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I've looked at all the cities I can see that she has done work in and can't find a single review. Anyone tried this one out since she came to town? She's responded to me pretty quickly, quoting 150/200/300. Without a review or someone vouching, I'm extremely hesitant to TOFTT on this one.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/augusta/161347812[/URL]
[QUOTE=RockyBia;6701836]I've looked at all the cities I can see that she has done work in and can't find a single review. Anyone tried this one out since she came to town? She's responded to me pretty quickly, quoting 150/200/300. Without a review or someone vouching, I'm extremely hesitant to TOFTT on this one.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/augusta/161347812[/URL][/QUOTE]She's legit dreamed of her yesterday. Looks better in person as well.
The 15th is the end of the Road
[QUOTE=Kings;6654602]1) Aries is available.
The contact methods will remain the same. (839) 213-3332, [EMAIL]pleasurep1@gmail.com[/EMAIL] or via pm.
2) Aries will remain low volume.
3) Aries current rate is 150 half /250 hour. On 1 Nov2023 her rates will change to 200 half /300 hour.
4) Aries is 27 years old, 5'2 140 very easy on the eyes. There are pics on the board. I will update visuals by 1 Nov2023.
5) Aries Menu consist of BBBJCIM, lfk (YMMV) and CFS in multiple positions.
Aries will always be fresh out the shower, made up and give you 100 percent effort during your time together. Aries does not engage in BBFS or Anal.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Kings;6681208]I'd like to thank everyone who has stopped by to help these young ladies out. My main reason for dipping my toes back into the industry was to help Aries out. Aries has informed me that she will be leaving 15 Dec 2023. That means my job is done. Billy and Jade will also become unavailable at that time. Idk if you guys understand that all three of these ladies are bisexual and work well together. Ever had a double BBBJ or triple BBBJ? This is your opportunity.[/QUOTE]Do you have pics for Billy or Jade?
[QUOTE=DirtyDev2234;6702739]She's legit dreamed of her yesterday. Looks better in person as well.[/QUOTE]Where is she located? Augusta? Columbia?
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/augusta/female-escorts/caucasian_w/miss-new-booty--828-242-0267/488142991679[/URL]
[QUOTE=MikeHoyt;6618502]Met her at her apartment in North Augusta. It's in a okay place not bad. Set up was quick and easy and after arriving and some small talk I put donation on the table. She's not a true bbw but has some extra pounds. Cute face and has nice titties. Bella really wants to please and she'd asked what I like so we got naked and laid on the bed and she gave me BBBJ and she is good at it I might add. After about 5 minutes of head I pulled her to the side of the bed legs straight up in the air and fucked her while she played with her clit. After she came I got on my knees for a daty, I ate her pussy and sucked her clit and she kept cumming and cumming. Her pussy is nice and clean and very wet! She made me stop and we whiched to doggy for a minute but I wanted to cum in her mouth. She took condom off and went at it for a long time before I cum and never stopped once or complained. Shot a nice load in her mouth and thought she was going to swallow but she did spit it out after getting the very last drop. I would repeat.[/QUOTE]To you black monikers. This one like black men as such as superman love Kryptonite. Read her ad carefully.
[QUOTE=Kings;6704607]The 15th is the end of the Road.[/QUOTE]I saw Aries a couple of weeks ago. A total package of beauty and great personality. Good BBBJ only. But unfortunately 150 or 200 is beyond my feel good budget. And if you follow King instruction you will be well rewarded. For 2024 if you guys come across a BBBJ specialist that work from house. Apartment or trailer give me a holler. 100 is my top bid. Except for Aries I never met a provider worth more then 80. Never met Bridie but I have try.
[QUOTE=NotToShallow;6588411]Totally feel bad as I do love my wife and do treat her with respect.
I apologize and I told her that I'm no good and that she should probably leave me 😅128520; mind manipulation games you fellas know the game 🤣 anyways no seriously.
She was like babe I'm disappointed I'm you. I know that you have a sex addiction.
We fucked two times prior that day and you still go out and seek more. I.
Just want you to change for me because I see the man and know the man that you'll be.
I love you and I want to be with you.
I just tell her that I'm working on it and that I'm sorry for my actions.
She knows that when I was in the military that I used alcohol and drugs to help cope and that it was my outlet.
To frequent the massage parlors and to fuck escorts.
We're on good terms I literally left home and she begged me to come back..[/QUOTE][URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/-/59650715[/URL] was the reason I seeing this one about 10 years. She kept texting my phone but she gave great BBJCIM at 45 at that time. Have anyone seeing her lately.
[QUOTE=Boogie1776;6705772][URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/augusta/female-escorts/caucasian_w/miss-new-booty--828-242-0267/488142991679[/URL][/QUOTE]I've met her, did a visit with a girl she was rooming with. She seemed cool. She's a big thick woman if you're into that sort of thing. I would probably do a dream just to see how the head game was. But she has an awesome personality.
[QUOTE=Oldman22;6705962][URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/-/59650715[/URL] was the reason I seeing this one about 10 years. She kept texting my phone but she gave great BBJCIM at 45 at that time. Have anyone seeing her lately.[/QUOTE]And she 38 year old back then.
[QUOTE=Thenewcmmer;6656480]I've seen her as well at her house. I only visit private residences during the day unless I've seen the person a few times. Ass is perfect, cat is tight. It wasn't very wet though. I'm pretty sure there were kids in the house in a side room. Not sure if they were being "watched" by anyone else but the television was on and there may have been a babysitter. Decent visit (I nutted antleast) and she never rushed but I'm in no rush to return.[/QUOTE]I try calling this one and this provider wanted 150 for a BBJ. Hell to the naw. We need to get these prices down fellows.
[QUOTE=BigBen07;6706038]I've met her, did a visit with a girl she was rooming with. She seemed cool. She's a big thick woman if you're into that sort of thing. I would probably do a dream just to see how the head game was. But she has an awesome personality.[/QUOTE]Let us know is the head game great and donation and rooming situation. . thanks BigBen07.
[QUOTE=Oldman22;6705950]I saw Aries a couple of weeks ago. A total package of beauty and great personality. Good BBBJ only. But unfortunately 150 or 200 is beyond my feel good budget. And if you follow King instruction you will be well rewarded. For 2024 if you guys come across a BBBJ specialist that work from house. Apartment or trailer give me a holler. 100 is my top bid. Except for Aries I never met a provider worth more then 80. Never met Bridie but I have try.[/QUOTE]Birdie is top notch, but you won't get anything for less than 2 bills. Great massage with the happiest of endings. It's high but definitely quality.
Pathetic is all I can say! Reached out to her for a quick visit $80 . Believe me she should have been paying me. Let me start off by saying comms very hard to get in touch with and days later when responding! Everything is covered and I don't know if she just doesn't know how to give head or just absolutely terrible at it and no effort whatsoever. I get hard bend her over the bed and she's just a dead fuck!! No enthusiasm no effort at all into making you want to come back for more. I definitely would not recommend save your money there's a lot better out there for a Qv.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/augusta/female-escorts/caucasian_w/augustas-finest-qv-queen-no-af/806424035173[/URL]
Not a bad looking young lady
[QUOTE=MikeHoyt;6706995]Pathetic is all I can say! Reached out to her for a quick visit $80 . Believe me she should have been paying me. Let me start off by saying comms very hard to get in touch with and days later when responding! Everything is covered and I don't know if she just doesn't know how to give head or just absolutely terrible at it and no effort whatsoever. I get hard bend her over the bed and she's just a dead fuck!! No enthusiasm no effort at all into making you want to come back for more. I definitely would not recommend save your money there's a lot better out there for a Qv.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/augusta/female-escorts/caucasian_w/augustas-finest-qv-queen-no-af/806424035173[/URL][/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Kings;6707372]Not a bad looking young lady.[/QUOTE]No pics not accurate. She didn't look close to what her pics are on STG or Sumosearch. Maybe she just woke up and just didn't put on makeup. But rough looking that day.
[QUOTE=ScTraveler92;6668758]Both look like nice, young promising options but seems TGTBT[/QUOTE]Nobody in Augusta dreamed with this chic. Wow.
[QUOTE=Whoremoans;6708556]Came across an expose post on a potential and in the post it claimed the girl was actually 17 and that she is on Augusta BOPs expose page. Has anyone heard of that before.[/QUOTE]Not even sure what you mean? What is the BOP expose?
So after the confirmation that she is legit, I decided to try her out. Definitely outside my normal price range for sure- a QV runs $. 5. So I dreamed that she is in a nicer place, safe environment, clean room. She is the girl in the pics, and she is smoking hot. I love her body- she is lithe, with long legs, beautiful face, small perky tits, and lots of tattoos. She is friendly and chatty, and made me comfortable from the moment I stepped in. She started with a nice HJ, lubed and slow with two hands. Then after a bit she put the cover no and started deep throating and she can definitely DT. I'm not the biggest guy ever, but my is dick by no means for the faint of heart. She took it all the way to the hilt. The CBJ was fantastic but it didn't last long enough. I want them to make me believe they don't want to stop and I have to make them stop. My biggest complaint is that she would only do doggy. I detest doggy as the only option because I like to explore and feel and lick and kiss what the lady has going on. Definitely a tit man. While her ass is beautiful, and her balloon knot it also amazing, I would have rather been playing with her tits and sucking some nipples and burning her hot face into my memory. She was tight and I enjoyed watching her gripping lips cling to my cock as it slid in and out. For the price versus what you actually get, I just can't repeat. It's a lot of money for what I feel like is half the access I'd like and the performance of a provider who costs half the money. YMMV.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/augusta/161660165[/URL]
[QUOTE=ScTraveler92;6668743]Her videos look promising for a sloppy BJ. Has anyone seen this one?
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/7062398001[/URL][/QUOTE]Cool chick, and the Head A1.
[QUOTE=Whoremoans;6709515]I was looking at a provider's post, scrolled and saw someone else used her ad to warn people of her real age. On that same ad it said the provider is actually 17 and has is on "Augusta bops expose page" so I'm asking does anyone know what that is?[/QUOTE]It means someone has posted about her and linked her personal page to one of those facebook "expose" pages in our area. Means nothing to the average guy in the hobby.
On the other hand, if they have personal problems with people who know them on social media and / or have others who are posting on EC / STP I would just go ahead and stay away. Any unwanted attention could cause problems. Don't know if she truly is as old as they say on their posts but I wasn't planning on contacting her anyways.
Anyone seen this chick? The body pics are extremely nice, although I'd like to know what the face looks like. I may end up TOFTT on this.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/augusta/female-escorts/caucasian_w/7067509661--dreamyy-----hidden/224080734287[/URL]
[QUOTE=RockyBia;6711842]Anyone seen this chick? The body pics are extremely nice, although I'd like to know what the face looks like. I may end up TOFTT on this.
[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/augusta/female-escorts/caucasian_w/7067509661--dreamyy-----hidden/224080734287[/URL][/QUOTE]Look like fake pictures to me.
Was she banned? I'm starting to think she was a scammer, and I just lost $25. All her skipthegames post are gone.
[QUOTE=Oldman22;6712636]Look like fake pictures to me.[/QUOTE]I haven't met her, but the black chick used to go by Jazzy or something a couple years ago, there were rumors she worked with 5-0, not sure, but that was the word.
I had a nightmare about this troglodyte, the nightmare started about an 45 minutes late. I ended up picking her up about a 5 minute walk to start. She was lower mid for a spinner and she reached out a couple days later so she had no discretion. Avoid at all costs.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/augusta/161839610[/URL]
[QUOTE=BlackPabtsu;6713499]Was she banned? I'm starting to think she was a scammer, and I just lost $25. All her skipthegames post are gone.[/QUOTE]If you prepay any STG girl, there's a better chance than not that you'll get scammed. If she was banned from there, that's quite a feat because you've got to work really hard to get banned from there.
[QUOTE=BlackPabtsu;6713499]Was she banned? I'm starting to think she was a scammer, and I just lost $25. All her skipthegames post are gone.[/QUOTE]You didn't miss anything. There's plenty of decent looking providers that can do what ever piss poor job she was going to do, but better and cheaper. Also did you send her a deposit?
[QUOTE=RockyBia;6714426]You didn't miss anything. There's plenty of decent looking providers that can do what ever piss poor job she was going to do, but better and cheaper. Also did you send her a deposit?[/QUOTE]I was trying to buy one of her videos as soon as I sent her the money all her stuff disappeared.
[QUOTE=WayToFarGone;6714123]I had a nightmare about this troglodyte, the nightmare started about an 45 minutes late. I ended up picking her up about a 5 minute walk to start. She was lower mid for a spinner and she reached out a couple days later so she had no discretion. Avoid at all costs.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/augusta/161839610[/URL][/QUOTE]Could you try to use a coherent sentence to a message across?
[QUOTE=Kings;6704607]The 15th is the end of the Road
.[/QUOTE]I suggest you guys haul your butts to Aiken. She is a gem. Remind me of Lexis from around 2016 era. To bad to she is leaving. And thanks to King for looking out for the oldman.
I see that Holly is spending some time with her Uncle LEO in Columbia County.
With hour notice, definitely leaving area Tuesday
[QUOTE=Oldman22;6716611]I suggest you guys haul your butts to Aiken. She is a gem. Remind me of Lexis from around 2016 era. To bad to she is leaving. And thanks to King for looking out for the oldman.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=Kings;6718929]With hour notice, definitely leaving area Tuesday.[/QUOTE]Clear out your inbox man.
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/missy/60695455[/URL] Anyone have any Intel on this young lady?
[QUOTE=WayToFarGone;6714123]I had a nightmare about this troglodyte, the nightmare started about an 45 minutes late. I ended up picking her up about a 5 minute walk to start. She was lower mid for a spinner and she reached out a couple days later so she had no discretion. Avoid at all costs.
[URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/augusta/161839610[/URL][/QUOTE]If you catch her on a good day it's worth the visit. When she's high you can tell with her ghetto accent and best to back off.
She has been posting an ad on STG for a few weeks. Pics look nice, but her comms are delayed and sporadic. Anyone seen or know anything about her?
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/ryann-aka-titty-city-is-here-to-play/60735191[/URL]
Thanks,
-drms.
Last year she was on the run from the laws for stealing like 30 something grand from a disabled individual.
Here is the link to the ad.
[URL]https://www.wjbf.com/news/crime-news/grovetown-police-searching-for-woman-accused-of-theft-and-exploiting-disabled-adult/amp/[/URL]
[QUOTE=DrmsIllNvrSee;6723799]She has been posting an ad on STG for a few weeks. Pics look nice, but her comms are delayed and sporadic. Anyone seen or know anything about her?
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/ryann-aka-titty-city-is-here-to-play/60735191[/URL]
Thanks,
-drms.[/QUOTE]
OK so I've been lurking on this forum and doing my thing with many of these ladies for a while now and finally got my login issues squared away so I can finally post. This is about to be a hell of a first post I hope.
I can give my personal reviews on several ladies I've seen or attempted to see in Augusta / Aiken. I haven't seen a lot of them because I tend to repeat with the ones I like and a lot of the ones. I see get posted about look like some real gutter crackhead trash that should not be charging more than 20 bucks let alone $120 for a qv but to each their own.
The list.
1. Muffin ([URL]https://escortbabylon.net/info_stats/6782518942[/URL]).
Seen her 3 times. Every time she comes into town I try to slide through. Very short and petite girl, with a nice body. She's really good at what she does and seems to enjoy it too. Usually get a half hour or an hour. Plays some sensual music during the session and that adds to the vibe she has. She's good at riding and gives lots of eye contact during the time spent. And while the session is fully covered, she is still well worth the visit and definitely one of the best Augusta has when she comes to visit.
2. Anna Storm ([URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/augusta/female-escorts/latin/smoking-hot--sexy-brazilian-se/508807015587[/URL]).
Tried her after some difficulty getting into contact. Did a hhr with her. She's a curvy Latina with a southern accent. Ass way bigger than I expected. Doggy style was the only thing I got from her besides some pretty decent head. The condoms she had were trash so I had to finish myself off and came on her big ass. Pretty decent for the price. Offered me a discount to make a video with her LOL. Would go back, if I needed something quick and she answered first, or if I all of a sudden wanted to fuck her on camera.
3. Majestystaxx ([URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/albany-ga/female-escorts/caucasian_w/exclusive-super-soaker-big-boo/015058024477[/URL]).
Just going to put this here, This is a fake profile. Not real. Don't fall for the ghetto tatted big booty pawg (yes I'm talking to you).
4. Judy-Big Booty ([URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/augusta/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lets-have-some-funbig-booty-ju/952360720018[/URL]).
Out of all the ones listed, I've seen her the most. She is kinda a trailer trash looking white girl with a really nice ass. We chat and I can tell she's feeling me, because she doesn't even ask for the money before jumping me and we pretty much get into it immediately. She gives me a pretty solid BJ that was covered at first but I told her I'd like a BBBJ and she agreed.
When we get to fucking, man that ass is deceptive. We jump into it and in every position is fucking me back like a woman possessed. She is super enthusiastic shaking, twerking, bouncing that big ass into me. It was so great from just the visual because idk where the hell she learned how to move like that. Reverse cowgirl was the same absolutely great. Her ass and the way she moves it is the highlight. We run through every position you can think of, none as good as the ones focusing on that ass. Overall she is solid. I'm an ass guy so I was pleased and I went back several times after. Made videos, shower sex, car sex, sex after she cooked me a pork chop lmao, all the sex. Until I unknowingly fucked her friend and made her mad. Are. I. P. The 2 girl I could've got from these white girls.
5. Hot Blonde-friend of Judy ([URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/aiken/female-escorts/caucasian_w/sexy-seductive--sweet-blonde-8/444459319189[/URL]).
Oh boy let me go ahead and say that she is the better looking one of the two and the sex with her is crazy. She's short with a nice body and you can tell that she could be a good looking girl (normal standards, not skipthegames standards) if she wasn't in her current situation. She's super energetic and loves fucking back as well. Head isn't that great, pussy is good but her energy more than makes up for any negatives in the sex. Idk where she learned it but she's really good. I would put her near the top for the first 2 times I saw her. The 3rd time I went to her room and it was the same room # that Judy (see above) and I fucked in and when I walked in. Of course she was in there too. She's giving me the evil eye and I just ignore her completely. The blonde is telling me that Judy and the black dude that's with them are telling her to rob me which she doesn't do, but she said that next time they will probably try to do it so I fucked the hell out of her since it was my last time with her. She got ALL the nut from me and all is good. So the session goes well and the whole time my phone is blowing up and it's Judy going apeshit and being mad that I fucked the blonde. I just block both of them lmao after that I was done.
6. Short cutie w booty-forgot her name ([URL]https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/georgia/augusta/162340665[/URL]).
She is the definition of mid. She isn't good at anything but she's not terrible either. She's a thick white girl with kind of a sloppier build. Big ass tho. She's a decent fuck for a QV when you're in a pinch and you need a backup and that's it. Doggy is all she seems to want to do anyway do that's your go to. I will say, it felt like she had no walls so that was a huge let down. I was not finishing at all with her and had to do it myself with a HJ. Smh.
7. Creamy ([URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/augusta/female-escorts/black_caribbean/creamy-here-limited-time-only-/816467198607[/URL]).
She is fire. When you can get into contact with her. She was doing her thing like 2 min from where I stayed so I was mad as fuck that for both visits it took so damn long to see her. It was worth it in the end though. She looks exactly like the pictures, thick and curvy girl. Her ass is a little smaller than I expected but she was very cool. Once she got comfortable with me the sex was very good. Good head. Pussy was really nice, and she had some sexy ass moans while we fucked. Easily one of the better ones, when she's around and when she answers the phone.
8. The Sexy Arilover ([URL]https://tryst.link/escort/marilyn1[/URL]).
She's definitely my favorite rn. More expensive than you all would probably pay for and I was initially skeptical too. Then I realized I can definitely afford it and I was kinda tired of the flakeliness and straight up ugliness I was seeing on skipthegames and listcrawler. So I went on Tryst to see what was there. I stumbled onto her because her pics looked good. Definitely model type body, pretty face, just a nice petite frame, but when I saw the prices I noped out and kept looking. And saw nothing else worth a damn. I didn't want to fuck one of the super expensive girls visiting at the time. I didn't want to fuck a bigger girl, so no BBW Bridget and I already fucked Chanel Rose who carries all of her "big" in her ass a few times (more on her later). Eventually I went back and said fuck it you only live once and I am so glad I did. Easily the best experience I had. Me and her had crazy chemistry from the get go and she easily climbed towards the top for me. We did just a few positions for the hour including an insane stretch of CG where she rode me so hard, I thought she was going to pass out. It was like she really was starved of dick. She was deepthroating, and really worshipping my dick all throughout it was crazy. Talking dirty and the eye contact was the cherry on top. Usually when I finish I'm ready to go but I was still hard and ready to keep going which proved that we probably could've if I wanted to be a broke ass idiot. I'm probably going to try to holler at her this weekend because she was amazing. The Incall was real cool too, no hotel which is always nice.
9. Jessie blu (hasn't posted in a while, no link for her!
She doesn't Answer her phone.
After seeing multiple posts I got curious and then immediately uninterested when she would take ages to respond and set something up. I would ask for the address and get nothing. I would ask which room and get nothing. After two times of trying I gave her one more chance when I saw the ad and she finally came thru for me offering me that 80 hhr special she does.
She looked like a middle aged pawg with wide hips and looked very frumpy in the outfit she met me in. Some baggy jeans and a sweater. I was not impressed. The clothes came off and I could see the vision, especially when she turned around LOL. She talked a bit about how she hasn't had dick all day, and how I look like I can fuck her "pretty tight * hard" and pretty much jumped me. Not going to lie, that turned me on but I hate to say that I wasn't really feeling this session tbh, she was too slow for me. I need more energy and she was kinda bland in that aspect. The head was ok, it was a BBBJ but it did nothing for me. We did standing doggy and the ass was doing its thing. Got to recording of me pounding her in this position and she was definitely making some noise. Her moans were deceptive because they sounded like they didn't belong to her. Her pussy was also very wet which was a plus.
She's good in a pinch. IF SHE ANSWERS HER PHONE, but since she does that 2/10 times, I'm not seeing her again unless there's a $50 hhr special.
10. Chanel Rose ([URL]https://tryst.link/escort/chanel_rose[/URL]).
If you really like big asses (like me) you really can't do much better than her in Augusta. She is very cool, sweet and funny too. On the taller side, curves for days and a big ol ass that she knows how to move with ease. Doggy, reverse cowgirl, prone bone are must haves (though prone will be hard if you can't get past those cheeks of hers). I've seen her a few times and she was worth it every time. Don't do the QV, it's not enough time. You got to savor that ass for a longer visit. She travels a lot so it's tough to get a session sometimes but it's worth the wait. Incall was nice as well. Have a nice video of her twerking and bouncing fast and hard on my dick and man. I got to hit her up again too LOL.
11. Khara / spidergirldowntown ([URL]https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/khara-escort-augusta-389149[/URL]).
Was very horny one night after I just got to Augusta and I thought I see someone had recommended her. I hit her up and she offered me a very cheap hhr visit. Like Very cheap. Went for it and got there and she was very rough looking and I almost left no bullshit. Decided against fucking her and got some head because I remembered that she was supposed to be The goat / head doctor. She was awful man. I didn't cum and made the excuse that it was a "ghost nut" to make her believe she did something. She probably bought it, she was definitely on something. Never again.
That's all I can remember right now. Any others I might have seen were so forgettable or the others I didn't mention had such shitty comms that I forgot about them. I've seen a few posts about some UTR girls that might be worth trying out, but I would like some more info before I jump in.