"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=BobLobLa;5239049]A) If I am going the "showcase showdown of cash and prizes" route vs. All $$ allowance, I always tell them to make a wish list on Amazon.

B) You can always find creative ways to leverage non-cash allowances. Someone new to town -- have them fill a shopping cart on Bed Bath and Beyond for their new place. I have their membership, so I get 20% off.

C) Tech and related items can be bought at STaples or best buy -- put it on the company credit card and it looks like office purchases (they joys of being self employed).[/QUOTE]Not only self-employed, but sans SO I'd guess. I'd have a lot more flexibility if I didn't have to worry about electronic records of my purchases.

BTW, one other thing about the wish list I just thought to specifically mention. Some of you (not me) are interested in getting your SB to open all portals. When I see a girl who has several butt plugs, bunny tails, etc. On her wish list, that is a good indication she's receptive to the back door.

[QUOTE=BlueEyedMan58;5239065]Curious if anyone would be willing to share what if any changes in how they meet and relate to SB's in the covid world vs pre-2020? Also, whether vaccination has or would change that?

(I ask because I've been in "hibernation" for the better part of a year, but eventually the bear gets so hungry he has to come out of the cave. Thanks.).[/QUOTE]Turns out, not much changed for me. Risky, I know, but it's turned out OK. Takes more work to find a SB or two, but that's always part of the game. Last time I was on SA, I found 2 SBs in Oct who I see 1-2 x a month still. In Jan, someone I texted with a year ago got back in touch, and I can call her when I want. But, it might be time for a change and I'm thinking of getting back on SA for a new subscription. P.S., I'm vaccinated now.

Wonder what BS excuse girls will use now. When most of us get vaccinated. Getting my 2nd shot in 2 weeks.

I had no problems meeting up with at less 2 new girls a month in all of 2020. Just wish there were more college girls out there.

[QUOTE=LikItFun;5239816]Turns out, not much changed for me. Risky, I know, but it's turned out OK. Takes more work to find a SB or two, but that's always part of the game. Last time I was on SA, I found 2 SBs in Oct who I see 1-2 x a month still. In Jan, someone I texted with a year ago got back in touch, and I can call her when I want. But, it might be time for a change and I'm thinking of getting back on SA for a new subscription. P.S., I'm vaccinated now.[/QUOTE]

In response to all the "I'm only doing online baby until the pandemic is over " I say don't worry I'm now vaccinated and get tested weekly (I do) so we can meet. Girl today replied, oh well I have Lupus. LOL blocked-.

Hopefully, the online-only lame trend will fade in the months to come.

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5240156]Wonder what BS excuse girls will use now. When most of us get vaccinated. Getting my 2nd shot in 2 weeks.

I had no problems meeting up with at less 2 new girls a month in all of 2020. Just wish there were more college girls out there.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5239561]Yeah, I had an active membership right when it began, I pursued with a couple of POTs I had at that time. There was a lot of checking each other out and preamble to be sure that each was OK. I felt both were taking the max precautions, and even though I have a SO at home (it would be hell if I got it / passed it on), I was willing to risk it. One I got to the FC twice. Tall slender Romanian doctor, 27 YO, big bolt-ons, puss too tight for me, too much fake moaning, a little too transactional, so I quite responding to her texts. A paralegal working from home stood me up on the way to the FC.

I have many other POTs on the line. I am checking in with every single one about their virus status. It is good there are a lot of nurses on the site, that is getting many of them vaccinated. I have run into a few who both had COVID and have gotten vaccinated. A few others are essential workers so got vaccinated. Those who tell me just that they are limiting their contacts and wearing their masks, I put into lower priority. However, if the case rates in my area (California) continue to drop, that won't be so much of a worry.
[/QUOTE]Not to be that guy, but seriously? These girls lie as if their lives depended on it so I would never trust anything real, such health to one of these girls. A 27 yo doctor with bolt-ons? Please. You do understand that at 27 she'd be starting her residency and have no time to hang on SA or meet SD's. It's more likely she's a hooker with a cover story.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;5246060]Not to be that guy, but seriously? These girls lie as if their lives depended on it so I would never trust anything real, such health to one of these girls. A 27 yo doctor with bolt-ons? Please. You do understand that at 27 she'd be starting her residency and have no time to hang on SA or meet SD's. It's more likely she's a hooker with a cover story.[/QUOTE]This is the most accurate piece of info that any newbie reading the SB forums should understand. If these chicks have their mouth open (and it's not being used to suck your cock) they are most likely lying about something. It's simply the nature of the game.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;5246060]Not to be that guy, but seriously? These girls lie as if their lives depended on it so I would never trust anything real, such health to one of these girls. A 27 yo doctor with bolt-ons? Please. You do understand that at 27 she'd be starting her residency and have no time to hang on SA or meet SD's. It's more likely she's a hooker with a cover story.[/QUOTE]I respect you and Mr. Roger, you've posted a ton and obviously have a lot of experience. Me too, however. It isn't logical to me that you can make a judgment about a situation from a simple statement I made, with no facts. We all have cover stories. With respect to that girl, she said she had a medical degree from an eastern European university, but to be licensed in the US would have to do a residency. She was spending her time studying for her boards so she could enter one. I am a professional in the biomedical field who has interacted with countless people like she claimed to be. There was nothing about her knowledge that said anything other than she really did have medical training. I enjoyed interacting with her b / c she was smart, something I like in a SB.

And then, just generally, as I have said elsewhere. Everyone gets the sugar bowl they're looking for. If you regard SBs with suspicion, you'll get the ones that deserve your suspicion. Of course, I have been mistaken about a girl, but I've never been ripped off. I have had ongoing arrangements w / girls who were Playboy models (when younger. I saw the photos. No doubt). I have had arrangements with salt of the earth types who I would trust quite a bit. But not with my actual identity. Maintaining control is always the way to go for me. My risk / reward demands it.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5247582]I respect you and Mr. Roger, you've posted a ton and obviously have a lot of experience. Me too, however. It isn't logical to me that you can make a judgment about a situation from a simple statement I made, with no facts. We all have cover stories. With respect to that girl, she said she had a medical degree from an eastern European university, but to be licensed in the US would have to do a residency. She was spending her time studying for her boards so she could enter one. I am a professional in the biomedical field who has interacted with countless people like she claimed to be. There was nothing about her knowledge that said anything other than she really did have medical training. I enjoyed interacting with her b / c she was smart, something I like in a SB.

And then, just generally, as I have said elsewhere. Everyone gets the sugar bowl they're looking for. If you regard SBs with suspicion, you'll get the ones that deserve your suspicion. Of course, I have been mistaken about a girl, but I've never been ripped off. I have had ongoing arrangements w / girls who were Playboy models (when younger. I saw the photos. No doubt). I have had arrangements with salt of the earth types who I would trust quite a bit. But not with my actual identity. Maintaining control is always the way to go for me. My risk / reward demands it.[/QUOTE]Just because we have cover stories or hide some of our personal info doesn't mean we necessarily lie. If a girl tells you she's had covid or has been vaccinated, I would never take her word for it. Anything and I mean ANYTHING I can't verify independently with a SB is questionable. If some girl tells you you'll be ok cause she's vaccinated, I wouldn't accept that without some proof. That's all. Many guys come on here and go "my SB said this or that thing, she got this much or did nothing with other guys, etc. " and what I'm saying is "did you verify? If not, how do you know for sure? If it's not verified, it's not real.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;5248255]Just because we have cover stories or hide some of our personal info doesn't mean we necessarily lie. If a girl tells you she's had covid or has been vaccinated, I would never take her word for it. Anything and I mean ANYTHING I can't verify independently with a SB is questionable. If some girl tells you you'll be ok cause she's vaccinated, I wouldn't accept that without some proof. That's all. Many guys come on here and go "my SB said this or that thing, she got this much or did nothing with other guys, etc. " and what I'm saying is "did you verify? If not, how do you know for sure? If it's not verified, it's not real.[/QUOTE]Some things can be verified, some things we make our own assessments on. On any girl even close to 'young', I ask them to 'promise' me they are at least 18. Some offer their licenses, or promise their licenses if / when we meet. I usually just say something like 'I had to ask', which I do.

I have a CDC vaccination card, I would give a (name redacted) screen shot of that to anyone who wanted it. Maybe I would ask that in return. And, of course, right now, anyone who said they have a vaccine who isn't in one of the obvious groups (nope, I am not messaging with 65+ POTs), it's fair to ask why they are getting the vaccine. I have specifically approached several nurses and nursing students, prolific in my area, and asked if they've been vaccinated, and they have all said no, interestingly.

And you were simply incorrect about that 27 YO doctor.

I had a very pretty / hot Asian coed POT on the phone today who said she was getting 1 K per meet from her last arrangement. I responded with the polite declination I've used since I've seen it laid out in these pages. "I am sure there are a few girls on the site who get that, and you are certainly a very attractive / appealing woman, you could be one of them. However, that's not something that I would be able to do, so if I were you, I'd try to track down that guy who gave you that, if that is what you really care about. " Of course I didn't believe her. She can try to snooker me. But I have zero relationship with this girl and no reason to trust her. But even if I did I could never give her that. I said I wouldn't negotiate with someone I'd never met. Ultimately, I killed the whole conversation of mental masturbation and sent her on her way.

Anyone have any experience with this one?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0172d660-0d0f-4cca-a3df-380a6d336e42[/URL]

Had a strange encounter just now. IDK if she was trying to rip me off or if she chickened out or if it was real but 10 minutes after getting to my place she answered her phone and got emotional. Said her grandfather had a stroke and she had to go to the hospital and left. Still asked for the donation though.

[QUOTE=FanRat;5249065]Anyone have any experience with this one?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0172d660-0d0f-4cca-a3df-380a6d336e42[/URL]

Had a strange encounter just now. IDK if she was trying to rip me off or if she chickened out or if it was real but 10 minutes after getting to my place she answered her phone and got emotional. Said her grandfather had a stroke and she had to go to the hospital and left. Still asked for the donation though.[/QUOTE]Maybe she was on something but the stories tend to change with her each time. Feel free to message me but I had a few good encounters with her and some not so. She's been reviewed on here a few times.

[QUOTE=FanRat;5249065]Anyone have any experience with this one?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0172d660-0d0f-4cca-a3df-380a6d336e42[/URL]

Had a strange encounter just now. IDK if she was trying to rip me off or if she chickened out or if it was real but 10 minutes after getting to my place she answered her phone and got emotional. Said her grandfather had a stroke and she had to go to the hospital and left. Still asked for the donation though.[/QUOTE]I did a quick search back for posts that quoted her profile on SA -- except for KevinCalormis. Not one had actually seen her or got her into bed! Her MO seems to flake! I am thinking the phone call was planned.

[QUOTE=SaTraveler;5249166]I did a quick search back for posts that quoted her profile on SA -- except for KevinCalormis. Not one had actually seen her or got her into bed! Her MO seems to flake! I am thinking the phone call was planned.[/QUOTE]When I was a rookie I had a woman come into my room asked for the donation which I gave her and she said I have to go out in the hall to make a phone call and took off!!

Lesson learned Never give money up front no deposits ahead of time etc.

[QUOTE=FanRat;5249065]Anyone have any experience with this one?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0172d660-0d0f-4cca-a3df-380a6d336e42[/URL]

Had a strange encounter just now. IDK if she was trying to rip me off or if she chickened out or if it was real but 10 minutes after getting to my place she answered her phone and got emotional. Said her grandfather had a stroke and she had to go to the hospital and left. Still asked for the donation though.[/QUOTE]I should have listened to Kevin, but despite his warning, I decided to meet up with her. She has a very cute face but her body is pretty messed up. She lost a lot of weight and her skin is extremely loose all around her body. Started chitchat and she started giving a BJ for like 30 seconds then tried to ride me even before I got hard. No protection and she would pretty much let you do whatever you want, but tried to rush you and since I didn't finish in 15 minutes she made up some excuse that she had to go somewhere. It was so wacky I didn't know what the hell was going on. She asks for the full amount (which I negotiated to be pretty low) and said that what she was doing would only take about an hour and to come back to hang out later. I offered to give half then and half when I saw her later, but she started begging and said she would take care of me later. I probably should have just given her half and left to never see her again but blue balls got the best of me. Of course, she texts back and says her meeting is taking too long and she would see me another day. She then tries to reschedule a few times and claims that she got in a car accident and asked if I could give her a prepayment for the next meet. I should have just blocked her but she started a sob story.

So she is definitely a scammer but you could probably deposit a load or two into her. I recommend very far lighting though a her loose skin is quite the boner killer.

Just a little tip here -- as most of us on here put the URL for the SBs profile when we do reports on them.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0172d660-0d0f-4cca-a3df-380a6d336e42[/URL]

If you want to search a thread for that girl to see what others have reported -- you can search using the end bit of the URL AFTER the dash.

So. For say Amberrvaxo shown above -- search the USASG thread for just 380 a6 d336 e42.

It works!

SA.