[QUOTE=Skatar018;4664185]Yeah I thought the same thing, I put him on ignore, or maybe I shouldn't, wouldn't want to hook-up with anyone he's seen![/QUOTE]Hey Skatar! How's your miserable life going?
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[QUOTE=Skatar018;4664185]Yeah I thought the same thing, I put him on ignore, or maybe I shouldn't, wouldn't want to hook-up with anyone he's seen![/QUOTE]Hey Skatar! How's your miserable life going?
Looking for a decent provider in the DC / Bethesda area. Thought I would ask here before dredging another forum. Can pm me.
[QUOTE=Herow;4666734]This is the same report chain of information that was claiming Angela at CB is doing FS (she isn't) and putting out junk like she took time off to have a kid (she didn't have a kid), but then also dumps on her as over-the-hill and her place being a dump after. Now we have Ella from Prospect suddenly giving it up. I agree with the dude who said there would be a line down the street; she knows that and WE ALL KNOW THAT.
Which is exactly the reason that if any single one of us hit the jackpot with her and she gave it up, we would never say a damned thing on this board about it to avoid the rush swamping her place. It's already halfway impossible to get an appointment there unless you go super early in the day.
FS places offer FS. HE places offer HE and occasionally through a personal connection you can get more. That's how it's been and will probably always be. These surprise announcement of "suddenly there is more" are just information gathering attempts.[/QUOTE]LOL, dude, Angela showed me videos of her daughter on her smartphone. When was it last time you saw her? I have an impression that you really don't go anywhere much and base your opinions on 3-4 year-old info. Angela does provide CFS for 140-160 on top of the house fee. Just go there and see for yourself. Unless you are an owner and trying to achieve something which I don't understand. Another possibility is that you are a jealous boyfriend whom she convinced that she doesn't fuck anyone. Dude, she does, pretty much everyone willing to pay. But it's always covered, if it's comforting to you.
On a second thought, your post is, probably, just a phishing attempt aiming to obtain info on Ella.
Some guys just don't realize that others of us are actually good looking and girls actually want to fuck us. I've fucked several girls that supposedly 'don't do that'. The first time, I was youngband naive, came here and told everyine. Tgen she got swamped like you say and it ruined it for me, since she was actually into me and she felt slighted. So now I tell nobody. Unless it's obviously just a slam pig that does it for everyone. But I tend not to see those girls. I build personal relationships.
[QUOTE=OldtimerMa;4666781]LOL, dude, Angela showed me videos of her daughter on her smartphone. When was it last time you saw her? I have an impression that you really don't go anywhere much and base your opinions on 3-4 year-old info. Angela does provide CFS for 140-160 on top of the house fee. Just go there and see for yourself. Unless you are an owner and trying to achieve something which I don't understand. Another possibility is that you are a jealous boyfriend whom she convinced that she doesn't fuck anyone. Dude, she does, pretty much everyone willing to pay. But it's always covered, if it's comforting to you.
On a second thought, your post is, probably, just a phishing attempt aiming to obtain info on Ella.[/QUOTE]
Some guys just don't realize that others of us are actually good looking and girls actually want to fuck us. I've fucked several girls that supposedly 'don't do that'.
Hahahahahahahaha whew, hahahahahahahaha, OMG. Good for you, bro! Hahahahahahahaha. Yet you pay, just like the rest of us!
[QUOTE=NewOld;4666838]Some guys just don't realize that others of us are actually good looking and girls actually want to fuck us. I've fucked several girls that supposedly 'don't do that'. The first time, I was youngband naive, came here and told everyine. Tgen she got swamped like you say and it ruined it for me, since she was actually into me and she felt slighted. So now I tell nobody. Unless it's obviously just a slam pig that does it for everyone. But I tend not to see those girls. I build personal relationships.[/QUOTE]I hate to break it to you but they mostly are not into you, and mainly just care about the cash. Not saying you can't build personal connections, I am sure most of us have had that kind of experience with a regular. But dude, don't be deceived by their flattery. Even if you are good looking, 98 percent of these girls don't care about that. They are not coming to work horny for dick. If anything, most are sick of looking at dick all day. I am not a bad looking guy, and I have had some very intense sessions with regulars. But I never once lied to myself about what it was. The only time I think there may have been anything at all, was with a girl who had sex with me and gave me my money back when I tried to give her a big tip. Even in that case, I felt there was a solid 80 percent chance she was just trying to earn my good will so I would come to her more exclusively (cause even if she wasn't taking the tip, she could have made more money off me just seeing her more without one). Keep your guard up. I have seen women who make you think they love you and only want you, then you read reviews about them taking it from behind by lines of dudes. And the girls who are just more selective: that is still about the money. They are just smarter about it than the girls who fuck everyone. They don't want your cock or your heart, just your money.
[QUOTE=Drewonhere;4666914]Some guys just don't realize that others of us are actually good looking and girls actually want to fuck us. I've fucked several girls that supposedly 'don't do that'.
Hahahahahahahaha whew, hahahahahahahaha, OMG. Good for you, bro! Hahahahahahahaha. Yet you pay, just like the rest of us![/QUOTE]That's right! And then there are others that are so hot looking that girls are actually paying us to lay them! Oh yea, there are a lot of us on this forum too! I myself usually try not to overcharge and donate all the proceeds to charity.
There are even street-level pimps here trying to push their product on all of us here too (Imagine that? But you can usually figure those out just by the way they talk about things. Then. And that's the greater majority of those who say 'not me, I'm for real!' - there are those that try to project their wishful thinking on this board too! Damn, sometimes there are so many of them here that my head spins trying to scroll by their BS! But at least they're easily decipherable.
And the last but not least (no need for applause here) are those who supplement their porn habits by projecting their fantasies on USASG pages, consistently describing events that only happened in their heads. They usually don't last too long and eventually Admin kicks them out but they're always here.
This one is using the same color bikini shots (but rarely of herself) for at least 8 years. I called and asked her for an app't and she kept badgering me, e. G I'd said (stuipidly)) that I was feeling down and her photos were hot. She tiraded me that she was "not the cure to what ails you"! And became appallingly rude.
I tried positing a quick summary on ToSluts, and she began repeat calling my phone, I picked up 1 x and she said "you better pull that ad or I'll tell your wife and daughter what nice things you're doing, Mr. Depressed".
For better or worse, extortion is extortion and I put a complaint form on my local police dep't website. A detective called back and beat around the Bush of "why were you calling her", and I said I thought she was a tantric massage expert! He may have called it, but as foolish as it sounds, it serves as warning: what ever this woman was predictably mad about went along with the great offerings and pics. A pretty face (or in this case 10 year old ass photos) don't make no pretty heart!
[QUOTE=OlGary;4666999]We are just too stupid to keep over paying. I recently visited one not too long ago and she did absolutely nothing. Nothing but just stay in one area of my ass and just go up and down nothing mechanical of a massage never came around front to let me get a grab. Nothing but just probably stay there to milk the clock. And then tells me to flip and when I asked for some extra she did the usual act like she did not speak or fully understand English. She looked okay 7 on the scale but with a nice body of 9. I asked for some extra she declinedm she had no panties on I because I was able to feel the kitty through her yoga while she pumped me like a farm animal. Nothing special she pumped me and I was massaging kitty OTC style. When all was done I gave her. 40 and she says you don't have 60. I said no you didn't give me anything else. Next time.
Was that so hard to do. Seeing some of the reviews on here where everyone is now giving. 60 for HJ one can see why the prices are going up. So what if she is young $120 is a bit steep for a CBJ. Continue on that path and itll be 180 in 3 months.
We price ourselves out of the market they don't really raise the price. We don't pay. The place shuts dowb and quick. Trust me I've seen it happen to quite many places. If only some mongers would not let the little guy make them enough they'd know they have negotiating power, too.[/QUOTE]Toujula / Negsiro / Grogrin is back again. Dude just can't stay away.
[QUOTE=Nrlmus;4667033]That's right! And then there are others that are so hot looking that girls are actually paying us to lay them! Oh yea, there are a lot of us on this forum too! I myself usually try not to overcharge and donate all the proceeds to charity.
There are even street-level pimps here trying to push their product on all of us here too (Imagine that? But you can usually figure those out just by the way they talk about things. Then. And that's the greater majority of those who say 'not me, I'm for real!' - there are those that try to project their wishful thinking on this board too! Damn, sometimes there are so many of them here that my head spins trying to scroll by their BS! But at least they're easily decipherable.
And the last but not least (no need for applause here) are those who supplement their porn habits by projecting their fantasies on USASG pages, consistently describing events that only happened in their heads. They usually don't last too long and eventually Admin kicks them out but they're always here.[/QUOTE]This is a quite accurate classification. Good job with it. But one type of the members is missing in your description. There are some really old dudes here, not having sufficient funds to go out often because they live from one social security check to another, or can't get it up anymore regardless of the amount of cialis taken. So they focus on sharing their wisdom based on past experiences. Sounds familiar, Nrlmus?
[QUOTE=OldtimerMa;4667436]This is a quite accurate classification. Good job with it. But one type of the members is missing in your description. There are some really old dudes here, not having sufficient funds to go out often because they live from one social security check to another, or can't get it up anymore regardless of the amount of cialis taken. So they focus on sharing their wisdom based on past experiences. Sounds familiar, Nrlmus?[/QUOTE]Not sure. I hope your post is not derived from personal experience?
Mate, please elaborate on this post?, please.
[QUOTE=TheBoobHound;4667208]Toujula / Negsiro / Grogrin is back again. Dude just can't stay away[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OlGary;4668299]Mate, please elaborate on this post?, please.[/QUOTE]He means your dumb rants about grandmas and keeping prices low are so played out and annoying you appear to be the dupe account of a famous forum asshole.
How is ranting about gutting out a few old ladies and having to pay reasonable price dumb?. If this is what the lad was arguying for then what was wrong with that.
Last I ranted it was on squirmish bad intel from mongers raving and glorifying on an old granny (Nikko) that was put on a pedestal by retards like you only to find out she's a beat up mule with enough mileage to be an antique. The assholes made her sound like she was a talent agency model.
You have to be an idiot if you are indeed overpaying a bunch of old women on this hobby. Tell me something more constructive you moron.
[QUOTE=Herow;4669009]He means your dumb rants about grandmas and keeping prices low are so played out and annoying you appear to be the dupe account of a famous forum asshole.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OlGary;4669398]How is ranting about gutting out a few old ladies and having to pay reasonable price dumb?. If this is what the lad was arguying for then what was wrong with that.
Last I ranted it was on squirmish bad intel from mongers raving and glorifying on an old granny (Nikko) that was put on a pedestal by retards like you only to find out she's a beat up mule with enough mileage to be an antique. The assholes made her sound like she was a talent agency model.
You have to be an idiot if you are indeed overpaying a bunch of old women on this hobby. Tell me something more constructive you moron.[/QUOTE]Oh, that's definitely Negsiro. Hey, old man.
Then I'll be this person, lad. LOL.
How comical. You are a true idiot!
[QUOTE=CheezeFist;4670147]Oh, that's definitely Negsiro. Hey, old man.[/QUOTE]
This annoying prick OlGary caught my attention, so I looked at his posting activity. Of 36 posts, there is literally no a single one that reviews anything or provides any useful info. They (the posts) are either questions or some idiotic complaints on how people pay too much or provide bad info. That said, he is obviously a silly troll and should be ignored by everyone.
[QUOTE=OldtimerMa;4672802]This annoying prick OlGary caught my attention, so I looked at his posting activity. Of 36 posts, there is literally no a single one that reviews anything or provides any useful info. They (the posts) are either questions or some idiotic complaints on how people pay too much or provide bad info. That said, he is obviously a silly troll and should be ignored by everyone.[/QUOTE]I know Massholes has no rules but if a troll calls out a troll WTF is that?
Trying to disagree with him is digging your own intellectual amd emotional makeup grave. I'll explain.
There are many many places to meet older uglier women. Desperate women. Who will fuck anyone. Church, bars, the supermarket, you name it, desperate 50 yr old women are there. There is ANOTHER place you can meet desperate old women. The massage parlor. The only difference is you'll need to shell out 200 to fuck them.
The REALITY is thus shown to be this. You, the patron of an old, damaged, desperate woman has shown himself to be incapable of any depth of contact with a woman face to face. Your scars run so deep and your self hatred so ardorous, that you can't take the enormous weight of a woman's gaze of expectation upon your feagike, withered soul. You lack such enormous amounts of emotional strength, that you become unable to support ANYTHING emotionally. Even yourself.
[QUOTE=OldtimerMa;4672802]This annoying prick OlGary caught my attention, so I looked at his posting activity. Of 36 posts, there is literally no a single one that reviews anything or provides any useful info. They (the posts) are either questions or some idiotic complaints on how people pay too much or provide bad info. That said, he is obviously a silly troll and should be ignored by everyone.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NewOld;4672934]Trying to disagree with him is digging your own intellectual amd emotional makeup grave. I'll explain.
There are many many places to meet older uglier women. Desperate women. Who will fuck anyone. Church, bars, the supermarket, you name it, desperate 50 yr old women are there. There is ANOTHER place you can meet desperate old women. The massage parlor. The only difference is you'll need to shell out 200 to fuck them.
The REALITY is thus shown to be this. You, the patron of an old, damaged, desperate woman has shown himself to be incapable of any depth of contact with a woman face to face. Your scars run so deep and your self hatred so ardorous, that you can't take the enormous weight of a woman's gaze of expectation upon your feagike, withered soul. You lack such enormous amounts of emotional strength, that you become unable to support ANYTHING emotionally. Even yourself.[/QUOTE]Pretentious bullshit. By the way, where is that supermarket where I can meet women who will fuck anyone?
[QUOTE=BillyBaloney;4672905]I know Massholes has no rules but if a troll calls out a troll WTF is that?[/QUOTE]Hey Negsiro, how many accounts do you have?
Trickster, It seems that Charlie Harper / Charlie Sheen used to be able to find them just walking the aisles in multiple supermarkets, sometimes with his nephew in tow as a piece of ass attracting magnet.
[QUOTE=Trickster666;4673227] .....by the way, where is that supermarket where I can meet women who will fuck anyone?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BillyBaloney;4672905]I know Massholes has no rules but if a troll calls out a troll WTF is that[/QUOTE]Multiple personalities, very many!
[QUOTE=Trickster666;4673227]Pretentious bullshit. By the way, where is that supermarket where I can meet women who will fuck anyone?[/QUOTE]Forget the supermarket, where is this church where the ladies are handing it out like candy. Definitely everyone gets that you can meet women away from AMPs and escorts. But women in the check out line or the pews are not there to hook up. His post would ring more true if he had said something plausible (like a night club). But he is forgetting something crucial: guys here are looking for NSA hookups. You pay for that convenience.
[QUOTE=Skatar018;4673972]Multiple personalities, very many![/QUOTE]Who needs a zoo when mad animals BillyBaloney and Skatar are back to the board?
Another asshole to ignore just like me, I wish I could put myself on ignore.
[QUOTE=OldtimerMa;4674593]Who needs a zoo when mad animals BillyBaloney and Skatar are back to the board?[/QUOTE]
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The whole NSA thing IS THE ONLY reason to do this. Unfortunately, THIS IS ALL that many men can actually do.
Many of us are married and / or can grab women whenever we want from wherever. But the NSA nature of parlors is unmatched. Which is what makes it hilarious when guys try to say 'gotcha' with the old 'if you're so good looking why are you paying for sex?' foolishness.
[QUOTE=STDKing;4673976]Forget the supermarket, where is this church where the ladies are handing it out like candy. Definitely everyone gets that you can meet women away from AMPs and escorts. But women in the check out line or the pews are not there to hook up. His post would ring more true if he had said something plausible (like a night club). But he is forgetting something crucial: guys here are looking for NSA hookups. You pay for that convenience.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OldtimerMa;4672802]This annoying prick OlGary caught my attention, so I looked at his posting activity. Of 36 posts, there is literally no a single one that reviews anything or provides any useful info. They (the posts) are either questions or some idiotic complaints on how people pay too much or provide bad info. That said, he is obviously a silly troll and should be ignored by everyone.[/QUOTE]Hes getting HJs from 9's for 40 bux or he's walkin the fuck out! I'm sure you noticed that he has zero posts of where they are.
I don't lractice banging some 50 year ols tale from the crypt grannies, dropping anywhere between 120 to 160 and claiming theyre hot shit like many reviews on here claim. Only to be debunked by other mongers not playing along with the lies. Its bad enough we get duped trying to find one we're comfortable with but it hurts when the deception comes from fellow mates who are encouraging the providers bait and switch practice.
This asshole oldtimer ma is really a condescending prick. The guy sends me private message about his displeasure on what I speak, that has nothing to with him when I was just voicing an opinion, and rightefully so, about the state of providers coming back from China given the current situation od corona virus. It was a complete letigimate concern but this asshole whos probably a parlor employee mentioned such only one that works there would be so butt hurt.
Stating such things as, "so what if my girls came back from China, they are human and have family to care for. We provide a good service you are being hypocritical and selfish. ".
Are you a man or woman. Papasan is that you? Just leave me alone mate, this is the you. S we are allowed to speak freely last I checked.
[QUOTE=ThizzleHats;4675939]Hes getting HJs from 9's for 40 bux or he's walkin the fuck out! I'm sure you noticed that he has zero posts of where they are.[/QUOTE]
Ahh what's the matter feeling lost little boy, you don't know how to step up & stop lying do you.
[QUOTE=Skatar018;3277953]No hard feelings, I wouldn't blame you for ignoring me, I'm an asshole. A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Guess your itty bitty got feeling hurt again, why so serious A2 you're to sensitive!
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[QUOTE=Skatar018;4676186]Ahh what's the matter feeling lost little boy, you don't know how to step up & stop lying do you.
Guess your itty bitty got feeling hurt again, why so serious A2 you're to sensitive!
Oh no not another infraction, fucking putz.[/QUOTE]Oh yeah, I remember how this dumb beech Skatar tried to place A2 on his ignore list. That was not very smart.
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This asshole oldtimer ma is really a condescending prick. The guy sends me private message about his displeasure on what I speak, that has nothing to with him when I was just voicing an opinion, and rightefully so, about the state of providers coming back from China given the current situation od corona virus. It was a complete letigimate concern but this asshole whos probably a parlor employee mentioned such only one that works there would be so butt hurt.
Stating such things as, "so what if my girls came back from China, they are human and have family to care for. We provide a good service you are being hypocritical and selfish. ".[/QUOTE]LOL, haha, I've never PMed you anything like that. And, as I mentioned to you already, I know exactly who you are (all your 20+ handles), so just fuck off, stupid POS.
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You are not understanding the nature of Massholes, you're trying to talk about some other members real life and are taking this shit way to personal.
Massholes is a place to call somebody an asshole, it's not about this.
Seriously, you need to get some other interests.
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Are you suggesting that Ella and Niko are grannies? Have you ever actually seen them? Apologies if I missed it, but I don't recall any review from you about either of them.
Your Penthouse Forum want to-be post about an already well reviewed place cracks me up.
I don't know or had a session with this Ella nor would I entertain taking part with her either seeing how many have already inflated her prices beyond reasonable reach. It is not just the grannie part you are missing in what was stated, did you see the price the cheerfully gloated?
Let me ask you lads something, how come we cannot use the same logic of the new car out the lot with a beat up provider. You know, the famous say. 'if you buy a new car, the minute you drive it out the lot the value depreciates'.
How it is that a provider with a beat up meat that's got more mileage on it then a 1998 nissan altima is getting paid extreme top dollars when half the city had their turn. How does her price keep going up, especially with each monger trying to top the next?
As far as Niko goes I am guessing this is another Niko and not that infamous granny that was being heralded as a gem only to be severely debunked and then those that tool part started confessing as to the real description.
Again if I came across them I wouldn't be impress and I'd offer what I know should be standardm take it or leave I wall out. Top many of you lads are just afraid to walk away woth your money thibking theres going to be some sort of back lash, why? Its your money. Like that gal that tried to hustle me for a lackluster pitiful job, dis not do a bloddy dam thing extra and flat out refused then had the nerve to ask for more. I replied no you didn't do more so I don't pay more.
Was that so hard to do, you tell me mate?
[QUOTE=JoeBujian;4676886]Are you suggesting that Ella and Niko are grannies? Have you ever actually seen them? Apologies if I missed it, but I don't recall any review from you about either of them.[/QUOTE]
Don't want to repost here OlGary's latest exercise in erotic writing, it's way too long and excessively silly. The guy sounds like a 30-year unemployed loser, still living in his mom's basement, who didn't touch a woman in years. I recommend ignoring this idiot.
Who gives a fuck about her name. You mates keep giving importance to their names as if it means something or carry any relevance and why many of you sound dumber every time you get caught up trying to remember if Ella was Niko because last time she said she was Yummy and now she goes by the name of Coco, Yoyo, Popo ect. I swear every time I see you lads trying to figure out what name some chic you met gave you I shake my head in disbelief.
I don't even bother with some stupid name that she changes with every other jock and watches you idiots fight over it like morons. I just go in and go to work. You Empower them with your overhyped asinine nicknames. I could careless.
As far as prices go. Why, why should I pay more just because she was young? How do you lads allow this to be your Achilles heel.
Here's my price list.
HJ- 40. Why pay more when they just jack hammer you sometimes. No reason to pay more then m40 for a silly HJ. I see many now payin. 60 or even 80. That is just insane?
DATY- dunno how you do it. Have never taken part. Downright filthy. No thanks. You have to be stupid beyond anything to be paying them for DATY as I've seen many post on here. If you have to pay a woman to eat her pussy then you deserve to get money talen from you. They should outright be glad you do it. You should not have to pay for DATY.
CBJ- the most overblown, over paid activity on the menu I see reviewed. That should come along with FS, it's like a salad before the meal but you lads have chosen to over pay for it and make it part of the menu. LOL how silly. I have yet to pay for this portion. I usually gotten it along with FS. I see idiotic reviews of some of you claiming she took it all off and gave you a CBJ for 120. I shake my head.
CFS- 80-100 Is what I've paid. I see 140-200 by the usual lads (and in one case a moron says he uped it to 300 or more) and I'd say you are over paying there. Sorry if you dishing out that much and can't keep it at a steady 100 then yes I'd say you are paying too much.
[QUOTE=Momo2;4677117].
So did you get her name? If she was a hottie, what would you pay for a naked HJ, or DATY, CBJ, CFS? Just want to see what you would consider paying for the young ones.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=OlGary;4677186]Who gives a fuck about her name. You mates keep giving importance to their names as if it means something or carry any relevance and why many of you sound dumber every time you get caught up trying to remember if Ella was Niko because last time she said she was Yummy and now she goes by the name of Coco, Yoyo, Popo ect. I swear every time I see you lads trying to figure out what name some chic you met gave you I shake my head in disbelief.
I don't even bother with some stupid name that she changes with every other jock and watches you idiots fight over it like morons. I just go in and go to work. You Empower them with your overhyped asinine nicknames. I could careless.
As far as prices go. Why, why should I pay more just because she was young? How do you lads allow this to be your Achilles heel.
Here's my price list..[/QUOTE]I have literally never met a single provider who switched up names like that. Only when they go to a different location have I seen them switch up names. They give you their name so you will ask for them again and they get more money. I have had girls pretend to be another provider when I've asked for that provider by name on phone (but they only keep up the confusion long enough to get me in the room with them and get my money).
Dude, if you are capping out your full service at 80-100, I can't imagine you are having much success, and if you are getting it still, you are definitely getting lesser service. I have providers who go that low, but it is get what you pay for (usually they are older, more mechanical, or out in the boonies). Younger, more enthusiastic and more affectionate girls will often push for the 120-200 hundred range because they know they are better than the other options out there. Not saying you should pay more than you want, but your whole routine of getting the service, then under paying, is only pissing them off (and making them way more likely to accuse you of something if there is a bust——and trust me, busts happen and girls lie about guys they don't like).