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[QUOTE=Swaganna;2630422]My post was implying different. I personally, since I am the one who's children were being brought up, that it in now way has any effect over me or my character or my mothering.
Swags.[/QUOTE]Daughter,
You are correct, of course, but the issue is our gentleman's agreement to exclude innocent family members from the bull shit. And, of course, an attack on a mother will get you banned.
Just sayin'.
C3.
[QUOTE=Swaganna;2630422]My post was implying different. I personally, since I am the one who's children were being brought up, that it in now way has any effect over me or my character or my mothering.
Swags.[/QUOTE]It is Bush league for him or anyone else regardless of their standing in the forum to bring up personnel matters if he has a beef with you he should of dealt with you in private. I have been reading the back and forth and there is no doubt you can handle yourself, no doubt at all.
[QUOTE=Swaganna;2632812]It looks like the little troll that sent me a text today saying he just watched a video of me but not to worry that he won't put up on porn hub or anything.
Swags.[/QUOTE]
Seems to have crossed the line, perhaps we can flag it for removal?
I reported C5 false savanna robbing post on the daytona BP and it looks like it's been removed.
Whadda douche.
[QUOTE=Swaganna;2633853]Thanks to all that reported the false ads and as well took the time to give me a heads up. It looks like C5 took a night off from getting all that pussy pussy pussy and totally dedicated himself to reading ads all night. He must of been exhausted today.
Swags.[/QUOTE]2 more post went up at 8:52 and8:57 am Today.
Random thought. I'm surprised provider prices have stayed the same. I would like to think that as more girls come on the scene, there should be too much supply, and as a result, prices keep on dropping. . . . .
side comment - if a girl really was "desperate and in need of cash", I would understand them mentioning it to try to get more money, but to object at certain prices? That doesn't say that they're desperate or in need of cash. That just says they want more money out of you for less work lol
Trust, quality service, safety, and you get what you pay for.
Why should quality providers drop their prices just because there are new girls on the scene? Especially with the new law that took effect yesterday. TOFTT or seeing providers with low review counts is even more sketchy than it was just a few days ago. Also many of these newer providers are asking higher donations than the established ones. More power to them if they can get they are asking. Some of these new girls may be superstars but that doesn't take away from those that have maintained a solid rep on with stellar service.
Also someone that has been on here for awhile that mentions they need some extra help doesn't necessarily translate to desperate. Some people on here have built trust and a bond whether business, personal or both and hoping some of these members may contact them.
If you scroll you have Mystikal, Jenna, Jersey, Dahlia, Marina. And myself to name just a few, that have been around for years and always maintained a great reputation. Never any safety issues, and pages on pages of good reviews, excellent communication, and skills that are out of this world. Why should we lower what we ask for because there are new girls?
Your idea of prices dropping as new girls come onto the scene is wishful thinking. Sorry bud.
Be safe all.
Xoxo.
Paige.
[QUOTE=RainbowDash3;2635259]Random thought. I'm surprised provider prices have stayed the same. I would like to think that as more girls come on the scene, there should be too much supply, and as a result, prices keep on dropping. . . . .
side comment - if a girl really was "desperate and in need of cash", I would understand them mentioning it to try to get more money, but to object at certain prices? That doesn't say that they're desperate or in need of cash. That just says they want more money out of you for less work lol[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PaigeSweetStuf;2635403]Trust, quality service, safety, and you get what you pay for.
Why should quality providers drop their prices just because there are new girls on the scene? Especially with the new law that took effect yesterday. TOFTT or seeing providers with low review counts is even more sketchy than it was just a few days ago. Also many of these newer providers are asking higher donations than the established ones. More power to them if they can get they are asking. Some of these new girls may be superstars but that doesn't take away from those that have maintained a solid rep on with stellar service.
Also someone that has been on here for awhile that mentions they need some extra help doesn't necessarily translate to desperate. Some people on here have built trust and a bond whether business, personal or both and hoping some of these members may contact them.
If you scroll you have Mystikal, Jenna, Jersey, Dahlia, Marina. And myself to name just a few, that have been around for years and always maintained a great reputation. Never any safety issues, and pages on pages of good reviews, excellent communication, and skills that are out of this world. Why should we lower what we ask for because there are new girls?
Your idea of prices dropping as new girls come onto the scene is wishful thinking. Sorry bud.
Be safe all.
Xoxo.
Paige.[/QUOTE]Thank you so much for even putting my name along such great providers that you mentioned above. We are have to be safe and look out for each other.
[QUOTE=PaigeSweetStuf;2635403]Trust, quality service, safety, and you get what you pay for.
Why should quality providers drop their prices just because there are new girls on the scene? Especially with the new law that took effect yesterday. TOFTT or seeing providers with low review counts is even more sketchy than it was just a few days ago. Also many of these newer providers are asking higher donations than the established ones. More power to them if they can get they are asking. Some of these new girls may be superstars but that doesn't take away from those that have maintained a solid rep on with stellar service.
Also someone that has been on here for awhile that mentions they need some extra help doesn't necessarily translate to desperate. Some people on here have built trust and a bond whether business, personal or both and hoping some of these members may contact them.
If you scroll you have Mystikal, Jenna, Jersey, Dahlia, Marina. And myself to name just a few, that have been around for years and always maintained a great reputation. Never any safety issues, and pages on pages of good reviews, excellent communication, and skills that are out of this world. Why should we lower what we ask for because there are new girls?
Your idea of prices dropping as new girls come onto the scene is wishful thinking. Sorry bud.
Be safe all.
Xoxo.
Paige.[/QUOTE]My love I agree with you 110%. My donations have been the same for a VERY LONG time and will remain the same. The ONLY time I lower my donations would be for the family of this board. But you can bet your last breath that I will NEVER lower them to the SW rates I have seen on here of late. I fault the ones that pick up these women and show them where and how to become members here. Yep they bring their SW rates right along with them not to mention their habits!
The ladies you mentioned in your post have solid reputations not only on this board but several others. We use this dream money to pay bills, pay car notes, put children through school, put food on the table and keep the lights on. We are not buying drugs, needles or supporting a man. We are independent, we do not have pimps that you have to worry about being robbed or worse. We provide a clean and comfortable in call with clean sheets and towels also refreshments, all of this comes with no drama. We value both parties discretion and safety, that is number 1 to us.
So saying all of this is leading up to one thing. You may see who you choose, it's your money. If you can not afford my donation or simply choose not to pay my donation just keep scrolling. Because I manage to pay my bills, take care of my father, put food on my table etc. With the generosity of the gentlemen that knows the definition of a quality provider. So to the ones that I am referencing (you know who you are) I thank you.
Love To ALL.
Xoxo Ashley.
Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.
I for one won't touch BP or even look at it. The ladies I see are on here with plenty of positive reviews. Safety, security, personality, and they know what we want and how to treat us. For example 30 minutes is 30 minutes. 1 hr is one hr, even if it's just talking for the last 10-15 min, that's what we want. I remember when I moved here, went to see Jersey for a QV. Popped in 2 min, I thought I had to go. She made me feel comfortable and told me I still had 13 min LOL. Anyway yes, Joy, Paige, Nana, ginger, Jersey, Sabrina, and I'm sure a few more I haven't seen yet all know how to do it right.
Sox man out.
[QUOTE=Mystical0945;2636195]My love I agree with you 110%. My donations have been the same for a VERY LONG time and will remain the same. The ONLY time I lower my donations would be for the family of this board. But you can bet your last breath that I will NEVER lower them to the SW rates I have seen on here of late. I fault the ones that pick up these women and show them where and how to become members here. Yep they bring their SW rates right along with them not to mention their habits!
The ladies you mentioned in your post have solid reputations not only on this board but several others. We use this dream money to pay bills, pay car notes, put children through school, put food on the table and keep the lights on. We are not buying drugs, needles or supporting a man. We are independent, we do not have pimps that you have to worry about being robbed or worse. We provide a clean and comfortable in call with clean sheets and towels also refreshments, all of this comes with no drama. We value both parties discretion and safety, that is number 1 to us.
So saying all of this is leading up to one thing. You may see who you choose, it's your money. If you can not afford my donation or simply choose not to pay my donation just keep scrolling. Because I manage to pay my bills, take care of my father, put food on my table etc. With the generosity of the gentlemen that knows the definition of a quality provider. So to the ones that I am referencing (you know who you are) I thank you.
Love To ALL.
Xoxo Ashley.
Play Safe BUT Always Play HARD.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PaigeSweetStuf;2635403]Trust, quality service, safety, and you get what you pay for.
Why should quality providers drop their prices just because there are new girls on the scene? Especially with the new law that took effect yesterday. TOFTT or seeing providers with low review counts is even more sketchy than it was just a few days ago. Also many of these newer providers are asking higher donations than the established ones. More power to them if they can get they are asking. Some of these new girls may be superstars but that doesn't take away from those that have maintained a solid rep on with stellar service.
Also someone that has been on here for awhile that mentions they need some extra help doesn't necessarily translate to desperate. Some people on here have built trust and a bond whether business, personal or both and hoping some of these members may contact them.
If you scroll you have Mystikal, Jenna, Jersey, Dahlia, Marina. And myself to name just a few, that have been around for years and always maintained a great reputation. Never any safety issues, and pages on pages of good reviews, excellent communication, and skills that are out of this world. Why should we lower what we ask for because there are new girls?
Your idea of prices dropping as new girls come onto the scene is wishful thinking. Sorry bud.
Be safe all.
Xoxo.
Paige.[/QUOTE]Reversal of question. Why haven't rates gone up / doubled if this is the case? Might as well charge as much as you can since you are setting the standard in quality, no?
I pose both of these questions since people on the boards are always talking about "supply and demand"; there's also differentiating yourself from the others. What allows one provider to charge more than another? So many questions, so little time. =(
[QUOTE=Redsox2005;2636636]Popped in 2 min, I thought I had to go. She made me feel comfortable and told me I still had 13 min LOL.[/QUOTE]
I agree, BP girls do that. "All set? Get out!"
Same question though. Why haven't prices dropped there? There's also more girls posting. Trying to find the economics on this.
[QUOTE=RainbowDash3;2635259]Random thought. I'm surprised provider prices have stayed the same. I would like to think that as more girls come on the scene, there should be too much supply, and as a result, prices keep on dropping. . . . .
side comment - if a girl really was "desperate and in need of cash", I would understand them mentioning it to try to get more money, but to object at certain prices? That doesn't say that they're desperate or in need of cash. That just says they want more money out of you for less work lol[/QUOTE]So, it is Saturday afternoon. I just got in off the road for a few days and want to play. Las Vegas was not a good experience. I have been thinking of seeing two new ladies, each wanting $$ for an hour but well reviewed and, I think, we will have a good time. They are different. I have enough per diem money from this last tour to go for it.
Then, I opened up the ads and notice that an ATF is offering a birthday special. Holy shit! A REALLY GOOD birthday special. Add to this one of the UTR's I enjoy seeing will probably text me on Monday because the rent is due. She will make some really low suggesting. Last, my bondage buddy will certainly contact me for a session because she knows I am back in town. Hey, I would rather find a chick that wants to be tied up than one that wants to be tied down.
What the fuck is a fella to do? So many options!
And I say this with respect for the ladies that are expensive and worth it but also with respect for the ones that are also worth it but offering something special. I don't always go for cheap. But I never go for expensive.
There are lots of random factors that make donations fluctuate. At the end of the day, it always is susceptible to the law of supply and demand. Price and service always are.
Play safe,
C3.
Why not charge more? Cause I feel that my donation is fair for what I offer. Greed gets you nowhere in the long run. I think the rates that well established providers on here charge are fair for the market and what they provide. Also most opro.
What you will pay allows what a provider will charge when it comes down to it. Its a take or leave it offer on both ends. Often I have noticed that those with a larger menu ask more which I think is completely reasonable.
Xoxo.
Paige.
[QUOTE=RainbowDash3;2636820]Reversal of question. Why haven't rates gone up / doubled if this is the case? Might as well charge as much as you can since you are setting the standard in quality, no?
I pose both of these questions since people on the boards are always talking about "supply and demand"; there's also differentiating yourself from the others. What allows one provider to charge more than another? So many questions, so little time. =(
I agree, BP girls do that. "All set? Get out!"
Same question though. Why haven't prices dropped there? There's also more girls posting. Trying to find the economics on this.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PaigeSweetStuf;2636878]Why not charge more? Cause I feel that my donation is fair for what I offer. Greed gets you nowhere in the long run. I think the rates that well established providers on here charge are fair for the market and what they provide. Also most opro.
What you will pay allows what a provider will charge when it comes down to it. Its a take or leave it offer on both ends. Often I have noticed that those with a larger menu ask more which I think is completely reasonable.
Xoxo.
Paige.[/QUOTE]I usually dream with providers that I am both comfortable with and I know what the dream will be about. There are a few providers on this site that ask for larger donations and their service does not merit the extra coin, but for the most part you have a good idea of the quality of the provider and the menu if you just take the time and read a little bit. I also have read from a few here that they won't see a BP provider because they are hurried or for other reasons. Here is a not so news flash. Some providers on this forum will rush you as well it all depends on their schedule and kind of day they are having. Of course, the last statement is not the norm but it does happen. I have found a plethora of great providers on BP and this forum. Sure you have to be a little more careful when looking for a dream with a BP provider but isn't that what the BP thread on this great forum is for? To weed out and reduce the risk! A providers rate is her rate, there are so many to chose from if you don't like her rate move on down the page, no pun intended, Paige.
[QUOTE=Swaganna;2636942]But running specials, pretty much every as, is lowering your price? So to run a debate saying otherwise especially if you NEVER advertise original rates is very hypocritical.
Swags.[/QUOTE]There are certainly SP's that hold to a donation and never vary. There are also those that work the market. When the rent is due they run a special. When they are in high cotton they don't see anyone at all.
I cannot fault any lady for running her business the way it works for her. I do get to choose, though, and I do choose to enjoy those first of the month when the rent is due specials. Now, that said, it also means on that day I am not seeing someone else who didn't run the special.
I opened the newspaper and look what I see, ABC is running a special on my favorite wine. So, I will buy the wine from ABC and not the cute little wine shop around the corner. Of course, if that cute little wine shop advertised that they would accept all coupons then they would get my business because I do like them more.
Run your business anyway you want. Don't criticize others for running it the way they choose.
Does that make sense?
C3.
[QUOTE=Swaganna;2632812]It looks like the little troll that sent me a text today saying he just watched a video of me but not to worry that he won't put up on porn hub or anything.
Swags.[/QUOTE]Don't worry no video I did a pretty deep search this morning! LOL I am happy to have done my part for you!
[QUOTE=Swaganna;2638047]Just doesn't make sense to jump into a debate on lowering prices to defend not lowering when a person always is lowering their prices. Make sense? Now since I never put myself on sale, because I believe the gentlemen that already see me are the ones that deserve a special break every now and then, could justifiably jump in on that topic.
Swags.[/QUOTE]Daughter,
I would like to think this is a healthy discussion and not a debate. We are hearing lots of opinions from all sides.
I would wish I understood more clearly how SP's decide on their suggested donation. What I have come to realize is this is a very complex issue. I would think a lady will ask as much as she can. I would think a gentleman wants to donate as little as he can get away with. Then you have to put service, expectation and delivery in the mix. Then, there is the beauty factor. Also, attitude on the part of both is important.
Just one man's take on it.
C3.
[QUOTE=Jazak;2637990] Referring to Dallas:
Photo's worth a thousands words.
Don't get no better then this.
Sweet dreams.
[URL]http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/98/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/9099-Spinner-Dallas-is-Backkkkk-amp-amp-ready-to-please-.html[/URL][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chris5;2638077]One of the finest chicks in Orlando.
Chris5.[/QUOTE]Gotta call bull shit on this one. Not the Jazak part, we all know where he stands, but there is no way in hell that I believe Chris5 has any first had knowledge of how fine any lady in this price range might be.
Just sayin'.
C3.
[QUOTE=Camera3;2638486]Gotta call bull shit on this one. Not the Jazak part, we all know where he stands, but there is no way in hell that I believe Chris5 has any first had knowledge of how fine any lady in this price range might be.
Just sayin'.
C3.[/QUOTE]How is it that Jazak and / or Rufus has not married this girl yet? Bad visual image of both Jazak and Rufus naked awaiting the long delayed arrival of Dallas (long delayed with a ton of excuses as has been consistently reported by mongers here). C5 has first hand knowledge because he was in the other room watching (all his budget will allow) the action through his peephole!
[QUOTE=Camera3;2638486]Gotta call bull shit on this one. Not the Jazak part, we all know where he stands, but there is no way in hell that I believe Chris5 has any first had knowledge of how fine any lady in this price range might be.
Just sayin'.
C3.[/QUOTE]He can not afford her, I think he is just making an acknowledgement.
He much prefer's Blossom Park, bcuz like Kentucky Fried Chicken, the girls there are Needle Lickn' Good!
[QUOTE=Swaganna;2632812]It looks like the little troll that sent me a text today saying he just watched a video of me but not to worry that he won't put up on porn hub or anything.
Swags.[/QUOTE]I'd love to make a movie with you 😘128536;128536;.
[QUOTE=Jmoedb;2638589]I'd love to make a movie with you 128536;128536;.[/QUOTE]Don't do it Savanna. This one actually DOES have a Porn Hub page, and you will likely end up on it. LMAO.
[QUOTE=AncientOne;2638537]How is it that Jazak and / or Rufus has not married this girl yet? Bad visual image of both Jazak and Rufus naked awaiting the long delayed arrival of Dallas (long delayed with a ton of excuses as has been consistently reported by mongers here). C5 has first hand knowledge because he was in the other room watching (all his budget will allow) the action through his peephole![/QUOTE]Some things never change, AncientDick still not doing any reviews or contributing to the forum just sets back pulling his pud to the photo's other mongers upload. Talks bad about most everyone, Still the same old asshole.
[QUOTE=Camera3;2638483]Daughter,
I would like to think this is a healthy discussion and not a debate. We are hearing lots of opinions from all sides.
I would wish I understood more clearly how SP's decide on their suggested donation. What I have come to realize is this is a very complex issue. I would think a lady will ask as much as she can. I would think a gentleman wants to donate as little as he can get away with. Then you have to put service, expectation and delivery in the mix. Then, there is the beauty factor. Also, attitude on the part of both is important.
Just one man's take on it.
C3.[/QUOTE]Aw man. You know it's more interesting if it was a debate and NOT a discussion!
That being said, I was aiming for a discussion; a debate would've been more entertaining.
Adding to the discussion and without being too explicit: There's only so many ways you can perform before someone picks it up or someone instructs another person to do it. That's why I find it extremely surprising that prices haven't dropped too much, especially since there's (what appears to be, in my opinion), / more / people running ads in general. Someone made a point (I'm too lazy to reference / quote it) that with the new law, it'll be more difficult. . . . . True, but that still hasn't stopped people from posting ads.
Anything that's "illegal" will *ALWAYS* have someone, somewhere willing to do it or sell it. Why? Money. If white collar bank CEOs can get away with it, others will surely follow in their footsteps until *EVERYONE* is caught. Since that's not going to happen (same with the hobby) they'll do it, but in varying amounts (depending on the person and how risk-adverse they are). Some might even think, "Hey, let's work together and raise prices!" or "Hey, I'll post XYZ reviews and you give me freebies!" That might work in the short term, but then someone breaks rank or finds out. Shit never ends well. Happens time and time again.
Last discussion point: One of the things I've learned is stand up comedians keep it 100. It's mostly (if not, all) true. Louis explains it best: [URL]https://youtu.be/85bfDKudxV4[/URL].
Now, before I have white knights after me or everyone else thinking I'm scum of the earth, etc (if it's not too late) - I want to mention that I will tip *after* the fact. If it is deserved. I have tried pretipping and over the years it's. . . Probably 6 out of 10 times it's no good. Sometimes if you don't haggle and just MEET the provider at their pricing, they don't hold up their end of the bargain. While mostly BP and Clist, it does happen from time to time with verified providers here, too (NO NAMES). I have noticed the trend that if those providers book clients back to back to back, that's when they rush. No bueno, ladies. No bueno. (Besides the "ick" factor, of course. If I were to do something like that, I'd try to take a shower at the very least!
But I digress. That's just personal experiences plus bad luck of the draw on BP and Clist.
Going back to the discussion, I'm just surprised pricing hasn't dropped due to more providers coming in, that's my main point. My only question, really. Why?
Anyways, don't mind me. I'm just a person that has a lot of time on their hands and thinks about everything a bit more than most people. Sociology and numbers are interests of mine.
[QUOTE=AncientOne;2638537]How is it that Jazak and / or Rufus has not married this girl yet? Bad visual image of both Jazak and Rufus naked awaiting the long delayed arrival of Dallas (long delayed with a ton of excuses as has been consistently reported by mongers here). C5 has first hand knowledge because he was in the other room watching (all his budget will allow) the action through his peephole![/QUOTE]She is already married, not sure why such a vicious attack on this. I enjoy the pics.
I know AO seems to be caught up with them seeing Dalas, could be he doesn't like them or her or its jealously, but I can tell you this, when she walks through that fuqn door all excuses are forgiven! .
Just what I heard.
PG.
[URL]http://www.thesba.com/2012/03/07/five-steps-to-running-an-effective-online-sales-special/[/URL]
This may answer some questions in reference to specials vs. Lowering prices, a quick basic summary on why, that even the most mentally challenged could understand. It is simple, and in all businesses running a specials with limited time offer is completely different than lowering prices permanently. That is why they are "specials".
Business models are often personalized and what may work for one may not for others. That is why the hobby is great, so many options and to each their own. Obviously the popular successful providers have found what business model works for them. Do I question theirs? In no way, I am just happy that they are successful. It gives me solid providers to refer my regulars to when they want something different.
Everyone have a wonderful Tuesday! Stay safe.
BTW I am running a special for all of you here in the USASG community check out my ad for details!
Xoxo.
Paige.