Rants, Raves and Opinions AKA "The Octagon"

Well then if you aren't going to give correct and accurate intel then you shouldn't be here and your words just burned bridges with all the seniors. I personally will never take any if your posts seriously. I'm sure every true monger and senior on here are with me on this. Ee have spent a lot of time and energy giving accurate and informative reviews and paid our dues. Now I am not being confrontational because I'm not allowed to. I'm just saying it like it is. Good luck on ever getting any real intel from an established senior. MF.

[QUOTE=BuyingSmiles;1932895]I could gives a rats ass what you think. I have answered several questions from folks in PM. It seemed to me anyone interested was asking. I offered my take of the situation after it all unfolded. I am going to post this not to save face with you or anyone else here. Just so people can read it & move on.

Based on our conversations Things she said the night before as to why, for her it would be better in the morning. Reason stated for a no go at around midnight were consistent with her reason for her being no show. Now would it have been a nice professional courtesy to simple text me a hey I am sorry this very important thing has happened? Yes. I told her as much. But sometimes when things in peoples life happen, what you Or I think is very secondary.

On the NO show No call I was offered a reason why & I bought it. Mostly because of things mentioned the previous night. Am I fool for believing her? I'll never know I guess. Fool me once... If there is any sort of repeat behavior I will not be so forgiving & will certainly post her name.

On the 2 goons in the van it turns out a guy that lives in very close proximity to her place of operation had pissed some people off really bad. As noted in my original post the guy inquired about who I was & the whereabouts of a certain male. He said nothing of this woman or any woman for that matter. It was an unfortunate coincidence that I happened to be parked where I was when I was. Thats in no way shape or form is her fault. At the time I wasn't sure but I know now she had nothing to do with them. Good enough for me.

Now after I left, I was to say the least a little miffed at what transpired. My first attempt at Mongering an escort & I think I am going to have to shoot some bastard that has mistaken me for an easy target. So, what to do? Well It's Sunday morin & the Colonial Cottage has an AWESOME breakfast buffet. That's it! I am on my way. Full service, 20.00 out the door with tip. The food monger in me is satisfied. Home I go a little less miffed after a full belly & reflection of the mornings events over a cup of BC (Black Coffee).

At home & still thinking about the mornings adventure I decide to post a a review of My first attempt at Mongering outside an AMP. To me it was a bit humorous how the ill fated attempt ended up at an old familiar place for a Sunday mornin. I posted well before I heard from her on Monday.

The were a few reason I posted. To let her now unless she had a very good reason for her no show no call I was going to announce it. To let her and any other provider out there with any ideas of funny business where I am involved would be met with the business end of My trusty travel companion know as the Judge, whose menu includes but not limited to BS (buck shot) SB (slug and Balls) & .45 CLC (.45 colt long cartridge). Thinking maybe anyone living on the shady side of the hobby would think twice knowing I am probably not the only guy with a trusted travel companion. With a cooler mind I realized the two goons very well could have been a case of me being in the wrong place at the wrong time & these guys were looking for some on else. With that being a distinct possibility I reserved the right to name her. Incase she was so inclined to reach out to me with an explanation. After our conversations I am satisfied she made a bad business decision to not contact me to cancel & that the two goons were nothing to do with her.

All the being said & am not telling anyone who she is or what her excuse for her no show is.

I am not concerned with what any monger here thinks of me I will read their info posted & will continue to post any I have. Just like I will, thay can take it or leave. So for anyone with an over rated opinion of what I think you think. Get over your self.

It's my rep with the ladies I am concerned about. To be fair & honest in what I see & experience. My keeping her name to myself after the dust settled is more than fair.[/QUOTE]

My point has been missed. My point simply is this. Give accurate intel without the smoke and mirrors so no other mongers are in the same position. We are here to look out for each other and we are a brotherhood. Those who "don't care what mongers think" shouldn't be here. And to be honest his report would have been great without all the extras. MF.

[QUOTE=SingleDad513;1933213]I can understand a little why he didn't say a name I think, I'm thinking it's to get that provider to do as said and him being new would make it extra hard for him if he blasts a bad report out after no luck. I am in a situation with a provider myself and would like to hear back from others. I've seen this provider 4 times, first 2 times were everything and a reason to keep going back, well the 3rd time she says her pussy hurts to bad and would make it up to me. Ok so I asked later about an overnighter and to make up for the last time I had asked to pop 2x that night and one in the am before she goes, well she said yes and promises then shows up. We hang out for about an hr then asked if she was ready to play and she says, I can't because I'm on my period! Wtf? Why wait and then promise to come back and never does. Then I offered to come to her but no replys, then replys come asking for more money after she ripped me off. I'll put her name in rip off once you all want to know!
be safe[/QUOTE]

One last thing then I will say nothing else about this. Regardless of the pricks in the van or your breakfast choices, you wasted time and money and energy to be stood up by this provider. I'm not trying to be a dick, but you must understand that none of us like this when it happens to us or anyone else. That's the reason I wanted you to share a name cause even a newbie shouldn't experience being stood up cause we have all been there and know how it is. So knowing we got off on the wrong foot, hopefully you will understand my point now. Just looking out for fellow mongers is all..you included. MF.

[QUOTE=BuyingSmiles;1932895]I could gives a rats ass what you think. I have answered several questions from folks in PM. It seemed to me anyone interested was asking. I offered my take of the situation after it all unfolded. I am going to post this not to save face with you or anyone else here. Just so people can read it & move on.

Based on our conversations Things she said the night before as to why, for her it would be better in the morning. Reason stated for a no go at around midnight were consistent with her reason for her being no show. Now would it have been a nice professional courtesy to simple text me a hey I am sorry this very important thing has happened? Yes. I told her as much. But sometimes when things in peoples life happen, what you Or I think is very secondary.

On the NO show No call I was offered a reason why & I bought it. Mostly because of things mentioned the previous night. Am I fool for believing her? I'll never know I guess. Fool me once... If there is any sort of repeat behavior I will not be so forgiving & will certainly post her name.

On the 2 goons in the van it turns out a guy that lives in very close proximity to her place of operation had pissed some people off really bad. As noted in my original post the guy inquired about who I was & the whereabouts of a certain male. He said nothing of this woman or any woman for that matter. It was an unfortunate coincidence that I happened to be parked where I was when I was. Thats in no way shape or form is her fault. At the time I wasn't sure but I know now she had nothing to do with them. Good enough for me.

Now after I left, I was to say the least a little miffed at what transpired. My first attempt at Mongering an escort & I think I am going to have to shoot some bastard that has mistaken me for an easy target. So, what to do? Well It's Sunday morin & the Colonial Cottage has an AWESOME breakfast buffet. That's it! I am on my way. Full service, 20.00 out the door with tip. The food monger in me is satisfied. Home I go a little less miffed after a full belly & reflection of the mornings events over a cup of BC (Black Coffee).

At home & still thinking about the mornings adventure I decide to post a a review of My first attempt at Mongering outside an AMP. To me it was a bit humorous how the ill fated attempt ended up at an old familiar place for a Sunday mornin. I posted well before I heard from her on Monday.

The were a few reason I posted. To let her now unless she had a very good reason for her no show no call I was going to announce it. To let her and any other provider out there with any ideas of funny business where I am involved would be met with the business end of My trusty travel companion know as the Judge, whose menu includes but not limited to BS (buck shot) SB (slug and Balls) & .45 CLC (.45 colt long cartridge). Thinking maybe anyone living on the shady side of the hobby would think twice knowing I am probably not the only guy with a trusted travel companion. With a cooler mind I realized the two goons very well could have been a case of me being in the wrong place at the wrong time & these guys were looking for some on else. With that being a distinct possibility I reserved the right to name her. Incase she was so inclined to reach out to me with an explanation. After our conversations I am satisfied she made a bad business decision to not contact me to cancel & that the two goons were nothing to do with her.

All the being said & am not telling anyone who she is or what her excuse for her no show is.

I am not concerned with what any monger here thinks of me I will read their info posted & will continue to post any I have. Just like I will, thay can take it or leave. So for anyone with an over rated opinion of what I think you think. Get over your self.

It's my rep with the ladies I am concerned about. To be fair & honest in what I see & experience. My keeping her name to myself after the dust settled is more than fair.[/QUOTE]

It's not a fucking review if you don't provide a name. All you did was basically threaten a provider with a bad review pending a "valid" excuse. Next time, threaten her via PM and not on the public forum. Bad mouth MF all you want but you're losing more than you will gain. I have gotten more good intel from MF than from anybody else on here. Just remember what you consider "fair" when you start asking for info from others.

If you want to review a provider then review her and provide her name.

-BigBird69.

[QUOTE=BuyingSmiles;1932895]I could gives a rats ass what you think. I have answered several questions from folks in PM. It seemed to me anyone interested was asking. I offered my take of the situation after it all unfolded. I am going to post this not to save face with you or anyone else here. Just so people can read it & move on.

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It's my rep with the ladies I am concerned about. To be fair & honest in what I see & experience. My keeping her name to myself after the dust settled is more than fair.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BigBird69;1933966]It's not a fucking review if you don't provide a name. All you did was basically threaten a provider with a bad review pending a "valid" excuse. Next time, threaten her via PM and not on the public forum. Bad mouth MF all you want but you're losing more than you will gain. I have gotten more good intel from MF than from anybody else on here. Just remember what you consider "fair" when you start asking for info from others.

If you want to review a provider then review her and provide her name.

-BigBird69.[/QUOTE]Where is exactly did I bad mouth anyone? Several of you have came at me with the use of variouse forms of the word fuck. What makes you think that is going to go over well with anyone. In a bar or personal setting I have seen people * slapped for such attitude. If I disrespected anyone first I would totally understand it. I would not curse you when talking to or approaching you. If I did I sure wouldn't be surprised if you told me to go kick rocks and you cared less what I thought. There were several people that asked me rather politely in Pm about this. It's amazing none of them cursed or told me how worthless I am. Had any of these " seniors" approached me in the same manner (respectfully) I would have replied in kind.

Becouse it served you no good doesn't mean it didn't serve me or others well by letting possible screw ball providers that might think about setting someone up in the future know I and most likely other will be well prepaid for any jack wagon that thinks they are going to get one over on somebody with out dealing with a nice surprise. I promise any SP that's has bad intentions (I have read plent of stories) that reads my post will know I don't travel alone & will probably take a pass on trying to rob or set me up.

If you or anyone else wants to get you panties In a wad and come at me cursing because I didn't say yes sir I am sorry sir to anyone who took exception to my post. You sir any anyone for that matter can go kick rocks!

The great intel as of late has flowed just the same from bigbird LakersFan29 and others and it's greatly appreciated. Thanks for the backup brother. MF

[QUOTE=BigBird69;1933966]It's not a fucking review if you don't provide a name. All you did was basically threaten a provider with a bad review pending a "valid" excuse. Next time, threaten her via PM and not on the public forum. Bad mouth MF all you want but you're losing more than you will gain. I have gotten more good intel from MF than from anybody else on here. Just remember what you consider "fair" when you start asking for info from others.

If you want to review a provider then review her and provide her name.

-BigBird69.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=BuyingSmiles;1932895]

All the being said & am not telling anyone who she is or what her excuse for her no show is.

I am not concerned with what any monger here thinks of me I will read their info posted & will continue to post any I have. Just like I will, thay can take it or leave. So for anyone with an over rated opinion of what I think you think. Get over your self.

It's my rep with the ladies I am concerned about. To be fair & honest in what I see & experience. My keeping her name to myself after the dust settled is more than fair.[/QUOTE]And I know I am a provider and not the provider in question, with all do respect babe, if you just wanted to let her know, that should have been a text or call or pm between you and the provider. Not to care what your mongers think babe is a big mistake. You will need your fello mongers here on the board for good and bad insight on providers here. If you can't or won't help them then there is no help in return which would make it pointless for you to be a member. All I am saying sweetie is the truth is always best even if it hurts a provider or not. Most or all would have. Made there own opinion whether to see her or not but this is not a section to say "well I am just going to let you be known if you don't call me and straighten this out". I am not down grating you or your reviews once so ever and I don't know you. Just saying babe some advice you will need your fello mongers here. Most are great gentlemen and give an honest review which this board is for. Exchange of info. Stay safe.

Please allow me to get something off of my chest. I will not name this provider, although she knows who she is. This is not said with anger, but you need to read this, and re-read it if necessary, because I suspect I am not alone in this happening, or feeling this way.

We are not dating. We are not even "friends with benefits." This is a business arrangement. I pay for a service that you are providing, just like I would for a plumber, a doctor, a mechanic or any number of other occupations. I can be friends with those people, too, and even enjoy their company. But the main attraction from them is the level of service they provide for me, and if I decide to take my car to a different mechanic, I don't expect the first one to watch my every move and call me on it when they find out. Nor do I expect them to call my friendship into question if I hire a different plumber for a certain job. That's business, and as the customer, it is my prerogative on what store I shop at.

If you'd still like to be friends, I am not the one who has closed that door. Otherwise, you have mistaken a business arrangement that has the added benefit of a friendship for something completely different and outside of the boundaries of what we do here. It's your call.

I trust we won't have to have this conversation again.

[QUOTE=ClassASweetie;1934057]And I know I am a provider and not the provider in question, with all do respect babe, if you just wanted to let her know, that should have been a text or call or pm between you and the provider. Not to care what your mongers think babe is a big mistake. You will need your fello mongers here on the board for good and bad insight on providers here. If you can't or won't help them then there is no help in return which would make it pointless for you to be a member. All I am saying sweetie is the truth is always best even if it hurts a provider or not. Most or all would have. Made there own opinion whether to see her or not but this is not a section to say "well I am just going to let you be known if you don't call me and straighten this out". I am not down grating you or your reviews once so ever and I don't know you. Just saying babe some advice you will need your fello mongers here. Most are great gentlemen and give an honest review which this board is for. Exchange of info. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]With all due respect back to you dear. Just letting her know was but one reason for my post as you should have read. Seems people read something & take one point from what I say if they even take anything from it. Some have their point etched I'm their head and it doesn't matter what I say. I also wrote the post to let other providers who may be not on the up and up that I carry a gun with me and I will not hesitate to plast a flippin whole in some jack wagon that wants to try to rob me. I figured that they might also assume that other guys in the hobby would probably be packing heat as well. All these guys telling me that my post was useless, maybe to them it was and that is fine. To ME, it was not useless if any shady lady & her pimps get the hint that WE (Then men here) and in particular me, are not to be fucked with in such a way. As I said I posted before I had any contact with her. I thought It may well be a coincidence but I did not know. That being the case I told the story so it was a known fact that I have a gun & wil use the damn thing if you want to set me up or rob me. A third reason Was to make fun of my first experience as a monger. How dare I waste server space. Really I see all kinds of post where people are smoking & joking on ALL of these threads. But I am not a "senior" so I am wasting space with useless Intel. What ever.

Like I said I will continue to read peoples information they post, I will do my research & make decisions along the way. People will make post & I will take it or leave. When I make a post people can do the exact same.

If anyone wants to take the position of " I personally will never take any if your posts seriously" I could care less. I am sure there are many people here that don't listen to other peoples opinions, Thats OK. If people want to ignore me all together, seems I saw a tool for that.

When people start a comment directed at me & the word Fuck or some variation is in the first five words, yeah I am probably not going to give a shit much about their opinion. So yeah I don't "Need" any help from any disrespectful "Senior". I am not saying they don't know a lot about what is going on. Unless they can block me from seeing what they post publicly I may or may not take credible info from things they post. Even if I think they are off their rocker I will not say a damn thing to them. Certainly not in a disrespectful manner if I do. I definatly won't be doing anything because THEY say I should. Just because they think something was useless to them doesn't me it was useless for me or anyone else.

Had I thought for a minute that there was an ongoing threat to any man here I would have blasted a WARNING! And another thing, had any of these guys approached me in pm & expressed their deep concerns I may have been persuaded to tell them. Several guys asked me in private if I minded telling who it was. Not one of them came back with a riot act (when I declined & told them why I declined) like these "seniors" did publicly. Some of the guys here seem to be on a power trip. They have put their time in I get it. They demand respect. Well just like stripes are earned so is respect. Aproach me with no respect & none will be given in return.

This is why I think this lady is a doll. She says it like it is. She's gets it, and any provider who gets it is a provider we should all be seeing. MF

[QUOTE=ClassASweetie;1934057]And I know I am a provider and not the provider in question, with all do respect babe, if you just wanted to let her know, that should have been a text or call or pm between you and the provider. Not to care what your mongers think babe is a big mistake. You will need your fello mongers here on the board for good and bad insight on providers here. If you can't or won't help them then there is no help in return which would make it pointless for you to be a member. All I am saying sweetie is the truth is always best even if it hurts a provider or not. Most or all would have. Made there own opinion whether to see her or not but this is not a section to say "well I am just going to let you be known if you don't call me and straighten this out". I am not down grating you or your reviews once so ever and I don't know you. Just saying babe some advice you will need your fello mongers here. Most are great gentlemen and give an honest review which this board is for. Exchange of info. Stay safe.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=ClassASweetie;1934057]And I know I am a provider and not the provider in question, with all do respect babe, if you just wanted to let her know, that should have been a text or call or pm between you and the provider. Not to care what your mongers think babe is a big mistake. You will need your fello mongers here on the board for good and bad insight on providers here. If you can't or won't help them then there is no help in return which would make it pointless for you to be a member. All I am saying sweetie is the truth is always best even if it hurts a provider or not. Most or all would have. Made there own opinion whether to see her or not but this is not a section to say "well I am just going to let you be known if you don't call me and straighten this out". I am not down grating you or your reviews once so ever and I don't know you. Just saying babe some advice you will need your fello mongers here. Most are great gentlemen and give an honest review which this board is for. Exchange of info. Stay safe.[/QUOTE]That's why your a class A sweetie! If mongers can't be honest in their reviews or hold back names what's the point of this board?

We all could write reviews and leave out important info, but that would be pointless, my reviews are 100% honest and sometimes harsh.

I am a senior member that has paid his dues! And Whodeyman is back!

Wdm.

Men need to trust each other for good intell just as women do. We need to support one another to keep the boards safe. Most important, we need to clean out the time wasters, the druggies, the sleepers, those who don't keep appointments without a good reason and without giving forewarnings. Most of all we men need to quit seeing ladies with drug habits, failure to follow up, and those who turn on men and territorial in their treatment of other ladies and men. It is ludicrous when any client reads another clients review who states the lady he saw had tracks over her body, appeared out of it or under the influence, mechanical and not really into it, or gives a 15 minute appointment but charges for and hour, but these same men will go back to see her again because she was hot and gave a good blow job and was okay in bed. REALLY? Okay for a $ plus and hour When I first got into this one of the most respected men on the boards had a saying that holds true even today. Take out the trash and what you have left is the good that we all seek out and want to see. Post reviews and be honest but not compromisingly honest. We all know there are some things ladies will do that they don't want known so DISCRETION is the key. PM is also a good way to distribute information but get rid of the druggies, cash and dashers, ladies with thugs and pimps who come out no where to put on the pressure. Just my 02 cents worth.