"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=RappaHannock;5134578]LOL Profile link is already gone.[/QUOTE]She deleted her profile because she was spooked after being told by another guy about this forum. Told me that if I wanted to meet her to perform oral on her then we had to meet in a hotel now instead of her apartment because it's creepy that there's a group of guys that communicate about the babies on a separate site. I'm really not sure why guys feel the need to bring up this site. You can negotiate with these girls using the intel here without showing them where you got the intel from.

[QUOTE=WPGuy;5134646]Tried to send you a private message. Could you please clear out some messages? Thanks.[/QUOTE]Box cleared.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;5135047] I'm really not sure why guys feel the need to bring up this site. [/QUOTE]This x 1000.

[QUOTE=KevinCalormis;5135556]This x 1000.[/QUOTE]Makes no sense to me why someone would say anything about this site.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;5135047]She deleted her profile because she was spooked after being told by another guy about this forum. Told me that if I wanted to meet her to perform oral on her then we had to meet in a hotel now instead of her apartment because it's creepy that there's a group of guys that communicate about the babies on a separate site. I'm really not sure why guys feel the need to bring up this site. You can negotiate with these girls using the intel here without showing them where you got the intel from.[/QUOTE]Never underestimate male thirst. It is real and it can be friggin ugly! Some guys on here have no game whatsoever and it's pathetic.

If this is you, if you think showing a girl this site will get you into her panties, I have bad news for you. The only thing you'll get for seeking a young girl's validation is contempt and ridicule. You will not touch her girly parts and it's simply a simp move. Just don't. It's not going to help you and it's not helping any guys on this site.

[QUOTE=August23;5117742]Anyone had any luck with Daisy, 35 yr Asian.[/QUOTE]Probably the same one found in this thread going back years. Drives a white Mercedes. Yeah, pretty face, nice body, and works Richmond and NOVA. Well used so wrap up. Was fun to hang out with and a great time while it lasted. Her personality destroyed what we had going. I was relieved to move on. Her profile always says 10-20 years younger than she is and she posts older pics of herself. Many of us have been to her house (if she still has it). Personality led her to a failed life. Wants everything (the rich life) by finding a man that will waste everything on her. From Thailand. I really enjoyed multiple pops inside. Stupid days. No condom. Lucky I didn't catch anything.

[QUOTE=DickLongwood;5133609]Her scenario sounds like a good START to a date. But I would definitely want her to reciprocate.[/QUOTE]None of you seems to have any imagination. There are many hurdles girls need to get over to do the deed. They don't want to think of themselves as hookers, of course, and then there's just general nervousness about sex w / someone new. This may be her way of managing these anxieties, . To me the whole point is to get the girl alone in private. Once that is accomplished you have no idea where it is going. If you have any game at all, I'd think you could turn that situation into full-on sex, if not at the initial private meeting, at the second one. I even offer that to girls at times, when they are nervous. That the first time we're alone, they aren't committing to fucking me (but that we're going to play and have a good time). Once they are alone and realize I am actually a normal and nice guy and I am not going to molest them (well, other than how they usually like that), they often thaw out and want to get crazy.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5140008]None of you seems to have any imagination. There are many hurdles girls need to get over to do the deed. They don't want to think of themselves as hookers, of course, and then there's just general nervousness about sex w / someone new. This may be her way of managing these anxieties, . To me the whole point is to get the girl alone in private. Once that is accomplished you have no idea where it is going. If you have any game at all, I'd think you could turn that situation into full-on sex, if not at the initial private meeting, at the second one. I even offer that to girls at times, when they are nervous. That the first time we're alone, they aren't committing to fucking me (but that we're going to play and have a good time). Once they are alone and realize I am actually a normal and nice guy and I am not going to molest them (well, other than how they usually like that), they often thaw out and want to get crazy.[/QUOTE]I tell you what, you shell out $400 and hope that she's lying. Then you can let the rest of us know.

[QUOTE=RavensFan2012;5140274]I tell you what, you shell out $400 and hope that she's lying. Then you can let the rest of us know.[/QUOTE]I too, want to see what $400 bones plus some "imagination" gets you.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5140008]None of you seems to have any imagination. There are many hurdles girls need to get over to do the deed. They don't want to think of themselves as hookers, of course, and then there's just general nervousness about sex w / someone new. This may be her way of managing these anxieties, . To me the whole point is to get the girl alone in private. Once that is accomplished you have no idea where it is going. If you have any game at all, I'd think you could turn that situation into full-on sex, if not at the initial private meeting, at the second one. I even offer that to girls at times, when they are nervous. That the first time we're alone, they aren't committing to fucking me (but that we're going to play and have a good time). Once they are alone and realize I am actually a normal and nice guy and I am not going to molest them (well, other than how they usually like that), they often thaw out and want to get crazy.[/QUOTE]You make a good point and I agree that if you treat a woman with respect and are able to get her alone things could change. Don't pressure her into something she doesn't want to do. If she just wants to "Play around" then I would be open to that but then I would ask her to drop her price dramatically. If making her feel comfortable and she still doesn't want to drop the price then I would see that as a red flag. We have to be smart as well beause we all know that there are a lot of scammers out there and $400 is a lot to charge for giving her oral LOL. But that is just my opinion.

[QUOTE=August23;5117742]Anyone had any luck with Daisy, 35 yr Asian.[/QUOTE]I saw her a couple times a couple years ago. Good looking, very skilled and very tight. She wanted $300 a visit but I got her to $200. We always went to eat after and she would order a ton of takeout to take home. Guessing she has a big family to feed.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5140008]None of you seems to have any imagination. There are many hurdles girls need to get over to do the deed. They don't want to think of themselves as hookers, of course, and then there's just general nervousness about sex w / someone new. This may be her way of managing these anxieties, . To me the whole point is to get the girl alone in private. Once that is accomplished you have no idea where it is going. If you have any game at all, I'd think you could turn that situation into full-on sex, if not at the initial private meeting, at the second one. I even offer that to girls at times, when they are nervous. That the first time we're alone, they aren't committing to fucking me (but that we're going to play and have a good time). Once they are alone and realize I am actually a normal and nice guy and I am not going to molest them (well, other than how they usually like that), they often thaw out and want to get crazy.[/QUOTE]She's saying that vaginal penetration is extremely painful for her and that's why it's 100% not an option. She messages me every day asking if I'm ready for her to get back to school so I can taste her. I genuinely think she just gets off on getting anonymous oral. She sent pictures of the 🐱 and it does look abnormally small. I'm not sure that her profile picture plus actually her though as she looks white in her profile picture yet the pictures she's send me she looks Latina or even mixed. I'm contemplating giving it one try just to see if I can get anything more from her.


Edit: she just said that reciprocation of oral may be an option after we meet the first time so that’s a positive.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;5140892]She's saying that vaginal penetration is extremely painful for her and that's why it's 100% not an option. She messages me every day asking if I'm ready for her to get back to school so I can taste her. I genuinely think she just gets off on getting anonymous oral. She sent pictures of the 🐱 and it does look abnormally small. I'm not sure that her profile picture plus actually her though as she looks white in her profile picture yet the pictures she's send me she looks Latina or even mixed. I'm contemplating giving it one try just to see if I can get anything more from her.


Edit: she just said that reciprocation of oral may be an option after we meet the first time so thats a positive.[/QUOTE]Be safe brother something just doesn't seem right. Lots of red flags and I know sometimes we are blinded because of the contact you have (texting). Take your time and meet in a public area and go to place of your choosing for first encounter. Not trying to dissuade you but rather cautiously proceed.

[QUOTE=FanRat;5140654]I saw her a couple times a couple years ago. Good looking, very skilled and very tight. She wanted $300 a visit but I got her to $200. We always went to eat after and she would order a ton of takeout to take home. Guessing she has a big family to feed.[/QUOTE]LOL I encountered the same thing. After our 2nd round went to a Mexican restraunt with her after she got me feeling bad for her that she always has to eat alone. She order some nasty ass whole fish still had the head on it not sure it was gutted!! She ate some & got the fish to go!! Drinks like a fish to I got some kinda vodka she likes & was drinking that straight. I got turned off as she bragged she had f*cked 100's of guy!! Her attitude got kinda weird too!!

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;5140892]She's saying that vaginal penetration is extremely painful for her and that's why it's 100% not an option. She messages me every day asking if I'm ready for her to get back to school so I can taste her. I genuinely think she just gets off on getting anonymous oral. She sent pictures of the 🐱 and it does look abnormally small. I'm not sure that her profile picture plus actually her though as she looks white in her profile picture yet the pictures she's send me she looks Latina or even mixed. I'm contemplating giving it one try just to see if I can get anything more from her.


Edit: she just said that reciprocation of oral may be an option after we meet the first time so thats a positive.[/QUOTE]Despite the inconsistency of the photos, I'd take this at face value for the moment. There is this thing called vaginismus, and then there's just anatomy. I had one sugar encounter w / a girl, very pretty south American natural blonde. Perfect perky tits, like a teenage barbie doll. I could barely get my pinkie finger into her though. With a condom and lube we were able to fuck, though I understandably didn't last long. BTW, this was a girl who didn't demand a specific allowance, just wanted whatever I would give her. Anyway, afterward, I never heard from her again, IDK why. Maybe my generosity was inadequate.