This is usually a great time of year to be sugaring. Girls need money for Christmas and with these new lockdowns jobs are tighter than ever. Look for even bigger lockdowns after Jan 20th. You got like 2 weeks till girls get busy with family.
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This is usually a great time of year to be sugaring. Girls need money for Christmas and with these new lockdowns jobs are tighter than ever. Look for even bigger lockdowns after Jan 20th. You got like 2 weeks till girls get busy with family.
Help is on the way. I have been super careful since the pandemic began, I have only been to the FC w / one girl I can recall. These vaccines are going to really reduce the risk (down to the usual worries for STDs and getting caught by the SO), I'll be back on SA as soon as I get the 2nd shot. I am lucky to be in group 1 B for California, I should not have to wait forever. I understand there will be 2 million doses available this month in California.
Does anyone have a prepaid card brand they know works with SA? I used to use the one vanilla ones, but those don't seem to be working anymore. I tried 2 different cards and neither worked.
[QUOTE=Clns2101;5105279]Does anyone have a prepaid card brand they know works with SA? I used to use the one vanilla ones, but those don't seem to be working anymore. I tried 2 different cards and neither worked.[/QUOTE]Make a one time use Virtual Charge Card if you have cards with Capital One, CitiBank or Bank of America.
[QUOTE=Clns2101;5105279]Does anyone have a prepaid card brand they know works with SA? I used to use the one vanilla ones, but those don't seem to be working anymore. I tried 2 different cards and neither worked[/QUOTE]There is dated information that if you load the app onto your Android phone, you can use Google Play cards (bought for cash) to pay for SA membership. Please check for us currently and report back.
[QUOTE=Clns2101;5105279]Does anyone have a prepaid card brand they know works with SA? I used to use the one vanilla ones, but those don't seem to be working anymore. I tried 2 different cards and neither worked.[/QUOTE]Please excuse my ignorance, I've never used a prepaid card online. On the SA site it asks for "name as it is on card". If you use prepaid, what do you put as name? Also, if I use a card not previously used but the name is the same, my name, I assume it won't be accepted because the name associated with the card was banned, correct? BTW. I was banned from WYP site but it automatically banned me from SA as well.
So I received a request for $700 on Venmo with a simple message: Abortion! My mind raced, and I panicked. Whom did I impregnate and when? I looked into our history and realised that I had paid her $200 in February. We only rendezvoused once and she never intimated to me that she was pregnant all these months. I am assuming that she already had the procedure done, if she was ever really pregnant. I don't want to contact her at all. What am I supposed to do? Does she have any legal standing?
[QUOTE=Uncountable;5108592]So I received a request for $700 on Venmo with a simple message: Abortion! My mind raced, and I panicked. Whom did I impregnate and when? I looked into our history and realised that I had paid her $200 in February. We only rendezvoused once and she never intimated to me that she was pregnant all these months. I am assuming that she already had the procedure done, if she was ever really pregnant. I don't want to contact her at all. What am I supposed to do? Does she have any legal standing?[/QUOTE]Block her number.
[QUOTE=Uncountable;5108592]So I received a request for $700 on Venmo with a simple message: Abortion! My mind raced, and I panicked. Whom did I impregnate and when? I looked into our history and realised that I had paid her $200 in February. We only rendezvoused once and she never intimated to me that she was pregnant all these months. I am assuming that she already had the procedure done, if she was ever really pregnant. I don't want to contact her at all. What am I supposed to do? Does she have any legal standing?[/QUOTE]Based on those timelines, you're supposed to toss your burner phone and forget about it. If she had an abortion, there's no DNA to match at this point, and if she's pregnant in a time window that would be eligible for an early term abortion, it's not yours.
Do nothing, or ask her who the father is and why he isn't hitting her with $700.
I assume if she has your venmo, that you paid her that way and she in fact knows who you are?
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5108927]Block her number.[/QUOTE]I already did, but she knows where I live. I will never make that mistake again. She also knows my real identity.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5108948]Based on those timelines, you're supposed to toss your burner phone and forget about it. If she had an abortion, there's no DNA to match at this point, and if she's pregnant in a time window that would be eligible for an early term abortion, it's not yours.
Do nothing, or ask her who the father is and why he isn't hitting her with $700.
I assume if she has your venmo, that you paid her that way and she in fact knows who you are?[/QUOTE]Yes, I paid her that way and she does know who I am and where I live.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5108948]Based on those timelines, you're supposed to toss your burner phone and forget about it. If she had an abortion, there's no DNA to match at this point, and if she's pregnant in a time window that would be eligible for an early term abortion, it's not yours.
Do nothing, or ask her who the father is and why he isn't hitting her with $700.
I assume if she has your venmo, that you paid her that way and she in fact knows who you are?[/QUOTE]IDK anything about Venmo specifically, but essentially everything these days for financial transactions requires real personal info, precluding anonymity, and I presume Venmo is the same. So, in retrospect, that wasn't such a good idea to do, was it? Keeping my operational security (married and a professional rep to defend) is paramount. I don't believe anyone has discovered the real me in my 3+ years in the bowl.
Assuming that you had done that, the point about DNA is a decent one. Even if you aren't yourself in any DNA databases, if a close relative is, you could be implicated in something (by someone like LE who has the resources and authority to dig into databases). BTW, the most common retort to a girl saying preggo is 'who's the father? Not me, I've had a vasectomy'. If you'd been with her a bunch, she might know that not to be true, but for a 1-night stand, I can't imagine her info is that good.
You don't have to lose your burner if you've been using Google Voice, you just get a new number if you don't want to be pestered by this chick.
I recently thought I had a good way to get $ transferred that failed. I am lucky enough to have a PayPal with my sugar identity. They haven't require verification for it. I thought I would send $ from several of my old prepaid cards (with odd small $ on them, from paying for SA) through my real PayPal to my sugar me. That part worked OK, but over on my sugar PayPal, to 'save' that $ in my account (to aggregate it), I did have to have my account verified. Dang.
[QUOTE=Shyzai;5109022]I already did, but she knows where I live. I will never make that mistake again. She also knows my real identity.
Yes, I paid her that way and she does know who I am and where I live.[/QUOTE]Well, no matter what the consequences, I wouldn't pay her. She'll always come back to that well if you do. You have to make sure she knows you're a waste of time to hit up for cash. If she threatens you with exposure, that's a crime. Might not be too helpful, but that's all I can really think of unless you're willing to make some threats of your own, which have the possibility of turning up the tension.
Hope it all works out. I'm assuming you're married or otherwise hooked up with a SO, or you could just follow Hollywood's advice: Block and forget.
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I recently thought I had a good way to get $ transferred that failed. I am lucky enough to have a PayPal with my sugar identity. They haven't require verification for it. I thought I would send $ from several of my old prepaid cards (with odd small $ on them, from paying for SA) through my real PayPal to my sugar me. That part worked OK, but over on my sugar PayPal, to 'save' that $ in my account (to aggregate it), I did have to have my account verified. Dang.[/QUOTE]Nothing connected to a financial institution is truly anonymous. A Paypal account in another name is still funded by a transactional instrument such as a bank / card, etc.
Cash is king. Even in restaurants. I was plopped at a bar with a SB a few years ago, and when he brought back my AMEX, you know what he said. "Thank you Mr. RogerOver".
She looked at me and said, I'm going home and google "RogerOver" LOL. Had my speaking presentations and all next time I saw her. She was a good kid, so it was a laugh off. But you never know when good times become bad.
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5109602]Nothing connected to a financial institution is truly anonymous. A Paypal account in another name is still funded by a transactional instrument such as a bank / card, etc.
Cash is king. Even in restaurants. I was plopped at a bar with a SB a few years ago, and when he brought back my AMEX, you know what he said. "Thank you Mr. RogerOver".
She looked at me and said, I'm going home and google "RogerOver" LOL. Had my speaking presentations and all next time I saw her. She was a good kid, so it was a laugh off. But you never know when good times become bad.[/QUOTE]This has changed over time. A year + ago, I was able to buy prepaid cards and send $ to a SB by my sugar PayPal (to pay for the room she was getting for us). Like lots of these young ones, she didn't have a credit card, she needed $ on her debit card to get the transaction to process. But as I said myself, I don't think this will work currently. So, your first statement may or may not be true. Yes, I am very dedicated to cash whenever. I would never use my personal credit card around a SB. I also know all the security issues w / getting a hotel, that's why I like to have my SB get a room.
[QUOTE=Uncountable;5108592]So I received a request for $700 on Venmo with a simple message: Abortion! My mind raced, and I panicked. Whom did I impregnate and when? I looked into our history and realised that I had paid her $200 in February. We only rendezvoused once and she never intimated to me that she was pregnant all these months. I am assuming that she already had the procedure done, if she was ever really pregnant. I don't want to contact her at all. What am I supposed to do? Does she have any legal standing?[/QUOTE]Hmm that was 11 months ago thinking maybe a scam she probably did a text blast to all her numbers. That said if she could actually prove it is your child yes you're on the hook. You should block her number and cease all contact since nothing good can come of it and she tried to scam you.
[QUOTE=Shyzai;5109022]I already did, but she knows where I live. I will never make that mistake again. She also knows my real identity.
Yes, I paid her that way and she does know who I am and where I live.[/QUOTE]You are just going to have to wait it out. After some length of time it will fade away as most of these things tend to do. It's easy for me to say, but having been in similar threatening situations with SB's and GF's in the past, it's just normally what happens. I am sure every one on this thread is thinking, "There but for the grace of God go I" And good luck.
Do you guys generally make an offer before the meet or after meeting? What is a reasonable offer to make to a thin, young latina in So Cal? Thanks so much.
[QUOTE=SushiLover69;5111640]Do you guys generally make an offer before the meet or after meeting? What is a reasonable offer to make to a thin, young latina in So Cal? Thanks so much.[/QUOTE]I won't even do an M&G without a firm yes to my offer beforehand. As I prefer to do my sweet talking via messaging. I like to get the financials out of the way upfront so the only thing left to think about is the fun. And I am a low baller so even in a not so great outcome I am still gonna cum for a fair price. And many times I will be paying 50%-67% off of prevailing rates for a hottie. The down side is I will get a lot of turn downs. But I would rather get turned down via txt than face to face.
Many others wait till the M&G (as they may offer more or less depending on the perceived value). And some leave it a mystery until after the deed is done.
Try out a few different scenarios and see which one best suites your needs.
What kind of of girls take lowball offers?
AA girls are more likely to. But so will latinas and white girls.
Girls that can see something more in you than the $.
Girls in an immediate financial bind.
Girls that usually get far more but are just bored and with nothing to do for the moment.
Girls staying in motels. Girls that need a room.
Maybe you are adding a nice dinner to the date or an attractive location.
New girls that don't know any better.
Girls with low self esteem that are grateful that you even made an offer.
Girls you connect with on a kink level.
Girls that may not fit the prevailing standard of beauty.
Older girls that just got out of a relationship, want revenge, are bored, or just horny.
Just my 2 cents.
[QUOTE=SushiLover69;5111640]Do you guys generally make an offer before the meet or after meeting? What is a reasonable offer to make to a thin, young latina in So Cal? Thanks so much.[/QUOTE]Here's the thing. I've tried to HG price point, and it can work but you could potentially be waiting around for months with nothing to show for it, just to save a couple $$. Keep in mind it sounds like he mostly goes for black girls and in my experience they will consistently take low balls. Other girls not so much. I make the offer before meeting in most cases, they usually won't even agree to meet until they get an idea of what you're offering. You can deviate from that and get some results, but imo its a waste of time to try to save a bit of money. The best strategy to try to save money is to give your best offers up front, do a couple of meetups, maybe a month or so, then after she gets to know you and trust you, try to lower the allowance.
Is there a lot of fake ads?! As I am seeing a lot of that like most dating apps and website as those numbers are higher and other social media etc!
I have tried different approaches over time. The most important thing for me is to make sure they are DTF in some form while chatting on SA. (I never discuss money on SA.) Then I move them to texting. While texting, I share a range. The range varies depending on how hot they look, their distance from me, my relative level of recent success and a few other factors. When we meet, I offer a specific amount. I have a list of excuses I can offer for any adjustments. I will low ball anyone I don't really want to see again. I might overpay for someone really hot. I do them once and then do not reschedule. If they ask me why, I say: "It wasn't really all that good was it?" I have been doing this almost seven years. I have learned a lot from people like Hollywood Guy. It is a numbers game and by now my wrinkled, old ass is impervious to any attitude the POT's might throw at me. Every day there are new ones eager to see me. When I make my offer, I am at my indifference point: if they say yes, I am glad. If they say No, I don't care; I move on.
With regard to Paypal, for several years I had a fully functioning sugar Paypal tied to my sugar gmail. I started it using a prepaid credit card. I was able to use it to send money direct or for gifts from Amazon to SB's. A few years ago, they started demanding a regular credit / debit card or a bank account. It no longer works for me and I have a few hundred stranded there. If anyone knows how to get it out, please DM me.
Bam.
[QUOTE=SushiLover69;5111640]Do you guys generally make an offer before the meet or after meeting? What is a reasonable offer to make to a thin, young latina in So Cal? Thanks so much.[/QUOTE]
I've mostly been mongering on HX / PD / Backpage when it was around, and am looking to try something new. Ik most of these girls aren't supposed to be pros but is it similar to talking to pros? Also when I mongered I prefered to go to an incall is that something the girls on SA usually have or is it a outcall only thing? Thanks for the help.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5112133]What kind of of girls take lowball offers?
AA girls are more likely to. But so will latinas and white girls.
Girls that can see something more in you than the $.
Girls in an immediate financial bind.
Girls that usually get far more but are just bored and with nothing to do for the moment.
Girls staying in motels. Girls that need a room.
Maybe you are adding a nice dinner to the date or an attractive location.
New girls that don't know any better.
Girls with low self esteem that are grateful that you even made an offer.
Girls you connect with on a kink level.
Girls that may not fit the prevailing standard of beauty.
Older girls that just got out of a relationship, want revenge, are bored, or just horny.
Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]I don't want to generalize, but why do you say AA chicks are more open to lower amounts?
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5112133]What kind of of girls take lowball offers?
AA girls are more likely to. But so will latinas and white girls.
Girls that can see something more in you than the $.
Girls in an immediate financial bind.
Girls that usually get far more but are just bored and with nothing to do for the moment.
Girls staying in motels. Girls that need a room.
Maybe you are adding a nice dinner to the date or an attractive location.
New girls that don't know any better.
Girls with low self esteem that are grateful that you even made an offer.
Girls you connect with on a kink level.
Girls that may not fit the prevailing standard of beauty.
Older girls that just got out of a relationship, want revenge, are bored, or just horny.
Just my 2 cents.[/QUOTE]Completely sage advice by HG but this also works well for Midballing which is where I'm at since I simply don't have the time and energy to lowball. I focus on girls who are new, young, and insecure about their looks who want to get away from home every once in a while or older hotties who happen to have short term debt that they need to take care of. The common denominator is that they are all new to SA and are apprehensive about being an SB in general and so far, I have gotten good results without much effort. Stay away from young Asian American and Middle Eastern girls and girls who have a large social media following since they all develop serious GPS. The main thing is to work with whatever budget you have and go from there.
How many times have you guys gotten a "meet" without any damage at all? Any tips?
[QUOTE=MidnightDabber;5113433]How many times have you guys gotten a "meet" without any damage at all? Any tips?[/QUOTE]Whoa, deja vu, man. Same thread as on Orange county. .
[QUOTE=RogerOver;5113114]I don't want to generalize, but why do you say AA chicks are more open to lower amounts?[/QUOTE]Just my experience from hitting up thousands of girls over the last 15 years.
[QUOTE=MidnightDabber;5113433]How many times have you guys gotten a "meet" without any damage at all? Any tips?[/QUOTE]It's rare but it happens. For me maybe 1 out of 50 times. But I did have one girl I saw at least 6 times for 2 hour sessions with no allowance. She said it would ruin the mood.
[QUOTE=BamBam;5112930]With regard to Paypal, for several years I had a fully functioning sugar Paypal tied to my sugar gmail. I started it using a prepaid credit card. I was able to use it to send money direct or for gifts from Amazon to SB's. A few years ago, they started demanding a regular credit / debit card or a bank account. It no longer works for me and I have a few hundred stranded there. If anyone knows how to get it out, please DM me[/QUOTE]Got a friend? Send the balance of your account to that person, then have that person hand you cash. They shouldn't be holding a balance hostage. Been working with Paypal for over 20 years.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;5114446]Just my experience from hitting up thousands of girls over the last 15 years[/QUOTE]Admit it HG it's more than just the bang for your buck. There is magic to be found in the pursuit of black girls, not just the discount price.
I've been on SA for about a year on and off.
I had some initial luck. By that I mean I met a girl that I fucked without paying. I've since seen her a few times and we've done the deed each time. The only thing she's asked is that I pay her hotel room once.
A few other experiences were just regular dates. For instance, food or hiking or both.
Most of my experience however has been that the girls on there are 90% online sb with the covid or just wanting a very wealthy man.
For context, I'm younger than the usual, but don't necessarily low ball.
I tried HG's approach and have had only one girl that is down, but only when she wants to.
HG: do you have a big dick?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/3c2aa60f-d3d4-4200-a52e-e489573c16d4[/URL]
I'm working in LA and have been texting this one. Anyone have any contact with her?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b124e27a-26e3-4118-8db9-d97ab6849b39[/URL]
I love short women. Have anyone every try her and any info?
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/b124e27a-26e3-4118-8db9-d97ab6849b39[/URL]
Any info?
[QUOTE=Livinitup;5116277]Admit it HG it's more than just the bang for your buck. There is magic to be found in the pursuit of black girls, not just the discount price.[/QUOTE]It's my preference. I am old enough to say we weren't allowed to date black girls in H.S. But as soon as I graduated it was on. First wife was white as snow (blond & blue). That pretty much solidified that I only liked darker girls. Second wife was dark but not a black girl. But the last 15 years has been 70% AA, 20% south asian, 5% latina, 5% white. And the last 5 years almost all AA.
[QUOTE=MarcGbiz;5116411]I've been on SA for about a year on and off.
I had some initial luck. By that I mean I met a girl that I fucked without paying. I've since seen her a few times and we've done the deed each time. The only thing she's asked is that I pay her hotel room once.
A few other experiences were just regular dates. For instance, food or hiking or both.
Most of my experience however has been that the girls on there are 90% online sb with the covid or just wanting a very wealthy man.
For context, I'm younger than the usual, but don't necessarily low ball.
I tried HG's approach and have had only one girl that is down, but only when she wants to.
HG: do you have a big dick?[/QUOTE]I will say this. I never talk to any girl about dick size and very little about sex before meeting them. So the bigger issue (no pun intended) is how do you get girls to meet you for sex on the budget you are comfortable with. Its more about confidence and being the man, telling them what's up (still no pun intended.). Sugar daddy = strong male presence. Or just paying what they want. It's not that hard (sorry about this pun recurrence).
Do you guys hit up your SB or do you wait for them to hit you up?
[QUOTE=TheRealTruth;5118070]Do you guys hit up your SB or do you wait for them to hit you up?[/QUOTE]I always initiate, because I keep my SA profile hidden from search. That way I avoid all the scammers, time-wasters, pic-sellers, out-of-towners. Once I have visited a girl's page, she can see my profile, some like or message. When I am not paid on the site, as is the case right now (because of the coronavirus) I sometimes will like a profile and / or show my private pics to her (all my pics are fakes, of the same guy who looks like me, cropped as if they are really me and I want to keep my discretion). That hook smokes out girls who will be interested for sure once I am paid and can message again. I keep some in my 'freezer' this way.
[QUOTE=TWill182;4870712]Anyone met her before?[/QUOTE]I've met this girl before a couple times near Dtla. She didn't host. PM me for more info.