotic-girls-satisfy-your-needs/7227187[/url]
[/QUOTE]I TOFTT and went to nukoa day spa last night. They do offer extras there but it's all more money. Don't know if they'll be in business long as they are in an area with all kinds of businesses around and LE is trying to crack down on these places in gwinnett. I only saw two black women in there but I overheard a white woman also talking in there. Good luck with this place everybody.
Just for laughs, this afternoon I printed off a four-color copy of their internet ad and headed over to Oasis spa. I walked in and showed the mamasan the ad and pointed to the girl I wanted to see, a beautiful Asian girl who was spilling out of her bikini top.
The mamasan looked up at me and frowned. 'She no here today. '
'Maybe I should come back tomorrow, ' I said.
'She not back tomorrow. She on vacation. '
I pointed to another girl in the ad, a real stunner whose panties barely covered her ass. 'How about her? '
'She not here either. '
This was surprising news. 'Maybe she's on vacation with this girl, ' I suggested.
Apparently, none of the girls in the ad were working today. Instead, after I waited in the room about five minutes, this skinny, thoroughly unattractive 40-year-old woman dressed like a 14-year-old girl showed up. The internet ad was obviously just a big, fake tease. On my way to the exit, the mamasam ragged at me in pidgin English about wasting her time. She also complained that I had plugged up her toilet, which was true enough.
Next I headed over to Elite Spa off Roswell. This time a 35ish woman with large fake jugs came in the room. Since I was tired of driving, I agreed to the $60 room fee. Her name was (pick one of ten K-girl names: Anna, Jade, Candy, etc.) She did a decent TS. If your idea of a great massage is five minutes of painful lotion rubbing, this woman was a master masseuse. On the plus side, she did a good job teasing both balls and one nipple on the back end of the massage.
On the flip, I made the international symbol for an HJ with a Russian finish, handed over $60 and she got to work. She did an okay job. To her credit, once I got her laying on her back for the Russian, she did some fake clit rubbing and even added a little shuddering and moaning – not terribly convincing, but still. Her tits were full Cs, but so phony they couldn't be smushed together for a decent Russian, so instead I asked if she would let me teabag her. She made the international symbol for no fuckin way, so instead I pretended I was going to pop on her tits and at the last instant pulled up so I shot her in the face. That's a little dish I like to call, Cream o' some ol' guy.
I probably wouldn't repeat or recommend, but if you like large fake cans and a reasonably accommodating attitude at low, low prices, Jade may be your gal.
[QUOTE=Captain Howdy; 1109135]Just for laughs, this afternoon I printed off a four-color copy of their internet ad and headed over to Oasis spa. I walked in and showed the mamasan the ad and pointed to the girl I wanted to see, a beautiful Asian girl who was spilling out of her bikini top.
The mamasan looked up at me and frowned. 'She no here today. '
'Maybe I should come back tomorrow, ' I said.
'She not back tomorrow. She on vacation. '
I pointed to another girl in the ad, a real stunner whose panties barely covered her ass. 'How about her? '
'She not here either. '
This was surprising news. 'Maybe she's on vacation with this girl, ' I suggested.
Apparently, none of the girls in the ad were working today. Instead, after I waited in the room about five minutes, this skinny, thoroughly unattractive 40-year-old woman dressed like a 14-year-old girl showed up. The internet ad was obviously just a big, fake tease. On my way to the exit, the mamasam ragged at me in pidgin English about wasting her time. She also complained that I had plugged up her toilet, which was true enough.
Next I headed over to Elite Spa off Roswell. This time a 35ish woman with large fake jugs came in the room. Since I was tired of driving, I agreed to the $60 room fee. Her name was (pick one of ten K-girl names: Anna, Jade, Candy, etc.) She did a decent TS. If your idea of a great massage is five minutes of painful lotion rubbing, this woman was a master masseuse. On the plus side, she did a good job teasing both balls and one nipple on the back end of the massage.
On the flip, I made the international symbol for an HJ with a Russian finish, handed over $60 and she got to work. She did an okay job. To her credit, once I got her laying on her back for the Russian, she did some fake clit rubbing and even added a little shuddering and moaning – not terribly convincing, but still. Her tits were full Cs, but so phony they couldn't be smushed together for a decent Russian, so instead I asked if she would let me teabag her. She made the international symbol for no fuckin way, so instead I pretended I was going to pop on her tits and at the last instant pulled up so I shot her in the face. That's a little dish I like to call, Cream o' some ol' guy.
I probably wouldn't repeat or recommend, but if you like large fake cans and a reasonably accommodating attitude at low, low prices, Jade may be your gal. [/QUOTE]Outstanding report! How did you jam the shitter? Toilet paper? Reminds me of 20 years ago when I was in Korea. Was with my then-girlfriend at a nice restaurant in Seoul. They still had the old-style Asian toilets that are basically a rectangular porcelain device set in the floor. You straddle it, squat and do your business. Then there's a tank located on an upper wall with a pull chain for gravity flushing. That particular day I took a massive dump and it would not flush; simply too much weight and it was apparently stuck. I came out of the bathroom laughing my ass off with several restaurant employees wondering what the fuck I was laughing about. They would find out soon enough.
Glad you confronted the mamasan at Oasis about the face pics. The only thing I would have added was to tell the mamasan that you had called an hour earlier and were told that the girls in the pics were there, so you rushed over to see them. Then proceed to give her shit about lying to you and just carry on until she throws you out.
Most guys I know act like gentlemen when visiting an AMP because they're going to get laid so are in a good mood. And, most guys will treat the provider well if she gives good service. However, we as customers don't need to put up with their bullshit so I'm always happy to hear when guys "retaliate" to a degree when they get fucked over. I really get tired of the one-sided shit that mamasans and providers try to pull. Time for more guys to do the same types of things that you did.
I always recommend when dealing with shitty Asian providers to pretend to act overly nice. For example, if you blow a wad on the woman's face, pretend you're terribly sorry, grab a towel or something before she has time to react and pretend to wipe it off, but actually smear it around. Asians generally don't know how to react to such bumbling kindness because, in their societies, it's rude to get pissed at someone who's trying to help you. So, feel free to act like a friendly but stupid oaf. You get the last laugh.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr; 1109186]Outstanding report! How did you jam the shitter? Toilet paper? Reminds me of 20 years ago when I was in Korea. Was with my then-girlfriend at a nice restaurant in Seoul. They still had the old-style Asian toilets that are basically a rectangular porcelain device set in the floor. You straddle it, squat and do your business. Then there's a tank located on an upper wall with a pull chain for gravity flushing. That particular day I took a massive dump and it would not flush; simply too much weight and it was apparently stuck. I came out of the bathroom laughing my ass off with several restaurant employees wondering what the fuck I was laughing about. They would find out soon enough.[/QUOTE]What about the ones that didn't even have a flusher in the GI clubs? Just dropped in to somewhere? And the clubs bathroom was often just a bathroom (as in 1 room) and the korean women would come in and walk past you giggling while you were standing there pissing. Took some getting used to. Those were the days.
Too fucking funny, upper deckers can be added to the repertoire.
[QUOTE=Captain Howdy; 1109135]Just for laughs, this afternoon I printed off a four-color copy of their internet ad and headed over to Oasis spa. I walked in and showed the mamasan the ad and pointed to the girl I wanted to see, a beautiful Asian girl who was spilling out of her bikini top.
The mamasan looked up at me and frowned. 'She no here today. '
'Maybe I should come back tomorrow, ' I said.
'She not back tomorrow. She on vacation. '
I pointed to another girl in the ad, a real stunner whose panties barely covered her ass. 'How about her? '
'She not here either. '
This was surprising news. 'Maybe she's on vacation with this girl, ' I suggested.
Apparently, none of the girls in the ad were working today. Instead, after I waited in the room about five minutes, this skinny, thoroughly unattractive 40-year-old woman dressed like a 14-year-old girl showed up. The internet ad was obviously just a big, fake tease. On my way to the exit, the mamasam ragged at me in pidgin English about wasting her time. She also complained that I had plugged up her toilet, which was true enough.
Next I headed over to Elite Spa off Roswell. This time a 35ish woman with large fake jugs came in the room. Since I was tired of driving, I agreed to the $60 room fee. Her name was (pick one of ten K-girl names: Anna, Jade, Candy, etc.) She did a decent TS. If your idea of a great massage is five minutes of painful lotion rubbing, this woman was a master masseuse. On the plus side, she did a good job teasing both balls and one nipple on the back end of the massage.
On the flip, I made the international symbol for an HJ with a Russian finish, handed over $60 and she got to work. She did an okay job. To her credit, once I got her laying on her back for the Russian, she did some fake clit rubbing and even added a little shuddering and moaning – not terribly convincing, but still. Her tits were full Cs, but so phony they couldn't be smushed together for a decent Russian, so instead I asked if she would let me teabag her. She made the international symbol for no fuckin way, so instead I pretended I was going to pop on her tits and at the last instant pulled up so I shot her in the face. That's a little dish I like to call, Cream o' some ol' guy.
I probably wouldn't repeat or recommend, but if you like large fake cans and a reasonably accommodating attitude at low, low prices, Jade may be your gal. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1109186]I always recommend when dealing with shitty Asian providers to pretend to act overly nice. For example, if you blow a wad on the woman's face, pretend you're terribly sorry, grab a towel or something before she has time to react and pretend to wipe it off, but actually smear it around.[/QUOTE]Nite,
Good advice! Maybe I'll combine this with the approach you took earlier when you wiped your goo into the carpet with your shoe. Next time the provider makes me mad, I'll pop on her face then smear my goo on her face with my shoe while telling her "me so sorry, me so sorry."
Cap'and Howdy
[QUOTE=Big Money;1108487]I'm a regular at this Sandy Springs Fuji and never had any problems. Always 60+100 FS regardless of the chick, and mamasan always tell the chicks to take care of me. You probably just caught this girl on a bad day. Did this K-chick have big man-mades like 36D? Or was she a small tit 32A type?[/QUOTE]She smaller probably 32A.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1108540]The big mistake was that you should have complained at the first sign of trouble. I have no problem wrapping a towel around myself, heading into the hallway and yelling for the mamasan. That usually does the trick. Then calmly explain what happened and what you expect, I. E, a different girl, money back, etc. Whatever you do in the future, don't take that shit from any provider. It'll only encourage her to do it again to someone else.[/QUOTE]I complained to her. Asked for another girl. I didn't see a mamasan. Was expecting it. But didn't see her. I was fucking pissed man. I can't even tell you.
Hey, it's your good pal, Dr. Lovenstein once more. I had the opportunity to check out Oasis Spa on Northside Drive in Midtown today. It's definitely a comfortable place, with nice theécor. They have a sauna and steamroom in addition to the usual selection of amenities. Beds are heated with electric blankets.
My session was with Sanma. This lady has a few years on her, not normally my type. She's got a decent little body that's tight in all the right places. I will say that she really knows her trade. She was professional, but not cold or clinical, and worked hard. She knows what to do with herself to satisfy a man. Even gives a halfway decent massage. I was not asked for money up front, but ended up paying $.8. Check it out if you're in the area.
[QUOTE=Captain Howdy; 1109363]
Good advice! Maybe I'll combine this with the approach you took earlier when you wiped your goo into the carpet with your shoe. Next time the provider makes me mad, I'll pop on her face then smear my goo on her face with my shoe while telling her "me so sorry, me so sorry."
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[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1109186]Most guys I know act like gentlemen when visiting an AMP because they're going to get laid so are in a good mood. And, most guys will treat the provider well if she gives good service. However, we as customers don't need to put up with their bullshit so I'm always happy to hear when guys "retaliate" to a degree when they get fucked over. I really get tired of the one-sided shit that mamasans and providers try to pull. Time for more guys to do the same types of things that you did.[/QUOTE]I guess I'm an old-fashion gentleman because I like to be a regular. If your goal is to hop around to piss off providers and never see them again, sure you get your snickers and your ya-yas out. But I go by the golden rule, and treat the lady how I would want to be treated. I'm always fair, and many times I like to give the lady a second try. I will tell them if they want me back, this is what she needs to change or do. It doesn't hurt to be nice, and you've already paid. What can I do to get better service in the long-term? I don't find being rude as helping to get my money's worth.
In fact, most of the regulars I had in Houston were former AMPs. But I show them respect, and they want me as a regular client when they move to their own apartments. And as they move on to regular jobs and provide on the side for extra cash, I become one of their exclusives. As a result, I have a list of at least 5 chicks that I can get un-timed FS for 60-100 and overnight with for 200-250, and that includes a nice home-cooked meal. I don't even get a hotel room when I go visit Houston sometimes as I just stay with them. And this is true GFE.
But I was hoping to build similar client-provider relationships here, but maybe Atlanta is different?
[QUOTE=Big Money; 1109611]I guess I'm an old-fashion gentleman because I like to be a regular. If your goal is to hop around to piss off providers and never see them again, sure you get your snickers and your ya-yas out. But I go by the golden rule, and treat the lady how I would want to be treated. I'm always fair, and many times I like to give the lady a second try. I will tell them if they want me back, this is what she needs to change or do. It doesn't hurt to be nice, and you've already paid. What can I do to get better service in the long-term? I don't find being rude as helping to get my money's worth.
In fact, most of the regulars I had in Houston were former AMPs. But I show them respect, and they want me as a regular client when they move to their own apartments. And as they move on to regular jobs and provide on the side for extra cash, I become one of their exclusives. As a result, I have a list of at least 5 chicks that I can get un-timed FS for 60-100 and overnight with for 200-250, and that includes a nice home-cooked meal. I don't even get a hotel room when I go visit Houston sometimes as I just stay with them. And this is true GFE.
But I was hoping to build similar client-provider relationships here, but maybe Atlanta is different? [/QUOTE]No, Atlanta isn't different from any other locale.
I can agree with most of what you said, as I said basically the same in different words. What I would disagree on is giving a provider a second chance if she has a shitty atttitude the first time. As a paying customer, I don't need a bad attitude from a provider. The mamasan needs to discipline such providers and provide adequate compensation to the customer at the time of the incident. Promises such as,"Next time I give you better girl," are insufficient. I often go back to the same AMP but choose a different girl as one bad apple won't necessarily sour my impression of an AMP; however, I'd rather take a chance with a fresh face than to go with a known bytch. Returning to the same AMP (but not necessarily the same girl) does build a good rapport with mamasan and the girls. Eventually, if the bad apple continues her shitty service, mamasan will likely get rid of her.
At no time have I ever encouraged guys to fuck with a provider just for the hell of it. I'm a firm believer in fair play, so I go in acting like a nice guy. It takes a bytch to change my good nature.
And, to put this in a better perspective, reverse the situation for a moment. Say you own a home remodeling business. Someone forks out their hard earned cash to you to remodel their kitchen, you completely fuck it up and then refuse to correct your mistakes. How likely are they to hire you again? Not only will they never hire you again, they're going to pass the word on to their friends (in this case USASG).
[QUOTE=Niteluvr;1109670]As a paying customer, I don't need a bad attitude from a provider. The mamasan needs to discipline such providers and provide adequate compensation to the customer at the time of the incident. Promises such as,"Next time I give you better girl," are insufficient. I often go back to the same AMP but choose a different girl as one bad apple won't necessarily sour my impression of an AMP; however, I'd rather take a chance with a fresh face than to go with a known bytch. Returning to the same AMP (but not necessarily the same girl) does build a good rapport with mamasan and the girls. Eventually, if the bad apple continues her shitty service, mamasan will likely get rid of her.[/QUOTE]Then give the girl and mamasan fair feedback instead of playing games with the lady by smearing cum on her, etc. Most of the ladies don't want to be there, and would quit given other options. Even if you never see the girl again, she doesn't learn anything except what jerks customers can be, which you became just an extra stress on her--which I don't understand how you can be proud of?
[QUOTE=Captain Howdy; 1109135]Next I headed over to Elite Spa off Roswell. This time a 35ish woman with large fake jugs came in the room. Since I was tired of driving, I agreed to the $60 room fee. Her name was (pick one of ten K-girl names: Anna, Jade, Candy, etc.) She did a decent TS. If your idea of a great massage is five minutes of painful lotion rubbing, this woman was a master masseuse. On the plus side, she did a good job teasing both balls and one nipple on the back end of the massage.
On the flip, I made the international symbol for an HJ with a Russian finish, handed over $60 and she got to work. She did an okay job. To her credit, once I got her laying on her back for the Russian, she did some fake clit rubbing and even added a little shuddering and moaning – not terribly convincing, but still. Her tits were full Cs, but so phony they couldn't be smushed together for a decent Russian, so instead I asked if she would let me teabag her. She made the international symbol for no fuckin way, so instead I pretended I was going to pop on her tits and at the last instant pulled up so I shot her in the face. That's a little dish I like to call, Cream o' some ol' guy. [/QUOTE]So what started all this was that she did not want to teabag, but she seemed to have performed well enough everything else. Well I know Jay and she can be very sweet albeit a little proud at times, but that is no reason to degrade her. Maybe if you respected her and give her a chance to like you, then she might go for it next time. But by being a jerk, you made sure there won't be a next time on your part or her's.
The better analogy to the home remodeling business is that you thought you did a good job, but your customer just threw you a lawsuit. Well, would it not have been better if you just had the customer complain to you first and you can decide how to make up for it instead of addressing it in a court of law? Because all you are thinking is that customer is more trouble than its worth and would never work for them again.
[QUOTE=Big Pun;1109532]I complained to her. Asked for another girl. I didn't see a mamasan. Was expecting it. But didn't see her. I was fucking pissed man. I can't even tell you.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Big Pun;1109531]She smaller probably 32A.[/QUOTE]It sounds like the K-chick Apple. I can't find her now (but that is another thread).
Something was probably on her mind for her to be in a bad mood. I have Fuji's number on speed dial. If I could not find mamasan, I would have called up because mamasan usually answers the phone. If you were a regular and mamasan and the K-chicks knew you, then there is little chance of this happening.
But if you were new and had sensed a bad vibe to start with while sitting in the sauna, then I would ask her if anything is wrong? If I still can't get any response, I would just say something like my shoulders really hurt and forget about tipping any extras, and not even worry about flipping. When she tells you to flip, just say can you walk on my back?
This is the reason why I try to develop a regular relationship with some of these places so stuff like that won't happen. Remember some of these places are still a little cautious about new customers as LE busts were only a couple months ago.
[QUOTE=Big Money; 1109685]Then give the girl and mamasan fair feedback instead of playing games with the lady by smearing cum on her, etc. Most of the ladies don't want to be there, and would quit given other options. Even if you never see the girl again, she doesn't learn anything except what jerks customers can be, which you became just an extra stress on her-which I don't understand how you can be proud of?
So what started all this was that she did not want to teabag, but she seemed to have performed well enough everything else. Well I know Jay and she can be very sweet albeit a little proud at times, but that is no reason to degrade her. Maybe if you respected her and give her a chance to like you, then she might go for it next time. But by being a jerk, you made sure there won't be a next time on your part or her's.
The better analogy to the home remodeling business is that you thought you did a good job, but your customer just threw you a lawsuit. Well, would it not have been better if you just had the customer complain to you first and you can decide how to make up for it instead of addressing it in a court of law? Because all you are thinking is that customer is more trouble than its worth and would never work for them again. [/QUOTE]I'll try to explain.
Again, I am a customer and when I negotiate a specific extra for a specific price, it's expected that the provider deliver that service. Ex: $60 nude HJ and cum on her tits. If, during that scenario she decides to give a lame HJ then suggests I finish myself or suddenly refuses to let me cum on her tits, she's wrong. It's as simple as that. At the first sign of trouble, if I know the mamasan well, I might call her into the room and tell her what's wrong. That's fair feedback. At that point I would expect mamasan to make an on-the-spot correction in the form of telling the girl to get her shit together or refund a portion of my money, whichever I prefer. On the other hand, if I believe I'm going to get the runaround and a lame excuse, then by all means I might shift gears and cum on her face. Who's the jerk? She is. She failed to perform an agreed-upon act. It's just that simple.
In reference to your point about the other monger's encounter with Jay, I would say this: I have never met Jay, but when I hear comments like she can be 'a little proud at times, ' it reminds me of providers who have a shitty attitude, don't want to do what they agreed to do and whine if they don't get everything their way. That type of one-sidedness needs to go.
Comments such as, 'Most of the ladies don't want to be there, and would quit given other options, ' are those of a biased, bleeding heart. If a provider doesn't want to be there, she knows where the door is. Nobody forced her at gunpoint to take the job; therefore, she can leave anytime she chooses.
My home remodeling example stands as I originally stated it, as does my AMP scenario of negotiating a specific act for a specific price: Everyone knows what's expected. If the home remodeler agreed to a standard, he needs to provide it. If the provider fails to do her part, she's dead wrong. There's no gray area here as you seem to imply.
To Azianbeaver: Ok, the link's first pic is on 35 different websites, so fake. The third pic is on some rapper's site. Again, fake. I would proceed with caution. I suggest getting tineye for your browser. It might save you time, effort, and getting pinched.
Again, I will ask, the best AMPs are? I am getting a good view of the poor ones. .
[QUOTE=Azianbeaver; 1107576]Happened to be on Peachtree Industrial Blvd, and thought I would give it a shot. It was about 4:15pm today, Saturday, and the door was locked. Sign was "open", but apparently in session. As I was walking away, a buxom black chick opened the door and asked if I could come back in about 45 minutes. I passed, but may want to check it out again if in the area.
Anyone out there have any information on this place? I saw a review somewhere that mentioned incidentals. Here is a link, and the rack on the top (2) photo's looked the same as the lady that opened the door Ginormous!
[url]http://atlanta.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/fire-massage-blasting-massage-the-most-exotic-girls-satisfy-your-needs/7227187[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Mtl Pig; 1109791]To Azianbeaver: Ok, the link's first pic is on 35 different websites, so fake. The third pic is on some rapper's site. Again, fake. I would proceed with caution. I suggest getting tineye for your browser. It might save you time, effort, and getting pinched.
Again, I will ask, the best AMPs are? I am getting a good view of the poor ones. . [/QUOTE]The pics on the site are fake but they do have some good looking black girls there.
[QUOTE=Jimmia;1109218]What about the ones that didn't even have a flusher in the GI clubs? Just dropped in to somewhere? And the clubs bathroom was often just a bathroom (as in 1 room) and the korean women would come in and walk past you giggling while you were standing there pissing. Took some getting used to. Those were the days.[/QUOTE]Brings back memories. The non-flushers were basically an indoor outhouse. Straddle, squat, shit, wipe and leave. Then the honey wagon (shit truck) would come every few weeks to suck out the shit via a long hose. One time when I was a young LT I had awakened in the early a. M. To the most horrendous stench one could imagine. The windows on my Korean house were fully closed, yet the stench of the honey wagon was so strong it woke me up. I had to wake up anyway to go to work so I left the house, walked toward the main road and basically gagged as I tried to run past the honey wagon; the smell was just that bad. They were sucking shit out of my neighbor's indoor outhouse, which was a good 100-plus yards away from the truck. I couldn't understand how the Korean dude on top of the truck could stand it. His job was to stand over the inlet hole atop the tank on the truck and ensure that the hose stayed in the hole. Talk about a shitty job!
Yeah, I remember those unisex bathrooms, even in nice hotels, where there were several shitter stalls and you had to knock on the door and listen for a response to know if someone was in there. If there was a decent gap between the door and frame one might catch a glimpse of a squatting Korean pussy. Then there was the small partition between the urinal and the sink area where a woman could be washing her hands while a dude was taking a piss only a few feet away. Quite often the Korean ladies would get curious to see a foreigner's dick and try to cop a glimpse via the reflection in the mirror or a direct look. In those days most Korean woman had never seen an American dick and were quite curious. A good buddy got a date that way.
Yep, those were the days. I'd give almost anything to do another year back then when a bar of American Ivory soap could buy a nice fuck. No breast implants, hot women and as much free pussy as one could want. The worst worry was Gonorrhea which was easily cured at the dispensary the following morning.
Marketing 101, the customer cums first.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr; 1109773]I'll try to explain.
Again, I am a customer and when I negotiate a specific extra for a specific price, it's expected that the provider deliver that service. Ex: $60 nude HJ and cum on her tits. If, during that scenario she decides to give a lame HJ then suggests I finish myself or suddenly refuses to let me cum on her tits, she's wrong. It's as simple as that. At the first sign of trouble, if I know the mamasan well, I might call her into the room and tell her what's wrong. That's fair feedback. At that point I would expect mamasan to make an on-the-spot correction in the form of telling the girl to get her shit together or refund a portion of my money, whichever I prefer. On the other hand, if I believe I'm going to get the runaround and a lame excuse, then by all means I might shift gears and cum on her face. Who's the jerk? She is. She failed to perform an agreed-upon act. It's just that simple.
In reference to your point about the other monger's encounter with Jay, I would say this: I have never met Jay, but when I hear comments like she can be 'a little proud at times, ' it reminds me of providers who have a shitty attitude, don't want to do what they agreed to do and whine if they don't get everything their way. That type of one-sidedness needs to go.
Comments such as, 'Most of the ladies don't want to be there, and would quit given other options, ' are those of a biased, bleeding heart. If a provider doesn't want to be there, she knows where the door is. Nobody forced her at gunpoint to take the job; therefore, she can leave anytime she chooses.
My home remodeling example stands as I originally stated it, as does my AMP scenario of negotiating a specific act for a specific price: Everyone knows what's expected. If the home remodeler agreed to a standard, he needs to provide it. If the provider fails to do her part, she's dead wrong. There's no gray area here as you seem to imply. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Big Money;1109685]So what started all this was that she did not want to teabag, but she seemed to have performed well enough everything else. Well I know Jay and she can be very sweet albeit a little proud at times, but that is no reason to degrade her. Maybe if you respected her and give her a chance to like you, then she might go for it next time. But by being a jerk, you made sure there won't be a next time on your part or her's.[/QUOTE]Big Money,
I appreciate your viewpoint and hear what you're saying, but I've got to go with Niteluvr on this one. For the most part, I am unfailingly polite, but it often seems that this is the leverage these cutthroat mamasans use to get more money out of me or reduce service levels. Let me provide some add'l background so I can be judged fairly.
Before I'm even out the door, these AMPs are lying to me with internet ads featuring women who've never been in an AMP, let alone in this country. Now, when I showed up at Oasis, I was very polite when talking to the mamasan about the internet ad. Also, I didn't plug the toilet maliciously, I took a dump the size of a baby's head. That's not my fault, that's Taco Bell's. When I refused to be serviced by a rail-thin woman who looked nothing like what I'the been led to believe would be my provider, I very politely asked to leave. That's when the mamasan unloaded on me about wasting her time and big shits sending her plumber bills through the roof.
Onto Elite. I get in the room, and the first thing that's said to me is, '$60. ' No greeting – just 'pay me. ' Not even an offer of a half-hour rate, which I would've preferred. On the flip, I politely described what I wanted and paid my money when Jay agreed. From that point on, this girl's attitude was difficult, to say the least. She tried to force me into a position I don't like. I had to beg to get her to accede to laying flat on the table. Then it was no, no, no. No, I'm not going to provide any more teasing. No, you can't kiss my pubic hairs. No, I'm not going to roll over you so can see my ass. Eff me. After 10 minutes of those little Asian head shakes that look like you're serving someone bad pie, I'the had enough. I (very politely) decided to spooge on her face and take my pleasure where I could. In my view, if you're a provider, you should provide. As NL says, no one has a gun to her head.
[QUOTE=Niteluvr; 1109773]I'll try to explain.
Again, I am a customer and when I negotiate a specific extra for a specific price, it's expected that the provider deliver that service. Ex: $60 nude HJ and cum on her tits. If, during that scenario she decides to give a lame HJ then suggests I finish myself or suddenly refuses to let me cum on her tits, she's wrong. It's as simple as that. At the first sign of trouble, if I know the mamasan well, I might call her into the room and tell her what's wrong. That's fair feedback. At that point I would expect mamasan to make an on-the-spot correction in the form of telling the girl to get her shit together or refund a portion of my money, whichever I prefer. On the other hand, if I believe I'm going to get the runaround and a lame excuse, then by all means I might shift gears and cum on her face. Who's the jerk? She is. She failed to perform an agreed-upon act. It's just that simple.
In reference to your point about the other monger's encounter with Jay, I would say this: I have never met Jay, but when I hear comments like she can be 'a little proud at times, ' it reminds me of providers who have a shitty attitude, don't want to do what they agreed to do and whine if they don't get everything their way. That type of one-sidedness needs to go.
Comments such as, 'Most of the ladies don't want to be there, and would quit given other options, ' are those of a biased, bleeding heart. If a provider doesn't want to be there, she knows where the door is. Nobody forced her at gunpoint to take the job; therefore, she can leave anytime she chooses.
My home remodeling example stands as I originally stated it, as does my AMP scenario of negotiating a specific act for a specific price: Everyone knows what's expected. If the home remodeler agreed to a standard, he needs to provide it. If the provider fails to do her part, she's dead wrong. There's no gray area here as you seem to imply. [/QUOTE]Actually Nite, the girls just can't get up and go if they don't like the lifestyle. You kinda make it sound like they can go to the classifieds and get an interview or do something else. The girls have no other options. The girls are stuck doing this because they were either forced in this situation, whether it was being sold like slaves, kidnapped, or whatever horrible situation that exist out there. There are some that do this because of needing money but it's a very small percentage. I know some of these girls that do it to get a green card in the USA but, again, it's a very small percentage. I have a few buddies that own parlors in Texas and they tell me the low down. All the girls are shipped from city to city every few few months and they get paid like shit. Most if not all the girls live at the AMP all jammed in a small room with sleeping bags and blankets all over the floor. They are not treated the way you think.
Now the thing is that I can understand the frustration with a girl not doing what you told her to do if SHE DID agree upon it. However, we fall into the category of telling her what to do and expecting it to happen after payment is given. Most of the time, she doesn't even know what the hell you're saying.
However, if you had any type of compassion, you would cut them some slack, leave, and know that next time you will not go to her. Her losing your business will hurt her more than you bitching at the mamasan because of her cut (money) being so low. Once she sees the funds decreasing on a weekly basis, she'll either change for the better or get shipped out.
I feel like us mongers treat these AMP girls worst than how we would treat the SC girls and even SW girls. Maybe because we can get away with it more? I wish I can yell at management about getting my money back at a Strip Club for a dancer not giving what was discussed in VIP (and also upselling and all that other bullshit they do to you when in the VIP) but I'd probably get my ass thrown out from a bouncer for doing so. Yelling at an SW for what was discussed wouldn't matter because she simply wouldn't give a flying fuck. Either way, AMP girls are a blessing and I wouldn't like to abuse it in anyway.
I don't know, that's how I look at it.
No disrespect Nite because you are the man
[QUOTE=John Wayne;1109927]Marketing 101, the customer cums first.[/QUOTE]'The customer "CUMS" first'. NICE! .
Long time lurker. Here's my report from last night.
Oasis. Decided to visit for evaluation so called ahead to confirm address (supplied off BP ad). Mamasan gave me the same (bad) address details that the GPS had problems locating. She told me something about "10st" so I headed down 10th (from the 75/85 north exit area) , the Northside Road or Ave comes up as a main intersection with 10th. One block left is Oasis. Decent parking lot.
Reception lobby as the famous "one way mirror sliding window". But she opened the main door and security gate. Now my stalling excuse is always to claim that I need cash. And politely refuse to use the on-site ATM telling them that I prefer to use the bank ATM. This stalling allows opportunity to look around, and maybe with some luck, get to be introduced to a service provider.
Well it worked! I was ushered into a room. Very new, very clean and nice. Lights had dimmer switch and door had locking device (good signs). Very soon there was a polite knock on the door and in walked the provider. Did not get her name. Was too shocked to ask! Here is an honest report of what was standing in front of me:
* an Asian "lady". Details moving from ground up are:
* high heels. Well kept feet / pedicure. Somewhat an important sign for me.
* small waist. Overall a good body.
* huge (HUGE) oversized silicone implants. Too big for rest of build. Popping out of her skimpy bra / top looking most uncomfortable.
* long hair. Seemingly a wig. Kind of had that unnatural look to it.
* weird face. Either facelifted, or something that has taken some work.
Now here's the kicker. From my travels in Bangkok and elsewhere. I was 95% sure she was a post operative MALE! Lady-boy as they call them.
There was no way I was staying. So I kicked-in with the ATM story and walked out. Be careful and if anyone else has been there and found a different (better) situation, then please share it. On a next trip to Atlanta, I will go back just for curiosity sake.
Drove across town to Aroma. Walked in to be greeted by a typical Korean lady. First impression was good. I was not sure if she was the greeter or doubling up in this role. Nice small petite all round, good english, well proportioned, natural jugs. Gave her my ATM story. On leaving she tells me her name is OD.
I had read about OD on this board, and when looking again could not find the report, suffice to say that I remember it as not too good. She looked good though.
Drove across the road to Gold. My "regular" location. Asked for my regular and she was there. I did call ahead to check. Annie is her name. Yes, the famous one! Spent my 40 min and left "elegantly disappointed" eventhough I am well known there because I always arrive with a 12-pack of soda, and most times a box of chocolates for the ladies.
Gold has changed a lot since I first starting going there. The mamasan rotation irritates me a lot. For many months / years even, the mamsan staff was wonderful. I even got to wait for providers sitting in the kitchen and was often offered food! But things have changed and here's my observation:
* ladies are not happy. Don't hear the laughing / fun atmosphere anymore. Often the good friendship between them was such that they would bring friends into the room after the event while preparing to leave.
* lady suggested to me that the mamasan situation is not good for them too.
* service was most mechanical. No more of the (slight) GFE experience as before.
Hey, maybe times are tough, so it is business as it should be done. Pay for 40min but get 'them out as soon as possible.
On exiting I did see two other providers. And both were as HOT as Annie!
I decided that this was my last visit, but who knows. Never say never!
Be careful and have fun.
Call me old-fashion, but under no circumstance should you act like a jerk to these ladies. You just don't do it. And it serves no purpose except jerk becomes your character.
[QUOTE=Gaghoes;1110252]LOL! Man, that was a damn good laugh. Every fucking sentence of it.[/QUOTE]
If it was intended to be joke, then I sure hope you didn't act like the jerk that did in the joke.
If it is a business transaction thing, well treat it as that-not like a jerk. If you think they are just low class ho's acting snotty, that still does not give you the right to act like a jerk to them. If you think you have the right to teach them a lesson, then being a jerk does not teach them anything except that you are a jerk.
Ten years from now, no one will remember what happened. But the only thing that you will remember is that you are the jerk. And I can't understand how anyone can be proud of that? Or your Momma can be proud of that?
Now I understand how Big Pun might have drew a pissed off chick at Fuji. She probably had a jerk right before him.
Maybe showing a little class is a Texas thing, even in an AMP? And maybe that is why the going rate is so high here because mamasan has to charge a premium for dealing with the jerks? If being a jerk is the norm here in Atlanta AMPs, then you are right, I don't belong here.
As for Atlasiangirth post, I will post another time on how the majority of these K-chicks end up working in the AMPs. And I stand by what I said before that most of the ladies don't want to be there, and would quit given other options. Whether you believe that or not still does not give you the right to act like a jerk to them.
[QUOTE=Captain Howdy; 1109135]Just for laughs, this afternoon I printed off a four-color copy of their internet ad and headed over to Oasis spa. I walked in and showed the mamasan the ad and pointed to the girl I wanted to see, a beautiful Asian girl who was spilling out of her bikini top.
The mamasan looked up at me and frowned. 'She no here today. '
'Maybe I should come back tomorrow, ' I said.
'She not back tomorrow. She on vacation. '
I pointed to another girl in the ad, a real stunner whose panties barely covered her ass. 'How about her? '
'She not here either. '
This was surprising news. 'Maybe she's on vacation with this girl, ' I suggested.
Apparently, none of the girls in the ad were working today. Instead, after I waited in the room about five minutes, this skinny, thoroughly unattractive 40-year-old woman dressed like a 14-year-old girl showed up. The internet ad was obviously just a big, fake tease. On my way to the exit, the mamasam ragged at me in pidgin English about wasting her time. She also complained that I had plugged up her toilet, which was true enough.
Next I headed over to Elite Spa off Roswell. This time a 35ish woman with large fake jugs came in the room. Since I was tired of driving, I agreed to the $60 room fee. Her name was (pick one of ten K-girl names: Anna, Jade, Candy, etc.) She did a decent TS. If your idea of a great massage is five minutes of painful lotion rubbing, this woman was a master masseuse. On the plus side, she did a good job teasing both balls and one nipple on the back end of the massage.
On the flip, I made the international symbol for an HJ with a Russian finish, handed over $60 and she got to work. She did an okay job. To her credit, once I got her laying on her back for the Russian, she did some fake clit rubbing and even added a little shuddering and moaning – not terribly convincing, but still. Her tits were full Cs, but so phony they couldn't be smushed together for a decent Russian, so instead I asked if she would let me teabag her. She made the international symbol for no fuckin way, so instead I pretended I was going to pop on her tits and at the last instant pulled up so I shot her in the face. That's a little dish I like to call, Cream o' some ol' guy.
I probably wouldn't repeat or recommend, but if you like large fake cans and a reasonably accommodating attitude at low, low prices, Jade may be your gal. [/QUOTE]LOL! Man, that was a damn good laugh. Every fucking sentence of it.
[QUOTE=Big Money; 1110246]Call me old-fashion, but under no circumstance should you act like a jerk to these ladies. You just don't do it. And it serves no purpose except jerk becomes your character.
If it was intended to be joke, then I sure hope you didn't act like the jerk that did in the joke.
If it is a business transaction thing, well treat it as that-not like a jerk. If you think they are just low class ho's acting snotty, that still does not give you the right to act like a jerk to them. If you think you have the right to teach them a lesson, then being a jerk does not teach them anything except that you are a jerk.
Ten years from now, no one will remember what happened. But the only thing that you will remember is that you are the jerk. And I can't understand how anyone can be proud of that? Or your Momma can be proud of that?
Now I understand how Big Pun might have drew a pissed off chick at Fuji. She probably had a jerk right before him.
Maybe showing a little class is a Texas thing, even in an AMP? And maybe that is why the going rate is so high here because mamasan has to charge a premium for dealing with the jerks? If being a jerk is the norm here in Atlanta AMPs, then you are right, I don't belong here.
As for Atlasiangirth post, I will post another time on how the majority of these K-chicks end up working in the AMPs. And I stand by what I said before that most of the ladies don't want to be there, and would quit given other options. Whether you believe that or not still does not give you the right to act like a jerk to them. [/QUOTE]I still don't think you get it. You seem to at least imply that responding in any perceived, negative way to a castiron bytch is somehow wrong and, if a guy does so, he's a jerk. WTF? Do you believe in fair play? How bad does a woman have to be before you'll get pissed? Aileen Vuornos, perhaps? You might recall she was a female serial killer who was executed several years ago.
I repeat: MOST guys I know act like fine gentlemen when visiting an AMP. The majority of the time all is well. It's the occasional whiny wench we can't stand. I don't care if her previous customer pissed her off. That's no excuse to take it out on the next guy. If you worked in a service industry, how well do you think your boss would react to you pissing off a respected client? I bet you'd be out the door. If you want to put these women on pedestals, it's up to you. And, if you have any solid information on any provder being held against her will, let me know. I would gladly assist in setting her free.
I also assume you don't speak or understand Korean, so do you really know what these girls think or say about you? A lot will use your good-naturedness to label you as a chump. The other 50% simply won't give a shit about you. A lot of mamasans and providers understand that I won't be played for a fool because they know that I know their game. If I'm a jerk, why do they want me to come back? Why do they tug on my arm and beg me to stay when I want to leave because I didn't see anyone in a lineup to my taste? Why have I received VMs and text messages from mamasans telling me they have a new girl that they know I'll probably like (big, natural rack and long hair)? Because they know I'm generally a nice guy and they want my repeat business even though I can be a "jerk" when circumstances call for it.
Lastly, if you're so convinced whiny AMP bytches deserve everyone's umost respect, no matter how badly they act, I suggest you're highly biased and you should take your convictions to the next level: MARRY one of them and then let us know how you're doing 3 months later when she wipes out your finances and leaves town.
[QUOTE=Captain Howdy; 1109953]Big Money,
I appreciate your viewpoint and hear what you're saying, but I've got to go with Niteluvr on this one. For the most part, I am unfailingly polite, but it often seems that this is the leverage these cutthroat mamasans use to get more money out of me or reduce service levels. Let me provide some add'l background so I can be judged fairly.
Before I'm even out the door, these AMPs are lying to me with internet ads featuring women who've never been in an AMP, let alone in this country. Now, when I showed up at Oasis, I was very polite when talking to the mamasan about the internet ad. Also, I didn't plug the toilet maliciously, I took a dump the size of a baby's head. That's not my fault, that's Taco Bell's. When I refused to be serviced by a rail-thin woman who looked nothing like what I'the been led to believe would be my provider, I very politely asked to leave. That's when the mamasan unloaded on me about wasting her time and big shits sending her plumber bills through the roof.
Onto Elite. I get in the room, and the first thing that's said to me is, '$60. ' No greeting – just 'pay me. ' Not even an offer of a half-hour rate, which I would've preferred. On the flip, I politely described what I wanted and paid my money when Jay agreed. From that point on, this girl's attitude was difficult, to say the least. She tried to force me into a position I don't like. I had to beg to get her to accede to laying flat on the table. Then it was no, no, no. No, I'm not going to provide any more teasing. No, you can't kiss my pubic hairs. No, I'm not going to roll over you so can see my ass. Eff me. After 10 minutes of those little Asian head shakes that look like you're serving someone bad pie, I'the had enough. I (very politely) decided to spooge on her face and take my pleasure where I could. In my view, if you're a provider, you should provide. As NL says, no one has a gun to her head. [/QUOTE]Well said! That's the scenario I envisioned based on similar sessions I've had. Some people will adamantly refuse to comprehend though. Excessive tunnel vision.
WOW! LOL LOL LOL
I see I am not by myself I went on a tour of AMP's this past summer and it seem to me that 3-5 were also EX MALES at sometime in their life, being ex Navy I seen many "benny-boys", so many gringo's haven't been to Asia or haven't seen these he-she's before so by seeing a short, slim, skinny, long hair Asian so called chick they don't have any ideal that the so-called shy chick they see in front of them with a man-made pussy was a DUDE / MALE at a point and time.
I seen so many drunken sailors walking off with benny-boys that it wasn't funny now you have these he-she's coming here getting pass off as Asian chicks some guys don't care as long as it NOW have a pussy even IF it was man-made LOL I walked out of so many rooms when they bring these he-shes in there I can just pick up a male vibe from these he-shes they can't fool me.
The same way you see all these Asians chicks with these huge fake tits these moist/gay/he-she's go to them to get that dick slice and pull apart and made a pussy for not to much money, I don't know why but there are a lot of moist gay shy young males all over Asia, maybe that's why when I get rough with these Asian girls they eat it up and love it, I said a lot of males are shy and moist BUT not all hell most of the stuff I learned from kicking and fucking people up came from Asian guys training me.
BUT, as far as Gold Spa goes I am sure they not laughing and joking as they once did hell there isn't that many tricks running in there every 5mins throwing $300-$500 at those chicks as they once were YES tricks still go in there but not like they once was not to many people laugh when they broke lol, now so many sit there at the table or sleep in the Suna room waiting and waiting for tricks to come in and after I posted how I ONLY pay them $160, I am sure many other guys have started going there demanding everything for the same price that Kid Cisco paid LOL LOL.
So, now these chicks run that place like a fast food outlet LOL that's is fine with me, you see I have a main lady in my life and I don't and won't kiss a wh#re in her mouth after she just took 40oz. Of cum from some monger just before I got there or when she left the next room or after she licked out some obese monger that just gone to Taco Bell LOL LOL.
All you pussy eaters out there doing it's is cool with me, IF! It's my lady's but eating out some Kim-cee eating hooker I just met 6mins early or some John just JACK OFF a week of cum all over her pussy hairs forget it.
So to me Gold Spa is cool and I get everything I always have got from them I don't bring gifts or rice or egg rolls to them I have met and know some of the old managers there, they know I am not a cop just a big monger that like Asian girls I TELL THEM BRING ME ONE with the most meat you have on their asses and I am just fine, I almost knock the hell out of one chick once trying to put her finger in my ass she was like sorry sorry I said I am not into any of that MOIST stuff just a good BJ, some doggie style pulling on some hair smacking some ass cheeks then I am out LOL, before anyone say I am jerk or asshoe I am not IF I was one the mamason's there would have banned me from going there a long time ago or charge me more many of the girls have told some of the others how rough I was and said do me like you did the other one last time LOL so hell I take my dick and slap it up side her face to start the session off on a good note, look these girls have so many shy, old lonely overweight guys going in their trying to make love to them licking these hookers asses out and kissing all on them like a high school sweetheart etc. etc., not me If I want a GFE I go home.
This coming year it could become worst, some of the best money makers that would come to the Gold Spa a few times a year have stop even coming to Atlanta because the top $$ that the tricks were throwing around many of those guys are now broke or out of a job now, I got to know a few girls from LA that would come to Gold's and stayed near by in a hotel / apt and leave with so much $$$$$ they didn't have to work again for another 3-4 months, those days are over now.
Have a good New Year guys and don't overpay these chicks LOL.
Kid Cisco
[QUOTE=Niteluvr; 1110286]I still don't think you get it. You seem to at least imply that responding in any perceived, negative way to a castiron bytch is somehow wrong and, if a guy does so, he's a jerk. WTF? Do you believe in fair play? How bad does a woman have to be before you'll get pissed? Aileen Vuornos, perhaps? You might recall she was a female serial killer who was executed several years ago.
I repeat: MOST guys I know act like fine gentlemen when visiting an AMP. The majority of the time all is well. It's the occasional whiny wench we can't stand. I don't care if her previous customer pissed her off. That's no excuse to take it out on the next guy. If you worked in a service industry, how well do you think your boss would react to you pissing off a respected client? I bet you'd be out the door. If you want to put these women on pedestals, it's up to you. And, if you have any solid information on any provder being held against her will, let me know. I would gladly assist in setting her free.
I also assume you don't speak or understand Korean, so do you really know what these girls think or say about you? A lot will use your good-naturedness to label you as a chump. The other 50% simply won't give a shit about you. A lot of mamasans and providers understand that I won't be played for a fool because they know that I know their game. If I'm a jerk, why do they want me to come back? Why do they tug on my arm and beg me to stay when I want to leave because I didn't see anyone in a lineup to my taste? Why have I received VMs and text messages from mamasans telling me they have a new girl that they know I'll probably like (big, natural rack and long hair)? Because they know I'm generally a nice guy and they want my repeat business even though I can be a "jerk" when circumstances call for it.
Lastly, if you're so convinced whiny AMP bytches deserve everyone's umost respect, no matter how badly they act, I suggest you're highly biased and you should take your convictions to the next level: MARRY one of them and then let us know how you're doing 3 months later when she wipes out your finances and leaves town. [/QUOTE]You poor soul.
Did your Momma never teach you to play nice with others?
Or have you always just been an misogynist?
Since you are only interested in yourself, here is some thing maybe you have not considered or I have not seen many postings here on the Atlanta board:
Have you ever thought that being nice to the ladies (and not be a jerk) might pay off in better services and lower prices in the long run?
As I have mentioned before with my examples with Houston AMP chicks, sure I started off paying them 140 / hr for everything. Some were good and some were not, but I was always nice to all the ladies. Many I would never see again, but the word got around to where even the new girls wanted to "try me", just like the word got around to which guys are the jerks. In AMPs where I was a regular, I never had any problems like those posted here because of my reputation alone. Over time, some left the AMPs to work by themselves on the side from their own apartments, in which I became an exclusive VIP client of theirs. For the same or better services from the same quality chicks as the AMP, I paid 60-100 / hr. That is why Houston is probably the best monger city in America.
If that does not exist here in Atlanta, then I am glad to be moving on at the end of my contract here.
And by you being a jerk, you are just f*ing up for those of us trying to be nice to the chicks in hopes of better services and lower prices in the long run because 1 bad apple can ruin the bunch with examples like:
1) Big Pun getting a pissed off chick and ruining his experience because of some jerk she had before him.
2) I built some répertoire with a chick which I hope to see again, but only to have a jerk run her off.
So what you see as a short term gain of smearing cum on the chick or playing the game of acting nice but messing things up, is costing more to the rest of us. And if everyone played your game, chicks would leave at a higher rate, and the going rate might even get higher as the supply gets lower than the demand. How many posts are there about how the quality of chicks have gone down?
We all need to do the opposite and treat the girls nice so that they want to work more, which would lead to a higher supply than demand resulting in lower prices and better services in the long run.
I really hope my contract in Atlanta does not get re-newed since many here can not think past the 5 seconds after they cum. And since Nite always have to have the last word, I won't respond to this anymore.