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[QUOTE=OneNaughtyBear;7036215]I don't know how long it will last but it's looking good so far. I actually got cucked and had my appointment pushed back because some asshole extended his time with her. Any other girl and I would've left but she's worth the wait.
She's like an Elsa 2.0 with bigger tits and sucks way better dick.[/QUOTE]Y'all are hyping this girl up. Can't wait to see her this weekend. Is her BBBJ as wild as legendary Viet Rosie?
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You know that you can just turn the lights on, right? But anyhow, I don't think lack of chemistry can really be blamed on poor lighting LOL. I didn't have good chemistry with Ena either. I don't think many guys did. Theres a difference between bad chemistry and bad attitude. But my retarded brain still compelled me to see her a bunch of times. Such a pretty pussy and Bush. Great semi soft ass too.[/QUOTE]Yoko is currently in Room5. I thought that she looked better with the lights on. RS8 Room5 and Room6 are still the tits for me.
[QUOTE=DrunkenKid;7036342]Yoko's boobies are real. Half Korean and half Japanese. Good English. Very horny girl that just wants to please you and make you cum. Only negative is that she ran away from the cock during DS. She is in room5, which is the room that RS8 gives to their top girl. Ichika might be jealous.[/QUOTE]#5 is because of Salacia. Meg did start in there and so did the super horny girl Reika.
#3 is a good room since that's where Sadsuki was and a few other good ones. Ichika room now. Quite a few good ones come thru #3 but #5 is definitely the best room since it has a desk too and more spacious. Ichika showed up late here anyway, it's not like they will move Yoko out of the blue.
#4 has one GREAT girl only. Yoko Amazon. There were some other decent girls like another Vietnamese girl but never a true star.
#6 has gotten quite a few good ones. Mina (she did go #7 first but this time #6. Suya, Vietnamese hot chick, forgot her name. Yuki (the one I forgot way too soon, tall girl, great pussy one).
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;7036577]#5 is because of Salacia. Meg did start in there and so did the super horny girl Reika.
#3 is a good room since that's where Sadsuki was and a few other good ones. Ichika room now. Quite a few good ones come thru #3 but #5 is definitely the best room since it has a desk too and more spacious. Ichika showed up late here anyway, it's not like they will move Yoko out of the blue.
#4 has one GREAT girl only. Yoko Amazon. There were some other decent girls like another Vietnamese girl but never a true star.
#6 has gotten quite a few good ones. Mina (she did go #7 first but this time #6. Suya, Vietnamese hot chick, forgot her name. Yuki (the one I forgot way too soon, tall girl, great pussy one).[/QUOTE]YMMV Yuki is in Room6. Wasn't Troublemaker Yuki in Room3? Nice tits Monika was Room2? I need to pay attention to non Room5 rooms some more. I think pound for pound, RS8 has the the best overall rooms but their beds suck.
[QUOTE=Monthehunt;7036544]Y'all are hyping this girl up. Can't wait to see her this weekend. Is her BBBJ as wild as legendary Viet Rosie?[/QUOTE]A lot of senior perverts can't wait until she shows up. I'm rock hard thinking about her. My first session with her, I finished in doggie then pulled out and she shot a blob of my cum back at me, because she was so tight. My last session with her is with her on her knees at the base of the bed in NYSE Room5 just sucking me off for a goodbye CIM.
[QUOTE=DrunkenKid;7036605]YMMV Yuki is in Room6. Wasn't Troublemaker Yuki in Room3? Nice tits Monika was Room2? I need to pay attention to non Room5 rooms some more. I think pound for pound, RS8 has the the best overall rooms but their beds suck.[/QUOTE]Yes YMMV small Yuki in #6 now in a diff room at first I think.
Troublemaker Yuki. She was in #6 first then moved to #3 after. Idk why. OH! The renovations. I think it was due to the renovations cuz shit was piled up in that hallway.
Monika indeed was in #2 at first. I think she went to a different room after she came back from the failed SE attempt.
Yuki the super hot one that's in DC. She's so busy right now so no date for when she will come up at all. Last time she never made it back to NYC after making bank in DC. I think she'll only come up if it dries up for her in DC. I'm not going down to DC to CIP her.
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Yuki the super hot one that's in DC. She's so busy right now so no date for when she will come up at all. Last time she never made it back to NYC after making bank in DC. I think she'll only come up if it dries up for her in DC. I'm not going down to DC to CIP her.[/QUOTE]We'll have to tag her as Etsuko. Fake Tits Yuki doesn't sound endearing at all.
[QUOTE=FreeWally;7018621]Hi, I am an OG poster to ISG for Japan, wrote several guides. Japan has a lot of fun, but "BBFS with young and beautiful Japanese girls" is not one of them. For starters, do you speak fluent Japanese? Well, there goes 98% of people here. NYC is better for that reason alone. Any English speaker here can BBFS young and beautiful Japanese girls here without speaking any Japanese. Whereas English only is a non-starter in Japan, you end up paying the gaijin tax with access to a tiny fraction of the girls who will take you. It ends up costing more for lower quality.
Let's suppose you do speak fluent Japanese. I more or less do now. The fact is, Japan has so many other sex shops besides FS that the cutest and youngest girls rarely work FS, let alone offer bb. It is too complicated to explain in one post here but with delivery health FS is not guaranteed and depends on you vibing with the girl and then negotiating the tip. Basically, FS itself is an upcharge and YMMV. Bb is not common or guaranteed. FS is not even advertised. So here we have the two problems that you might not even get FS or bb, and for market reasons the girl is not likely to be young or beautiful (let alone both). Due to the US paying way more, young and beautiful girls are more likely to come here anyways. If not the US, then Hong Kong, Taiwan, Macau, and other neighboring countries that are friendly. As exotic offerings, demanding a much higher pay than Japan. I won't go into the business side of why but they cannot make as good money in Japan.
So count yourself lucky. Check out ISG for all the other fun things you can do in Japan besides FS. That is where Japan shines. Like this:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=6992852#post6992852[/URL]
Even Japanese native customers struggle to find young and beautiful Japanese girls. It is the exception rather than the norm.
The further from FS the service, the younger and cuter the girls tend to be. There are exceptions but you are not going to be happy hoping for exceptions.[/QUOTE]Its almost pointless for me to write an after action report regarding my 3 weeks in Japan, because Wally has pretty much nailed it in his posts. I think the only point I would disagree on is regarding the quality at the pink salons. I went to a place in Kyoto that did have a young cute girls. Wouldn't do it again since I need more than just a blow job to really enjoy myself, but it was a fun time. Here's the link if anyone's interested: [URL]https://www.n-cats.com/top[/URL].
The long short of it is that I had tons of fun in Japan. But even my best pay 4 play experiences there don't come anywhere near my best NYC experiences. Sure it's more expensive in NYC, but honestly once you factor in the higher quality, better service, plus the convenience, it's well worth the extra cash IMO. Will copy paste the post I left on ISG comparing the two.
On balance, I would say go to Japan for the food, the sights and the regular girls. But for the Japanese ****** just stay in Manhattan.
[QUOTE=DrunkenKid;7036661]We'll have to tag her as Etsuko. Fake Tits Yuki doesn't sound endearing at all.[/QUOTE]Agree on this 100%. Way too many jgirls named yuki. I can't keep up. LOL.
(1) Quality: I'm realizing now that we get some really hot girls in NYC. The Japanese agents send us good shit. They are not wasting overseas flights and rooms on ugly girls. Plus they make a commission off these girls. If the agents send hot young girls who get lots of bookings, well then everybody makes more money for it. We even get some hot young girls and JAV stars who only work overseas. I've met a number of J-girls like this now. It's a combination of the money overseas being so much better and the fact that some girls would rather not service Japanese customers. I fucked hot AV girls in NY like Rin Asahi, Ayase Kokoro and Yume Ayakawa plus many other hot young ones who are overseas only girls. A lot of high quality J-pussies apparently don't work in Japan.
(2) Service: If you're a foreigner with no Japanese, service is better in the USA IMO. The girls are much friendlier and often have some English. I think a lot of them really step up their game while they're on tour overseas. They want to get good feedback, good reviews and make a lot of money before they go home. If they're not good service, many US shops / agencies will give them the boot. In Japan I got screwed with some providers who were older, not very attractive or just not friendly and not good service. Many girls there don't want to do kiss or 69 for example. These are basic services with J-girls in NYC and the stores require it. But in Japan it seems like the girls and the Soaplands don't give a shit. You're just some gaijin who will be gone in a week or two after all. So if you're not happy at the end of the session, well tough shit. They already got your money anyways. I see lots of guys on international threads talking about soapland sessions where the girl would only jerk them off or just tried to run down the clock. That shit would never happen in NY and if it did, the girl would either step up her game real fast or she would be gone.
(3) Bait and switch BS: Another big advantage to the USA Is you can actually see the girl before you commit and turn over the money. I've lost count of how many times I walked on a girl in NY because I didn't like what I saw in person. In Japan, you can't do this, and they don't offer lineups. Whether it's delivery health or Soaplands, you pay up front prior to seeing the girl in person and there's a clearly stated no refund policy. As a result, they can bait and switch the hell out of you. I think I did about 6 soapland visits there. Happiness soapland in Sapporo was amazing and I got 60 minutes mat play plus creampie for 40 k all in. Also had a good time at dolce in Yoshiwara for around the same money, but no BBFS there and both these girls wouldn't really kiss. The other soapie visits were just okay, and 1 or 2 were terrible. One store in Yokohama (nice lady iirc) really screwed me and gave me a gross fat chick for about 25 k. Most of the soaps I went to ranged in price from 20 k - 40 k. I don't really see the sense in doing a high class soap for over 70 k, sorta feels like a tourist trap. That's NY money, and I'd rather spend it in NY where I have more control and won't get fucked over just for being a foreigner with no Japanese. I also did delivery health in Sapporo with an agency called college girl kiss, but the girl was terrible. Total bait and switch. She was probably early 30's and overweight when I was expecting a hot college girl. I cancelled and got a partial 10 k refund of the 34 k I spent on her. Didn't even want to play with her when I saw her in person. It was that bad, and I had to fight like hell just to get that small partial refund from the agency.
(4) As a foreigner with no Japanese, you will not have access the full roster at Soaplands. Many of the Soaplands I visited only offered 1, maybe 2 girls to foreigners who can't speak Japanese. In my limited experience, if a soap only offers you one girl, you should probably walk. The pictures are never accurate and you won't really know what you're getting until you see the girl in person. Dolce in Yoshiwara was one of the few spots that actually gave me a roster of 5-8 girls to choose from. The Soapland in Sapporo that I visited wouldn't let me choose the girl as a foreigner, but management asked what my preferences were and did a pretty damn good job of accommodating. In my case, they gave me a mid 20's slim girl with cute face and good tits and ass, so I was quite happy. Most of the other soaps did not give me hot young girls to choose from though. Obviously there are no barriers like this in NYC. You can book whichever J-girls you want, as long as they're working / available of course.
(5) Big wins in Kabuki plus some fun times in Tobita: Honestly I probably had the most in Japan with the tachinbo in Kabukicho. Rates vary between 10 k - 40 k and you actually get to see the girl first, negotiate and feel her out before the money is exchanged. If you're a foreigner with no Japanese, you don't want there to be a middle man like a soapland, because the middle man will fuck you over. Better to be able to negotiate directly with the girl. Okubo park is the notorious hot spot for these chicks but you can find them all over Kabukicho working to feed their host club addictions. Kabukicho is like ground zero for host addict J-girls haha. Some of the girls are real shit attitude and want a lot of money, but there are also gems. You need to negotiate everything up front before you take them back to the room, that way you know what you're getting. It does take some practice, and some luck. Met one girl here who was only 19, super shy / submissive and I creampied her for 30 k. Another girl I found here was half Filipina half Japanese and I fucked her twice with creampie plus she stayed overnight all for just 20 k. The good girls usually get picked up quick, but sometimes you can hit a home run here and a find a nice fresh young cutie for a good price. Service is a mixed bag, but then again, it is at the Soaplands too. At least here you have some control over what kind of quality and service you're getting. Also found some very cute girls at Tobita Shinchi in Osaka, you can find vids of it on YouTube if you don't know of it. Many cute young girls and you get to see them before you pay, but it's just FH service with no kissing, no BJ, no DATY. I did get lucky with one girl who let me creampie her and do light GFE shit for 36 k all in. But overall I wasn't a huge fan of the shinchis. At 26 k for 30 minutes it's basically a slightly more expensive pretty yuki with hotter girls. Half the fun is just walking the street and shopping around.
Overall NY was better for J-hoes in my experience. The food was great though and everything was pretty cheap with the exchange rate. Also Shinjuku and Shibuya were like 65% hot young women. Shit was like NYC's K-town but on steroids. Pay 4 play was probably better in Thailand. Will post a report about that next.
I think it's planned for 2 weeks and then off to NYC for another 2, but I guess things can change depending on how the money tree blows. Already people breaking out the piggy bank for her. Wild but not surprised. Kind of giving me some FOMO tbh.
And JB doing Ami a bit dirty posting that text message review. LOL.
[QUOTE=PokerBrah;7036613]Yuki the super hot one that's in DC. She's so busy right now so no date for when she will come up at all. Last time she never made it back to NYC after making bank in DC. I think she'll only come up if it dries up for her in DC. I'm not going down to DC to CIP her.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JavLuvr;7036711]Its almost pointless for me to write an after action report regarding my 3 weeks in Japan, because Wally has pretty much nailed it in his posts. I think the only point I would disagree on is regarding the quality at the pink salons. I went to a place in Kyoto that did have a young cute girls. Wouldn't do it again since I need more than just a blow job to really enjoy myself, but it was a fun time. Here's the link if anyone's interested: [URL]https://www.n-cats.com/top[/URL].
The long short of it is that I had tons of fun in Japan. But even my best pay 4 play experiences there don't come anywhere near my best NYC experiences. Sure it's more expensive in NYC, but honestly once you factor in the higher quality, better service, plus the convenience, it's well worth the extra cash IMO. Will copy paste the post I left on ISG comparing the two.
On balance, I would say go to Japan for the food, the sights and the regular girls. But for the Japanese ****** just stay in Manhattan.[/QUOTE]Great to hear, I did not get enough chance to monger in Kyoto but have heard good things about the area. You know more than me on that, and I hope others can chime in if they have a chance. One thing you and I agree on is how lucky NYC is as far as the FS scene. They are sending top quality girls to collect our cum morning til night. Not to mention bb and video are not standard in Japan. Even FS itself is upcharge when using delivey health (but standard if doing soap). 80% of delivery girls will do fs for 1 man ($70) but it gives girls a chance to refuse a disgusting customer (or magnum) or if the girl really doesn't do fs.
My experience with pink salons were in Shinjuku where competition puts pink salons at the bottom of the barrel for reasons I'm not sure of. Shops are very regional where for example if you want an oppai pub you go to Shinjuku and intense competition keeps it cheap and full of 7's to 10's, all girls 20 to 25. So not surprised you had a much better experience in Kyoto. Different cities have their specialties. Competition also keeps things honest, no different to how NYC mongers have a choice so shops have to compete on girls and service.
Soap in Japan can be real hit and miss unless you find your girl. Then you reserve her or get her LINE and see her UTR out of the shop. Locals know to lower their expectations a bit because it is kind of a gatcha game of gambling. On the other hand, some mongers know places in Osaka like Tobita still have cute young girls for FS that you can preview yourself and pick from. So again, very regional. That actually used to be all over in Japan before things got shut down from NIMBY politics. Specifically, I know the Amsterdam-style booths in Koganecho in Yokohama were all bulldozed as a promise of the new Yokohama mayor. The same mayor who later had to resign over a hostess scandal. I actually waved to him one day as he stood on a campaign truck driving around town for his re-election, and he waved back. He seemed so cheerful and nice I almost forgave him. Almost.
Thanks for your report. I will be an old man soon enough and my only hope is others take up the torch and fuck the women of Japan for me. Even if the FS in NYC is better, there is still a special life adventure to be had. Naughty shops you can't find here in the US for things below the FS level at bargain rates.
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And JB doing Ami a bit dirty posting that text message review. LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL!
"Ami was great. But the girl that I really wanted to see was Yuki. When is she available!
So what's the consensus for YMMV Yuki? Picture accurate? GFE? Worth the time?
[QUOTE=JavLuvr;7036727](1) Quality: .. I fucked hot AV girls in NY like Rin Asahi, Ayase Kokoro and Yume Ayakawa plus many other hot young ones who are overseas only girls. A lot of high quality J-pussies apparently don't work in Japan.[/QUOTE]To add to this, let me show you all something for those who dream about banging JAV stars in Japan. This is Tora no Ana in Shibuya, where JAV star AIKA works. This is her profile:
[URL]https://tora-h-shibuya.jp/detail.php?id=5963[/URL]
Scroll down and you see on her schedule, it's all dashes. She isn't working this week. She wasn't working last week. She won't be working next week. You get the idea. AIKA has been on their site for years (more than 5) and probably works a few weeks here and there. I've seen it. So yes, you can book AIKA, even I want to book AIKA, but it's just not very likely. She is promoting the shop as much as she is actually working there. Some high rollers probably got her LINE and are running their weekly train on her right now as we speak.
I see they are going to offer Ruka Inaba. I love thin little girls but she is my exception. Such a cute baby face. Next Spring I'll be in Japan and if I manage to book her or a JAV star you better believe I can't keep the secret. I will write a whole guide. But it is not easy as I said.
The second thing most people don't know is even if AIKA is working, you can't book her. Tora no Ana requires you to book their bottom tier girls first, then rank up to AIKA. Like how you can't buy an exclusive Ferrari without first buying 1 or 2 crappy Ferraris.
There are other shops where ex-JAV stars can be booked directly first try, but they are 95% B-listers. Believe me, I recognize 5000 JAV stars and still more often than not these "JAV stars" are girls who starred in 1-3 films. Heck, even I have starred in way more porn than these girls. It's not special.
There is a jgirl some of you have seen, that also works at Tora no Ana Shibuya. Anyways.
[QUOTE=JavLuvr;7036727](2) Service: If you're a foreigner with no Japanese, service is better in the USA IMO. The girls are much friendlier and often have some English..These are basic services with J-girls in NYC and the stores require it. But in Japan it seems like the girls and the Soaplands don't give a shit. [/QUOTE]It cannot be overstated how nice it is to be able to bang as an English speaker here. Vs me spending years learning Japanese just to bang over there. You guys are first class customers here. I am a second class customer trying to slip in just to get what the locals get. Also as you said, jgirls here gravitate a bit towards kgirl service, they have to. The tongue is deeper, the BBBJ sloppier, and BBFSCIP is on the table. It can happen in Japan too I'm just talking averages. Both looks and service average significantly higher here. Jgirls are indirectly competing against kgirls after all.
And believe me, even local Japanese customers don't get to complain. There is some QA and shops will enforce a minimum standard, but that minimum is lower. At korgs if a girl isn't good enough they get cut fast. See it happen all the time. I've said before I have often been asked by the booker if they should keep a girl or not. It takes just a few customers saying no for her to be cut on the spot, that very day.
[QUOTE=JavLuvr;7036727](3) Bait and switch BS:[/QUOTE]Two additional protections here are USAG and TER. The LA boards are brutal. There is a thread dedicated to exposing rebrands asap. Guys learn pretty soon who is good or not.
They would never send me an ugly girl at a korg. I've been going 11 years and it's never happened once, not saying it's impossible just really not expected. I've even gone blind TOFTT for years without even reading reviews, and most girls were attractive. Even the okay girls were amazing service. This was the case 74 out of 75 girls I've seen at korgs (9 jgirls 69 kgirls) so I have no complaint.
Great to hear you could succeed with the streetwalkers in Kabukicho. Some are gems as you say, and you get to pick yourself. The ultimate speed dating. I think I may have read your report on ISG and as you say it is a good idea to have a hotel nearby so it's not too far to walk. What an adventure, this is why I don't dissuade people from going Japan even if they have access to NYC girls. There is a lot of different fun to be had.
For those going to Japan anyways, here is my most definitive guide. For everything besides fs, I think Japan has an edge on wild and naughty shops:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=7021901&viewfull=1#post7021901[/URL]