Non Pro's

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5685680]I think I hit that age where attractive, younger people that like to fuck will choose someone younger and more attractive than me. I can still get women in their 40's and 50's without paying, but with the rare exception, they are not attractive and a pain in the fucking ass.

The offers I've had in the $250-$300 range from younger women have generally been fat or ugly (or both), with the exception of one who didn't show. Realistically, the women that have offered that are attractive have been $400-$500 for a PPM. I'm okay with that. Inflation and shit.[/QUOTE]Sorry I did come across as condescending.

I don't pursue very young women, l go after late 20's to late 30's. I do need to find them attractive but I don't require perfect bodies if they have the right attitude towards sex.

Anybody had contact with this chick from FetLife and Twitter? She screams sugar baby, but I haven't seen her on the site.

[URL]https://fetlife.com/users/13572213[/URL]

[URL]https://twitter.com/thelydiagrey[/URL]

[QUOTE=RainySeattleGu;5682005]Dulcelatinx.

Drebabyyy93.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e45bd0ed-c528-48c6-8ecc-26a3742e11c6[/URL]

She's a pro. Wanted $500 for covered. $1000 for covered greek.[/QUOTE]She looks pretty tired and used for that kind of request.

[QUOTE=RainySeattleGu;5681994]Blynn1015.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/cdd17cc1-f952-40a7-8fa0-a97459020dcc[/URL]

Only down for oral. Wants $450. Got her down to $300 but have not taken the plunge.[/QUOTE]I think for a grad student, she needs to set more realistic expectations.

[QUOTE=KitWalker1967;5686138]Anybody had contact with this chick from FetLife and Twitter? She screams sugar baby, but I haven't seen her on the site.

[URL]https://fetlife.com/users/13572213[/URL]

[URL]https://twitter.com/thelydiagrey[/URL][/QUOTE]She needs to cut back on the sugar. And burgers. And chips.

I have a SB I occasionally get together with for a ppm and she is interested in a mfm threesome. Anyone on here located in the Bellingham area interested in helping me out with that?

She's 22, white, cute girl next door type.

Looking for someone easy going, somewhat fit and under 50.

Send me a PM with a short description of yourself and if you sound like a good match I'll respond with more details.

I couldn't believe the girl increase their rate 60% for a repeat. I see a beautiful girl in her mid 20's last week for $500 for couple of hours. Try to schedule a date with her again couple of days later but she told me she is busy. Then today I texted her to see when she is available and she said she is available tomorrow. She ask me was is the allowance and I told her 500 like last time. She then told me to go find a different girl. If I want to see her again it would be $800. I just couldn't believe it because we have a lot of fun last time and hoping to have her as long term arrangement but I guess not. Is there guys out there paying that much?

I am curious has anyone recently experience a lot of flaky or ghosting when it time to meet up with the girls. I have three different girls in their twenty over the last three days ghosting on me. We message back and forth via text. Everything was fine and schedule for a meet up. Then on either before the day of the meet up or on that day I send a text to confirm if we are still meeting up and I don't get any response. Also their profile either get deactivated or block me. Is this normal or I am missing something? I feel like SA hiring people to chat and then disconnected when it time to meet up.

[QUOTE=LeeGroinman;5688150]She needs to cut back on the sugar. And burgers. And chips.[/QUOTE]I 2nd this 😂"big tits" don't count when you weight over 200 lbs lmao.

[QUOTE=MarkoRamius;5685074]I'm generally in that price range, but I might consider $600 for a full overnight fair.

If a girl is asking for more than that, she'd better be a Victoria's Secret Model, in Playboy's College Girls, or an NFL Cheerleader. Otherwise she can GTFO.[/QUOTE]You guys spoiling them. I never went above $300 and sometimes they stayed the entire night. As long as your not a creep, I think they don't mind it. I think a lot of dudes might be old and or overweight if they're paying that much. Nothing against them, as they got to do what they got to do but at that rate just pay for a good escort 🤷8205;9794;65039;Just my thoughts. To each his own I guess.

[QUOTE=LeeGroinman;5688150]She needs to cut back on the sugar. And burgers. And chips.[/QUOTE]Exactly. Her head game may be on point, but I'd prefer the rest of her be hidden on the other side of a gloryhole.

[QUOTE=HBadger;5690356]at that rate just pay for a good escort [/QUOTE]Because an escort won't cook for you, take a bath with you, go to dinner with you, watch tv with you, hang around after with you. At least not for $300.

I don't understand posts like yours. You're not going to convince guys from paying what they're paying. Someone may argue 'til they're blue in the face that houses around here should only sell for $300,000 like in Texas. But if a person has the money and likes a certain house, he'll pay $600,000 for it. And nothing anyone says will stop him.

Let's stick to sharing information and experiences and help each other out.

Wouldn't go less then $450 ppm.

I have not seen her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2892caac-31ec-469b-947b-697dbdbc7a9f[/URL]

[QUOTE=BedRock01;5690291]I couldn't believe the girl increase their rate 60% for a repeat. I see a beautiful girl in her mid 20's last week for $500 for couple of hours. Try to schedule a date with her again couple of days later but she told me she is busy. Then today I texted her to see when she is available and she said she is available tomorrow. She ask me was is the allowance and I told her 500 like last time. She then told me to go find a different girl. If I want to see her again it would be $800. I just couldn't believe it because we have a lot of fun last time and hoping to have her as long term arrangement but I guess not. Is there guys out there paying that much?

I am curious has anyone recently experience a lot of flaky or ghosting when it time to meet up with the girls. I have three different girls in their twenty over the last three days ghosting on me. We message back and forth via text. Everything was fine and schedule for a meet up. Then on either before the day of the meet up or on that day I send a text to confirm if we are still meeting up and I don't get any response. Also their profile either get deactivated or block me. Is this normal or I am missing something? I feel like SA hiring people to chat and then disconnected when it time to meet up.[/QUOTE]With the younger girls, it's all fun and games until the dick comes out. At that point, they have to come to terms with they are accepting money to have sex and what that means. Many, if not most, realize that they are basically prostitutes if they do it and back out. It's one reason why I avoid the younger ones. The ones that move forward tend to be the "broken" ones (addicts, abuse victims). It's very rare you will get a healthy 20 YO that has a good home life to fuck someone 3 times their age for a few hundred bucks.

It's not inflation. Some women learn from somewhere that to maximize their allowance they stay in SA site but their asking allowance is always higher from their current arrangement. If they get a guy that gives more then they drop the previous arrangement and so on. That is the reason I talk with my current arrangements if I see them still in SA. I tell them that if our arrangement is not enough to let me know and we can end it right there, no hard feelings but if they keep our arrangement then I better not see they still are on SA because I will end the arrangement. I openly tell them I won't be financing them the time to find a higher allowance arrangement to drop me. I also let them know that I am an ongoing arrangement and they could be trading me for a one time guy.

[QUOTE=BedRock01;5690291]I couldn't believe the girl increase their rate 60% for a repeat. I see a beautiful girl in her mid 20's last week for $500 for couple of hours. Try to schedule a date with her again couple of days later but she told me she is busy. Then today I texted her to see when she is available and she said she is available tomorrow. She ask me was is the allowance and I told her 500 like last time. She then told me to go find a different girl. If I want to see her again it would be $800. I just couldn't believe it because we have a lot of fun last time and hoping to have her as long term arrangement but I guess not. Is there guys out there paying that much?

I am curious has anyone recently experience a lot of flaky or ghosting when it time to meet up with the girls. I have three different girls in their twenty over the last three days ghosting on me. We message back and forth via text. Everything was fine and schedule for a meet up. Then on either before the day of the meet up or on that day I send a text to confirm if we are still meeting up and I don't get any response. Also their profile either get deactivated or block me. Is this normal or I am missing something? I feel like SA hiring people to chat and then disconnected when it time to meet up.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MyNickname;5692763]It's not inflation. Some women learn from somewhere that to maximize their allowance they stay in SA site but their asking allowance is always higher from their current arrangement. If they get a guy that gives more then they drop the previous arrangement and so on. That is the reason I talk with my current arrangements if I see them still in SA. I tell them that if our arrangement is not enough to let me know and we can end it right there, no hard feelings but if they keep our arrangement then I better not see they still are on SA because I will end the arrangement. I openly tell them I won't be financing them the time to find a higher allowance arrangement to drop me. I also let them know that I am an ongoing arrangement and they could be trading me for a one time guy.[/QUOTE]Well she did deactivate her account for couple of days and then she created a new one. On the new account she use one of the pictures that she send me so that is how I know it her. She now post some pictures that look similar to her but not exactly her on the new account. I didn't message or let her know that I know her new account.

I do think the girls are playing that game and agreeing with you. I am curious what is your ppm or allowance for your current arrangement? I think $800 for an evening is kind of excessive and the bad part is she doesn't like to give BJ.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5692423]With the younger girls, it's all fun and games until the dick comes out. At that point, they have to come to terms with they are accepting money to have sex and what that means. Many, if not most, realize that they are basically prostitutes if they do it and back out.[/QUOTE]Well true but I want to find that gem / no pros that like to have fun but it seem harder and harder to find on the site. Also it doesn't seem they is a lot of new attractive people joining the site.

So just following up on my earlier post about Lydia Grey. She tossed out a vague hint on her FetLife account about being an escort. Listed a bunch of cities, but no info about rates or menu. I'll believe it once somebody reliable goes hogging and posts the details.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5692423]With the younger girls, it's all fun and games until the dick comes out. At that point, they have to come to terms with they are accepting money to have sex and what that means. Many, if not most, realize that they are basically prostitutes if they do it and back out. It's one reason why I avoid the younger ones...[/QUOTE]Yes, I've never hooked up with anybody on any arrangement site younger than 25 that didn't end up freaking out about what she was doing. One more reason 25 is usually my hard cutoff.

[QUOTE=BedRock01;5693061]Also it doesn't seem they is a lot of new attractive people joining the site.[/QUOTE]There was a post speculating that SA hired people to maintain new profiles that engage well and then ghost, presumably because the lack of new talent. There might be something like that going on, as I got favorited by a couple of recent attractive member, after messaging they wanted to switch to text, all red flags ony book, at first I thought they were scammers, but we had some interesting chats it was cleared they read my extensive profile and then ghost me when we were talking about meeting.

I am talking with these two.

They feel a bit pro, anybody recognize them from escorts ads or have personal experience.

Any insights would be greatly appreciated, please PM if you don't want to discuss publicly.

LaLa-Land.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6b112321-c517-47da-928d-8ac7adc1bb46[/URL]

CoquettishConfidant.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ab3d32f8-e951-41f0-8695-6d7dd0cc28a6[/URL]

[QUOTE=DelToro;5693975]I am talking with these two.

They feel a bit pro, anybody recognize them from escorts ads or have personal experience.

Any insights would be greatly appreciated, please PM if you don't want to discuss publicly.

LaLa-Land.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/6b112321-c517-47da-928d-8ac7adc1bb46[/URL]

CoquettishConfidant.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/ab3d32f8-e951-41f0-8695-6d7dd0cc28a6[/URL][/QUOTE]Did they gave away any of the easy signs that they're a pro? Did they ask or say anything about hosting (using the word hosting)? Do they talk in hours instead of meets? Or (my favorite), did they ask you if you were looking for an incall or outcall (as if that isn't a dead giveaway)?

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5693999]Did they gave away any of the easy signs that they're a pro? Did they ask or say anything about hosting (using the word hosting)? Do they talk in hours instead of meets? Or (my favorite), did they ask you if you were looking for an incall or outcall (as if that isn't a dead giveaway)?[/QUOTE]It was the I am ready when you are ready.

So I just got nailed with some fucker that got my Instagram, and then got me to send videos. Then threatened to post my videos and pictures if I didn't pay 3000. Profile amd mag attached. So fucked up it make me sick. I didn't even see it coming. The back and forth seemed natural, including playful videos. Totally fucked. He called me on WhatsApp and had a African accent so I cursed him out and close my social media. Seems he already has some contacts but let this be a lesson to all to not share any info until meeting. I had no idea this was a fucking trick.

10 texts on Christmas Eve from people that had ghosted me, apologizing for it with every lame excuse in the book and then asking for money for presents for their kids.

I almost fell for it, when I saw the first one. By the third, I was like "hold on", the 10th just arrived 3 minutes ago. I will contact them all after January 1 and see who responds.

Somehow, I double posted.

[QUOTE=BarryWood;5694085]So I just got nailed with some fucker that got my Instagram, and then got me to send videos. Then threatened to post my videos and pictures if I didn't pay 3000. Profile amd mag attached. So fucked up it make me sick. I didn't even see it coming. The back and forth seemed natural, including playful videos. Totally fucked. He called me on WhatsApp and had a African accent so I cursed him out and close my social media. Seems he already has some contacts but let this be a lesson to all to not share any info until meeting. I had no idea this was a fucking trick.[/QUOTE]Meh. Had this tried on me three times. Ignored all of them, nothing happened.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5694091]10 texts on Christmas Eve from people that had ghosted me, apologizing for it with every lame excuse in the book and then asking for money for presents for their kids.

I almost fell for it, when I saw the first one. By the third, I was like "hold on", the 10th just arrived 3 minutes ago. I will contact them all after January 1 and see who responds.[/QUOTE]I agree. I was talking with like eight people last week, all leading to nothing. Apparently them came to a quiet acceptance about "not getting presents for their kids."

[QUOTE=BarryWood;5694085]So I just got nailed with some fucker that got my Instagram, and then got me to send videos. Then threatened to post my videos and pictures if I didn't pay 3000. Profile amd mag attached. So fucked up it make me sick. I didn't even see it coming. The back and forth seemed natural, including playful videos. Totally fucked. He called me on WhatsApp and had a African accent so I cursed him out and close my social media. Seems he already has some contacts but let this be a lesson to all to not share any info until meeting. I had no idea this was a fucking trick.[/QUOTE]"WhatsApp" Theres your problem. Every single time a girl asks me to use WhassApp instead of texting I know its a Scam. In the very low chance it isn't then oh well I will just have to miss out. That stuff is popular in China but not here in the US.

[QUOTE=Spacehog;5695414]"WhatsApp" Theres your problem. Every single time a girl asks me to use WhassApp instead of texting I know its a Scam. In the very low chance it isn't then oh well I will just have to miss out. That stuff is popular in China but not here in the US.[/QUOTE]True, when they ask for an alternative right away, something's up. But almost every SB knows to take the discussion offline when discussing rates, services, etc.

[QUOTE=BarryWood;5694085]So I just got nailed with some fucker that got my Instagram, and then got me to send videos. Then threatened to post my videos and pictures if I didn't pay 3000. Profile amd mag attached. So fucked up it make me sick. I didn't even see it coming. The back and forth seemed natural, including playful videos. Totally fucked. He called me on WhatsApp and had a African accent so I cursed him out and close my social media. Seems he already has some contacts but let this be a lesson to all to not share any info until meeting. I had no idea this was a fucking trick.[/QUOTE]I have a woman right now that wants to fuck me, has never mentioned money, but basically wants to get back at her boyfriend for ignoring her. She has sent me videos of her playing with herself and everything. She started asking me for dick pics. I know women don't like dick pics and she kept saying that she wants to see the cock that's going to fuck her. I finally just told her no. I wonder if she's a scammer.

[QUOTE=BarryWood;5694085]So I just got nailed with some fucker that got my Instagram, and then got me to send videos. Then threatened to post my videos and pictures if I didn't pay 3000. Profile amd mag attached. So fucked up it make me sick. I didn't even see it coming. The back and forth seemed natural, including playful videos. Totally fucked. He called me on WhatsApp and had a African accent so I cursed him out and close my social media. Seems he already has some contacts but let this be a lesson to all to not share any info until meeting. I had no idea this was a fucking trick.[/QUOTE]Yeah so you definitely made a few mistakes. I would just ignore it. I would not have gotten into a back and forth with the guy over the phone. The less said the better usually. Just tell the person to fuck off. Barking dogs do not bite.

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[QUOTE=BarryWood;5694085]So I just got nailed with some fucker that got my Instagram, and then got me to send videos. Then threatened to post my videos and pictures if I didn't pay 3000. Profile amd mag attached. So fucked up it make me sick. I didn't even see it coming. The back and forth seemed natural, including playful videos. Totally fucked. He called me on WhatsApp and had a African accent so I cursed him out and close my social media. Seems he already has some contacts but let this be a lesson to all to not share any info until meeting. I had no idea this was a fucking trick.[/QUOTE]

I think she / he is trying to meet you up. Especially when they want a full nude shot, then that is there blackmail material. Just sending a pure dick shot, we'll good look trying to extort me with that. Especially when I send the pic as.

A dick in a box!

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5695614]I have a woman right now that wants to fuck me, has never mentioned money, but basically wants to get back at her boyfriend for ignoring her. She has sent me videos of her playing with herself and everything. She started asking me for dick pics. I know women don't like dick pics and she kept saying that she wants to see the cock that's going to fuck her. I finally just told her no. I wonder if she's a scammer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Barnie;5546720]She has changed her handle several times over the years.

Still good for a outcall. 2 hours 300.

Bbfscip, facefuck. Likes getting fucked hard and stretched out.

She is chubby. Allows pics and videos.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the # She is such a cumwhore.

Cranked 2 shots out in her for under 300.

I sent my friend. He did the same.

She didn't even verify. He just said they had communicated in the past.

Sweet pussy. She has clearly popped out a kid or two.

[QUOTE=MrFox75;5661164]I've seen her a couple times but it's been awhile. She's very small and very tight, no boobs. I stopped because she kept hitting me up for money. She's a nice, normal girl so definitely worth a meet up since she's dtf.[/QUOTE]She sounds fun to fuck.

[QUOTE=MrFox75;5661164]I've seen her a couple times but it's been awhile. She's very small and very tight, no boobs. I stopped because she kept hitting me up for money. She's a nice, normal girl so definitely worth a meet up since she's dtf.[/QUOTE]She is like a little fuck doll, she is not to in to it, but she is super tiny.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;5696453]I think she / he is trying to SET you up. Especially when they want a full nude shot, then that is there blackmail material. Just sending a pure dick shot, we'll good look trying to extort me with that. Especially when I send the pic as.

A dick in a box![/QUOTE]Fixed it.

Fixed it. Poon on.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;5692231]Wouldn't go less then $450 ppm.

I have not seen her.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/2892caac-31ec-469b-947b-697dbdbc7a9f[/URL][/QUOTE]As the great Austin Powers would say, "That's not a cool chick, that's a man, baby!

If it sounds too good to be true, it is.

"Learn it. Know it. Live it. ".

- Brad Hamilton.

[QUOTE=Michael1967;5695614]I have a woman right now that wants to fuck me, has never mentioned money, but basically wants to get back at her boyfriend for ignoring her. She has sent me videos of her playing with herself and everything. She started asking me for dick pics. I know women don't like dick pics and she kept saying that she wants to see the cock that's going to fuck her. I finally just told her no. I wonder if she's a scammer.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=TheNovelist;5697620]If it sounds too good to be true, it is.

"Learn it. Know it. Live it. ".

- Brad Hamilton.[/QUOTE]I asked how much she wants today, she said it doesn't matter as long as I lick her Kitty. Then she came back with that if I give her $50 then we are going to have problems. This has happened once before. I gave her $300 and she lost her shit. So I'm going to do $250, we are supposed to meet this week, but I may cancel.