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[QUOTE=Flagrant;4871739]I'm sorry that happened to you. I appreciate you reporting it. I'll contact her to see if I can get her to come to an outcall. Just to fuck with her.[/QUOTE]She posted again a little while ago!! Must be successful at this game with unsuspecting gents!!
[QUOTE=Andy54;4871821]I thought I was the only one mean enough to do that. I had a girl go to portage for an overnighter a few years ago.[/QUOTE]It's the easiest and least risky way to get back at a girl who does ripoffs. Hit them where it hurts. Waste their time. Create turmoil with whoever is driving them around, if they're not solo. Make them feel more paranoid about seeing someone. Etc.
[QUOTE=Flagrant;4871739]I'm sorry that happened to you. I appreciate you reporting it. I'll contact her to see if I can get her to come to an outcall. Just to fuck with her.[/QUOTE]Has anyone reported the post on STG?
[QUOTE=RawlSocket;4862505]Just curious, are you married or have significant other? If so it must be a pita to explain what happened to your wallet, LOL. If not, I would set up another meet under a different identity to get some payback. Not talking violence, just give them the chance to make amends. I did something like it about 15 years ago. Got a little satisfaction back.[/QUOTE]I am married, so it is always a little harder, but telling her I lost my wallet really wasn't that hard, since I told her I had no idea where I lost it. I'd love payback, but under the circumstances, I decided I probably got off lucky without getting hurt.
[QUOTE=HeywoodJablow;4863030]Was she good the other times? She comes to the Fox Valley occasionally and appears to be the hottest real girl by far.
I'd be tempted to damage her room so she could never return there.[/QUOTE]Obviously I got along good with her. It was more of the idea that she was never busy, gave me a decent price and I thought I could trust her. I liked the idea of not having to worry about what was going to happen with a new girl. She definitely was nothing special as far as body, face, and services, but she was easy and reliable, and in a great and handy spot. I guess I'm just as good off seeing new girls and taking a chance since my old reliable isn't at all reliable.
[QUOTE=NutsyNut;4861711]I've been seeing Allison for a few months now, and I guess I got careless because I've never fealt like she was capable of ripping me off, but not only did she rip me off, she robbed me. I don't usually carry my wallet when I meet a girl, but today I took it with me without thinking. Big mistake. Pretty simple plan she had. I went in, layed down the donation, and got undressed like I always do. She was getting undressed, but then asked if I minded washing my hands since I like to fiv, and she's more worried about germs because of covid. I had no problem with that, so I went into the bathroom and started washing, and just like that she went past the bathroom and out the door! WTF? I figured she was coming back since it was her room (I assume). I waited a half hour while trying to contact her. I finally decided it wasn't happening, so I got dressed, and then realized my wallet was missing. I left and sat out and in the parking lot hoping to catch her somewhere. Finally gave and went home. What should I do? Pretty hard to file a complaint, isn't it?[/QUOTE]So Allison contacted me today, and apologized. Says she is sorry about what happened, and wanted me to come see her, and she'd make it up to me. I asked if that meant I didn't need any donation. She said, no, you still have to pay the donation. I asked how that's making up for stealing my stuff. She said she'd give me an extra good time? I said sure, but she doesn't see any money until we are finished. She says I need to pay upfront. WTF? I wouldn't even go see her even if she was offering it for free, but to say you are going to make it up to me, but not offer anything except a good time is a joke!
[QUOTE=NutsyNut;4881219]So Allison contacted me today, and apologized. Says she is sorry about what happened, and wanted me to come see her, and she'd make it up to me. I asked if that meant I didn't need any donation. She said, no, you still have to pay the donation. I asked how that's making up for stealing my stuff. She said she'd give me an extra good time? I said sure, but she doesn't see any money until we are finished. She says I need to pay upfront. WTF? I wouldn't even go see her even if she was offering it for free, but to say you are going to make it up to me, but not offer anything except a good time is a joke![/QUOTE]She is a sociopath.
[QUOTE=NutsyNut;4881219]So Allison contacted me today, and apologized. Says she is sorry about what happened, and wanted me to come see her, and she'd make it up to me. I asked if that meant I didn't need any donation. She said, no, you still have to pay the donation. I asked how that's making up for stealing my stuff. She said she'd give me an extra good time? I said sure, but she doesn't see any money until we are finished. She says I need to pay upfront. WTF? I wouldn't even go see her even if she was offering it for free, but to say you are going to make it up to me, but not offer anything except a good time is a joke![/QUOTE]I saw Allison once, a few years ago. She was cute enough then, but service sucked. The kind of girl that begs you for a tip while she's saying No.
I was stuck on a girl once with a similar kind of dynamic. She never stole my wallet, but it was a crap shoot whether we'd fuck or whether she'd interrupt the session for some random fabricated reason. Thankfully, we gravitated to a cost point where I really didn't care. Sometimes it was $40 for an hour of the best fucking and sucking of my life with a hot ex-gymnast. Sometimes I'd pay $80 and the session would be over 5 minutes in with "kids in the hospital" kind of bullshit. On it went. I'd try to quit. And then I'd survey the other available options here in Madison and I'd run screaming back to her ripoff lying hot ass.
Finally, she changed her number during one of these cycles and hasn't posted since, so I've completely lost touch.
Desperation doesn't feed itself my friends.
[QUOTE=NutsyNut;4881219]So Allison contacted me today, and apologized. Says she is sorry about what happened, and wanted me to come see her, and she'd make it up to me. I asked if that meant I didn't need any donation. She said, no, you still have to pay the donation. I asked how that's making up for stealing my stuff. She said she'd give me an extra good time? I said sure, but she doesn't see any money until we are finished. She says I need to pay upfront. WTF? I wouldn't even go see her even if she was offering it for free, but to say you are going to make it up to me, but not offer anything except a good time is a joke![/QUOTE]Did she offer to return your wallet? Sadly, I am guessing that is long gone. I imagine she has had fewer clients since you posted about her ripping you off and rightfully so. But hey, she is sorry, its almost as good as getting your wallet, cash, credit cards, drivers license and ID's back. It's absolutely amazing that she has the nerve to tell you that you will have to pay at all and even worse pay up front!!
[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/ms-yanni-5-provider/788700221843[/URL]
Don't waste your time with her. She'll ask for a deposit then not show up. $35 lesson learned.
[QUOTE=AverageJoe40;4882598]Did she offer to return your wallet? Sadly, I am guessing that is long gone. I imagine she has had fewer clients since you posted about her ripping you off and rightfully so. But hey, she is sorry, its almost as good as getting your wallet, cash, credit cards, drivers license and ID's back. It's absolutely amazing that she has the nerve to tell you that you will have to pay at all and even worse pay up front!![/QUOTE]It's actually pretty hilarious. She wasn't offering me anything to make up for ripping me off. Apparently she thinks that telling me she's sorry makes up for everything, and I should pay her some more money and probably get nothing in return. She'd probably steal my car this time.
[QUOTE=VincentCarter;4902629][URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/ms-yanni-5-provider/788700221843[/URL]
Don't waste your time with her. She'll ask for a deposit then not show up. $35 lesson learned.[/QUOTE]Sorry this happened to you, but first lesson with these girls is. Never pay before the meet. You can post this one in the Rip Offs folder. Good thing it was only $35.
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[QUOTE=NutsyNut;4903078]It's actually pretty hilarious. She wasn't offering me anything to make up for ripping me off. Apparently she thinks that telling me she's sorry makes up for everything, and I should pay her some more money and probably get nothing in return. She'd probably steal my car this time.[/QUOTE]Most of us are capable of making decisions that balance short and long term goals. In general, girls selling their ass have balanced that equation pretty firmly on a very short time horizon.
[QUOTE=SixZeroEight12;4765524]Aside from her being a rip off, I would suggest nobody believe the very few ads for rc (I've seen a few over the years) town is full of drugs and thieves and l. E. are typical small town corrupt Barney fifes.[/QUOTE]Guys, I believe Arlene is back in town.
[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/incalls-outcalls-east-madison/184319382941[/URL]
Same tattoo on her tummy as that reported in the rip-off thread by Popeye and the pic he posted of her ad.
[QUOTE=DanMadison;5016743]Guys, I believe Arlene is back in town.
[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/incalls-outcalls-east-madison/184319382941[/URL]
Same tattoo on her tummy as that reported in the rip-off thread by Popeye and the pic he posted of her ad.[/QUOTE]Yes, looks like her. Arlene, Ashley, now Taylor. She has an extensive list of cases on CCAP. I would highly recommend avoiding.
[QUOTE=Flagrant;5017540]Yes, looks like her. Arlene, Ashley, now Taylor. She has an extensive list of cases on CCAP. I would highly recommend avoiding.[/QUOTE]Let the games begin. . .
D 101.
[QUOTE=Develish101;5020325]Let the games begin. . .
D 101.[/QUOTE]Yup, she's back:
[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/incalls-east-madison-608733049/274947685650[/URL]
She'll send those pics from a 715 number. Avoid. She has a long rap sheet on CCAP, mostly theft. She'll tell you everything you want to hear until you're in the room and hand over the money. Then there will be a knock at the door. And you'll have to decide: Fight or flight. But a choice that you won't have is to fuck her silly ass. Unless you decide to get really violent. Good luck with that.
[QUOTE=Crisler;5043627]Yup, she's back:
[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/incalls-east-madison-608733049/274947685650[/URL]
She'll send those pics from a 715 number. Avoid. She has a long rap sheet on CCAP, mostly theft. She'll tell you everything you want to hear until you're in the room and hand over the money. Then there will be a knock at the door. And you'll have to decide: Fight or flight. But a choice that you won't have is to fuck her silly ass. Unless you decide to get really violent. Good luck with that.[/QUOTE]Would be interesting to have a buddy or two posted at the door.
[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/petite-sexy-and-wet-with-speci/798345429237[/URL]
The pic isn't accurate anyway. She has vibrant purple hair, black boots, black jacket. Took the money then immediately took a phone call, sounded like a stressed convo with her "aunt". She asked to pass the money off at the door to her aunt so her kids could get some food. Said she wouldn't leave but that's exactly what she did and obviously ghosted messages. Said her name was Natalie; she was talking to a Lincoln. Looked like a meth addict.
[QUOTE=PaperPyramid;5046273][URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/petite-sexy-and-wet-with-speci/798345429237[/URL]
The pic isn't accurate anyway. She has vibrant purple hair, black boots, black jacket. Took the money then immediately took a phone call, sounded like a stressed convo with her "aunt". She asked to pass the money off at the door to her aunt so her kids could get some food. Said she wouldn't leave but that's exactly what she did and obviously ghosted messages. Said her name was Natalie; she was talking to a Lincoln. Looked like a meth addict.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry for your experience. This is her modus operandi.
For anyone paying attention, this is Autumn. She's been ripping people off since she arrived back on the scene, over a year and a half ago. I reported on her in the Escort Reports section.
[QUOTE=Crisler;5043627]Yup, she's back:
[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/incalls-east-madison-608733049/274947685650[/URL]
She'll send those pics from a 715 number. Avoid. She has a long rap sheet on CCAP, mostly theft. She'll tell you everything you want to hear until you're in the room and hand over the money. Then there will be a knock at the door. And you'll have to decide: Fight or flight.[/QUOTE]Yeah I was going to try her but she sent me pics that were no where near her ad pics and that was a red enough flag for me. If they lie about that they'll lie about anything.
[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/post/382702358343[/URL]
Stay away from this thief. Sent her $25 for 2 videos, took the money and went silent.
[QUOTE=JustDiggen;5094797][URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/post/382702358343[/URL]
Stay away from this thief. Sent her $25 for 2 videos, took the money and went silent.[/QUOTE]I know it's not a lot of loss. Still. Being fooled is not a happy feeling. I texted her and from that, I got the impression she is not reliable. So I did not pull the trigger for anything.
[QUOTE=JustDiggen;5094797][URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/post/382702358343[/URL]
Stay away from this thief. Sent her $25 for 2 videos, took the money and went silent.[/QUOTE]I never prepay. I still get ripped off occasionally.
[QUOTE=JustDiggen;5094797][URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/post/382702358343[/URL]
Stay away from this thief. Sent her $25 for 2 videos, took the money and went silent.[/QUOTE]It's what they do, rip people off.
Don't fall for the ad of Bbw offering a real massage and some fun? I was stupid and sent her money for a deposit,(I know, don't send a deposit) then got put off to a different day and time and sob stories on how her lights were shut off and her and the kids were staying in the van at a gas station parking lot. Also she said was being stalked by someone. She gave me the wrong address to go for an incall and then lied about it. I still have the texts from her to prove it. I was stupid, don't you be!
[QUOTE=Kermit61;5111110]Don't fall for the ad of Bbw offering a real massage and some fun? I was stupid and sent her money for a deposit,(I know, don't send a deposit) then got put off to a different day and time and sob stories on how her lights were shut off and her and the kids were staying in the van at a gas station parking lot. Also she said was being stalked by someone. She gave me the wrong address to go for an incall and then lied about it. I still have the texts from her to prove it. I was stupid, don't you be![/QUOTE]Surprised it wasn't a "van down by the river. " I feel your pain. Thanks for the warning. And reminder about sending money. Just say no. Don't let the boys do the thinking until your hook up is within 9 inches.
[URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/dripping-wet-130hhr200hr-wi-de/169490333856[/URL]
Takes payment while her boyfriend is under the bed then she claims she is underage. Think he was expecting a weaker person to prey upon even pulled a knife on me but I was well prepared for that shit. Either way I was ready to kick both there asses if I did not get my money back low life drug addicts and my dumb ass should have known better.
[QUOTE=BurlyFish;5119753][URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/dripping-wet-130hhr200hr-wi-de/169490333856[/URL]
Takes payment while her boyfriend is under the bed then she claims she is underage. Think he was expecting a weaker person to prey upon even pulled a knife on me but I was well prepared for that shit. Either way I was ready to kick both there asses if I did not get my money back low life drug addicts and my dumb ass should have known better.[/QUOTE]LOL, please tell us the full story! I would love to hear it. BTW, good for you to stand up to POS people. I wouldn't suggest everyone to do that.
[QUOTE=Wj0272;5120363]LOL, please tell us the full story! I would love to hear it. BTW, good for you to stand up to POS people. I wouldn't suggest everyone to do that.[/QUOTE]Seconds after I gave her the money her phone rings and she says it is her boyfriend he is coming over and he does not know she does this. She asks me to go back to my car and wait. I told her to give me my money back there is not Fing way I am leaving the room without it. Then she says she is underage and going to call the police saying I put my hands on her. She did not look like she was even close to that age "then again drugs can make you age fast: D". Any way I refused to leave without my money so then she yells for her boyfriend that was hiding in the corner half way under a bed. I was in his face before he even had a chance to get up and when I seen the knife I pulled out my blade. Not much the dumb ass could do as he was wedge between the wall and bed frame might have been half smacked out of his mind. He had a monkey faced and a goiter on his neck he knew he was fucked and started screaming at her to give me my money back. Looks like they been staying in that room for a few days it is in Lake Delton at the Malibu Inn room 20.
[QUOTE=BurlyFish;5119753][URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/dripping-wet-130hhr200hr-wi-de/169490333856[/URL]
Takes payment while her boyfriend is under the bed then she claims she is underage. Think he was expecting a weaker person to prey upon even pulled a knife on me but I was well prepared for that shit. Either way I was ready to kick both there asses if I did not get my money back low life drug addicts and my dumb ass should have known better.[/QUOTE]Also wonder why StG has yet to take down there add I understand how it is just one persons word but when this one person has never reported before it should hold some merit.
[QUOTE=BurlyFish;5119753][URL]https://madison.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/dripping-wet-130hhr200hr-wi-de/169490333856[/URL]
Takes payment while her boyfriend is under the bed then she claims she is underage. Think he was expecting a weaker person to prey upon even pulled a knife on me but I was well prepared for that shit. Either way I was ready to kick both there asses if I did not get my money back low life drug addicts and my dumb ass should have known better.[/QUOTE]They are well known rip off artists. That is why this forum is so valuable!
[QUOTE=BurlyFish;5120728]Seconds after I gave her the money her phone rings and she says it is her boyfriend he is coming over and he does not know she does this. She asks me to go back to my car and wait. I told her to give me my money back there is not Fing way I am leaving the room without it. Then she says she is underage and going to call the police saying I put my hands on her. She did not look like she was even close to that age "then again drugs can make you age fast: D". Any way I refused to leave without my money so then she yells for her boyfriend that was hiding in the corner half way under a bed. I was in his face before he even had a chance to get up and when I seen the knife I pulled out my blade. Not much the dumb ass could do as he was wedge between the wall and bed frame might have been half smacked out of his mind. He had a monkey faced and a goiter on his neck he knew he was fucked and started screaming at her to give me my money back. Looks like they been staying in that room for a few days it is in Lake Delton at the Malibu Inn room 20.[/QUOTE]Her name is Destiny Dull. Look her up on Facebook or CCAP. She's been doing this for 2 years or so. Names she's used: Ashley, Arlene, Taylor. You can find her pics by searching for Arlene in the top-level Madison thread. Here's just one of many reports:
[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9363-Escort-Reports&p=5073202&viewfull=1#post5073202[/URL]
[QUOTE=BurlyFish;5120728]Seconds after I gave her the money her phone rings and she says it is her boyfriend he is coming over and he does not know she does this. She asks me to go back to my car and wait. I told her to give me my money back there is not Fing way I am leaving the room without it. Then she says she is underage and going to call the police saying I put my hands on her. She did not look like she was even close to that age "then again drugs can make you age fast: D". Any way I refused to leave without my money so then she yells for her boyfriend that was hiding in the corner half way under a bed. I was in his face before he even had a chance to get up and when I seen the knife I pulled out my blade. Not much the dumb ass could do as he was wedge between the wall and bed frame might have been half smacked out of his mind. He had a monkey faced and a goiter on his neck he knew he was fucked and started screaming at her to give me my money back. Looks like they been staying in that room for a few days it is in Lake Delton at the Malibu Inn room 20.[/QUOTE]LOL, but it's not really funny!
[QUOTE=BurlyFish;5120737]Also wonder why StG has yet to take down there add I understand how it is just one persons word but when this one person has never reported before it should hold some merit.[/QUOTE]STG is responsive to requests to block known ripoff artists. I'll ask them to block her. When I make such requests, I reference ripoff reports on the forum as "evidence. " So your report is super helpful. Thanks!
[QUOTE=BurlyFish;5120728]Seconds after I gave her the money her phone rings and she says it is her boyfriend he is coming over and he does not know she does this. She asks me to go back to my car and wait. I told her to give me my money back there is not Fing way I am leaving the room without it. Then she says she is underage and going to call the police saying I put my hands on her. She did not look like she was even close to that age "then again drugs can make you age fast: D". Any way I refused to leave without my money so then she yells for her boyfriend that was hiding in the corner half way under a bed. I was in his face before he even had a chance to get up and when I seen the knife I pulled out my blade. Not much the dumb ass could do as he was wedge between the wall and bed frame might have been half smacked out of his mind. He had a monkey faced and a goiter on his neck he knew he was fucked and started screaming at her to give me my money back. Looks like they been staying in that room for a few days it is in Lake Delton at the Malibu Inn room 20.[/QUOTE]I got vicarious pleasure from this story. When they did something similar to me, I just cut my losses and left. A while later, I had the pleasure of inviting her to an outcall twice, to hotels on the other side of town from where she was. And of course, I wasn't there. Once she arrived and after spending a little time looking for me, I just told her to go fuck her ripoff self off. LOL.
That was satisfying. I'll keep trying if she keeps showing up. I encourage others to do the same.
[QUOTE=Flagrant;5122021]I got vicarious pleasure from this story. When they did something similar to me, I just cut my losses and left. A while later, I had the pleasure of inviting her to an outcall twice, to hotels on the other side of town from where she was. And of course, I wasn't there. Once she arrived and after spending a little time looking for me, I just told her to go fuck her ripoff self off. LOL.
That was satisfying. I'll keep trying if she keeps showing up. I encourage others to do the same.[/QUOTE]" yeah for those Indiana Jones types That take problem situations into their own hands. A lot of us unfortunately have been raised with no calluses are know hands to hand combat. That's not to say if it were life-and-death we wouldn't find some inner fortitude we didn't know existed. But the scammers know how it's like taking candy from a baby ripping off hobbyists. One simple bang on the door A man walking in and being confrontational, the escort saying that she is going to say that you did something to her that you didn't do, real easy to scare off a hobbyist and get all their money. I like flagrant's approach, the distance technique. If a girl crossed me severely one way to put a little energy into creating a consequential scenario, you could have an escort running in circles night after night after night with no show after no-show after no-show. You can use a different burner every 10 minutes. You can find out the room number and then report that someone's in distress there. That's why I find it so hard to believe when some of these these girls turn to scamming hobbyists. It seems to me they're far more vulnerable than he is. Although the politics of this era tend to dictate that regardless of a female escorts disposition and behavior that ultimately somehow she is the victim conclusively. That is a bigger picture scenario of analysis that one that perverts justice and facts in a way that leaves hobbyist victims with their hands tied in a situation like that. Many of us chalk it up to money spent for research a lesson learned. Not all of us are loaded. I've had a few experiences in the past several years where I was really short on cash but wanted some companionship and I got played. It was downright devastating. And I ended up spending money that I didn't even have. On the other hand we have to look at the escort and her side of what occurs to them. They run at a very high risk circle. Their cohorts their habits put them in a atmosphere of illegality and risk. Physical risk being a sex worker has its Givens it seems to be at five out of every 10 men are begging for bareback and aren't willing to produce STD screening results. It's as if they have no regard for a woman's physical safety and somehow think that because they're doing what they do that they probably don't care anyways. I do know I'm very close with a couple of girls who work and have hung out with them while they screen calls on their texting apps and I watch them schedule and I've watch them be completely jacked around repeatedly. I've read on this site how some of you will purposely book with two or three providers simultaneously promising a two or 2 1/2 2 1/2 hour visit for three or $400 only to show up at one of the three at the last minute and then tell them something came up and you only have time for a half an hour. Yes this does happen so that means that this sex worker just cleared her calendar for 2 1/2 hours and there was a no-show as for the one that he did show at she cleared her calendar for 2 1/2 hours only for a half hour visit and by the time she gets another Call in play she'll have wasted a minimum of an hour and a half. I've seen it over and over again. And then of course there is the occasional violence against women who work in the field thank God it doesn't seem to be too often here. Here's a little story one of our local darlings that many of us hold near and dear has worked in this town for quite a long time relayed an incident that occurred recently with one of her calls. She was providing incall and the gentleman said he wanted an hour visit. He showed up in this particular provider being as cool as she is never looks at the donation upfront and never looked never asks for the donation upfront. Very rare. She gave him to the full Monty. The BBBJ and the GFE and you couldn't even realize you were paying for a service he got his shit rocked for about 35/40 minutes. She proceeded to chitchat and do a little massage and he asked for a washcloth to clean up she left the room came back gave him the washcloth and shortly there after he asked her to escort him to the door and he left very happy. She went back to the envelope expecting to find $180. But no this gentleman decided that because he didn't stay the full hour even though he booked it he took back $60 out of the envelope without even telling her. So she ended up at $120 was very very very upset and felt really burned. When she tried to text or call him back he did not respond. And it's funny because just the day before I had been talking to her telling her you should really take your donations upfront and check them because sometimes people do funny things. And she told me that that's just not the vibe that she wants to put out she wants people to feel treated well and somehow she felt like that would make people feel like she was treating them just trust fully. The very next day that happened and she really was upset. So I can imagine that that guy won't be calling her again and it's his loss because this particular provider is one of the top of the heap in town and a total sweetheart and if he had just played his cards right he could've had a regular thing with a girl that would make him feel 1,000,000 miles high. I wonder what the stories about Jane recently going off the rails and robbing people because she doesn't feel very respected I can only imagine that situations as I just described were happening to her on some level as a matter fact you can almost count on it that doesn't excuse becoming a see if that doesn't excuse taking a vantage of lonely men that want to be touched. But nonetheless you can see there's two sides to the coin. I think if you ask any provider that works regularly how much she gets dicta round she will tell you a lot. These girls that are robbing people with their boyfriends they pretty much figured out how easy it is to take candy from scaredy cats but of course as the gentleman that was connected to the street at the beginning noted or as we know it not all men are scary cats and sometimes you can get them in trouble. Sounds like they didn't get beat up too bad.
[QUOTE=BurlyFish;5120737]Also wonder why StG has yet to take down there add I understand how it is just one persons word but when this one person has never reported before it should hold some merit.[/QUOTE]You have to report the ad. It takes time. And they require some evidence that it's not just some unfounded vendetta. I reported her and she's been blocked:
[QUOTE=HospyPro;5122620]" yeah for those Indiana Jones types That take problem situations into their own hands. A lot of us unfortunately have been raised with no calluses are know hands to hand combat. That's not to say if it were life-and-death we wouldn't find some inner fortitude we didn't know existed. But the scammers know how it's like taking candy from a baby ripping off hobbyists.[/QUOTE]I appreciate your lengthy post. Lots of food for thought.
The main thing I would stress is that I would only resort to violence if I felt threatened. It's just not worth it to me to escalate like that. So I lose $150. Big deal. Once the violence starts, you have no idea where it's going to end. As soon as something goes sour like that, I cut my loss and focus on getting the fuck out. I've already lost that money and some dignity. There's nothing I'm focused on at that moment than getting out.
Of course, I appreciate stories of guys turning the tables like BurlyFish did. Bravo, I say. That's just not the choice I feel comfortable making.
Once a date goes sour with a dude popping up like that, I'll get safe, and focus on how to fuck that person over repeatedly as often as I can.
[QUOTE=Flagrant;5123022]I appreciate your lengthy post. Lots of food for thought.
The main thing I would stress is that I would only resort to violence if I felt threatened. It's just not worth it to me to escalate like that. So I lose $150. Big deal. Once the violence starts, you have no idea where it's going to end. As soon as something goes sour like that, I cut my loss and focus on getting the fuck out. I've already lost that money and some dignity. There's nothing I'm focused on at that moment than getting out.
Of course, I appreciate stories of guys turning the tables like BurlyFish did. Bravo, I say. That's just not the choice I feel comfortable making.
Once a date goes sour with a dude popping up like that, I'll get safe, and focus on how to fuck that person over repeatedly as often as I can.[/QUOTE]This is exactly right. If you do engage these people physically, you will lose, even if you prevail. Self defense is still self defense, but in the course of performing an illegal act (prostitution) your life will be ruined. If you have anything to lose, walk away.