"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Grafenberg;5203813]Let your membership lapse and see how many messages and visits you suddenly get.[/QUOTE]Created a profile on SA randomly and the amount of traffic I was getting to my profile was shocking. I usually do decent on dating apps, but I was getting visited or messaged by multiple women interested throughout the day. Was about to message one I was interested in too and saw that you need a membership to do so and the costs of it. It was the most bummed I have been in a while, because they were all attractive compared to what you might see in the ads. I do okay for myself, but man 99 dollars a month for membership is wild to me.

[QUOTE=Truth777;5205567]Created a profile on SA randomly and the amount of traffic I was getting to my profile was shocking. I usually do decent on dating apps, but I was getting visited or messaged by multiple women interested throughout the day. Was about to message one I was interested in too and saw that you need a membership to do so and the costs of it. It was the most bummed I have been in a while, because they were all attractive compared to what you might see in the ads. I do okay for myself, but man 99 dollars a month for membership is wild to me.[/QUOTE]I said same while back. I use several dating apps tinder BLK etc and I probably get just as much out of it as I would with SA. I have hooked up with 4 so far 3 with BLK one with tinder. Being a older white guy on BLK has made me stand out and they know exactly what I'm looking for and they are usually straight up about what they want. It's worked for me and it's free LOL. Be safe.

[QUOTE=Jcn1965;5206481]I said same while back. I use several dating apps tinder BLK etc and I probably get just as much out of it as I would with SA. I have hooked up with 4 so far 3 with BLK one with tinder. Being a older white guy on BLK has made me stand out and they know exactly what I'm looking for and they are usually straight up about what they want. It's worked for me and it's free LOL. Be safe.[/QUOTE]Always good replies from you man. I haven't tried Tinder for whatever reason, but better late than never. Heard of BLK, but haven't used it. Going to have to give that a try as well. I've mostly been on POF, Okcupid, and Badoo and have had some success. With all the black women you review I just assumed you were an older black guy. Little did I know you were just a man with diverse taste. Good to see LOL be safe man.

Also interesting, I have seen some of the escorts who post ads on these apps looking for serious relationships and I just think to myself wait we literally just had a session recently LOL. Anyway, for anyone else reading be on the lookout some of these women on there are very willing to be a consistent UTR. Go on the apps at odd hours of the night usually those girls are freaky. At least that's what I have noticed.

[QUOTE=Truth777;5207131]Always good replies from you man. I haven't tried Tinder for whatever reason, but better late than never. Heard of BLK, but haven't used it. Going to have to give that a try as well. I've mostly been on POF, Okcupid, and Badoo and have had some success. With all the black women you review I just assumed you were an older black guy. Little did I know you were just a man with diverse taste. Good to see LOL be safe man.

Also interesting, I have seen some of the escorts who post ads on these apps looking for serious relationships and I just think to myself wait we literally just had a session recently LOL. Anyway, for anyone else reading be on the lookout some of these women on there are very willing to be a consistent UTR. Go on the apps at odd hours of the night usually those girls are freaky. At least that's what I have noticed.[/QUOTE]LOL too funny. Nope I'm a middle age white guy who pretty much exclusively sees more exotic type of women. Latinas Black Colombian anything that has little more tint. Now I have seen couple of white providers but they have to be dimes. Just my thing. I've also seen the ones you talking about posting on stg and BLK or tinder. I've hit couple of them up never got response. Be safe.

So I usually search images of the girls to see what I am dealing with or IF the pics are fake. All as normal due diligence.

But of recent this has been abysmal so wondering what others are doing? When I find an advert / post I right click on pic and copy image location and then past that url into the box on the search places.

I use Google Images and get the most hits. Because I use tor browser I am often having to do the captcha thing. Of recent have noticed I don't always get result from the link and with some websites I get an error. Image is too large. Interestingly, when I save one of the "too big" pictures and then upload it to GI search, THEN I get results.

Also use Tineye, but that is universally useless and almost never get any hits or get an error. Oops, Something went wrong. Please try your search again.

I see that Bing has an image search too but it's pretty much useless as well.

So what am I missing? IS there some other way t search and get results?

Google doesn't seem to do very well. Have gotten zippty results only to find everyone of the woman's profile pics is on her social media once I find her true identity elsewhere (Linked in Premium is a gold mine for its search function for professional gals, and some college students. Employer, college will get you 75% of the way they're).

No I've never been kicked out or a hotel for making too much noise, but even the hotel would tell me that why I was being kicked out. They wouldn't evict with without a stated cause.

The TOS could be overcome. The biggest issue is it would not be a popular suit and no one wants to be the face of the suit.

[QUOTE=Tidad;5200724]You are going to have a long wait on that lawsuit and there are many circumstances where rule breaking (even if it's only in the opinion of the business) means you lose your money. Have you ever been kicked out of a hotel for being too loud? Even if you've only been there an hour, your money is GONE. If you accepted the user agreement by joining and paying, that money is never coming back.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BobLobLa;5208669]Google doesn't seem to do very well. Have gotten zippty results only to find everyone of the woman's profile pics is on her social media once I find her true identity elsewhere (Linked in Premium is a gold mine for its search function for professional gals, and some college students. Employer, college will get you 75% of the way they're).[/QUOTE]Well, FB profiles aren't indexed by google (not sure about other SM, but probably so), so it makes sense you wouldn't find a photo that a POT is using both on SM and SA.

[QUOTE=Madaboutmax;5199080]I agree with this. What I don't understand is how they can ban people with no explanation and no refund. I can see not wanting to give explanations to help people learn how to avoid a ban in the future, but they should at least refund the balance of their unused membership.

How can any business take your money for a service, refuse to provide that service and keep the money? So unethical and makes them liable for a class action suit, if someone had thr guts to go public with it.[/QUOTE]They provide an explanation. It's in their Terms of Service (TOS).

"W8 Tech may terminate Your Membership for any reason, with or without notice. If W8 Tech terminates Your Membership, You will not be entitled to any refund of unused subscription fees or unused credits. If Your Membership is terminated for any reason, all terms of this Agreement survive such termination, and continue in full force and effect, except any terms that by their nature expire or are fully satisfied. ".

If you think that there would be a long parade of men SA customers who want to put their name on a class action or other litigation -- um. . . "I don't think so. ".

I downloaded a free app called ImageSearch. It uses Google Bing Yandex Baidu and TinEye. Works well for me.

[QUOTE=Shampoo55;5207592]So I usually search images of the girls to see what I am dealing with or IF the pics are fake. All as normal due diligence.

But of recent this has been abysmal so wondering what others are doing? When I find an advert / post I right click on pic and copy image location and then past that url into the box on the search places.

I use Google Images and get the most hits. Because I use tor browser I am often having to do the captcha thing. Of recent have noticed I don't always get result from the link and with some websites I get an error. Image is too large. Interestingly, when I save one of the "too big" pictures and then upload it to GI search, THEN I get results.

Also use Tineye, but that is universally useless and almost never get any hits or get an error. Oops, Something went wrong. Please try your search again.

I see that Bing has an image search too but it's pretty much useless as well.

So what am I missing? IS there some other way t search and get results?[/QUOTE]

Does anyone know if Secrete Benefits accepts Vanilla Visa Pre paid credit card.

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;5218591]Does anyone know if Secrete Benefits accepts Vanilla Visa Pre paid credit card.[/QUOTE]I got on SecretBenefits thinking that the ability to message a POT forever is better than being able to message them only for the duration of the SA membership. It did not work out at all. Even though on SB POTs did respond and quite a few even gave their phone nos. And texted nothing came out of it. So with the lowest tier of 200 credits I messaged 20 POTs with 0 hits!

Even though the lowest tier on SA is $10 more than SB I got a few hits after just a couple of weeks and sometimes you get coupons for discounts on SA such as 25% for Valentine's Day.

[QUOTE=PghGuy2005;5218625]I got on SecretBenefits thinking that the ability to message a POT forever is better than being able to message them only for the duration of the SA membership. It did not work out at all. Even though on SB POTs did respond and quite a few even gave their phone nos. And texted nothing came out of it. So with the lowest tier of 200 credits I messaged 20 POTs with 0 hits!

Even though the lowest tier on SA is $10 more than SB I got a few hits after just a couple of weeks and sometimes you get coupons for discounts on SA such as 25% for Valentine's Day.[/QUOTE]I totally agree. However, now Seeking is charging 100 for a 30 day membership. That is bullshit. You know that will go up again. Everything is going up. Websites, AMPs, blowjobs. Is there going to be an end?

SA charging 100 for 30 day membership. It was 90 just last year. Before that it was something like 80.

A good and long blowjob you could get for an easy 50, at most. And I mean from good providers like Winter who didn't put any time limits. Now some of this bitches are charging 100 for QV.

Now AMPs are charging 50 for 30 min. Not so long ago a 30 min would be 30. Now it's 40 and now it's up at 50. The Massage are getting worse, the women are uglier. What the hell is going on. We cannot let this be the new normal.

[QUOTE=TheHobbyLobby;5219364]I totally agree. However, now Seeking is charging 100 for a 30 day membership. That is bullshit. You know that will go up again. Everything is going up. Websites, AMPs, blowjobs. Is there going to be an end?

SA charging 100 for 30 day membership. It was 90 just last year. Before that it was something like 80.

A good and long blowjob you could get for an easy 50, at most. And I mean from good providers like Winter who didn't put any time limits. Now some of this bitches are charging 100 for QV.

Now AMPs are charging 50 for 30 min. Not so long ago a 30 min would be 30. Now it's 40 and now it's up at 50. The Massage are getting worse, the women are uglier. What the hell is going on. We cannot let this be the new normal.[/QUOTE]My BMW was expensive, but I like how they drive. If you want quality you have to pay. Seriously, the cost of SA is in the noise for what we're doing w / SBs. It's one hotel room for one FC. If you have any game at all, after a month on SA, you will likely have met at least a few POTs, perhaps taken them to the FC, and have a long list of phone #s you can text with for the next few months. I only pay for a membership a month at a time, and perhaps once or twice a year. I like to browse at other times, putting profiles into my deep freeze to thaw out later.

So, in my view, this is why we are in the bowl. This was long ago and far far away from Richmond, so no need to be asking for her phone #. This was a 19 YO college student I met from SA. Just trying to make ends meet, take care of a little sister, and have some fun. Very sweet and nice. This absolutely smoking body. We met up one morning in a hotel room I had checked into the night before (I am dodging my SO). She was 45 min late, of course. She had an appointment she needed to get to, of course. Not having all the time I wanted, well, that just happens sometime. The allowance? IDK specifically, it was likely 300, just b / c that was my standard back then. She was there for that of course, but she also was very fascinated by the allure / kink of an older married guy. (I am 3 x her age). Unlike your average hooker, she didn't have a menu and I am 100% sure that I wasn't the 4th guy she'd been with that day. She wasn't making a living on the 'stroll', and I haven't seen her on SA (I keep up with it intermittently) in several years. I got in touch a few years back, she said she'd moved to northern California.

The experience w / her? Top notch. I love to eat young girls like her, you can see her peach in this photo. It was that plump and juicy. She came in about 5 minutes, and then was (sadly) too sensitive for me to keep going. We hopped into bed, she had just the most incredibly soft and smooth skin. You can't see her tits too well in this photo, but they were lovely and firm. A round robin of positions, she was no virgin of course but she'd never had someone put her ankles on his shoulders for deeper penetration, that was a highlight for her. I mean, what more can you ask than totally spontaneous, mutually enjoyable fucking with someone like this for an hour plus?! Maybe guys are getting that from escorts, but I'd be surprised there is access to someone this young and cute in that pool of girls.