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Made a Sunday night excursion to meet a friend at BBF. Had the usual good time. I nice visit to the lap couches with Kitten. And met a new to me dancer, Omni, for a very good visit back to couches. The girl seems to know what guys like.
She said she had been at BBF since last April and danced at Rio also.
The visit made me curious for more info on Omni. PM if that is more appropriate.
I wouldn't call myself a regular at PT's, but I go every once in a while. I agree, I don't find that $450 to be a very good value for the VIP, especially if there is a tip required on top of that. However, I do take advantage of the $275 rate for a half hour in the VIP. Even though I am not a frequent regular, I am regular enough that I have a girl who takes care of me back there with no additional tip required. The way this girl works, half hour is plenty to have a good time!
As has been stated, the waitstaff leaves you alone and you have pretty much much complete privacy. There are no cameras (I am pretty sure of this) and even if there were, the lights can be turned completely down, pretty much leaving you in the dark.
I know there are options that can be had at a lower rate, in the comfort of a nice, completely private incall, or a nice hotel outcall, but there is some appeal and value to me in being able to walk into a club, unannounced, and have a slightly tipsy dancer come off stage, take you by the hand, walk you past the other club patrons, pull that curtain, spend some quality time in the back, then sending that dancer back out onto the floor with only the two of you really knowing what just happened.
The spontaneity of the above described scenario offers something to me that is not there when you have to schedule, get screened, etc. Don't get me wrong, I partake of both. And I am glad that the SC option is one that is available.
Now, it took some time to get to that point at PT's. I started with this particular dancer by just doing some $25 private dances. She showed that she was willing to push the envelope, even offering a similar experience back in the private dance area to what can be had in the VIP. But, there is much more risk, as the doorman likes to look around and you have other dancers and customers walking past depending on which booth you are in. Also, this club is expensive, as has been previously stated, so at $25 a dance (plus the ridiculous $5 bracelet) , you can spend money quickly. Plus, my dancer did ask for a tip on top of the dance price.
It was actually my dancer that suggested we spend time in the VIP. After learning the pricing structure, I found that the half hour rate wasn't that much more than what I was spending in the private dance area, which was the dance fee plus tip. I asked her if the $275 for the half hour rate would cover everything and she agreed that what she got out of that would be OK for her, no extra tip needed.
It is my perception, although not my personal experience, that there are quite a few girls that provide a nice experience in the VIP. I can't speak as to how much extra tip each requires. Because I am not a frequent regular, my dancer pretty much expects me to see her when I come in, and I don't really have a problem with that. So, I don't get a chance to sample much of the other talent. It is a little too bad, because as has been noted, there are plenty of hot girls dancing at this club. But, now that I have found my little goldmine, at this point, I don't necessarily want to invest the time and money to pursue any of the other options. The nice thing is that those options will always be there in the future.
Wow, this post ended up long. We'll just call it my 5 cents on the subject.
Bleucheese:
I found your post interesting, but it also seemed to me that you are "beating around the Bush" (pun intended).
Exactly what did your favorite PT's dancer do in the VIP room?
When I went to PT's about a month ago it seemed that they had raised their prices since the last time I was there (October 2010 or so). At that time PT's was also giving away free passes in the NUVO but they haven't done that for quite awhile.
By the way, PT's is now owned by the same company that has Hustler all-nude strip clubs in other states. I went to one in Illinois in October 2009. I didn't go in the VIP room, which started at $400 for 30 minutes. I did get a $20 lap dance from a hot brunette I had just seen writihing totally nude on the stage. And yes, I had to buy the $5 wristband (I'm guessing the wristband is for both security and to make you think "well I already paid for the wristband, I might as well get another lap dance"). The lap dance was topless; you have to go into the VIP room to get a totally nude dance. I asked this dancer what happens in the VIP room, and she claimed that some of the other girls do BJ's & FS there, but not her. She almost agreed to do takeout for me (or so I thought) but it didn't happen. The feature dancer that night was XXX actress Julia Ann, who was very nice and posed for some totally nude Polaroids for me.
I do not live in Indianapolis, but travel there for business several times a year. Foxy has always been very friendly to me in the VIP area, so when I was coming to town I would text her ahead of time to make sure she was working. She even came in on days she was not otherwise supposed to work to spend time with me. Unfortunately, I have not been able to reach her for the last several weeks. Can anyone tell me if she still works at HH. Thanks!
So I stopped in today to spend a little time with a couple of gals that are usually on the Sunday afternoon shift. Neither were there, so I waited alittle while to see what might develop. I tipped Sherry while she was on stage and after she spent a short time with a fellow in the $20 room, she came by and asked about a dollar dance. I suggested we head back to the $10 dance area, I had spent some time with her there before, and she made a sour face and said it was $12. I said I thought it was $10 bucks during the day and she said no. So on the way back she said,"you know I don't let guys touch me back there now", and recognizing that this was not going to go well, I just suggested we forget it. She just walked off! I guess she had made enough cash today already. So I am asking, has this all changed or was she just being pissy, or what? She had a good attitude with me before, but today. Personally, I go for the contact in the $10 area, so if this is a new policy, I doubt I will be back. Anyone have any thoughts?
Heritage
[QUOTE=Heritage; 1164036]So I stopped in today to spend a little time with a couple of gals that are usually on the Sunday afternoon shift. Neither were there, so I waited alittle while to see what might develop. I tipped Sherry while she was on stage and after she spent a short time with a fellow in the $20 room, she came by and asked about a dollar dance. I suggested we head back to the $10 dance area, I had spent some time with her there before, and she made a sour face and said it was $12. I said I thought it was $10 bucks during the day and she said no. So on the way back she said,"you know I don't let guys touch me back there now", and recognizing that this was not going to go well, I just suggested we forget it. She just walked off! I guess she had made enough cash today already. So I am asking, has this all changed or was she just being pissy, or what? She had a good attitude with me before, but today. Personally, I go for the contact in the $10 area, so if this is a new policy, I doubt I will be back. Anyone have any thoughts?
Heritage[/QUOTE]I like women and I'm sure you do too, but you have to admit a lot of females have big egos and think they are worth more than they actually are. You probably just ran into one that fell into that category. She was annoyed that you didn't think she was worth the $20 lap dance. I've tried the $20 lap dances there and they aren't any better than the $10 ones. Next time, just pick another girl. If all the guys do that, then she'll eventually notice it and adjust to the reality that she's not any more special than anyone else. Ten dollars for five minutes work comes out to a hundred and twenty dollars an hour and that's plenty of money. It's a lot more than most people make.
[QUOTE=Heritage; 1164036]So I stopped in today to spend a little time with a couple of gals that are usually on the Sunday afternoon shift. Neither were there, so I waited alittle while to see what might develop. I tipped Sherry while she was on stage and after she spent a short time with a fellow in the $20 room, she came by and asked about a dollar dance. I suggested we head back to the $10 dance area, I had spent some time with her there before, and she made a sour face and said it was $12. I said I thought it was $10 bucks during the day and she said no. So on the way back she said,"you know I don't let guys touch me back there now", and recognizing that this was not going to go well, I just suggested we forget it. She just walked off! I guess she had made enough cash today already. So I am asking, has this all changed or was she just being pissy, or what? She had a good attitude with me before, but today. Personally, I go for the contact in the $10 area, so if this is a new policy, I doubt I will be back. Anyone have any thoughts?
Heritage[/QUOTE]I stopped by BBF on Monday afternoon and did encounter the new $12 rate replacing the $10. The girl collects the extra $2 rather than paying a guy on the way out of the couch area like at night. I hope she gets to keep it but probably not. I didn't find any change in the touching policy. I had couch dances with two girls I hadn't encountered before. My experiences with Heather and Violet were both very good though not Lap Dance Hall of Fame quality. My hands were free to explore all exposed areas but resisted upon trying to go beyond the g-string. I find that to be typical in my SC experience.
[QUOTE=Scup1958;1165319]I stopped by BBF on Monday afternoon and did encounter the new $12 rate replacing the $10. The girl collects the extra $2 rather than paying a guy on the way out of the couch area like at night. I hope she gets to keep it but probably not. I didn't find any change in the touching policy. I had couch dances with two girls I hadn't encountered before. My experiences with Heather and Violet were both very good though not Lap Dance Hall of Fame quality. My hands were free to explore all exposed areas but resisted upon trying to go beyond the g-string. I find that to be typical in my SC experience.[/QUOTE]Please clarify. Dances are now $12 dollars all the time and just not the "prime" time after 7pm?
[QUOTE=Tim P14;1165381]Please clarify. Dances are now $12 dollars all the time and just not the "prime" time after 7pm?[/QUOTE]My dances were between 2 and 4 PM. I haven't been there on the night shift lately.
[QUOTE=Tim P14;1165381]Please clarify. Dances are now $12 dollars all the time and just not the "prime" time after 7pm?[/QUOTE]There is a sign posted at the entrance to the couch area "$10. 00 Per Dance" "$2. 00 Per Dance House Fee". The girls get to keep the $10 and pay $2 to the house mom, and still have to tip out the DJ and wait staff.
BC, I agree with some of the allure of the strip club action. That's why I hang out at so many. But I still think the local costs are too high for the mileage. Last week in Detroit I went to a club by the airport and had a great time for $200. The hot young brunette sat beside me and we had a couple drinks, then SHE starts the negotiations. Dances are $25 each (a little steep I thought) , then she tells me for $50 tip and pay for 6 songs ($150) she'll give me a BJ. I tried talking her down by stating I had FS the night before in my hotel room for $200, but she stood her ground saying that was the bottom end, and if I wasn't interested, she'd move on and thanks for the drinks. Well that pretty much turned me on, and she was hot, so upstairs we went for the $200 BBBJ, with lots of DFK and DATY, etc. For approximately 20 minutes. Great time, and when the last song was done, she put on her top and headed out with a handful of my deposit (no CIM allowed.)
[QUOTE=Bleucheese; 1161228]I wouldn't call myself a regular at PT's, but I go every once in a while. I agree, I don't find that $450 to be a very good value for the VIP, especially if there is a tip required on top of that. However, I do take advantage of the $275 rate for a half hour in the VIP. Even though I am not a frequent regular, I am regular enough that I have a girl who takes care of me back there with no additional tip required. The way this girl works, half hour is plenty to have a good time!
As has been stated, the waitstaff leaves you alone and you have pretty much much complete privacy. There are no cameras (I am pretty sure of this) and even if there were, the lights can be turned completely down, pretty much leaving you in the dark.
I know there are options that can be had at a lower rate, in the comfort of a nice, completely private incall, or a nice hotel outcall, but there is some appeal and value to me in being able to walk into a club, unannounced, and have a slightly tipsy dancer come off stage, take you by the hand, walk you past the other club patrons, pull that curtain, spend some quality time in the back, then sending that dancer back out onto the floor with only the two of you really knowing what just happened.
The spontaneity of the above described scenario offers something to me that is not there when you have to schedule, get screened, etc. Don't get me wrong, I partake of both. And I am glad that the SC option is one that is available.
Now, it took some time to get to that point at PT's. I started with this particular dancer by just doing some $25 private dances. She showed that she was willing to push the envelope, even offering a similar experience back in the private dance area to what can be had in the VIP. But, there is much more risk, as the doorman likes to look around and you have other dancers and customers walking past depending on which booth you are in. Also, this club is expensive, as has been previously stated, so at $25 a dance (plus the ridiculous $5 bracelet) , you can spend money quickly. Plus, my dancer did ask for a tip on top of the dance price.
It was actually my dancer that suggested we spend time in the VIP. After learning the pricing structure, I found that the half hour rate wasn't that much more than what I was spending in the private dance area, which was the dance fee plus tip. I asked her if the $275 for the half hour rate would cover everything and she agreed that what she got out of that would be OK for her, no extra tip needed.
It is my perception, although not my personal experience, that there are quite a few girls that provide a nice experience in the VIP. I can't speak as to how much extra tip each requires. Because I am not a frequent regular, my dancer pretty much expects me to see her when I come in, and I don't really have a problem with that. So, I don't get a chance to sample much of the other talent. It is a little too bad, because as has been noted, there are plenty of hot girls dancing at this club. But, now that I have found my little goldmine, at this point, I don't necessarily want to invest the time and money to pursue any of the other options. The nice thing is that those options will always be there in the future.
Wow, this post ended up long. We'll just call it my 5 cents on the subject.[/QUOTE]
Was headed out of town last weekend and stopped in at the Touch of Class. For those who are familiar, this was a happening club in the 90s, with touring features and some crazy action. Well, these days it ain't what it once was, and hasn't been for quite a while. But, since there aren't many other options between Indy and Peoria, I decided to stop in and give it a go.
I was greeted on Friday evening by four ladies. 3 of whom scored a 2 or less on my SC scale. The fourth was a tiny little spinner with a great ass who looked like she had been around but still had some life in her. I settled in for a few cold ones and went to work.
Eventually "Miranda" stopped by and read me my rights; I agreed to her terms and we headed to a more private location. Recently the VIP area at ToC has been watched closely by a bouncer or other employee, but this night no one seemed interested in us. Full contact was allowed, both directions. Plenty of play and roaming. After 5 songs and $100 I left a deposit in her hand. When I inquired about further services, I was promised "next time" I would receive an oral reading, but never on the first visit. If only she knew I've been visiting that club for 20 years.
Worth noting: she likes to bite. Hard. Also, she spent the first 30 minutes at my table telling me about her fiancee and how she had to bail him out of jail and yada yada, and how she was DTD (down to dance) but wasn't DTF (down to f*ck) because of her SO. I guess a BJ doesn't count.
Miranda works Tues-Sat. The club opens about 6pm and closes at 12 weekdays and 2am weekends.
[QUOTE=HandfulOfWheel;1166894]BC, I agree with some of the allure of the strip club action. That's why I hang out at so many. But I still think the local costs are too high for the mileage. Last week in Detroit I went to a club by the airport and had a great time for $200. The hot young brunette sat beside me and we had a couple drinks, then SHE starts the negotiations. Dances are $25 each (a little steep I thought) , then she tells me for $50 tip and pay for 6 songs ($150) she'll give me a BJ. I tried talking her down by stating I had FS the night before in my hotel room for $200, but she stood her ground saying that was the bottom end, and if I wasn't interested, she'd move on and thanks for the drinks. Well that pretty much turned me on, and she was hot, so upstairs we went for the $200 BBBJ, with lots of DFK and DATY, etc. For approximately 20 minutes. Great time, and when the last song was done, she put on her top and headed out with a handful of my deposit (no CIM allowed.)[/QUOTE]Was that The Landing Strip? I had a similar experience there when I visited a couple years ago. Although I much prefer the French Canadians across the bridge in Windsor
This post totally turned me on. Wish I were with you on this one! I love sexy smart women who are not afraid to know her worth, play their cards and then deliver ahhhhhh, very sweet!
Kisses, xxx.
Cate
[QUOTE=HandfulOfWheel;1166894]BC, I agree with some of the allure of the strip club action. That's why I hang out at so many. But I still think the local costs are too high for the mileage. Last week in Detroit I went to a club by the airport and had a great time for $200. The hot young brunette sat beside me and we had a couple drinks, then SHE starts the negotiations. Dances are $25 each (a little steep I thought) , then she tells me for $50 tip and pay for 6 songs ($150) she'll give me a BJ. I tried talking her down by stating I had FS the night before in my hotel room for $200, but she stood her ground saying that was the bottom end, and if I wasn't interested, she'd move on and thanks for the drinks. Well that pretty much turned me on, and she was hot, so upstairs we went for the $200 BBBJ, with lots of DFK and DATY, etc. For approximately 20 minutes. Great time, and when the last song was done, she put on her top and headed out with a handful of my deposit (no CIM allowed.)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=West Central; 1167227]Was headed out of town last weekend and stopped in at the Touch of Class. For those who are familiar, this was a happening club in the 90s, with touring features and some crazy action. Well, these days it ain't what it once was, and hasn't been for quite a while. But, since there aren't many other options between Indy and Peoria, I decided to stop in and give it a go.
I was greeted on Friday evening by four ladies. 3 of whom scored a 2 or less on my SC scale. The fourth was a tiny little spinner with a great ass who looked like she had been around but still had some life in her. I settled in for a few cold ones and went to work.
Eventually "Miranda" stopped by and read me my rights; I agreed to her terms and we headed to a more private location. Recently the VIP area at ToC has been watched closely by a bouncer or other employee, but this night no one seemed interested in us. Full contact was allowed, both directions. Plenty of play and roaming. After 5 songs and $100 I left a deposit in her hand. When I inquired about further services, I was promised "next time" I would receive an oral reading, but never on the first visit. If only she knew I've been visiting that club for 20 years.
Worth noting: she likes to bite. Hard. Also, she spent the first 30 minutes at my table telling me about her fiancee and how she had to bail him out of jail and yada yada, and how she was DTD (down to dance) but wasn't DTF (down to f*ck) because of her SO. I guess a BJ doesn't count.
Miranda works Tues-Sat. The club opens about 6pm and closes at 12 weekdays and 2am weekends. [/QUOTE]Thanks for info. First good report I've seen on this place.
And biters can be fun, just not sure about the hard part.