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[QUOTE=Jogran50;4357884]Curious, does anyone have any inside details about her? Appreciate your input, also ok to send a PM.
[URL]http://portland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/true-petite-redhead/198785828113[/URL][/QUOTE]She's a good lay. But damn, not the prettiest lady. She is willing to do BBFS CIP. Even BB Greek with CIA.
I had a great experience with her probably two or three years ago. I mention this because I see she's back posting again.
Super cute face and nice body just a little baby fat.
CIP was negotiated ahead of time with no extra charge. Great lay!
Would be nice to hear an update.
[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?119296-WittyKittyKat[/URL]
[QUOTE=Thucydides2000;4360038]It's honestly not really that hard.
In my experience, somewhere between 75%-80% of the girls I get into a conversation with (on SA) are willing to meet up in a way that would earn them a mention on this board.
Don't get me wrong, there's a fair number of them that when you contact them you will never even get a response. They're so overloaded with guys contacting them on that site, but they never even get back to you.
But of the ones that I do get into an actual exchange back-and-forth, the success rate is pretty high. Or I should say that the agreeability factor is pretty high. Meaning that after a little bit of conversation, I have gotten directly to the point and they've been OK with it.
Not all of those people come in at the numbers I discussed, but for some number (Almost always below $500) they are willing.
Of that 75% to 80% who are willing for "some number", it is probably only another 50% to 75% of those who fall into the range I mentioned on my other post.
As with all things, it is YMMV. It's all about how you present yourself to them. I've had more than a couple of them tell me that there is a bunch of creepy, perverted older guys on that site. Emphasis is on creepy and perverted, not as much about the older part.
A few months ago I put a quick post up talking about how I had a certain method if you well that I use. That makes it sound a little bit mysterious, but it's really not.
Be respectful, and get to know them.
Ask how they are.
How their search is coming along. What are they here for specifically. What they like to do for fun.
Learn about them in a genuine way, not a creepy one.
Then let them know what you are looking for.
Hint: if it's just sex, you have a high probability of getting denied.
[blue]You were doing so well until that last line.
No issues with pretending with them that they aren't hookers, but when you start lying to yourself it's bad, that's where the GPS comes in.
Regardless of what delusions SD's tell themselves when a chick won't fuck you unless you are dropping cash in the till, regardless of what you call that cash, then she's a prostitute and if she's a prostitute sooner or later she needs to know that the money is for service, not because she's pretty.
This is why there are so many chicks on SA looking to be paid for, wait for it, PLATONIC RELATIONSHIPS. At the end of the day if they don't realize on some level, even if it's unsaid, that they are hookers and their job is to fuck you well then it's time to move on to the next one.
The biggest most successful SD I know (trust me I know a few) always ends up cutting the same deal. You make X every time you make me cum. He NEVER severs the cord between sex and money. Lots of chicks don't like it and his attitude is NEXT.
So sure, talk about the stuff they want to hear and once they are interested it make them understand they have a job to do. Unless you want to encourage ever increasing levels of GPS it ALWAYS needs to be about the sex.
A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Well said! The struggle is that these ho's are constantly trying to disassociate the payment from the act of making you cum. Maybe its the way that they rationalize it in their head. But at the end of the day, they are selling their pussy. Plain and simple.
[QUOTE=Alas5877;4360968]Well said! The struggle is that these ho's are constantly trying to disassociate the payment from the act of making you cum. Maybe its the way that they rationalize it in their head. But at the end of the day, they are selling their pussy. Plain and simple.[/QUOTE]More and more of them aren't selling pussy because they can get guys to pay them for not fucking them. There are chicks who just do one paid meet and greet after another with no intention of EVER fucking a single guy and why would they. There are idiots paying them hundreds of dollars to have a cup of coffee.
I'll never understand it.
A2.
[QUOTE=Admin2;4361135]More and more of them aren't selling pussy because they can get guys to pay them for not fucking them. There are chicks who just do one paid meet and greet after another with no intention of EVER fucking a single guy and why would they. There are idiots paying them hundreds of dollars to have a cup of coffee.
I'll never understand it.
A2.[/QUOTE]So like I said, I have a method (for lack of a better word).
Yes, there are some who say that they don't sell themselves and just want get paid to hang out. And will only do something if it turns out that way (there are a very few who stick to this as well). Then I reiterate that I'm not looking to pay for sex. However, I am looking for a friend with benefits, and that I have plenty of friends (including some beautiful ones) who I can hang out with for free.
As a friend with benefits, it's not all about sex. But part of the thing is sex.
That if they want to hang out with no money involved a few times until they build that level of comfort, then I'm happy to do that.
I'll buy them lunch or coffee a couple times to just talk and get to know each other. No money, pressure or expectations involved. If they are comfortable after that then we can always move on from there. And if not, then we didn't really lose anything other than a little time.
Most agree to that idea and are willing to to meet and feel it out.
But the reality is that most don't want to waste that much time repeatedly, but they do need something to justify sleeping with a person they just met without feeling like a *****. IE: they were told directly by you that it's ok to say no to sex.
9 out of 10 will still sleep with you from the first time, and every time after. But the idea that they don't have to makes them feel better. Hell, I've had a few of them that became fuck buddys for nothing other the coffee or food I buy each time we meet. It's about their mindset going into it. Some are ok with the black and white concept you describe, but some are not and need the comfort built. But pretty much all of them appreciate it either way.
In short, I do make it clear that I don't just pay people a large amount of money just to hang out. But if they do want to "just hang out" to build comfort, then I'm ok with it. I'll buy the meal or drinks to do that.
Once they are comfortable after talking, they nearly always decide that they are good to go and don't want to continue spending this time while not getting paid. So we move forward from there.
With comfort built and not feeling transactional, prices drop as well because you aren't just an ATM and they aren't just ass for hire.
[QUOTE=PNWPlay;4360127]She's a good lay. But damn, not the prettiest lady. She is willing to do BBFS CIP. Even BB Greek with CIA.[/QUOTE]You right about the lay, her greeting "Why don't you just fuck me" but you also right about the ugly and she must be way past her advertised age of 57.
[QUOTE=Samadams17;4355052]She was missing teeth when I saw her.[/QUOTE]She was missing teeth when I saw her about a month ago. Body is still nice, pussy is tight but BB upsell was a cool 300 on top of her regular rate. I'm like you've got to be fucking kidding me. Head game was good though. Plowed her almost the whole hour with her complaining it's getting too much. Told her if she would just give up and go bare, it would be a whole lot better, refused. So I kept plowing until the end and let it go. Her pussy was all red and sore, ruined for the night.
She told me absolutely no bare. Katora wanted me to PM her, too. I told her no because I know she was going to put me on blast for BBFS. I had seen her before multiple times, and that still didn't matter.
[QUOTE=MisterLover;4360588]I had a great experience with her probably two or three years ago. I mention this because I see she's back posting again.
Super cute face and nice body just a little baby fat.
CIP was negotiated ahead of time with no extra charge. Great lay!
Would be nice to hear an update.
[URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?119296-WittyKittyKat[/URL][/QUOTE]
Pics are spot on, and she did BBFS. Her pussy is stretched out, so unless you are really hung her pussy gets mundane rather quickly. Her tits are fake, and hard as a rock. She is very outgoing, and full GFE. You can kiss, daty, 69, etc. I am not sure about Greek though. Keep in mind, that when I saw her she had a male driver, and I don't know if it was her pimp though. She claimed it was her boyfriend, of course. Anyways, she's legit.
[URL]http://portland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/hey-going-through-town-and-cou/005688476933[/URL]
Saw a couple of providers on road trips to PDX last month and needed to update my Portland brethren on my experiences.
SamanthaPDX. Saw her at a decent incall around the corner from the Moda Center. Initial rate was $$ for the hour with a $ upsell for BBFS / CIP. Very reserved when I walked in and took a while to warm up. Was okay with a BBBJ and LFK. However got better as she climbed aboard and convinced her without the cover. Did the deed and left. Was okay but for $$$ have had MUCH better experiences with other providers for less. Will not see her again.
AmyisFun731 - She has a town-home in old Vancouver in a decent neighborhood. Walked into the living room with a pullout sofa bed all done up and ready to go. Had a GREAT GFE session with lots of DFK, fairly nice tits to suck on, and she finished me off with a BBBJCIM like no other. Although this is a BB forum I think I could have gotten it if I had the energy to go a second round, but I was completely spent and with the long drive back up to SEA I didn't partake. Total adventure was $1. 4 and a great deal. My only negative for her was either she didn't click with me or had her mind on something else.
Stay safe and keep hobbying gents!
When I saw Amy in person, we clicked well, and she was giving me BBBJ, and moaning a lot. I finally asked if we could do BBFS, and she said no. So, yeah, YMMV, or depends on her mood, donation, etc. Bishes are too complicated a lot for their own good.
[QUOTE=BBHunter425;4362221]Saw a couple of providers on road trips to PDX last month and needed to update my Portland brethren on my experiences.
SamanthaPDX. Saw her at a decent incall around the corner from the Moda Center. Initial rate was $$ for the hour with a $ upsell for BBFS / CIP. Very reserved when I walked in and took a while to warm up. Was okay with a BBBJ and LFK. However got better as she climbed aboard and convinced her without the cover. Did the deed and left. Was okay but for $$$ have had MUCH better experiences with other providers for less. Will not see her again.
AmyisFun731 - She has a town-home in old Vancouver in a decent neighborhood. Walked into the living room with a pullout sofa bed all done up and ready to go. Had a GREAT GFE session with lots of DFK, fairly nice tits to suck on, and she finished me off with a BBBJCIM like no other. Although this is a BB forum I think I could have gotten it if I had the energy to go a second round, but I was completely spent and with the long drive back up to SEA I didn't partake. Total adventure was $1. 4 and a great deal. My only negative for her was either she didn't click with me or had her mind on something else.
Stay safe and keep hobbying gents![/QUOTE]
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/739b837d-570f-4df4-b6ea-b4c1aa223ba4[/URL]
Anyone check her out yet? Thanks.
I've tried a few times with this one but have failed to connect. Has anyone had the pleasure?
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.portland.listcrawler.com/post/32963297/[/URL]
Maybe she has changed. I had an email exchange with her a few months ago and I don't think she remembered me but she said she was happy to discuss it in person. Anyway maybe someone has had a more recent experience I have.
[QUOTE=JackReach30;4362145]She told me absolutely no bare. Katora wanted me to PM her, too. I told her no because I know she was going to put me on blast for BBFS. I had seen her before multiple times, and that still didn't matter.[/QUOTE]
What was her rate? She doesn't list one.
[QUOTE=JackReach30;4362148]Pics are spot on, and she did BBFS. Her pussy is stretched out, so unless you are really hung her pussy gets mundane rather quickly. Her tits are fake, and hard as a rock. She is very outgoing, and full GFE. You can kiss, daty, 69, etc. I am not sure about Greek though. Keep in mind, that when I saw her she had a male driver, and I don't know if it was her pimp though. She claimed it was her boyfriend, of course. Anyways, she's legit.
[URL]http://portland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/hey-going-through-town-and-cou/005688476933[/URL][/QUOTE]