"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

Lots of these vendors are non-US, and it can be difficult to pay for the membership discreetly, w / a prepaid debit card. I use a pretty secure / discreet email vendor, Hushmail. And they are in Vancouver. The standard OneVanilla doesn't work with them (I have their paid account, as it allows unlimited email aliases. I have two aliases I use for my profiles on SA, I can't use the proper email addresses, they've both been banned). Anyway, I asked Hushmail how to pay for my renewal, and they mentioned:

You could try a pre-paid credit card such as the one in this link.

[URL]https://www.mastercard.ca/en-ca/consumers/find-card-products/prepaid-cards/gift-card.html[/URL]

It is accepted internationally so there shouldn't be any issues.

That's some driving. I do within 2 hrs drive, but I use my businessCC to paid for gas. If your going to spend that much on gas maybe increase your ppm to the ones who are closer to you.

Yes, the sooner you meetup the better, and a little alcohol always helps. I had only one girl not want to meetup with me again after the 1st date. We agreed on BBFS, but she got upset when I cip her. Other then that all the girls after the 1st date know that you have control of the situation. At that point you can slowly push the line on what these girls will do.

Ps no need to ask about the girl I cip. She off the site now.
[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;5078321]It's really a craps shoot with these girls. Some of them seem to be more impulse driven and need that decisive and direct communication up front while others you have to slow play to get them comfortable. I tend to enjoy the ones that require a certain level of comfort before meeting as this isn't just about sex to me. I have a SO at home that is more than happy to do whatever I ask her to do for me but I genuinely enjoy getting to know these girls and spending alone time with them. I've recently increased my search radius on seeking to 250 miles with age range of 18-21 and am having a lot of success finding the sugar babies that I prefer. I am currently rotating between 3 didn't girls and only one of them lives in central VA. The other two are 3-5 hours away.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5078488]That's some driving. I do within 2 hrs drive, but I use my businessCC to paid for gas. If your going to spend that much on gas maybe increase your ppm to the ones who are closer to you.

Yes, the sooner you meetup the better, and a little alcohol always helps. I had only one girl not want to meetup with me again after the 1st date. We agreed on BBFS, but she got upset when I cip her. Other then that all the girls after the 1st date know that you have control of the situation. At that point you can slowly push the line on what these girls will do.

Ps no need to ask about the girl I cip. She off the site now.[/QUOTE]I travel for work so I'm able to expense all my fuel / hotels / food. I consider it a perk of the job. As far as raising my ppm and seeing girls in this area, I have seen all the ones I'm interested in around here. I'm very particular and that limits my options. I find that I prefer the girls away from big cities. I've found that the NC and PA girls that live in more rural areas are better for me and I don't mind traveling to them.

[QUOTE=FarFarAway;5078391]Lots of these vendors are non-US, and it can be difficult to pay for the membership discreetly, w / a prepaid debit card. I use a pretty secure / discreet email vendor, Hushmail. And they are in Vancouver. The standard OneVanilla doesn't work with them (I have their paid account, as it allows unlimited email aliases. I have two aliases I use for my profiles on SA, I can't use the proper email addresses, they've both been banned). Anyway, I asked Hushmail how to pay for my renewal, and they mentioned:

You could try a pre-paid credit card such as the one in this link.

[URL]https://www.mastercard.ca/en-ca/consumers/find-card-products/prepaid-cards/gift-card.html[/URL]

It is accepted internationally so there shouldn't be any issues.[/QUOTE]Thanks for sharing that! IF memory serves one of the sites requires an international component to the prepaid payment for it to work. I'll book mark this for future use.

I agree I prefer rural girls more too. PA has been good to me. I'm starting to looking to VA and WV girls in more rural areas too. Not as hot as city girls, but they try harder, and less BS to deal with.

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;5078697]I travel for work so I'm able to expense all my fuel / hotels / food. I consider it a perk of the job. As far as raising my ppm and seeing girls in this area, I have seen all the ones I'm interested in around here. I'm very particular and that limits my options. I find that I prefer the girls away from big cities. I've found that the NC and PA girls that live in more rural areas are better for me and I don't mind traveling to them.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5079806]I agree I prefer rural girls more too. PA has been good to me. I'm starting to looking to VA and WV girls in more rural areas too. Not as hot as city girls, but they try harder, and less BS to deal with.[/QUOTE]I know someone on SA that goes to Bristol regularly and he says its a non stop parade of 8's for all night fuck fest for $$.

Hi all, long time lurker on the forum but just getting started in the sugar bowl. I was wondering what do you message the SB if you initiate and how do you get them over to Snapchat or text. Thanks in advance and can't wait to share Intel.

Depending on what your looking for. I want a more GFE so I treat it like a normal dating site. I read the girls profile and write a introduction base on what she said, and what I'm looking for. You can just write what your looking for, and just cut and paste it to all the hot girls. I did that too in the past. It's easier and you can mass msg a lot of girls faster. You can also read back forum posting last 6 months, and just msg the girls that have positive reviews.

When your in a conversation with them and, you I feel like they are interested I would ask if they would like to be my SB or want to go on a date. If she say she interested, then I just ask them to msg me on my burner number. Reason I give to move there is I don't like talking allowance on the site. Most girls will understand. Once there I talk money and make sure that the girls know I'm looking for a physical relationship. Also just read a few months of postings. It will help you figure out how to catch scammers and other good information.

[QUOTE=CuddlesGood;5080089]Hi all, long time lurker on the forum but just getting started in the sugar bowl. I was wondering what do you message the SB if you initiate and how do you get them over to Snapchat or text. Thanks in advance and can't wait to share Intel.[/QUOTE]

It's a busy morning for the SBs.

Getting a pro vibe from this one. Profile says she spends time in DC, RVA and Cville. She said she's in Cville for the weekend. Anyone else seen her?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/947f8b53-4358-4775-9bf1-c64dbf097bcb[/URL]

That's great advice. Thank you. I'm pretty good at spotting scams online and already had my first. New 18 yo asked for $20 for dinner before even a m&g LOL.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/c8fcda72-3884-4b69-8bfe-5e45a4dd6191[/URL]

[QUOTE=Lobsid;5080498]Depending on what your looking for. I want a more GFE so I treat it like a normal dating site. I read the girls profile and write a introduction base on what she said, and what I'm looking for. You can just write what your looking for, and just cut and paste it to all the hot girls. I did that too in the past. It's easier and you can mass msg a lot of girls faster. You can also read back forum posting last 6 months, and just msg the girls that have positive reviews.

When your in a conversation with them and, you I feel like they are interested I would ask if they would like to be my SB or want to go on a date. If she say she interested, then I just ask them to msg me on my burner number. Reason I give to move there is I don't like talking allowance on the site. Most girls will understand. Once there I talk money and make sure that the girls know I'm looking for a physical relationship. Also just read a few months of postings. It will help you figure out how to catch scammers and other good information.[/QUOTE]

Got another one already. She's in Williamsburg and claims to be 20. Her number is associated with a guy's Snapchat and his Instagram has a ❤65039;Malia in it. Definitely suspect. Blocked her so I don't have the link.

[QUOTE=LikItFun;5081115]It's a busy morning for the SBs.

Getting a pro vibe from this one. Profile says she spends time in DC, RVA and Cville. She said she's in Cville for the weekend. Anyone else seen her?

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/947f8b53-4358-4775-9bf1-c64dbf097bcb[/URL][/QUOTE]There is a recent review on the Northern VA board. As I recall, she is legit. Big soft enhanced boobs. Semi-pro.

Any intel on this SB? Exchanged a few messages and getting a pro vibe. Travels between Richmond and Northern VA.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/0f79c29c-de04-4fb0-bbca-9b1831e57793[/URL]

[QUOTE=ItsAHobby45;5076723]Don't let that fool you. We fly $10/ hour employees in our corporate planes all the time so she can hang that up 😂.[/QUOTE]Agreed. We have two private jets (large and medium). I would never take a picture with either one of them. Low key is always better.

[QUOTE=BaldEagle;5078135]I have been on S. A. Off and on for over 5 years. My past experience has been to get to a safe private meeting place as soon as possible. These girls are hot and cold. The non pros with a little wine will do things they may not do sober. Once you start a physical friendship its done. She will normally meet you in the future. You mentioned in you post that you reached out to her the following week that may have turned out differently if you had scheduled a next meeting the next day or gone to a room then. Many of the girls don't know what they want or what they will do. I have seen some that have no intention of a physical friendship and boom they are all in. It is about the money. Put a little urgency in your search I think you will have better results. Remember they are being hit with message after message from potential sugar daddys like you. The better looking she is the more they have to try to keep all the messages straight. Remember 50 percent of meeting don't happen somebody gets cold feet.

.[/QUOTE]We had met on a Wednesday around 7:15. By the time we were leaving, it was around 9:30-9:45. I had a 45.

Minute drive home and my alarm goes off by 4 everyday. It doesn't matter with her now, but I usually don't plan on sleeping with a POT after the first meeting. I'll definitely message them quicker in the future.