You made me think and I had to give my two cents.
[QUOTE=JZLizard;3109284]I think you're right that there is commonality among the reasons each of us partake in the bowl. Usually, it seems, there are two broad categories of guys here: those that are single and using the bowl as an extension of dating, or those that have an SO but are missing something at home. I'm content with my SO and not missing anything. All relationships have disagreements and such, but overall I can't complain about her. My weakness is when either I travel or she travels -- the idea of burying my nose in a book to occupy the time always seems to lose out to the idea of burying my cock in some hot young girl. Problem is, in order to do so requires some amount of preparation work (especially if you weed out the girls that insist on talking money up front, because it narrows your list of choices somewhat). Then I find myself bothered by the amount of time and effort it takes to catalog POTS, keep notes on who is who, and do the mental sorting and juggling dance of who is who in each city.
The dating and sex of course is fun, and even reminiscing about it brings back fond memories, but I have not convinced myself it's worth it overall. Honestly if someone said I could take a pill right now that would subdue my craving for strange pussy and stick to my SO I'd go for it in a heartbeat. Until then I just kind of hang on until hopefully one day neither she nor I travels, or maybe even with all my planning I end up getting some sort of wake up call that inspires me to stop doing this.
It might sound like BS but I really do want to stop.[/QUOTE]I think deep down I want to stop also, and often question if it's worth it? With a SO, I also consider just going back to seeing the occasional pro. Which for me is a lot easier and less risky. But I guess that's just not the way we are wired as men. At least the type of men here, which I like for the most part. And I think most on this site are good decent guys who deep down really like woman and the sexual joy they can provide. My home life is sexless now but I am not sure that matters, because when I was younger (60 now) - my wife and I had a great time, she was super hot and all was good. But every time I was out of town, which was often, all I could think about was strange pussy and how to get it. And it has just carried on my entire life, I have never changed and probably never will, but yes I would probably take that pill also!
My guess is JZ that you are a very successful person and it's just the way you roll. But given your make up and as you say when you travel or your SO is away. Your not reading a book your on the prowl. I am convinced that driven successful men are that way and they don't want to sit on the pouch and pet the dog, and I love my dogs. My SO is leaving in a couple weeks and I am working hard in the SB to set up meets. I guess the real difference today is the access we have to woman. Both pros and the SA type sites. And lets face it, previous civilizations did not have the ability to find young hot woman who want to fuck them. This is truly remarkable when you think about it. I guess my point is, how many men given this candy, could seriously say they would never think about doing it or actually doing it. Have been on SA for a little over a month. I can tell you what you already know, it's extremely ADDICTIVE. Especially for a man with my weaknesses. .
I've had my best year o banging at age 48 !
[QUOTE=Reman3289;3129359]I think deep down I want to stop also, and often question if it's worth it? With a SO, I also consider just going back to seeing the occasional pro. Which for me is a lot easier and less risky. But I guess that's just not the way we are wired as men. At least the type of men here, which I like for the most part. And I think most on this site are good decent guys who deep down really like woman and the sexual joy they can provide. My home life is sexless now but I am not sure that matters, because when I was younger (60 now) - my wife and I had a great time, she was super hot and all was good. But every time I was out of town, which was often, all I could think about was strange pussy and how to get it. And it has just carried on my entire life, I have never changed and probably never will, but yes I would probably take that pill also!
My guess is JZ that you are a very successful person and it's just the way you roll. But given your make up and as you say when you travel or your SO is away. Your not reading a book your on the prowl. I am convinced that driven successful men are that way and they don't want to sit on the pouch and pet the dog, and I love my dogs. My SO is leaving in a couple weeks and I am working hard in the SB to set up meets. I guess the real difference today is the access we have to woman. Both pros and the SA type sites. And lets face it, previous civilizations did not have the ability to find young hot woman who want to fuck them. This is truly remarkable when you think about it. I guess my point is, how many men given this candy, could seriously say they would never think about doing it or actually doing it. Have been on SA for a little over a month. I can tell you what you already know, it's extremely ADDICTIVE. Especially for a man with my weaknesses. .[/QUOTE]For the most part all thanks to SA! It makes it all too easy!
There is hope on the other side
[QUOTE=PecanSandy;3112740]When I first learned of these boards I was beginning my final pshych. Paper for college. The reason I chose this topic. I never thought to much about the hobbie itself. Often though maybe it could be legalized. Until MY best girlfriend of 20 years. Her family was destroyed. A great family that had it all with very good looking middle aged parents who had some extra $ and really took care of themselves. They got along great. The Mom (my second mom) is Beautiful and often is asked by strangers if she is the mom or the daughter. Well all it took was one broken condom to reveal what had been going on. He brought something home and she got sick.
The father is responsible for all the pain he has caused and he is more depressed with the mess he caused than the wife is about the divorse. I worry about him taking his life. Imagine daddys little girl who grows up into a georgous young women and now she hates you?
This began as a bachelor party OOOps, when he had something to drink and some buddies encouraging it. Then became an addiction that he hatred. He could not get out. I said each time he was never going to do this again and in 2-3 days he was on shopping again. He knew he was in addiction and he knew he was going to mess everything up, but could not stop. Its the addiction to chemicals released from the excitment and mostly from the risk! This is why guys get more risky over time. Please guys, be careful, wean down and reduce your habbit slowly if you want to get out.[/QUOTE]Wow. This is a fear that constantly nags me. That this hobby will take me down. I will ruin someone else's life and potentially take my own. Sometimes this random thought comes to me out of nowhere and I get extremely anxious.
Anyway, the good news for me is that I am slowly cutting back. Today is difficult. I have some cash on me, and some time on my hands, and I'm fairly backed up. All said, a lethal combination. I just continue to remind myself that the feeling does go away if I ignore it. Overall, I can say that I'm getting better at controlling my urges. With the exceptio and of going all out on my birthday (saw 2 different providers), I'm on day 15. The fantasies still haunt me, but so do the ideas of the consequences. There is hope that we can see the other side of this. Staying vigilant!
Ah yes. . the good old days.
Liked your post a lot and you really hit on it with me when you mentioned the good old days and picking up women in bars. I was very addicted to that game once as well and loved the hunt / chase as you say. I am a tall guy - 6'5" - which never hurts with women and I had some game in my day. Loved going on the road back in those days, I guy could get laid almost any night. I can't believe what's in bars most nights today, looks more like a men's room. I think the AIDS thing early 80's is what really spoiled that party. Anyway, this SD / SB thing seems a bit of a carry over from that habit to this one.
Funny. Before I got into the sugar dating, I often tried to use the old game a bit on the road, going into higher end bars / restaurants for happy hour, that seems to be the only time you see many woman out anymore, at least the MILF's I was targeting. I was out a few week and looking around at an environment like just mentioned, think Bonefish Grill if you have one in your market, and the women I used to look at and think about hitting on just were not so appealing anymore. I mean all I could think of is why would I spend time and money chasing this when I can go dip in the sugar bowl and find a nice looking 20/30 something that I can screen in the looks dept and has none of the baggage of life that most of the 40+ ladies have and will fuck me senseless? Kind of nuts that we can do this but it's a very efficient online marketplace.
I also like your comment about "managing your addiction" and giving your self an occasional reward. I think that is where I am at these days. Let's face it, an obsession with anything, sex, food (which these days seems epidemic to me), alcohol, drugs, sports (same as food if you ask me), politics, religion. You name it, any of these can be a problem. Balance in your life is a good thing! And I know some on here want to get as much as possible out of the sugar bowl and more power to them. If single I would most likely do the same. But for me, given the time investment required. And my libido, I have decided that one or twice a month is going to be my goal and yes I have a SO, so view my comments from that perspective. Problem is my current SB wants to play two times a week at least and I know she's in it for the money just as I am it it for the sex, but she does have big O's with me which I love of course, and so not all bad on her end either. I like her but I guess the connection is mostly sexual. A little hard for me to always connect with a lady half my age, and the 30 year old mindset today is not the same as a 30 year old woman in my time. In this society, none of these millennials every have to grow up and that is not a good thing. So I am going to look for a SB that wants to meet maybe once or twice a month - 3 X at the most and of course is not BSC. I just don't have the time and energy for anything else. At least that's the plan today. Stay tuned.
[QUOTE=JZLizard;3129817]It is certainly addictive. Although, it's a stop and go addiction for me. If I travel or the SO travels, I find myself bored and with a tendency toward mischief. The rest of the time, to be absolutely honest, I don't look forward to my next travel excursion, my SO's next trip, or my next SB meeting. In fact, every time I start my website accounts back up, I have to motivate myself to do so, because the process of searching for girls and filtering it down to the ones I want is a lot of work and a task I don't really look forward to.
This is one reason I have been seriously considering giving up SBs altogether, and maybe just sticking to the occasional hunt for strippers. I love the spontaneity of randomly going in a strip club and trying to line up some fun -- if it happens it happens but if not, then I just tell myself well I really shouldn't have been trying to do that anyway. The processing of hunting for, sorting, and arranging dates with SBs wears on my conscience a bit more and for that reason I am increasingly telling myself I should just try to stop. I sometimes wish the bar scene was like it was before the Internet, where easy women hung out in bars and clubs regularly instead of meeting people on computers and smartphones. Then, if you wanted to roll the dice you could just wander into one of these places and try to hook up a one night stand, the thrill of the hunt was the fun part. The bar scene has changed a lot now, online dating has reshaped how and why people go to these places as well as reshaping the places themselves. They aren't as good for spontaneous hookups as they used to be, while strip clubs still are what they are.
I actually seem to be getting closer to my SO the longer I'm with her. A good relationship takes a lot of time to build, only minutes to destroy, and a lot of people go through their entire lives without even having the chance at one. So why am I undermining one of the things in my life that's most important to me? I'm very happy with her so increasingly this hobby makes less sense for me.
I don't know. I have an increasing level of thoughts along these lines, I just hadn't really thought about airing them here at any level of detail, because I think it's not where most SDs are with this. A guy who is unsatisfied with his wife, for sexual reasons or any other, is in a very different place with all this than I am.
I've always thought one of the keys to effectively managing addictions (controlling them instead of them controlling you) is to not try to impose difficult rules upon yourself. For example, if someone wants to stay physically fit, then stay disciplined most of the time, but don't make hard rules like "I can never, ever eat sweets of any kind". By giving yourself an occasional well-managed reward, you relieve a certain amount of pressure and thus make it easier to maintain your discipline on the larger goal.
So I'm not 100% sure that formerly making a commitment to myself to stop is necessarily the right thing to do. If I thought it was, I probably would have already done it. It's something I'm still thinking about (a lot lately actually).[/QUOTE]
Some advice from a guy who follows his own advice imperfectly
If you want to quit, here is some advice. And if you don't want to quit, that's ok, you may ignore this. Now, in practice I've never really quit, but I have managed to slow down or quit for long periods.
1. Be good at budgeting. It includes not only monthly expenses but yearly expenses for which you have to save. Understanding my budget was why I recently quit being a sugardaddy; the SB took too much. (I'll admit that being an SD is great if you can afford it.).
2. Keep a record of what you spend.
3. Throw away the burner phone! This simple idea has worked extremely well for me. I distinguish between "spontaneous" acts and "deliberate" acts. If it's super easy to contact a girl (SB), I'll do it when the mood strikes me. But if there's a barrier (the deliberate act) I can usually stop. Now, someone here will point out there are apps or websites that make it trivial to work around the need for a burner phone. I don't want to hear it, LOL. (Ignorance is bliss here.) Well, if you implement such a workaround it would require a deliberate act. By the way, jumping in the car to see a BP girl whose pic is most likely fake requires a deliberate act, which explains the complaints such girls have about guys getting cold feet.
4. Other misc ideas: have a curfew, avoid street prostitutes (easy since there are hardly any nowadays), don't mix alcohol or drugs with the pursuit of sex, and adhere to safe sex.
5. Best advice: get married or find a girlfriend.
6. Embrace getting old. I'm in my mid-50's and actually like slowing down.
Fall Down 7 Times. Get Up Eight
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I quit smoking. This shouldn't be so damn hard.[/QUOTE]I used to bite my nails. Thank God I was able to quit. My life is better now.
I used to be addicted to nose spray. Thank God I was able to quit. My life is better now.
I used to be addicted to alcohol. Thank God I was able to quit. My life is better now.
I used to be addicted to drugs. Thank God I was able to quit. My life is better now.
I used to be addicted to cigarettes. Thank God I was able quit. My life is better now.
I used to be addicted to caffeine. Thank God I was able to quit. My life is better now.
This. This IS hard. But I'm not giving up. Just need more patience and wisdom.
There are plenty of folks out there that have quit this one and even tougher vices. One day I hope to say I was able to quit this one too.
Is it really addiction or is it just how mother nature made us?
I am in my 70's and have struggled with the sex addition concept. I have been mongering for the last 5 years (since my wife gave up cooking and sex) and have at least 300 encounters so far. I simply have a compulsion to release into beautiful young girls. It is just natural. Mother nature gave us this wonderful equipment and it is our god given duty to use it. This goes for both men and women. I feel wonderful after each release. How is that wrong? The only problem I have is that I don't have enough money to do all the girls I would like to do and that age is slowing me down (thank god for viagra. Truly a miracle drug!) Later this month I have a trip to Buenos Aires where I have a 19 year old guide and novia lined up for 10 days! Talk about an intensive Spanish class. I plan to keep releasing as long as I can. Keeps the prostate healthy, good exericse, and you meet a lot of wonderful girls! I hope some of you agree with me. LG Huntsville Alabama.
Hello! My Name is Cephlapod Love, I am a --- Sorry I am late to the meeting!
What is the definition of a Sl*t? An addict?
How many days one had sex in a month qualifies?
How many different partners fits those definitions?
Is binge fucking a symptom? Numerous girls in one day?
Is it possible I am one?