Another perspective on Sara TT, from one who's seen her
[QUOTE=BlueJacks60;6221824]I saw Sara TT for the second time this past week and the experience is fantastic. She is very hot woman, and cool person to meet, that will leave you beyond satisfied.[/QUOTE]For the sake of balance: a contrary report on Sara TT. She is one of those providers who has a passionate following here, and the men who like her tend to have some unique tastes.
I saw her in 2010,12 years ago, based on all the rave reviews. At that time, she was already pushing 40. (She's just a few years younger than I am.).
She was "not bad", in my estimation, but not comparable to some of the younger women that Discreet Desires had going at the time (such as Tai in her then 20-something state). And definitely not comparable to what I was getting on the sugar daddy sites back then.
I had an okay time, but I did not repeat.
Sara TT is now either 50, or pushing 50, if you do the math. While I'm sure that's a treat for the World War II veterans on the board, as a 50-something myself, I'm looking for someone younger.
I'm aware of the fascination with "MILFs" and middle age women among some hobbyists. To each his own. Just be aware, before you contact Sara, that a 50-ish MILF is what you'll be getting. Sara is *not* a good choice if you're looking for a younger or youngish provider.
Here's another perspective.
[QUOTE=ToddCincy;6224041]For the sake of balance: a contrary report on Sara TT. She is one of those providers who has a passionate following here, and the men who like her tend to have some unique tastes.
I saw her in 2010,12 years ago, based on all the rave reviews. At that time, she was already pushing 40. (She's just a few years younger than I am.).
She was "not bad", in my estimation, but not comparable to some of the younger women that Discreet Desires had going at the time (such as Tai in her then 20-something state). And definitely not comparable to what I was getting on the sugar daddy sites back then.
I had an okay time, but I did not repeat.
Sara TT is now either 50, or pushing 50, if you do the math. While I'm sure that's a treat for the World War II veterans on the board, as a 50-something myself, I'm looking for someone younger.
I'm aware of the fascination with "MILFs" and middle age women among some hobbyists. To each his own. Just be aware, before you contact Sara, that a 50-ish MILF is what you'll be getting. Sara is *not* a good choice if you're looking for a younger or youngish provider.[/QUOTE]So, looks like your entire perspective of Sara is based on a single visit you had about 10 years ago. Well, a lot can change in 10 years, including aging of course, and you are probably right that she's pretty close to 50.
Well, I have seen her many times, as recently as a few months ago. She has the body (and pussy) of a 30-year old; one of the best I have ever come across. You can see her age in her face, specifically in her forehead. Also, technically, she's not a MILF, because she's never had kids. Probably the reason she maintains her body (and pussy) in such good condition. In addition to her appearance, she has a very strong sex drive and provides an ultimate GFE including a trip to the Greek isles. Of all the providers I have seen in OH, her level of service is unmatched.
So, I haven't seen Tai, but I have seen many providers such as Tai (in her prime) when I was living in a different State. However, when I look at her profile now on Tryst, I don't find her attractive. But I take one look at Sara, in person, junior comes to immediate attention!
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You're right about Tai (aka Janae) today
[QUOTE=HTownHobbyist;6224553]So, looks like your entire perspective of Sara is based on a single visit you had about 10 years ago. Well, a lot can change in 10 years, including aging of course, and you are probably right that she's pretty close to 50.
Well, I have seen her many times, as recently as a few months ago. She has the body (and pussy) of a 30-year old; one of the best I have ever come across. You can see her age in her face, specifically in her forehead. Also, technically, she's not a MILF, because she's never had kids. Probably the reason she maintains her body (and pussy) in such good condition. In addition to her appearance, she has a very strong sex drive and provides an ultimate GFE including a trip to the Greek isles. Of all the providers I have seen in OH, her level of service is unmatched.
So, I haven't seen Tai, but I have seen many providers such as Tai (in her prime) when I was living in a different State. However, when I look at her profile now on Tryst, I don't find her attractive. But I take one look at Sara, in person, junior comes to immediate attention![/QUOTE]Tai is now pushing 40, and she's had one of those ridiculous boob jobs. The attached photos show her when she was in her 20's. (A note of thanks to DNut, for digging those up last year.) I would submit that Tai was quite attractive in 2009, when those photos were originally taken, and Tai was a student at a local university.
But yes, she should have retired by now.
Some hobbyists prefer MILFs for all sorts of reasons. Some guys who have daughters in the 20-something age range just don't feel comfortable being with someone who is in the same age range as their daughters.
Our society has also pushed the idea of the "dirty old man". Some hobbyists doubtless feel shame for lusting after a woman who is decades younger. Isn't that "creepy", according to our popular culture?
And finally, there are hobbyists who have allowed themselves to get out of shape, and just don't feel comfortable getting naked with a 25-year-old.
But a 50-year-old woman? Sure, a hobbyist of any age can reconcile a desire for a 50-year-old woman: with learned guilt, self-esteem issues, or having an adult daughter.
But there is also a such thing as 'conventional beauty standards'. If you remember the golden days of Playboy, you seldom saw 50 year old centerfolds. In fact, you never did. There was a reason for that. Playboy knew that most men were most aroused by younger women between the ages of 18 and 29.
Over on the escort thread, those guys were raving about a provider named Dawn who is 53 years old. 53. Where does it end? Will they be recruiting from nursing homes next?
I made the post about Sara TT because I wish someone would have told me that she was so old in 2010. IMHO, glowing reviews of a 50-year-old provider should include the caveat "great if you happen to like *much* older women. ".
Full disclosure in reviews (SaraTT, Janae, and others)
[QUOTE=TroublePlay;6225427]I agree. I really don't care how old Sara is. Hot body! Fun! Vivacious! Fantastic kisser! Adventurous lover! Fuck bench? Sex swing? Come on.
I am not trying to recapture my youth by banging 20 somethings. I am looking for great sex! In my experience, a woman reaches her prime in her 30's generally.
My regular squeeze right now is approaching 50. Fucks like nobody's business. Head game is extraordinary. I haven't seen Sara for over a year, but I will be going back.[/QUOTE]I realize that Sara TT has quite a following here, and I realize that, for whatever reason, there are guys who simply prefer older women. All fine and good.
The reason I brought this up is because I've been burned in the past by reviews that are glowing, but without relevant details.
Not just Sara, but also "Pretty Cameron". I showed up to see her a few years back, and cancelled on the spot, when I saw how overweight and masculine she was. We both could have been saved the trouble, if at least one of the reviewers had said, "I had a great time with Cameron, but note that she does have quite a belly on her. ".
If a provider is overweight, or over 40, it's good to indicate that so that hobbyists can take that into account before scheduling.
Particularly if incomplete information is in the ad (s). Back to SaraTT. She lists her age as "secret" on P411. And there's a good reason for that. Because lots of guys are going to balk at seeing a 50-year-old provider.
We are a diverse group here, age-wise. I realize that some hobbyists in their 70's won't mind Sara's age. They wouldn't care if Sara was 60. Much of this is relative. My dad is 77. While he doesn't hobby, to the best of my knowledge, he routinely describes 45-year-olds as "kids". And my grandparents described my parents as "kids" when my parents were in their 50's.
But to a 34-year-old hobbyist, an experience with Sara is going to seem like an experience with an aunt or one of mom's friends.
Likewise, the hobbyist who schedules with Janae in 2022, based on her 2009 "Tai" pics is going to be disappointed.
SaraTT should list her age, and Janae should not be using old pics, and claiming (in her late 30's) that she is still in her 20's.
Therein lies the value of thorough reviews that reveal the potential downsides, even if they're downsides that a particular hobbyist is willing to overlook.
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This is why we care about age
[QUOTE=Dillsborodave;6228148]Sara tt has a following because of the service she provides. She is very good and seems to enjoy what she does. She is a few years younger than me and will always be younger than me. I don't get why some of you are so hung up on age. Most of the hot looking young women don't have the same passion for sex. Are you guys just looking for some pretty young thing to stick your dick in or are you looking for an attractive woman who knows how to fuck and suck? As long as the pics are up to date the age of the woman shouldn't matter. But that's just me.[/QUOTE]Based on what you've just said, you and I are both old enough to remember the 1980's, and the movies of Molly Ringwald. Molly Ringwald, born in 1968, is about the same age as me.
Below are two photos: Molly Ringwald in 1988 (age 20), and Molly Ringwald in 2020 (age 52).
I don't need to tell you which is which, because it's obvious. Which Molly would *you* rather f*ck? If you were to take a poll among a hundred random men, what do you think the results would be?
The notion that any pre-menopausal woman just "doesn't know what she's doing" has never been borne out by my experience.
Now, I can see the argument for avoiding very young (18/19) girls, and few of them turn up in the hobby anyway. But why the immediate jump to 40+? What's wrong with 22 to 29?
Not to pick on Sara TT, but she's easily old enough to be a grandmother, and (with 128 reviews going back to 2009), she's got more miles on her than a 1990 Honda Civic.
If forced to choose between "some pretty young thing to stick my dick in" or "a woman who knows how to fuck and suck" based on "x billion served" (per the old McDonald's tagline), I'll take the pretty young thing every time, hands down. I don't even have to pause to think about it. And what that nubile 23-year-old "doesn't know" about sex, I'll be glad to provide the necessary instruction on.
Tiffany Teigan at $500: what do you gentlemen think?
Tiffany Teigan is an HHH escort who meets the Todd Cincy Standard:
-She's conventionally pretty (not overweight / rough).
-While not at the ideal age (19 to 27), she's reasonably young (29 to 31).
-She's verified legit and well-reviewed:
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/tiffany-teigen[/URL]
She's also increased her rate multiple times over the last year. She used to ask $300 to $350. Now she's asking $500 for an incall appointment.
This is my take:
- While Tiffany isn't overpriced in the current market, the current market is objectively overpriced as a whole.
- Most of the escorts on the market today are still from the pre-COVID crowd. There is a shortage at *all* levels: MILFs, young ones, HHHs, etc. We desperately need an influx of new talent.
- There are signs that the general labor market, if not weakening, is at least returning to normal. That means more women looking for ways to make money.
- I look for some new girls to enter the market in the first quarter of next year. That will mean a wider selection and lower prices, according to the laws of supply and demand.
- I'm therefore *not* willing to pay $500 for Tiffany Teigan at this time.
Question:
-Are any of you planning to see Tiffany during her upcoming Cincinnati tour? If so, how do you feel about her new price?
-Or do you agree that $500 is too high, and we should wait for the market to improve?
Should have picked a better celebrity
[QUOTE=ToddCincy;6228213]Based on what you've just said, you and I are both old enough to remember the 1980's, and the movies of Molly Ringwald. Molly Ringwald, born in 1968, is about the same age as me.
Below are two photos: Molly Ringwald in 1988 (age 20), and Molly Ringwald in 2020 (age 52).
I don't need to tell you which is which, because it's obvious. Which Molly would *you* rather f*ck? If you were to take a poll among a hundred random men, what do you think the results would be?
The notion that any pre-menopausal woman just "doesn't know what she's doing" has never been borne out by my experience.
Now, I can see the argument for avoiding very young (18/19) girls, and few of them turn up in the hobby anyway. But why the immediate jump to 40+? What's wrong with 22 to 29?
Not to pick on Sara TT, but she's easily old enough to be a grandmother, and (with 128 reviews going back to 2009), she's got more miles on her than a 1990 Honda Civic.
If forced to choose between "some pretty young thing to stick my dick in" or "a woman who knows how to fuck and suck" based on "x billion served" (per the old McDonald's tagline), I'll take the pretty young thing every time, hands down. I don't even have to pause to think about it. And what that nubile 23-year-old "doesn't know" about sex, I'll be glad to provide the necessary instruction on.[/QUOTE]I wouldn't have fucked Molly Ringworm when she was young. I'm sure you could have found a better celebrity to compare. But on the flip side google attractive women celebrity in thier 50's. But I get it. I don't have a 1990 Honda Civic but I do have a 1998 Ford Ranger that is in good shape, runs good, and I love it.
Tia Taylor + Tiffany Teigan
I have not seen Tia Taylor, but two hobbyists I trust have seen her.
-She is real, and not a scam, etc.
-Her appearance matches her photos.
-There are complaints that she's a little arrogant / standoffish, but basically delivers as promised. YMMV.
-I personally don't want to pay a $100 deposit. Nor am I willing to pay $500 for someone who is in wide circulation. (For $500, I want a college girl.) But it isn't a question of what something is worth, it's a question of what it's worth to *you*.
Tiffany Teigan. I know two hobbyists who have seen her, too.
-She is real, and not a scam, etc.
-Her appearance matches her photos.
-She's raised her price from $350 to $500 since last year. Once again, I'm not paying $500 for someone in wide circulation. I might have seen her at $350.
[QUOTE=LonelyKing;6258924]I am relatively new / young for the hobby, so am looking for the advice / opinions of those with more first hand experience than those on general forums I also follow. I have gotten to the point that I'm wanting to see a higher class of girl rather than the rougher girls. I have narrowed it down to two girls through my research so far; Tiffany Teigen or Tia Taylor. Both have showed up in this thread at one time or another, one pretty recently even.
Here are my thoughts so far for each:
Tiffany [URL]https://tryst.link/escort/tiffany-teigen[/URL].
-A city away (I'm in Cincinnati) but she tours in town occasionally.
-Her screening of requesting a selfie with an I'd seems like a bit much.
-As far as I can tell doesn't require a deposit.
-Has pretty solid, promising reviews.
Tia [URL]https://tryst.link/escort/tiataylor[/URL].
-On my side of town I think (East).
-Both screening and hefty deposit makes me nervous to start the schedule process.
-Has the type of body that makes my other head take over sometimes.
- Practically non-existent reviews, from what I can find at least.[/QUOTE]
Tiffany Tiegen vs Sophia Rose
I have seen both, agreed with the price hike for Tiffany T, however I have found Sophia Rose very accommodating with her pricing. She will allow a half hour visit. And will work to get 2 nuts out of you.
Both ladies are extremely georgous.
Brielle: my past experience, and the state of the market
I saw this one during a dry spell back in late 2018, while in the mood for something "different". You can still find my December 2018 review in the archives. A rare positive review from me, but with some caveats.
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/brielleblake[/URL]
I saw her at $150 for outcall, and several guys at the time pointed out that I was overpaying even at that rate. She had apparently already been on the market for some time, and was doing QVs for under $100.
She was pleasant, clean, and lucid, though a little chubby. I didn't see any signs of using.
Overall, I was *not* disappointed in my $150 experience 4 years ago. But I would not pay $350 for the same experience four years later. As we know, most of the girls who do this live fast and hard, and such lifestyles take their toll over time. I would not be surprised if those photos on Tryst are old, but I can't say for certain.
More evidence that all we are getting now on Tryst is old providers who are attempting to upcharge in the down market. That's why I'm holding on to my money until the supply situation improves.
But for those of you who may be tempted to give Brielle a try: take my past experience FWIW.