[QUOTE=Tony 9; 1825994]She now takes credit as well![/QUOTE]Tony, why leave a paper trail to your front door?
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[QUOTE=Tony 9; 1825994]She now takes credit as well![/QUOTE]Tony, why leave a paper trail to your front door?
Where do you slide your plastic? LOL.
Even if she was busted they wouldn't be able to prove that your experience paying with the credit card involved any type of "extras". But if you have any other ties (be / f, g / f, significant other, furry, etc.) it could present a risk for you.
And in other news. Had a dream of J off N Lindbergh behind the payless. Massage was heavy with little lube which was making me feel chaffed on my back and legs. Ending was OK. Rest of the massage really wasn't. Wish she was nude. And would let me 'play' with her <sigh she seems nice enough but my 6th sense told me she wasn't really into me even at 1. 2.
[QUOTE=Chet Font;1826604]Tony, why leave a paper trail to your front door?[/QUOTE]
I have tried all three Sunrise, Evergreen and RiverSide past few weeks.
Of the three, Sunrise was the most professional where you hear no excuses and masseuses not being over demanding on giving tips while leaving. That also means very less or no teasing. I saw the same lady who used to be at the front desk an year ago, again last week. So looks like the management didn't change after all.
Evergreen, the masseuse were just a little playful compared to Sunrise, one of the times, I had a masseuse cut me little on time, when it was between managements.
Riverside, this is was least professional of all. I had an appointment with Axa (50yr) once, and I was made to wait for 40 minutes from the scheduled time. Whats funny is, they take your money upfront so you can't leave and there are times when there is no person at the front desk. Even though its been said, if Axa gets familiar to you, she might get little friendly towards you on the teasing or HE, I can't stand her cutting short on time or making you wait for her.
[QUOTE=SlyMan123; 1824884]I have been to two places where I have tried to get extras with my massage and have gotten nothing. I have almost given up on it in this area. I am new to trying this but just from reading other post and the things I have seen, I believe going to an AMP here will lead to nothing more than a massage.
I have been to Sunrise on Olive. I have seen three girls there and got nothing more than a few nudges and bumps. They use a full cover there and some will use it to its full extent and others are very loose with it. I tried getting close to one. Seen her four times and even up front asked her to do more with a straight up no. The massages were really good but that's all you will get. Rooms are clean and enclosed. Some will leave the door ajar while other completely closed. The staff is friendly as well but the three I seen did not know much if any English. All were 40 or older.
The other place I checked out was on 5th Street in St Charles. Same thing as the other nothing more than a massage. The cover was a small towel. All of the girls there were also 40 and older. Seen two of the girls there and one of them twice. There was no bumping or anything. The thing I really did not like is they left the door open pretty wide and their doors are rigged to never close. I asked to close the door and she said she left it open because it gets too hot which is bs because I tried to close the door and could not. Another time it was so loud from phone calls and family members of the other girls there coming in to visit. The girls her know little to no English as well. I will never return to this place. The massages were just okay but with all the noises and excuses, there are better places.
I will post more if I go to any more AMPs around the area but I have given up on them unless I just get a massage. Want more info pm me.[/QUOTE]
Decided to give sunrise one more shot today. I did not book an appointment with the one I was getting to know like I usually do. This time it was someone new that I had not seen before. A 5 out of 10 as far as looks go. Went in and tipped her a little up front before it even started. I did this in hopes that when I talked about extras, she would have already been a little more open minded about it. I said I did not need a cover and she took it off but tucked it in covering the goods.
The massage was really good but the main focus was on the back side. Did not massage the front very much. We talked and I got to know her a little more. She had not worked there very long. Her English was not good and had to use other ways to communicate. On the turn I asked her if she would do more and she looked at me confused. I had to point to myself and she realized what I wanted. She said no and I said I would tip more and still got a no. Afterwards she asked me to come back again. I am sticking with my previous post and saying that the only thing you will get at any of the places I have visited is a massage and nothing more.
If you want more info let me know.
I always pay cash and call with a Tracfone. If she was busted, they would know your name from the credit card records and your phone number from her cell phone records.
[QUOTE=Xesta Ciose; 1826669]Where do you slide your plastic? LOL.
Even if she was busted they wouldn't be able to prove that your experience paying with the credit card involved any type of "extras". But if you have any other ties (be / f, g / f, significant other, furry, etc.) it could present a risk for you.
And in other news. Had a dream of J off N Lindbergh behind the payless. Massage was heavy with little lube which was making me feel chaffed on my back and legs. Ending was OK. Rest of the massage really wasn't. Wish she was nude. And would let me 'play' with her <sigh she seems nice enough but my 6th sense told me she wasn't really into me even at 1. 2.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chet Font;1827030]I always pay cash and call with a Tracfone. If she was busted, they would know your name from the credit card records and your phone number from her cell phone records.[/QUOTE]There is just no way I would pay with a credit card, or let any business in this hobby have any of my personal information, or signature for that matter.
It's just too easy now days to track it back to you, when you could just hand over cash and not have to worry about it.
I also had a bad experience with a now out of business escort service in St. Louis, that was the one and only time I used a credit card. The owner called me back the week after my appointment and threatened to give my info to the cops if I didn't pay her girls a return visit At twice the previous price.
In my book that's highway robbery, and I was pissed as hell. You will never catch me giving out my credit card info again.
[QUOTE=SlyMan123; 1826835]Decided to give sunrise one more shot today. I did not book an appointment with the one I was getting to know like I usually do. This time it was someone new that I had not seen before. A 5 out of 10 as far as looks go. Went in and tipped her a little up front before it even started. I did this in hopes that when I talked about extras, she would have already been a little more open minded about it. I said I did not need a cover and she took it off but tucked it in covering the goods.
The massage was really good but the main focus was on the back side. Did not massage the front very much. We talked and I got to know her a little more. She had not worked there very long. Her English was not good and had to use other ways to communicate. On the turn I asked her if she would do more and she looked at me confused. I had to point to myself and she realized what I wanted. She said no and I said I would tip more and still got a no. Afterwards she asked me to come back again. I am sticking with my previous post and saying that the only thing you will get at any of the places I have visited is a massage and nothing more.
If you want more info let me know.[/QUOTE]Go check out BP and look up grand opening Asian massage april4th. They will take care of your Asian crave.
You could always go to the foot massage place and ask for Annie. She asks for too much for the non inspired ending though.
Kim at Kim-joes will get the blood pumping at least also. Sunrise sucks dude.
[QUOTE=SlyMan123; 1826021]Xesta.
Thanks for the information. I have not even tried looking on CL at all. I was trying my luck at going to an establishment and seeing if I could get one of the girls to give me some extras. Like I have said before I am new to this and read up on the tips and tricks but I feel it is dead for the AMPs here. I will do some more research and give a few more places a try.
I love Asian women and prefer them above all else. I will always go to them first if I can get a chance. I will have more information as I get it. Thank you all again for the information you have provided. I have found good information from what you guys have posted. Just hoping my information is useful and can contribute to the cause.
I will post my experience of my message I will be getting tomorrow.[/QUOTE]If you want to get a happy ending at an Asian place, the ones in Illinois are the place to go. There are a couple in Centreville, and one or two more in Fairview Hgts off 159. If you want FS, go to the one in Centreville that's right across the street from a strip club. Can't recall the name.
[QUOTE=OldDawg; 1826180]All due respect dude, but you may not really know what happened with Lake and Bella and why she left. You have one side of the story, and none of us were there. About a 3 months ago I had an appt with Bella that I prebooked and Lake called me the day before and said she was sorry, but Bella had quit. That same thing happened last week when Bella AGAIN quit with no notice, and I got a call from Lake about my standing appt. I saw Bella every week, she was one of my favorites too.
I liked Bella, but I hate to see Lake get dragged through the mud here. She provides a safe, dependable service, and that's invaluable in this hobby. I have heard all of us complaining about unreliable rip off providers, and YNGD is the one service I have ever found in 20+ years that I just don't have those issues with. I think she does a great job finding unbelievable girls and running it like an actual business.
Let's not fault her for trying to provide a better service than the other random "talent" that attempt to rip us off on a daily basis. Just sayin'.[/QUOTE]Olddawg excellent info. Thank you. Very helpful.
I agree. Lake is good at what she does and I like how she provides us excellent ladies who provide high quality service, deliver as promised always. Very safe. As you say that is golden.
Nothing to be taken away from Bella who was and is a dream. If this was not working for her that us a loss for us. I hope she pops up elsewhere.
Again. This is a highly useful post. Thank you so much.
[QUOTE=CubWin1908;1827425]If you want to get a happy ending at an Asian place, the ones in Illinois are the place to go. There are a couple in Centreville, and one or two more in Fairview Hgts off 159. If you want FS, go to the one in Centreville that's right across the street from a strip club. Can't recall the name.[/QUOTE]I have read some really bad things about the places over in Illinois. Either people being ripped off or catching things you never want to catch. Just did not see good things from them. I also could have read a lot of negative reports too. Thanks for the heads up though.
Sorry. VIP was closed. Hit up Pink.
(as of last week)
[QUOTE=CubWin1908;1827425]If you want to get a happy ending at an Asian place, the ones in Illinois are the place to go. There are a couple in Centreville, and one or two more in Fairview Hgts off 159. If you want FS, go to the one in Centreville that's right across the street from a strip club. Can't recall the name.[/QUOTE]
Hey gang. Long time follower, decided to post about my visit with Angel from YGND two weeks ago.
Seemed to be nice part of town (at least in daylight). Needless to say, as with most (all?) of Lake's girls, Angel's pictures on the website weren't of her, but I was surprised and pleased with how pretty her face is. Angel seemed a little cool and distant, not saying much, but I agree with others' take that she is probably just playing it safe until she gets to know you.
The massage wasn't anything spectacular, but after the flip, she got naked and got on top of me on the table, putting the goods right in my face. The view was nice, and she did not hesitate to rub the girls on The King's Iron. Angel was okay with touching, just no FIV. Her breasts are fake, and the left one felt kind of lumpy, which was kind of a turnoff for me, being a breast man. The finish was very good, though. Other hobbyists on here have said they got the feeling that extras were a possibility, but as this was my first time with Angel, I was hesitant to push the issue. I like the safety and professionalism associated with using Lake's girls and I didn't want to get blacklisted.
Final score? Face 9, Body 8, Performance 7. Probably won't see her again anytime soon, since I have yet to see Kendra or Chloe. When I get some free time, I will post about Bella, though it is unclear if she is coming back to YGND.
B
You can go during the day (starting at noon) to places behind hustler in Washington Park. Just ALWAYS use a cover. Even for oral.
I had one close call in Brooklyn before a private with some tall black gal. She danced in front of me and I saw warts. So no go there. Even covered.
If you are worried about your security, get a mongering buddy. LOL. Make it a contest who can get there first in the stalls LMAO.
It really shouldn't be an issue tho if you go during the day.
If you need further specific reccomendations PM me. After you make one more substantial posting.
[QUOTE=SlyMan123;1827931]I have read some really bad things about the places over in Illinois. Either people being ripped off or catching things you never want to catch. Just did not see good things from them. I also could have read a lot of negative reports too. Thanks for the heads up though.[/QUOTE]
Thanks again. Xesta you have been very helpful so far. Thanks you for sharing what you know. That is one of the things I hope I never run into. I will always use a cover. Don't want it falling off LOL. That is my main concern is watch what I can catch. Just made another post and I will hold off on the info until later. Pm me if you need info on my recent outings.
[QUOTE=Xesta Ciose; 1828047]You can go during the day (starting at noon) to places behind hustler in Washington Park. Just ALWAYS use a cover. Even for oral.
I had one close call in Brooklyn before a private with some tall black gal. She danced in front of me and I saw warts. So no go there. Even covered.
If you are worried about your security, get a mongering buddy. LOL. Make it a contest who can get there first in the stalls LMAO.
It really shouldn't be an issue tho if you go during the day.
If you need further specific reccomendations PM me. After you make one more substantial posting.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Xesta Ciose; 1828033]Sorry. VIP was closed. Hit up Pink.
(as of last week) [/QUOTE]VIP closed? Anyone know the details about this, like if it's permanent or due to LE? Just curious as this is my go to place when other arrangements don't work out.
[QUOTE=Evader54;1829807]VIP closed? Anyone know the details about this, like if it's permanent or due to LE? Just curious as this is my go to place when other arrangements don't work out.[/QUOTE]I too think of VIP as my ace on the hole.
Any news or update would be welcome. I may have to venture over there to see for myself.
O 46
Hey guys, long time lurker but never got around to posting so, it's time for payback for all the info.
First dream I had was of Angie in West County. I think she has moved since then. I dreamed that the massage was fair at best but she had a great attitude, very sexy if you like thicker girls (which I do), amazing breasts with HE finish. Would like to repeat in the future but the massage part was so so. If it was better, I would be there every time.
Second dream was Dee when she was around, this doesn't really matter since she is gone but very friendly, older, bolt ons, lets you do pretty much anything you want. Better massage but not as attractive obviously.
Third was the AMP in Swansea, Il. Weird dream there. Basically all three girls that work there came in at different times to give me my massage in my dream. The youngest girl was the finisher. Just felt weird and uncomfortable. Won't be back ever.
Then there are the old standby AMPs that everyone on here has basically been disappointed at. I dreamed that evergreen was the best (just changed names BTW, can't remember what the new business cards say) followed by Sunrise and then the one in north county by Ameristar. They are basically all the same, great massage but little to no action. Most will let you finish by yourself.
I know there are a lot of therapists that do the "full body" massage. However, they typically don't do a decent massage. Could a few guys give their input on who actually gives a great full time, complete full body massage? Even if it is just really good teasing, I would be happy with that. I just don't want to pay for just the ending if you catch my drift.
Thanks in advance.
Be safe out there guys
VIP closes every few years for sometimes months. The sign on the door says closed for remodeling.
[QUOTE=Odysseus 46; 1829811]I too think of VIP as my ace on the hole.
Any news or update would be welcome. I may have to venture over there to see for myself.
O 46[/QUOTE]
Thinking of seeing Miss Tiffany out of U City. Can anyone tell me what to expect if I go see her? Hoping for Nude like pics. Have a felling it's topless.
[QUOTE=Fbm014;1830416]Thinking of seeing Miss Tiffany out of U City. Can anyone tell me what to expect if I go see her? Hoping for Nude like pics. Have a felling it's topless.[/QUOTE]My experience was topless. Tiff seemed proud of her body. Maybe she will show more of now. Good luck
VIP closes every few years for sometimes months. The sign on the door says closed for remodeling.
[QUOTE=Odysseus 46; 1829811]I too think of VIP as my ace on the hole.
Any news or update would be welcome. I may have to venture over there to see for myself.
O 46[/QUOTE]
Anyone seen a provider who goes by Jazzy or Jazzytits with 324-374-xxxx number?
[url]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/want-to-feel-special-let-me-massage-with-a-special-touch-30/10955890[/url]
[QUOTE=Stlconnoisseur; 1830634]Anyone seen a provider who goes by Jazzy or Jazzytits with 324-374-xxxx number?
[url]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/want-to-feel-special-let-me-massage-with-a-special-touch-30/10955890[/url][/QUOTE]There is one good review on RTP. I have not seen her.
[QUOTE=Fbm014;1830416]Thinking of seeing Miss Tiffany out of U City. Can anyone tell me what to expect if I go see her? Hoping for Nude like pics. Have a felling it's topless.[/QUOTE]Yep, topless, and likes for her firm tits to be played with. She a big woman, and by no means is she fat, her entire body is firm. She's an older woman maybe 40 something (if that's considered older). She a few squats and dead lifts away from being in the running for a bodybuilder. Ok that might be pushing it. Anyway, clearly she takes care of herself and the ending is happy.
[QUOTE=Stlconnoisseur; 1830634]Anyone seen a provider who goes by Jazzy or Jazzytits with 324-374-xxxx number?
[url]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/want-to-feel-special-let-me-massage-with-a-special-touch-30/10955890[/url][/QUOTE]Jazzy has a massage room in a legal office off Olive. She does a decent job on the massage, bares her DD's for the flip and finish. There is more to be had on the menu, and think it may depend on your familiarity. Take extra cash and negotiate. It is a good stop.
Anyone have info on the gal in St. Peters. She is appealing to my pocket book, her tits are appealing to my little brain.
[url]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/buy-one-get-one-free-today-29/11734870[/url]
I recently had a negative experience there. Just wanted to give a heads up. I walked out after a lame massage and we couldn't communicate on getting to the fun. Same Old Gals trying to look young. Skinning. Lacking any curves. Personally I'd keep your funds. To hit and miss at the moment.
Hi Guys,
Eventhough I have been in this forum since couple of months, this is my very first post. This forum is very informative and gives me a clear idea to select which provider I like to go with. Thanks all for the info you guys provide.
I haven't seen any new posts regarding Jen from Florrisant. Did anyone had an appointment with her?
[url]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/get-the-best-massage-and-feel-relaxed-for-your-day/10698040[/url]
Thanks,
Chinna
[QUOTE=ChinnaSwami; 1831645]Hi Guys,
Eventhough I have been in this forum since couple of months, this is my very first post. This forum is very informative and gives me a clear idea to select which provider I like to go with. Thanks all for the info you guys provide.
I haven't seen any new posts regarding Jen from Florrisant. Did anyone had an appointment with her?
[url]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/get-the-best-massage-and-feel-relaxed-for-your-day/10698040[/url]
Thanks,
Chinna[/QUOTE]I have seen her a couple times, she is cute and does a nice massage for the full hour, no rush. .30 extra charge for a HJ finish. May be more but she has never offered and I have not asked. She has a nice private house she works out of in a good neighborhood.
[QUOTE=ChinnaSwami; 1831645]Hi Guys,
Eventhough I have been in this forum since couple of months, this is my very first post. This forum is very informative and gives me a clear idea to select which provider I like to go with. Thanks all for the info you guys provide.
I haven't seen any new posts regarding Jen from Florrisant. Did anyone had an appointment with her?
[url]http://stlouis.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/get-the-best-massage-and-feel-relaxed-for-your-day/10698040[/url]
Thanks,
Chinna[/QUOTE]There are plenty of reviews on here of this Jen and the other Jenns and Jennys. Just dig back.
LTB
[QUOTE=Brad 243;1831151]I recently had a negative experience there. Just wanted to give a heads up. I walked out after a lame massage and we couldn't communicate on getting to the fun. Same Old Gals trying to look young. Skinning. Lacking any curves. Personally I'd keep your funds. To hit and miss at the moment.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the report. I was really tempted to make the long trip over there.
[QUOTE=SunnyDaze; 1831022]Anyone have info on the gal in St. Peters. She is appealing to my pocket book, her tits are appealing to my little brain.
[url]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/buy-one-get-one-free-today-29/11734870[/url][/QUOTE]Actually I saw her yesterday. She has enormous Breasts, but so is the rest of her. She is a very big girl. Very pretty face and extremely nice. The $50. 00 HJ is just that. Drop your drawers and sit on the couch. I opted for the $70. 00 Topless massage. 10 minutes of back rubbing and then the flip. Not bad. Probably will repeat because of the convenience and the safe area that she is in.
[QUOTE=Lovethatbob; 1831980]There are plenty of reviews on here of this Jen and the other Jenns and Jennys. Just dig back.
LTB[/QUOTE]Bob, is there a way to search a common name, like Jen, in St. Louis only. I find it searches the entire web site and gives me so many hits I can't find the St Louis girl by that name.
[QUOTE=BillExpress;1832073]Actually I saw her yesterday. She has enormous Breasts, but so is the rest of her. She is a very big girl. Very pretty face and extremely nice. The $50. 00 HJ is just that. Drop your drawers and sit on the couch. I opted for the $70. 00 Topless massage. 10 minutes of back rubbing and then the flip. Not bad. Probably will repeat because of the convenience and the safe area that she is in.[/QUOTE]Is this the St. Peters gal you are talking about?
[url]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/lets-help-each-other-out-29/11723882[/url]
[QUOTE=OldMongrel;1832127]Bob, is there a way to search a common name, like Jen, in St. Louis only. I find it searches the entire web site and gives me so many hits I can't find the St Louis girl by that name.[/QUOTE]Directly under the search box is "Advanced Search". Go in there and select the forum you want
Thanks Bob and BuderBum. Will give her a try soon.
[QUOTE=PilotPete;1832402]Directly under the search box is "Advanced Search". Go in there and select the forum you want[/QUOTE]Thanks Pete!
[QUOTE=OldMongrel; 1832130]Is this the St. Peters gal you are talking about?
[url]http://stlouis.backpage.com/BodyRubs/lets-help-each-other-out-29/11723882[/url][/QUOTE]Yes it is.
[QUOTE=OldMongrel;1832127]Bob, is there a way to search a common name, like Jen, in St. Louis only. I find it searches the entire web site and gives me so many hits I can't find the St Louis girl by that name.[/QUOTE]I was going to send this as a pm, then I decided I should up my post count. LOL.
You have to go into advanced search, select posts, then single content type, type the providers name under key words, scroll down and select st louis under additional options, leave the next selection marked posts and then perform your search using the bottom search button.
[QUOTE=Tomg01; 1834799]I was going to send this as a pm, then I decided I should up my post count. LOL.
You have to go into advanced search, select posts, then single content type, type the providers name under key words, scroll down and select st louis under additional options, leave the next selection marked posts and then perform your search using the bottom search button.[/QUOTE]Thanks Tom and BillExpress