There is no upsell at Kim's.
[QUOTE=Mmach;1213036]Nothing extra was offered or asked for. .[/QUOTE]If you want something ask for it.
A sad report about the state of the scene
[QUOTE=Phaik Naim; 1213511]So, not so long ago I went to see Lisa, based on reports here. She is very good looking with a tight little body. Overall, average massage. On the flip, wanted to discuss and collect tip immediately, both of which are turn-offs. Seems that there is a full menu available, although at a. 2 premium to what is considered normal, up and down the scale. The only thing I can figure you get for that premium is full reciprocation. DATY, etc. I opted for an untranslated french lesson, on which she cheated. Meaning much more hand than I would have liked. She couldn't seem to make it happen there, and wound up giving up, going standard NOVA to completion. She did try, but the not-quite-french, not-quite-standard method just didn't seem to do it.
All in, took a little longer than the half hour I requested, for which I was mildly chastised.
Given the average massage, the tip ratchet-up and discussion, the service itself, and the absence of a TS (usually one of my favorite parts) I would rate this experience as below-average to average. I probably won't repeat.
-PN[/QUOTE]It sounds like it's become a competition between the hobbyists and the parlors, with our side just trying to get the time and service we're promised, and their side trying to short us on both. Up front, they promise "gooduh massagi," while brazenly demanding "you giveuh me tip" in the middle, then complaining "tippuh no good" at the end.
While the Va. Massage scene was never as freewheeling as DC, it used to be that a good TS, quality massage, and a full session were part of the deal. I especially remember the original Golden (started across from Booeymonger in Georgetown and moved to Merrifield) as a great place. Connie spoke some of the earliest and best untranslated Asian I ever heard.
I've given up completely on the AMPs, and either just go for legit massage, or to the private-home providers. At least they have to build a reputation, and can't just milk a market based on the novelty of being a new face then go on "bacation."
Not my ATF, but a nice massagi
Visited Spa Castle today.
I like the facility. Very large rooms with high ceilings.
Suzi was my provider today. She is solidly shapely and fun to talk with.
Knows how to give a very good TS, massage.
This is not my ATF place, but it is a nice place and I recommend Suzi, Candy (and BeBe who I think departed some time ago).
Standard rates and standaard tip. Not examined, not discussed, politely accepted.
Be nice to the ladies.
PA
ACC: Life is Like a Box of Chocolates
Condo off Lee Highway in Arlington, easy access. (Thanks MB for the digits.) Since this seems to be an ongoing operation, I'm christening it ACC in the manner of the similar local operations. Chinese provider 'Sherry, ' wouldn't say her age, I'd say over 40. Very tall and slim, A cups, average face. Bubbly, affectionate personality. Said she lived in NYC for two years. Spoke little English. Seemed to take an immediate and genuine liking to me. Go figure. (I'm not FOBU, but neither am I frequently mistaken for Jon Hamm.)
She was relaxed, forthcoming and cooperative, which made the experience easy and fun although she is not the hot young type that really turns my crank. Seemed very easily aroused by DATY but stopped me before completion. I asked her why, she said something about blood going to her head, I couldn't understand what she meant. Farted while I was down there, we both laughed.
Refused to give BBBJ, gave covered BJ and different positions to completion. She was not in a hurry at all, but her phone kept ringing. At the end she said apologetically that MMS was watching the time. I think I was there exactly an hour. I asked if she would like to have dinner sometime. She said she doesn't get any time off, and I had the feeling she was telling the truth. I asked half-jokingly if she was a slave, but she didn't understand the question. Do the managers of these operations really control the providers that much?
Total damage: $.6 flat fee. As I was driving away, MMS called me and asked how it went. I said OK, not bad, not great. We exchanged first names and I thanked her. I like the idea of MMS knowing me and trusting me. She said a new provider is coming to this location in about 10 days.
Don't want to re-initiate the tipping discussion
[QUOTE=Badboycik;1215524]Went by Kim's and ST. Everyone busy. Decided to try Prince. Big Mistake. Unattractive woman named Bebe stopped on flip to ask me how much I give. I told her $60 and she gave me a nova finish. Not worth $4 which I spent.[/QUOTE]It seems clear that there is a concerted effort among providers and establishments to ratchet up the tipping scale by. 2. It seems to have started 3-6 months ago. I gave in at ATMB last time (little head took over) , but from now on I'm only going places that have a reputation for not upselling, and who stick to the scale.
Upselling Madness. One reaps what one sows
[QUOTE=Phaik Naim;1215542]It seems clear that there is a concerted effort among providers and establishments to ratchet up the tipping scale by. 2. It seems to have started 3-6 months ago. I gave in at ATMB last time (little head took over) , but from now on I'm only going places that have a reputation for not upselling, and who stick to the scale.[/QUOTE]Stopped by Modern on Gallows yesterday, or at least formerly known as Modern, now called Clover Health. Placed a call first and MMS said new girl available. Turns out she was NOT new. When I arrived, I should have known something wasn't right on two fronts: (1) Bad attitude upon the meet and greet of the provider, (2) she didn't know here own name! She first said Gina then changed it to Jenny. So I asked which would she like to be called, she said use either one. OKAYYYY. K-girl about 5-3, late 30's, sorta big boned, but not on heavy side, okay-looking, dirty blond hair. Not much of a talker, prolly because of the "I wish I wasn't here" attitude. After some small talk, she was not new, it was just her first day there at Modern but she works primarily in Chantilly. We proceeded to the TS and it was one of the fastest TS I've ever had. I was clean, but I didn't feel squeaky clean. We went back to the room (first one on the left as you enter the establishment). Massage was okay, soft, and again, she wasn't into it. I tried small talk but it wasn't going anywhere. On the flip, that's where it began."what do you want?" Massage with happy ending. 60! Top off. 80. Full naked massage. 100. I opted for standard NOVA finish since we weren't heading anywhere talking about the menu. Halfway through making junior happy, she complained her arms were tired and sore. (Keep in mind, I was her first customer of the day!) She then insisted to place tip on table, I told her I've been there many times, MMS knew me and I never did that before. But she insisted and got upset and mumbled something in her native tongue. I kindly asked her to speak in English, and she gave me a death stare. That's when I stopped, got up and proceeded to get dressed and leave. She wanted to wrestle me down on the table, but I wanted to go. She grabbed JR and continued stroking, and in the process ended up hurting me. I asked for MMS and she got real upset. I called MMS afterwards explaining her poor attitude and what happened and she apologized as best she could. She said next time better and nicer girl for you. That is, if there IS a next time for me. .80 damage and physical abuse, and NO tip!
Sorry if I ruined this for anyone, but I'm putting my foot down on this one! Bad attitude and poor service gets what is deserved.
AC
Loudoun County Massage Parlor
Long time lurker and infrequent poster. Out of the hobby for a long time due the economy and reduced salary. A few months back I did see.
[url]www.mzqueenjazzy.escort-site.com[/url]
For a quickie 15 min. Visit for. 6. She was nice enough, a BBW as advertised upfront, but tits were a little smaller than I imagined. It was a qucik blo and go. Likely would not repeat.
OK, went out on a limb and TOFTT and visited a massage parlor in the Loudoun County area. Not a lot of details but enough to pass on if you PM me. You'll be glad you did and this info. Will squash any chatter about parlors ratcheting up the tip. I left. 25 and she was fine with that. Very very good value here! Again PM for details.
That is Where It's Going.
Good on ya. My mistake is not walking away the first f-ing instant I see or sense the bad 'tude. Or fat chick. This is high dollar per hour and you do not need to pay crap for this. I'm burnt out on these flakes.
[QUOTE=A John; 1215657]This is what everyone should do! Do`nt let them finish talk with MMS I have even ben given some house money back.
She will get a ass chewin from MMS and maybe looking for new job. Her arm was`nt too tired to try and keep ya their was it. [/QUOTE]
Rev Shine-why place in Alexandria
This report is actually about a week old, sorry for the delay.
After reading a couple posts here, decided to try the new spot off rt 1 as its very convenient to me. No issues finding or parking, elevator up, rang the bell, door answered by June (Joon?) standard Kgal, could be anywhere from 35-50. Attractive (to me) about a 7 on the AMP scale. Asked if I'd been before, I answered honestly that I usually take my custom elsewhere, but was trying them due to their location. Took the hour with shower ($80).
Shower is not a TS, but a tub with a seat. There was also a portable sauna set up, but I wasnt offered, and I didn't ask to use it. June bathed me thouroughly, and after I showed her that I was "ok" things got more playful. After all was washed, back to the room and the table. Massage was above average, the only let down were the "hot towels" which were luke warm at best. Despite the towles I was completely relaxed when the massage got light, and I enjoyed the standard NoVa treatment. Cleanup, more massage, in the elevator down roughly 70 minutes after I first rang the bell. Tipped. 6 as it was my first visit and that has paid off for me in the past. I would and will repeat.
Why Didn't you go to Sterling Va?
[QUOTE=Volvos40;1217157]Stoppped in Chantilly on Tuesday afternoon. Should have been real quiet. Short wide-faced k woman, named 'May' answers and takes me in. She was little sloppy, and chunked. I didn't do the shower, since I had recently showered. And she does an ok massage, no sensual anything. And I don't ask these dumpy ones. It probably wouldn't work anyway. She kept me covered the whole time. So. 8 for the house. And. 2 for her. She seemed very appreciative. I think she said it was her first day. My luck.[/QUOTE]Why Didn't you go to the Sterling Va one that we spoke about? Or, have you already been there?
7 Corners is cloudy and flooding. Stay away!
This is a follow up message from a message I posted a few weeks back titled '7 Corners is partly 'Sunny'. In my previous post I gave this place an OK rating and said I would go back to see if I could sample anything else on the menu beside the NoVa Standard. I'll keep this short. I was greeted by the manager of this two person operation. She was the younger, better looking of the two. She took the house fee of. 6 and left the room. The other provider came in and I told her I wanted the other provider (the manager). Long story short: very mediocre massage. On the flip, I attempted to roam and asked if anything else was on the menu. The provider began to lecture me on asking for other services, indicating that was illegal and disrespectful of her as a woman. She's saying this while providing the NoVa Standard finish. I've never been lectured by a provider before, so I was somewhat speechless as to how to respond. I was, however insulted by the lecture. I'll never go back and suggest that anyone that wants anything more than a mediocre massage avoid this place at all costs.
If At First You Don't Succeed.
Sunday 10:45 am, called FCCC MMS, she said there is a new provider 'CeCe. ' Made appt. For 11:30. Arrived 11:20, knocked on apt. Door several times, no answer. Felt a bit uncomfortable standing in condo hallway, could look suspicious if someone walked by. Called MMS, she said to wait 5 minutes. Waited, she didn't call back. Bailed. As I drove toward next destination, MMS called, said she 'forgot' to call me back, wanted me to come back. I said I would another day, I was apologetic, this operation gives good value and I didn't want to burn any bridges.
Called 5015, talked to MMS 'Kim, ' very nice, said two girls available, Sophia and Hannah. Sophia needed an attitude adjustment last time I was there (see my post #5071) , so I told MMS I should probably see the other girl. OK. Once there, Sophia came in the room, I greeted her nicely, asked if she remembered me, she said yes but I don't think she did. I gently explained that she wasn't happy with the tip the last time, so I better see the other girl. Hannah came in the room, nothing special in looks or body, said she only had a half hour because of an 'appointment. ' That's too short and the last thing I want is a clock-watcher. Besides, this provider was hardly what I'd call a fantasy object. Bailed again.
Next option was the fruity place up near Tyson's. Arrived, greeted mms 'Moon, ' mentioned that I was there once before, big smiles. She wants the fee right away, but I remind her that their advertising says 'choice of staff. ' I saw a very pretty, thin provider on my way in, but a less attractive girl comes in the room. I ask Moon, can I have the other one. OK. 'Sarah' comes in. I hand over the. 8, Moon departs and finally the fun begins.
Sarah is K-girl. 30, thin, barely A-cups but so pretty I didn't mind. Good attitude, sang while she worked (when song 'Gloria' came on, she sang 'Korea'!) , not very talkative, asked me no questions about myself. Good TS and what seemed to me an excellent massage (tho I'm not an expert on the subject) , with back walking and extensive kneading. Took my hand away when I roamed: 'Later. ' I could barely contain myself but did. After she finished, in about 20 minutes, she simply took off her clothes and laid down so I could massage her. Nice that I didn't have to ask. I was so inspired by her efforts that I gave her what I thought was a very good massage, which turned into light touches, kisses all over and DATY. She let me feast for quite a while, even gave me instructions on how to do it (which I like) , finally she climaxed, I believe it was real.
She seemed pleased and now it was my turn. From that point things didn't go so well. Wouldn't do any oral at all. I produced a condom, no go. That left only one way to finish – NoVa standard, which she did sitting on my chest facing away, with a little extra attention in the rear which I appreciated.
I had to consider carefully how much to tip: she had a good attitude, was affectionate and hot, really knew what she was doing, no upsell, no rush, but flatly denied the extras I really wanted. (This is why I like condos, a higher degree of cooperation is a given.) I gave her 3 twenties. She asked for one more, but I said, if you had done what I wanted, I would give you more.
The experience was thrilling but with some regret I don't think I will repeat with her because I'm not happy without those extras. If you're content with standard NoVa and like the spinner type, look no further.
Another Fruity Tysons report
Was there last week, got Yung. 40ish, great figure, very friendly. Table shower was fairly robotic. Massage was not up to par, mostly just surface prodding. Got the flip and roaming was permitted with no mention of an extra tip."You'll take care of me?" was all that was said. Appreciated that. Panties came down, but just a standard NOVA finish. Was surprised when she cuddled up next to me on the table after I was all cleaned up for a few minutes. Nice touch.
