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		[QUOTE=KarnEvil9;3951551]I have seen Carmen and received L1. It took some convincing and she was very mechanical. She does do a nice job on the massage. Part theraputic and part sensual. Minimal roaming OTC was allowed. I was in a room that had some kind of fountain in it. There was also a very small bar. Maybe it was a poker room (no pun intended!) or something from back in the day.
Ever since Cindy from King's Spa was busted, I have not partaken with anyone else from that area except Carmen. The last time I saw Cindy, she started complaining about her ex and started yelling and getting somewhat irate. LOL!! She was definitely a little out there, but she was fun.[/QUOTE]Have you heard of any place that Cindy is working now?
	 
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		[QUOTE=Starks;3952043]Have you heard of any place that Cindy is working now?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately, I don't know if she resurfaced anywhere.
	 
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		[QUOTE=BrewCrew1133;3951656]Long time lurker, figured it was time to actually join in the discussion.
Visited Exercise on Tuesday afternoon for a nice hour long massage. There was a short 10 minute wait, so I joined MamaSan in the TV room and caught up on the news. She was very pleasant and actually pretty fun to chat with. "Coco" was soon ready, as was I. She led me to the room and I opted for the hour. That set me back 8. A nice table shower with some nice roaming followed by a sauna to warm me up. She took me back to the room and gave a really nice massage. Medium firmness followed by some really nice feather touching in all the right places. On the turn she noticed that I might be interested in some more fun. .
I put the donation (1.5) on the table while she left the room. She made her way back and then the fun part began. All of the typically bases were covered and I left more than happy.
Coco was a petite lady with some of the most amazing set of lungs I've seen in quite some time. I would highly recommend paying them a visit.[/QUOTE]I don't know what prices were prior to 2017, so I just accept the current state. I've learned 1. 2 if you do 30 minute and 1. 4 if you do hour. I really don't haggle down but I don't pay more than 1. 4 unless I want to. More often than not, I get full hour and I only had to prepay twice (due to chick getting scammed by one of you bums). The house fee could be lower I guess.
	 
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		[QUOTE=Walker333;3950418]Visited Debbie on Petersen near Pulaski, a very discreet location, camouflaged, like a doctor's office at the building. Good massage, also good communication skills. She is a nice and kind woman. On the other hand, she is almost a grandma. It is not a mp, it's just one room very brightly lit. There are no amenities, no shower, sink, or bathroom in the room. Because there is no water in her office, she uses almost no oil and no hot towel. There is almost nothing to wipe out. Top comes off, but the view isn't attractive at all. 65/60. P.S. She the owner or manager of the similar place on Elston.[/QUOTE]I agree but Debbie does give a phenomenal and real massage with a great HE. I highly recommend.
	 
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		[QUOTE=ChgoGuySouth;3952418]I agree but Debbie does give a phenomenal and real massage with a great HE. I highly recommend.[/QUOTE]Debbie is the one who answers the phone when you call to make an appointment on Elston.
Nice lady, close to 60 I am guessing. More available if you are into that age group.
	 
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		[QUOTE=Walker333;3950418]Visited Debbie on Petersen near Pulaski, a very discreet location, camouflaged, like a doctor's office at the building. Good massage, also good communication skills. She is a nice and kind woman. On the other hand, she is almost a grandma. It is not a mp, it's just one room very brightly lit. There are no amenities, no shower, sink, or bathroom in the room. Because there is no water in her office, she uses almost no oil and no hot towel. There is almost nothing to wipe out. Top comes off, but the view isn't attractive at all. 65/60. P.S. She the owner or manager of the similar place on Elston.[/QUOTE]I am looking for a massage in my age group. I looked thru some sites but didn't come up with Debbie. Would you mind sharing a link to Debbie with a regular member? Thank you.
	 
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		[QUOTE=KarnEvil9;3951551]I have seen Carmen and received L1. It took some convincing and she was very mechanical. She does do a nice job on the massage. Part theraputic and part sensual. Minimal roaming OTC was allowed. I was in a room that had some kind of fountain in it. There was also a very small bar. Maybe it was a poker room (no pun intended!) or something from back in the day.
Ever since Cindy from King's Spa was busted, I have not partaken with anyone else from that area except Carmen. The last time I saw Cindy, she started complaining about her ex and started yelling and getting somewhat irate. LOL!! She was definitely a little out there, but she was fun.[/QUOTE]No such luck for me! Heck I even showered and trimmed the junk, LOL. I decided to give Carmen another go after first attempting to visit J&T, at the recommendation of another hobby, however as I drove up, saw uncle LEO parked in the lot next for, likely just having lunch, but I went with my spidey sense and aired on the side of caution. So anywho, back to Carmen, she is such a f**kin' MILF, she teases like crazy, but no fun to be had. Tried to roam a bit and she kept on squirming and that's that I was only trying to rub and hold her legs gently. Needless to say I didn't want to push it. Long story short, went home with all except one muscle completely relaxed. Next stop J&T!
	 
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		[QUOTE=CarpeDium;3951950]This place has really changed to (GPS) Golden Pussy Syndrome. There is no set price for FS. 120,140, 150 on top of the 80 house fee. The girl charges what she wants and it's different from day to day.
No longer on my to do list.[/QUOTE]If some of the guys around here would just take it easy and use the head on their shoulders prices would come down to a reasonable level. Let them go hungry for a bit.
	 
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		Words of wisdom. We should be controlling this, not them.
[QUOTE=TonyDe;3952847]If some of the guys around here would just take it easy and use the head on their shoulders prices would come down to a reasonable level. Let them go hungry for a bit.[/QUOTE]
	 
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		[QUOTE=KarnEvil9;3952096]Unfortunately, I don't know if she resurfaced anywhere.[/QUOTE]Thats too bad. Cindy was something else. Amazing ass and wonderful tits. She seems a bit loopy and woudl talk and talk about weird stuff like landlord issues or what not, but I fucked the shit out of her face on the very first visit and she drank everything I filled her throat with. It was nuts. At the end she said. "you should come back every day and fuck me" and I did for a while. Just unreal.
	 
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		[QUOTE=TonyDe;3952847]If some of the guys around here would just take it easy and use the head on their shoulders prices would come down to a reasonable level. Let them go hungry for a bit.[/QUOTE]I have one ATF in Plainfield who is legit. Last week I went and tipped $. 0 because she treated me well over the last year. English is non existent, but I practice Chinese with her. Every time I leave there she gives me a small gift to take with me. I usually give her. 60 or so, but I came across some extra cash, and padded the tip. With her, I am not looking for anything more than legit. With the places that offer extras, I never do L3, and only had L2 once. And their standard tips reflect that.
	 
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		[QUOTE=Starks;3952043]Have you heard of any place that Cindy is working now?[/QUOTE]Somewhere in Belvidere.
	 
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		[QUOTE=Wadman;3953559]Somewhere in Belvidere.[/QUOTE]If anyone ever has location details let me know please.
	 
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		In my fantasy I was given Pinky again in recent visit. Past experience has been less than stellar and a few times I told MMS "no Pinky".
So when she opened the door I was not thrilled and expected an expensive HJ.
She's still super hot. Great body. Great face. All natural.
Table shower was great as always.
Massage was ok.
On the flip she went full GFE with no bargaining. I don't LFK or DFK yet that seemed on the table. I don't DATY, yet that was obv literally on the table and honestly thought the 69 was going to be my expensive finish.
But alas she turned around with more kissing and hopped on CG. She is super tight so it was over instantly.
I gave her $140 yet she wanted $160. I brought up the tip. Not her. She implied "I'm worth $160 yet I'll settle for $140".
To her credit I left thinking she was worth $160 ($240/ hr) for what I received that day. It was an impressive experience.
As always YMMV.
	 
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		[QUOTE=Layne123;3955596]In my fantasy I was given Pinky again in recent visit. Past experience has been less than stellar and a few times I told MMS "no Pinky".
So when she opened the door I was not thrilled and expected an expensive HJ.
She's still super hot. Great body. Great face. All natural.
Table shower was great as always.
Massage was ok.
On the flip she went full GFE with no bargaining. I don't LFK or DFK yet that seemed on the table. I don't DATY, yet that was obv literally on the table and honestly thought the 69 was going to be my expensive finish.
But alas she turned around with more kissing and hopped on CG. She is super tight so it was over instantly.
I gave her $140 yet she wanted $160. I brought up the tip. Not her. She implied "I'm worth $160 yet I'll settle for $140".
To her credit I left thinking she was worth $160 ($240/ hr) for what I received that day. It was an impressive experience.
As always YMMV.[/QUOTE]I wonder if there are guys out there that have paid the 160. If she was actually looking for 160, she should shoot for 180. Gas prices seem to correlate with AMP prices. Glad you had a good time, just a little steep.