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Instead of people responding to other's requests for info, all you get here is lectures on proper pervert etiquette! I have belonged to TBD, another site, and some others, and they all the same. If you're not in the "clique". GTFO!
Any cop could come in here and establish himself with a few fake reports and become part of the gang. I understand the need for discretion, but some of you guys are simply beyond paranoid.
[QUOTE=Rogoh;1174288]With all the closings in DC, is Vermont still open?[/QUOTE]Yes, but standard NoVA finish. That's all.
Don't you try your reverse psychology on me. It will never work. I love big brother.
[QUOTE=Blowtorch; 1181875]Instead of people responding to other's requests for info, all you get here is lectures on proper pervert etiquette! I have belonged to TBD, another site, and some others, and they all the same. If you're not in the "clique". GTFO!
Any cop could come in here and establish himself with a few fake reports and become part of the gang. I understand the need for discretion, but some of you guys are simply beyond paranoid. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Max Beelyun;1182197]Don't you try your reverse psychology on me. It will never work. I love big brother.[/QUOTE]Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.
No problem, just take your toy and go away then.
[QUOTE=Blowtorch;1181875]Hahahahaha, this place is just like all the others. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Boomer120;1181168]I've finally recovered from my terrible prior experience and thinking it's time to get back out there. I'll be heading through the woodbridge / fringe NOVA area and was going to give the title a try, but I can't tell if they'll provide the services I'm hoping for. Does anyone have any experience?[/QUOTE]Place is a joke or was when I went there about 4 months ago. I normally ask for more pressure but the therapist used movements that were painful, and even when I told the therapist that it felt like she was just digging her elbows into my back, she was insistent that it was a 'good massage'. Then they were pushy to get a tip after. I've had some really good and some really bad massages. Most of the bad ones were free from friends who were in massage school. This was the absolute worst massage I've ever had, and I paid more than I've ever paid before for that crappy massage.
If noobies come in here asking for info, simply ignore them. I'm tired of coming in here and reading page after page of 'RTFF'. If you simply don't answer, they'll get the point.
[QUOTE=Blowtorch;1181875]Instead of people responding to other's requests for info, all you get here is lectures on proper pervert etiquette! I have belonged to TBD, another site, and some others, and they all the same. If you're not in the "clique". GTFO![/QUOTE]What most of the established members (either Senior or Regular, but with a hsitory of decent posts) on this forum dislike are lazy asses who come bouncing in from some other place and start asking form information without having provided or even offered any of their own. These newbie clowns just waltz on up and post questions like,"[i]Anybody know about____? [/i]" or "[i]Where can I find ____? [/i]" or "[i]Where is the best place to get FS? [/i]" It's not that "we" are part of some clique and "they" aren't; it's simply that they've demonstrated no initiative and offered no intel of any value, but simply cop an attitude when they get a well-deserved smackdown.
Take a look at your 8 posts since joining this forum. You had the opportunity to provide useful intel or give a reports of your findings in any one of them. But instead, ALL of them are of the sort I mentioned above. You've given nothing, but you seem to expect something substantial in return. I've seen newbie's who, on their very first post, have provided great reports. It all depends on the attitude of the individual. Yours tends to suck. You say you've belonged to TBD? Congratulations. Still, we have no way of knowing what the quality of your posts were over on that forum, either, so BFD.
Now, you've got three options, as I see them: (1) Take two steps back, adjust your attitude, and make a new start by giving instead of taking. (2) Keep with your current attitude, post useless comments, and remain bitter or frustrated or both. (3) Lurk in the background and just feed on the crumbs that drift by. If you make a serioous commitment to the first option, you can become a valued participant and "we" will be more than happy to share with you the information that we've gained with our hard-earned dollars and our valuable limited time. If you go for the other two options, have a nice life.
R:R
I'm new to this forum but have been a "hobbiest" for over 15 years. Long-term frequenter of DC AMPs, most of which are now closed. Live in NoVa and occaisionally visit the AMPs. Based on this forum, I've come the learn that of the NoVa Standard Service. I'm glad I found this forum. I've been going to different locations trying to find any that do FS. Now I know none (most) don't. I enjoy a good massage and have found a place that does it legitamately for much less than the AMPs (no TS or HE though). Now that I know of the NoVa Standard, I'll probably stick to me legit massage and save some money. I'll continue to monitor this forum, it's every entertaining.
Hello, guys, I'm new here, I recently started visiting AMPs in the DC / NoVa area. I've been to about 10 places, learning by trial and error. Going rate seems to be around 80 / hr plus tip of 80-100 for extra service. I make small talk while the massage begins, then start to touch her gently as she works. From there the reactions vary. Most of the time the finish is HJ, sometimes they are willing to take their clothes off and let me touch them. Have had FS only once (covered of course). Have had a couple of disappointing experiences with completely NS massage.
I do not look down on these women because they are sex workers, indeed I try my best to make it a GFE. I am always courteous, clean, respectful and gentle (and generous when warranted). I take no for an answer, though I've been known to plead!
What I am quickly learning is this is a relationship like any other between a man and a woman, chemistry is key. Which brings me to my question. I met one masseuse with whom I 'clicked' and I'm tempted to initiate an 'off-the-clock' relationship with her. Thoughts?
I've done it a couple of times. They're still all about the money. Read the "Relationships with massage providers" thread to gain some perspective.
[QUOTE=Ambidextrous; 1185378]Hello, guys, I'm new here, I recently started visiting AMPs in the DC / NoVa area. I've been to about 10 places, learning by trial and error. Going rate seems to be around 80 / hr plus tip of 80-100 for extra service. I make small talk while the massage begins, then start to touch her gently as she works. From there the reactions vary. Most of the time the finish is HJ, sometimes they are willing to take their clothes off and let me touch them. Have had FS only once (covered of course). Have had a couple of disappointing experiences with completely NS massage.
I do not look down on these women because they are sex workers, indeed I try my best to make it a GFE. I am always courteous, clean, respectful and gentle (and generous when warranted). I take no for an answer, though I've been known to plead!
What I am quickly learning is this is a relationship like any other between a man and a woman, chemistry is key. Which brings me to my question. I met one masseuse with whom I 'clicked' and I'm tempted to initiate an 'off-the-clock' relationship with her. Thoughts? [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Roamin Roman; 1184825]What most of the established members (either Senior or Regular, but with a hsitory of decent posts) on this forum dislike are lazy asses who come bouncing in from some other place and start asking form information without having provided or even offered any of their own. These newbie clowns just waltz on up and post questions like,"[i]Anybody know about____? [/i]" or "[i]Where can I find ____? [/i]" or "[i]Where is the best place to get FS? [/i]" It's not that "we" are part of some clique and "they" aren't; it's simply that they've demonstrated no initiative and offered no intel of any value, but simply cop an attitude when they get a well-deserved smackdown.
Take a look at your 8 posts since joining this forum. You had the opportunity to provide useful intel or give a reports of your findings in any one of them. But instead, ALL of them are of the sort I mentioned above. You've given nothing, but you seem to expect something substantial in return. I've seen newbie's who, on their very first post, have provided great reports. It all depends on the attitude of the individual. Yours tends to suck. You say you've belonged to TBD? Congratulations. Still, we have no way of knowing what the quality of your posts were over on that forum, either, so BFD.
Now, you've got three options, as I see them: (1) Take two steps back, adjust your attitude, and make a new start by giving instead of taking. (2) Keep with your current attitude, post useless comments, and remain bitter or frustrated or both. (3) Lurk in the background and just feed on the crumbs that drift by. If you make a serioous commitment to the first option, you can become a valued participant and "we" will be more than happy to share with you the information that we've gained with our hard-earned dollars and our valuable limited time. If you go for the other two options, have a nice life.
R:R[/QUOTE]Instesd of starting off lazy I read some reviews on this and other boards before I set out. You have to finally get off your ass and take one. There is enough information on this board to make an informed decision. You can pop your cherry pretty quickly to build your experience based on the information already posted. I will say it twice don't be a lazy ass and go take one, then post information for others.
You ever heard that saying YMMV? Even if someone has great reviews you have to make your own impression and just use this info as a guide. Thats why getting your own experience is the way to go and pass on the 411.
[QUOTE=Roamin Roman; 1184825]What most of the established members (either Senior or Regular, but with a hsitory of decent posts) on this forum dislike are lazy asses who come bouncing in from some other place and start asking form information without having provided or even offered any of their own. These newbie clowns just waltz on up and post questions like,"[i]Anybody know about____? [/i]" or "[i]Where can I find ____? [/i]" or "[i]Where is the best place to get FS? [/i]" It's not that "we" are part of some clique and "they" aren't; it's simply that they've demonstrated no initiative and offered no intel of any value, but simply cop an attitude when they get a well-deserved smackdown.
Take a look at your 8 posts since joining this forum. You had the opportunity to provide useful intel or give a reports of your findings in any one of them. But instead, ALL of them are of the sort I mentioned above. You've given nothing, but you seem to expect something substantial in return. I've seen newbie's who, on their very first post, have provided great reports. It all depends on the attitude of the individual. Yours tends to suck. You say you've belonged to TBD? Congratulations. Still, we have no way of knowing what the quality of your posts were over on that forum, either, so BFD.
Now, you've got three options, as I see them: (1) Take two steps back, adjust your attitude, and make a new start by giving instead of taking. (2) Keep with your current attitude, post useless comments, and remain bitter or frustrated or both. (3) Lurk in the background and just feed on the crumbs that drift by. If you make a serioous commitment to the first option, you can become a valued participant and "we" will be more than happy to share with you the information that we've gained with our hard-earned dollars and our valuable limited time. If you go for the other two options, have a nice life.
R:R[/QUOTE]I have been in the honny a LONG time (since early 90's) and I have TOFTT several times. I know how this game works.
When the Orange Spa was open, there was a great provider that I'd like to try and find. She was older and thicker than most, but knew what she was doing in both massage and other area. She was an independant and lived in NoVa. She had a distinctive tatoo on her back. If anyone remembers her and has any intel on where she might be working, I would appreciate it. I think she called herself Marsha or Mary.
Decided to TOFTT (first time poster, long time lurker here). Place is very convenient for me so I decided to check it out. Set up inside is nice, but not very private. Walls for each of the massage areas do not go all the way up to ceiling, so you can hear everything going on inside. Walked in. No appt. MMS was friendly and guided me to room. Young Korean (?) came in. Maybe 24. Average, but with good front court. Told me to strip and lay down. Did so. No draping at all. Girl came back in and gave me average to below average massage. One hour. No real playing or soft touch, just average massage. At one point straddled me while I was face down and did my back, which was highlight. Requested HE at end but was happily denied. Girl pointed to hallway where MMS was lurking. No worries as did not expect it anyway. Paid 80, including tip. Friendly, but will not go back.
[QUOTE=Blowtorch; 1181875]Instead of people responding to other's requests for info, all you get here is lectures on proper pervert etiquette! I have belonged to TBD, another site, and some others, and they all the same. If you're not in the "clique". GTFO!
Any cop could come in here and establish himself with a few fake reports and become part of the gang. I understand the need for discretion, but some of you guys are simply beyond paranoid. [/QUOTE]If you are not happy with the way things work, you are free to leave through the same door you form which you entered.
Others have already explained it to you, contribute 1st (yes we know reliable verifiable intel from fake reviews) , then ask for assistance. It is a simply formula.
Good luck.
So not good first she I very old with saggy tits massage was ok but the image of granny in my head was tuff. Anyone try golden in clinton would like some asian treat.
I went a couple of months ago but heard there was a crackdown in Ffx county. Are these guys still around?
[QUOTE=Ambidextrous; 1185378]Hello, guys, I'm new here, I recently started visiting AMPs in the DC / NoVa area. I've been to about 10 places, learning by trial and error. Going rate seems to be around 80 / hr plus tip of 80-100 for extra service. I make small talk while the massage begins, then start to touch her gently as she works. From there the reactions vary. Most of the time the finish is HJ, sometimes they are willing to take their clothes off and let me touch them. Have had FS only once (covered of course). Have had a couple of disappointing experiences with completely NS massage.
I do not look down on these women because they are sex workers, indeed I try my best to make it a GFE. I am always courteous, clean, respectful and gentle (and generous when warranted). I take no for an answer, though I've been known to plead!
What I am quickly learning is this is a relationship like any other between a man and a woman, chemistry is key. Which brings me to my question. I met one masseuse with whom I 'clicked' and I'm tempted to initiate an 'off-the-clock' relationship with her. Thoughts? [/QUOTE]I hope you have lowered your tip for the service that you are describing as I have gotten FS many times for 100.
[QUOTE=BlkPrinceVa;1185264]I'm new to this forum but have been a "hobbiest" for over 15 years. Long-term frequenter of DC AMPs, most of which are now closed. Live in NoVa and occaisionally visit the AMPs. Based on this forum, I've come the learn that of the NoVa Standard Service. I'm glad I found this forum. I've been going to different locations trying to find any that do FS. Now I know none (most) don't. I enjoy a good massage and have found a place that does it legitamately for much less than the AMPs (no TS or HE though). Now that I know of the NoVa Standard, I'll probably stick to me legit massage and save some money. I'll continue to monitor this forum, it's every entertaining.[/QUOTE]Keep trying you will get lucky one day as for FS in NOva, they are out there, its just the luck of the draw, once you find it, you will then know where to go.
[QUOTE=DevishJame; 1181431]Hi,
Does anyone know the one on Columbia Road?
Is DC stile or Nova standard?
And also are all the VA ones NOVA standard?
Thanks[/QUOTE]Just go and check a few out and let us know how it went.
[QUOTE=Drofnalb; 1173830]Perhaps you could PM him for the location.
We are trying to leave fewer details until DC fully recovers.[/QUOTE]Damn, looks like DC is running scared now! I wish for the old days. Damn! I really don't think Politics will let DC "fully" recover!
[QUOTE=Computer Luvvv;1191190]I hope you have lowered your tip for the service that you are describing as I have gotten FS many times for 100.[/QUOTE]Not yet. See my new post on VA MP reports, she wasn't happy with 100! Would love to find FS for that, will keep looking.
[QUOTE=Ambidextrous;1185378]I met one masseuse with whom I 'clicked' and I'm tempted to initiate an 'off-the-clock' relationship with her. Thoughts?[/QUOTE]They are possible, but rare. I had a friendship with the owner of Shogun in Falls Church (long gone) , which was a Nova-style service place, but we hit it off and progressed to FS as a personal thing, not a business one. She used to cook dinner for me in the back room afterwards, and also came to my house for some fun (free and completely intimate).
I tried to get something going with Connie from the original Golden (Georgetown then Merrifield). I thought she liked me because of the untranslated Asian and verbal completion, but maybe I flattered myself.
I also took one girl out of the NY Ave place and went for a night tour of the monuments and coffee before taking her to the bus station to go on vacation (they really do go on vacation, and move freely without being "trafficked." She even showed me her Thai passport, which she had in her own possession).
She gave me her phone number, and we talked a few times, but she never came back to DC.
I know other members here have had relationships, including one who had a serious romantic involvement, but I'll let him speak for himself if he wants to.
My advice is to keep both eyes open, go slowly with any personal attachment and entanglement, and be wary of getting played. Some of these girls may indeed be genuine, but it's not easy to tell them from the operators.
[QUOTE=Bunker Buster; 1191883]I tried to get something going with Connie from the original Golden (Georgetown then Merrifield). I thought she liked me because of the untranslated Asian and verbal completion, but maybe I flattered myself.
My advice is to keep both eyes open, go slowly with any personal attachment and entanglement, and be wary of getting played. Some of these girls may indeed be genuine, but it's not easy to tell them from the operators.[/QUOTE]Interesting comments. Thanks. What is "untranslated Asian and verbal completion"?
I trust my experience and "radar" to guard against being taken advantage of. I made a lunch date with my AMP girl last week, but she broke it at the last minute. Said she had too many other things to do, but I had the feeling there was a reason she wasn't telling me. Back to square one as usual.
[QUOTE=Ambidextrous; 1192025]Interesting comments. Thanks. What is "untranslated Asian and verbal completion"?
I trust my experience and "radar" to guard against being taken advantage of. I made a lunch date with my AMP girl last week, but she broke it at the last minute. Said she had too many other things to do, but I had the feeling there was a reason she wasn't telling me. Back to square one as usual. [/QUOTE]You might browse a bit through the various sections. The abbreviations page is very interesting.
I like to call it "quick change" all the K girls I know do it. I would not read into it too much. Ease back a bit then hit her up again see how she responds, then you will know were ya stand.
[QUOTE=Ambidextrous; 1192025]Interesting comments. Thanks. What is "untranslated Asian and verbal completion"?
I made a lunch date with my AMP girl last week, but she broke it at the last minute. Said she had too many other things to do, [/QUOTE]
Not a report (I've done a few) , but a question. Anyone know of a couples-friendly place? My girlfriend and I need a good table shower and muscle rub.
We have tried a place or two, but get turned away at the door.
[QUOTE=New Man; 1193633]Not a report (I've done a few) , but a question. Anyone know of a couples-friendly place? My girlfriend and I need a good table shower and muscle rub.
We have tried a place or two, but get turned away at the door. [/QUOTE]You seem to be looking for NS massage. If so, it's off-topic for this forum, but you can look at CL under therapeutic services, find one that is NS (I think those that advertise "CMT" often are) , then call and ask. The request is unusual, there would be some logistics to work out, but I doubt it would be hard to find a provider who will see a couple.
Moving back to DC, thought I'd check out my spot near the old NY Ave. Old faithful. Old invisible. Old, but doable because my favorite girl is on vacation. To me this place was the greatest because it worked seamlessly. Close, quiet, easy, done. Last time I was here, maybe 6 months, they had locked the main door and had us come in through the side entrance. Cool. Walk up to the door, there's a guy just sitting there, construction company posters on the wall behind him. Hmm. Weird. Go up to the main door, locked. Locked! The street sign. It's gone. What the hell? The apocalypse? Is this real life? Why is this happening to me?
So shit, now I have to find another place that works as well. I'm not much for variety, but I like something that does the trick on command. And I hate having to prove to mama who I am, but dammit, I have to find a new home. Time to mine the forum for info because grim is on the hunt.
I noticed a preponderance of k-girl massages advertising in in escort areas on BP, Virginia type. I wonder if this is VA massage standard or asian condo standard. Anyone toftt yet?
You guys in DC have it rough! I pieced together enough research to find one of the remaining MPs not far from the Bender Arena. Selina met me at the door. She is a 40yr-old Ethiopian and was probably a knockout in her youth. Today she is infirm in the front, and her face is framed severely with hair pulled straight back. However, from behind she was very attractive. She was also playful, and made an honest attempt at being sweet. She yanked my towel away after the shower and asserted a claim on my butt. She was chatty, but also kept using strange phrases like "at least you can make me laugh" which didn't fully carry the compliment I'm sure was intended.
Selina gave a 3-5 min massage before tickling my butt and telling me to flip. She did a super-quick massage of my genital area, rolled on a blue condom, and gave six tugs with her mouth before attempting to mount me. I was far from fully aroused and Selina made no real attempt to assist in that regard. I actually began to deflate and could not enter her. She said I should be on top. We repositioned and I stroked myself hard, but found this whole experience disappointing. I penetrated her, but was not having fun. I ended up telling her to just do a handjob, leaned back, and closed my eyes. A minute or so in she announced her hand was weak due to a recent injury. So I needed to do the handjob for her. Oh my, it was a poor MP experience!
$80 for the hour (I got maybe 25min) , and I gave $120 for "full" service. She mentioned she normally gets $150, but that we were good. While leaving I saw two ancient Asian ladies (owners?) a Latina woman in her late thirties that looked decent, and a middle-aged blond. I assume the last two were colleagues of Selina. I'll probably forget about FS for the rest of my visit, and try the NOVA or SOMD R / T options.
It all depends how far you want the massage to go. I've been to a place where my gf and I got a body rub followed by a chocolate oil massage that left us licking each other for hours. But we wanted to start the licking part before the massage was over, but were told kindly to wait the session was over.
[QUOTE=New Man; 1193633]Not a report (I've done a few) , but a question. Anyone know of a couples-friendly place? My girlfriend and I need a good table shower and muscle rub.
We have tried a place or two, but get turned away at the door. [/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=New Man; 1193633]Not a report (I've done a few) , but a question. Anyone know of a couples-friendly place? My girlfriend and I need a good table shower and muscle rub.
We have tried a place or two, but get turned away at the door. [/QUOTE]The pool area with jacuzzi pools and body scrub / massage tables are segregated by sex, but there are also massage rooms in the spa area that may cater to couples massage. If nothing else, you'll be relaxed as hell when you leave, even if you're not massaged together.
[url]http://www.spaworldusa.com/extraservice.html[/url]
Not sure that you can get a couples table shower anywhere the way it's done in the Asian spas.
Maybe search this site?
[url]http://www.spahunters.com/[/url]
First time here. Location is in a office park that caters to asian businesses, mostly drs. Kind of isolated at this time of night but no problems. Facility was ok but no TS. Provider was older (maybe 35) and just ok. I originally thought this would be NS and was ok with just a good massage. Provider did a great massage and took her time. On the flip, my soldier was at attention and she immediately serviced him to completion. The visit was 80. I didn't tip this time and didn't get any complaints.
As I was leaving the facility, another younger better looking provider asked how it went and asked me to come back. She gave me a card and offered a free visit after 8 visits (never heard of this before).
I'll go back and see if can get the other provider and see if any extras can be had. I'll report back what I find out.
Oh for the good old days when I could get a good back rub in DC by a pretty asian gal in a spa. Today especially, since I've got a sore neck and back. I don't care so much about extras. Just those experienced hands. Bummer.
There used to be a couple of places in Chinatown where a guy could get a nice rub. Are they closed too? Any info would be appreciated.
Had a great time last night won't name this place but will give a hint very close to route 210 in fort washington. Anyways called set up an appointment met by mamasan / provider who was late 30's to early 40's about a 5 in the face body about a 6. 5 to a 7. Paid for a hr which was. 7 went for the table shower which was very thorough washed all spots sqeaky clean when I fliped she saw I was already standing at attention and said ah you very strong so she soaped him up and started giving me a HJ which let me know I had made a good choice last night. Finshed ts she dried me off and off to the room we went I don't think they do a lot of business because she kept the door cracked the whole time basically. Massage was nice she worked on everything down to my toes she even gave me somewhat of a reach around to double check if I was ok with touching I said yes that's fine so on to the flip she asked what did I want I grabbed her but and said everything and she motioned like she wanted to give me a BJ but I said I wanted everything so we discussed a tip and I told her I had. 9 and she told me she was going to get someone else but she left and returned I don't know if there was no one else there or she went to get a rubber, but she retured and closed the and stripped all the way down and started giving me a BBBJ. I thought to myself yes this reminds me of the old eastern spa and the mist before all the closures but I digress BBBJ was spot on and I was ready she strapped me up and jumped on to ride I guess I'm larger than most people and she was kinda nervous to sit all the way on it but I told I will take care you just take your time so she eased on and started riding and moaning went on to mish and some of the same played with her nipples and she started getting louder did that for about 5min and went on to doggie and destroyed but still didn't give up my load yet so I asked for a HJ and she complied with and HJ and BBBJ and in about 2min it was all over her arm and I was statisfied she cleaned me up and gave me a mint and I don't know but she never asked for the tip but I gave it to her because its been so long since I got FS at a AMP senior members can pm me and I will give you establishment name and location but just wanted to tell everyone there is stiil FS AMP's out there so happy hunting.
Lisa from GN in Chinatown is on vacation. I found out during my visit two weeks ago. I hadn't gone back in months but I was bored and the rest of the options in this town have gone on hiatus. Anyways it was the same as always though I think she's finally learned to open wider. And thank god for that.
[url]http://maryland.adultsearch.com/eroticmassage/Fort-Washington/6734[/url]
[QUOTE=Capricaone;1204299]Lisa from GN in Chinatown is on vacation. I found out during my visit two weeks ago. I hadn't gone back in months but I was bored and the rest of the options in this town have gone on hiatus. Anyways it was the same as always though I think she's finally learned to open wider. And thank god for that.[/QUOTE]Anything you can provide would be helpful. Address, website, phone number, etc. Thanks