What time do most of the woman show? I have been there around 4-5 pm and there have not been any woman. Thanks.
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What time do most of the woman show? I have been there around 4-5 pm and there have not been any woman. Thanks.
Tip Itin,
I think I might be the only guy on this forum that's into Femdom. Send me a PM with some specifics about what sort of BDSM activities you're into, and I'll try to help you out. I know a few Dommes.
Gooch
[QUOTE=Tip Itin]Hi I'm a Newcomer,
I'm not a cop/moral crusader/ or spy. I thank you all for the info on this fourm. I enjoy a little female domination (pro dominatrix) any info on that here?[/QUOTE]
Hey HG :)
Unfortunately, there is very little usable info out there on Dommes. They are generally pretty secretive in their advertising, since they really need to weed out the undesireables. There are guys that are into BDSM, but there are more guys that are into it for the wrong reasons. In other words, sicko's.
BDSM is a unusual in that there are so many aspects of it, and not all Dommes are into all aspects. In fact, many have more limits than they do preferred activities. Weigh into that the fact that a Domme's personality has ALOT to do with how a session plays out, since it is for the most part a psychlogical activity. It's really tough to learn the territory. I spent over 5 years in it actively, and never really found exactly what I was looking for. I know some incredible dominant ladies, and had alot of fun with them, but not one of them could fulfill all my needs. And at $2-300 per session, that's a problem. It's alot more complex than just picking one from a website. I could recommend 12 Dommes to this guy, and he will probably be dissatisfied with 11 of them. Normally I try not to help out the newbies too much, but in this case I am making an exception. I understand his plight.
Gooch
[QUOTE=HappyGardener]I used to know one here in town, but I think she retired. I never saw her for that type of action, but knew her more on a social level. There also used to be some that advertised in The Reader, Gentlemans Pages and Chicago After Dark.
Also look for a website called Collarme, or Collar something. Seriously dude, Google Chicago Doms or variation of the above and I think you will find what you are looking for.[/QUOTE]
I've never seen so many people cry foul about a report before. all you have to know is it is in the town of Harvey people! Harvey is the wild wild west and puts Ford Heights to shame...well almost. it certainly puts chicago heights to shame. harvey cops are in on the take no matter what gang is pushing what drug. just pick up a paper!
[url]http://www.wbbm780.com/pages/3418496.php?[/url]
Harvey is corrupt to the bone! You could have pics, videos, and the whole 9 and it won't matter. Why? Because it is harvey. Seriously, folks just don't know how corrupt that town is. And if you want to know hit a block around 154th and turlington off of wood st. Realize the ghetto. Ain't nothing changin in that town. The strip clubs are on of the few sources of income for that town and they're all over places that do.
If it was any other place in any other town (save for Ford Heights) I would agree with those who have their panties in a bunch but come on! It's Harvey! End of story.
[QUOTE=Tip Itin]Hi I'm a Newcomer,
I'm not a cop/moral crusader/ or spy. I thank you all for the info on this fourm. I enjoy a little female domination (pro dominatrix) any info on that here?[/QUOTE]Have you looked up Chicago Illusions?
They advertise in some pages Gentlemen might read.
[QUOTE=Deep Subman]What time do most of the woman show? I have been there around 4-5 pm and there have not been any woman. Thanks.[/QUOTE]so 4-5pm must be one the real idle hours, When I went it was about 9pm, There were about 6 girls working then, I think it was still fairly early for them, If I remember right it was a Thuursday. I try and be cool but I'm still not sure I want to be in Harvey at 1am. But at 9pm I had no problem.
Chicago Illusions is the "jackshack" of the BDSM scene. Bait and switch.
[QUOTE=Chubbybear]Have you looked up Chicago Illusions?
They advertise in some pages Gentlemen might read.[/QUOTE]
Eros-chicagocom has B&D listings.
I can vouch for chicagomistresses.com being legit and having some great looking doms.
[QUOTE=Chubbybear]Have you looked up Chicago Illusions?
They advertise in some pages Gentlemen might read.[/QUOTE]I have a very dear friend of mine who was a dom who worked there for a short time the place is legit. She had a 2 hour drive to get there is the only reason she quit.
First off, I don't have any problems with the BDSM lifestyle. Some of it seems appealing and I have considered participating but never pulled thew trigger.
They seem so eager to talk about what's NOT going to happen (No Prostitution!), so I'm not sure what WILL happen.
- will I been nude/exposed?
- will she be nude exposed in any way?
- can i touch her?
- will she touch me?
- is it ok if I get "aroused"?
- any relief at the end of the session?
I know, I know - I should TOFTT! I feel like one of the newbie asking about "what goes on at AMPs?" Well in this case I have done my research and I cannot find any detailed descriptions about what goes on in the dungeons. No BDSM review sites that I have found.
Without implicating any specific dungeon, is anyone willing to discuss their experiences?
I had this great dream I picked up a girl named Tracy along the road (30) yesterday. Gave her a ride back to my place. Got a BBBJ for. 30 and got to feel her up while she was nude she had a little baby bump. Said she was pregnant which made it twice as sexy. I really need to start taking pics. Wanted me to take her to go get a fix but I passed I wasn't about to run around looking for junk.
Still on a roll I took a ride up to arnies a bit later around 12. Got what I was looking for within 10 minutes of being there they don't play games. But watch your pockets a friend of mine had some money lifted out of his. They are pros be careful.
You will be nude
She will not be but may expose things to you after a few sessions
If she allows body worship you will be allowed to kiss the parts of her body that she allows, usually feet, legs, and maybe ass.
She can touch you anywhere
She expects you to be visibly aroused
Self service is allowed at the end of session.
These are pretty general answers as always YMMV but you shouldn't expect more going in to a session. Sometimes more happens after you get to know her better, sometimes not. There is such a wide array of activies that take place within b&d and s&m that much of the interaction and fun depends on mutual interests and chemistry.
Go through all the B&D ads on eros reading them through carefully and check out the website links to the dungens some of the girls work at and you will get a better feel for what is going on.
When you read a bunch of ads you will get a feel for a seperation between doms who seem real strict, angry and mean vs those who come off as more sensual in their approach and words. I have found that many of the strict doms are man haters with a lot of issues, and the more sensual ones enjoy more teasing with a softer approach. I recommend the more sensual doms.
Be careful of girls on CL who advertise dome sessions, for many of them it is just a ploy to get you and they have no knowlege of that type of play.
[QUOTE=PittPanther]First off, I don't have any problems with the BDSM lifestyle. Some of it seems appealing and I have considered participating but never pulled thew trigger.
They seem so eager to talk about what's NOT going to happen (No Prostitution!), so I'm not sure what WILL happen.
- will I been nude/exposed?
- will she be nude exposed in any way?
- can i touch her?
- will she touch me?
- is it ok if I get "aroused"?
- any relief at the end of the session?
I know, I know - I should TOFTT! I feel like one of the newbie asking about "what goes on at AMPs?" Well in this case I have done my research and I cannot find any detailed descriptions about what goes on in the dungeons. No BDSM review sites that I have found.
Without implicating any specific dungeon, is anyone willing to discuss their experiences?[/QUOTE]- will I been nude/exposed? Yes
- will she be nude exposed in any way? Sometimes rare on a first visit
- can i touch her? ymmv very individual usually yes
- will she touch me? Yes but she won’t give you a “happy ending”
- is it ok if I get "aroused"? Oh Yes even if they pretend it not
- any relief at the end of the session? Self done One time in like 20 years I got BBBJ but oh so rare
[QUOTE=Donny Devito]I've never seen so many people cry foul about a report before. all you have to know is it is in the town of Harvey people! Harvey is the wild wild west and puts Ford Heights to shame...well almost. it certainly puts chicago heights to shame. harvey cops are in on the take no matter what gang is pushing what drug. just pick up a paper!
[url]http://www.wbbm780.com/pages/3418496.php?[/url]
Harvey is corrupt to the bone! You could have pics, videos, and the whole 9 and it won't matter. Why? Because it is harvey. Seriously, folks just don't know how corrupt that town is. And if you want to know hit a block around 154th and turlington off of wood st. Realize the ghetto. Ain't nothing changin in that town. The strip clubs are on of the few sources of income for that town and they're all over places that do.
If it was any other place in any other town (save for Ford Heights) I would agree with those who have their panties in a bunch but come on! It's Harvey! End of story.[/QUOTE]No shocker their bro. Its Chicago/IL politics this is the city that works...and our driving force is our corrupt system. I say just go with it.
Will they let a 19 year old in at Arnie's? I know they serve liquor at this establishment, but the security at the place seems rather seedy anyway. Do you think they'd let a 19 year old in if he makes them aware that he's only there to see the girls?
I generally agree with Tip Itin about most Dommes. Most will only let you touch or kiss them in certain ways, and they will tell you what you can or can't do. Let me rephrase... they will tell you what to do. "Kiss my leg from my foot to the top of my thigh". "Kiss each ass cheek once". That sort of stuff. Most are not shy about touching you, but I've found a few that are. Forced DATY is not unusual. I have had happy endings a few times, but I usually paid for it with pain and humiliation. It's usually the less attractive ones that will do that. I found three different fairly hot Dommes that provided a happy endings as a regular part of their activities. Two are no longer around. The other one is an addict who is into extreme play, I wouldn't recommend her except for seasoned pro's. I also had a session with a girl I had seen a few times before, only this time she got drunk, and we had sex. That was great, but she's no longer around. Some insist that you get aroused, and get pissed if you're not. Had that happen many times, it's an act they play. I don't know how she expected me to be aroused with 25 lbs of weights hanging from my balls, but whatever.
And as is the case with everything else, outside of the Chicago area, things are a little more "fun".
[QUOTE=Tip Itin]- will I been nude/exposed? Yes
- will she be nude exposed in any way? Sometimes rare on a first visit
- can i touch her? ymmv very individual usually yes
- will she touch me? Yes but she won’t give you a “happy ending”
- is it ok if I get "aroused"? Oh Yes even if they pretend it not
- any relief at the end of the session? Self done One time in like 20 years I got BBBJ but oh so rare[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chad The Rtf]Will they let a 19 year old in at Arnie's? I know they serve liquor at this establishment, but the security at the place seems rather seedy anyway. Do you think they'd let a 19 year old in if he makes them aware that he's only there to see the girls?[/QUOTE]If you bring your mom they will let you in.
This place seems to getting alot of attn lately so I thought I'd stop in. Opens at 4 but the girls really get there around 8. Nothing new really shows up past 8/9. Fair amount of girls on the weekend pretty much all ebony. Everything from petite and firm to built like a mack truck. Everything on the menu for bargain prices and depending on the girl some real effort goes into the show. Some of the girls can be a bit aggresive. The crowd really isn't bad alot of young homies but theyre really only paying attn to the girls and their drinks.
[QUOTE=Joliet Jack]Hi,
Newcomers are looking too.
There is no way to prove that anyone of us is not a cop/moral crusader/ or spy.[/QUOTE]
Yes, there is a way. Get about a dozen really hot looking women that are very open minded, rent hall or larger suite in a hotel, invite all seniors on this thread to a 3-day free for all (just in case one of us can't make it on any one day) and let us get our nut as many times as we want with the girls. No money is to be exchanged between the seniors, any of the girls, or yourself. That way no laws will be broken.
Only then can we share with you the secret handshake and respond to your inquiries.
Oh yeah, when you are there hosting, wear a piece of duct tape on your shirt so we know it is you.
That's about the only way we will know that you are not a spy. Of course, if you are a spy working for some government agency, this should be easy to arrange. As evidenced in the various recent news headlines, taxpayers don't mind paying for this type of stuff.
This is your first step in a journey of enlightenment.
[QUOTE=LapDogg]... Only then can we share with you the secret handshake and respond to your inquiries.
....[/QUOTE]
LOL!
and .... the secret decoder rings have all be cracked by uncle LEO so we should all send 20 box tops of condom packs to the special address and a new one will be sent out to you..... Stay tuned.... Same Monger Time... Same Monger Channel.
I stopped in this weekend and had a very good time.
My suggestion though is to stay away from the mixed drinks (way too pricey) and go with beer.
Decided to go back to the ol' Crystal palace in Matteson. I really didn't want fs, but I did want a decent massage done on my back. The place was not busy at all. After being escorted to the room by the mamasan, the "door" (read here 'curtain') was opened and a girl in her late 30's entered. A little chubby and not very pretty, but after the sauna and shower (with good attention given to the troops), we returned to the room. I was treated to a better-than-average (on the amp scale) massage and she really worked out the kinks. At the end she changed to a "soft" massage and then the flip.
No real surprises. Nothing more than a hs happy ending.
I've been visiting them off and on since they opened. I miss the original two ladies, as the talent really varies. But it is one of the nicer spa's I've been to. Treat them well and they will treat you well. No extras, but a decent massage, etc. Switching gears, I am working on my 3rd card at Alices Spa on Wentworth. Not bad for the money!
Last Thursday I did a little cruise through Harvey, Phoenix, etc and had no luck whatsoever...the streets were dead!
Chicago Road might be mounting a comeback. Amy did a nice BJ for a reasonable price. Prefers it that way. Maybe 25, small top, but nice body, reasonable skills. Allows touching up top. Nice girl. This was on a Sunday night.
Is a little white guy safe at Arnies at night :)
Drove through the groves off of Sauk Trail, and it was absolutely dead.
[QUOTE=Steevo]Is a little white guy safe at Arnies at night :)[/QUOTE]Just hang out from 8-11, all the girls should be there after 8. The neighborhood crowd doesn't get there till 11. Or just get some special shoes with a switchblade hidden in the toe.
[QUOTE=Steevo]Is a little white guy safe at Arnies at night :)[/QUOTE]I have seen hundreds of little white guys go in Arnies at night.
I have never seen any leave so they must like it a lot.
[QUOTE=Steevo]Is a little white guy safe at Arnies at night :)[/QUOTE]
Not if your so little that the rubber doesn't stay on... that wouldn't be safe.
I was there around Midnight and didn't feel unsafe. Sure, I was the 100% minority, but there was no sense of having to watch my back. Not from the patrons, anyway. The girls will hustle you x3, so take the advice already given and negotiate before even taking a step towards the back.
Does anyone remeber the Squeeze Inn? Was on Rte 30 in the Hts. Just a little bar but - man what went on inside was "fun".
[QUOTE=Chi Irish1]Does anyone remeber the Squeeze Inn? Was on Rte 30 in the Hts. Just a little bar but - man what went on inside was "fun".[/QUOTE]
It was a cool place. Most of the girls were quite affectionate and friendly. But Uncle did not see it that way and they kept getting pinched. I never personally even saw an illegal act. Makes me wonder how Jimmy's survives and whom they pay off.
I am speaking from ignorance. I know what CL is. I have even been there. I ask only because I respect my fellow mongers, since over the years this forum has been so good at providing me with information. Is CL worth it? All I ever see about it is guys that have tried it either being ripped off or the girls not bothering to show. Or at least a few times a month there is a story about a big bust somewhere from cops pulling CL stings. Like other mongers, I have been tempted. But it's like seeing an unfamiliar movie being panned by both critics and customers. I probably would not waste my money. In this case, it seems to me you either waste a lot time, lose a lot of money, or get busted. So is it worth it? Does anyone have positive experiences, such as the girl really does have fashion model looks with a large chest, and fucks like she has missed it for years.
[QUOTE=Chi Irish1]Does anyone remeber the Squeeze Inn? Was on Rte 30 in the Hts. Just a little bar but - man what went on inside was "fun".[/QUOTE]
That was a great place and I miss it. In fact, to me it was more like cheers bar. I could always go there, relax, get a couple of drinks, a few dances. Man I miss that place. I went to Jimmys just a couple of times. Now the place I go to is Black Cherri in Gary.
[QUOTE=Ump1969]I am speaking from ignorance. I know what CL is. I have even been there. I ask only because I respect my fellow mongers, since over the years this forum has been so good at providing me with information. Is CL worth it?[/QUOTE]
Only very, very occasionally these days. There are diamonds in that rough, but they are getting rarer and rarer now. The signal to noise ratio has gotten worse by an order of magnitude over the past 2 or 3 years. Honestly, I don't bother with it anymore. Opinions vary, this is mine.
[QUOTE=LapDogg]Not if your so little that the rubber doesn't stay on... that wouldn't be safe.[/QUOTE]
ROFL! That is a good one...
It's been about a year since I've used CL, but I've been browsing the past couple of weeks and it looks about the same as it ever was. About the only consistent thing I've noticed about CL is the ever-present howling over how bad it's "gotten lately. " If the complaints are to be believed, the place would have flat-lined the better part of a decade ago. Perhaps the problem is expectations of a high return on little investment.
Clearly, whether it's worth it is subjective in this sense. There are a lot of parallels between CL and the street scene. You have to spend some time there getting a feel for the place. You should be able to spot the regulars, even though the turnover is fairly quick for the most part. You should get a feel for the types of ads that just. Don't. Feel. Right. For some reason. You need to do your homework on the provider's phone number.
I'll confess ignorance on the prevalence of LE busts. I know that concern for that is always prudent in the hobby, and I remember people getting hysterical about stings in the past. Off-hand, though, I don't remember any prolonged, in-depth stings being performed by any of the local LE agencies. I'm not an expert, but in my opinion the CL traffic rates pretty low on LE's radar. I would venture the opinion that the providers are probably more likely to be busted by an undercover 'john' than a hobbiest getting caught in an elaborate sting set-up. The CL traffic has much more in common with the pro-with-a-website type of provider than it does with the street scene, and the LE harassment of the pros is negligible. Nobody gets their panties in a knot as long as that stuff goes down behind closed doors and nobody makes a scene. Hell, the hotels probably [i]rely[/i] on this traffic. None of this is to say that care needn't be taken, or that you shouldn't trust your instincts, should they tell you something's up.
I did the street-prowling thing years ago--people back then were complaining how the pickings were slimmer than they had ever seen before, precisely as they are today, I note--I've done the massage parlors, and I've done the big league pros. Almost all of my favorites have been from CL. I can remember seeing over a dozen different providers from CL offhand, not a huge number I know, but I was never busted, upsold, or conned. The worst thing that happened to me was sloppy scheduling on the provider's part, so I wound up with her partner instead of waiting for her to finish up. I wound up going back and seeing the first one the next time, and damn, it was worth it.
All of these different hobby incarnations have their advantages and disadvantages, and probably their ups and downs as well. I never really enjoyed the mps, and the streets were too cyclical: my luck depended on the stretch I was cruising, the time of day, the day of the week, the time of year, all of that plus constant LE. The pros are good, but I think that CL has just enough of the feel of the streets to keep me interested. You're never entirely sure what you're going to get--not like the pros who have been reviewed to death and you feel like you know them before you even meet.
My two cents. God I love this place, I had actually forgotten about it until tonight. I guess I'm getting in the mood to TOFTT on CL.
Happy hunting to all.
[QUOTE=Chi Irish1]Does anyone remeber the Squeeze Inn? Was on Rte 30 in the Hts. Just a little bar but - man what went on inside was "fun".[/QUOTE]
Lots went on in the Squeeze Inn. Full-on lappers with lots of breast play, and the occasional thru-the-pants tug.
Mostly it was women marketing for dates outside the establishment.
I got several offers and numbers/e-mails. Only followed up on one. Ended up taking her out to a diner. Seemed too much like a real date, so I ditched her before she got my personal info.
I was there this afternoon. Nice place, strange music. I had a sauna, table shower, massage. I only saw Sue there. She was a nice, attractive lady. It was kind of funny because she kept telling me to cover up, even during the massage. When I suggested letting down my cover, she wouldn't do it. And of course, While I was praying for some attention to be given to the boys, none was given.
Why is it so difficult to find a provider who will give a massage with extras? Please PM me with your suggestions.