Seeking Arrangements

[QUOTE=JohnTies;3854964]Hi guys, with how things are now in escort land since the crap hit the fan am pretty much done with them and all the bs now.

Am going back on SA and going to hunt for some SB's. It has been a few years since I have been on due to having gf and such.

I would treat them well, be a gentleman, and give what I thought was reasonable sugar of 150 on top of paying for hotel, activity or dinner also.

Never had any issues getting some really good girls. How will I do with that tact and sugar price point now?

I have been on looking around and it has changed from when I was last on there.

Lots of I am not a prostitute, etc, etc, etc.

Lots of want you to pay for things and take me out but we're not having sex postings.

Lots of I know what I am worth postings.

I am a princes and you should treat me like one.

WTF! LOL.

So any thoughts, tips, and updates from what I did before that worked without issue?

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]I think any one who says "I am not a prostitute, I want you to pay for things and take me out but we're not having sex, I know what I am worth postings, I am a princes and you should treat me like one. " you should prob block or hide. That also includes the "Strictly Platonic" ones. I do believe we as legit SDs have the numbers right now. I am usually very upfront and state "I'm not interested in dropping a whole month's allowance until I know we like each other. I am going to want some kind of intimacy to evolve starting at the first date (not the meet and greet). " Always use terms like "mutual satisfaction" or "equal benefits".

Ask them what they specifically want financially and if you feel aggressive what they're willing to do. If they want 800 per meet I usually say "Wow you are so beautiful and I really want to meet up but I can't do that amount". And then they come back and say what can you do. I say in the 2-3 range and see what they say back. Most of mine have been in 2-3. 5 range. You'd be surprised how many of the 800's come back a few weeks later and ask if you're still interested and maybe your offer is now okay because they've gotten creeped out or are having no luck.

If someone comes in at 1-2 I usually think something is up. Either a pro, drug addict, or something's not right. But I've heard others have success at that amount.

Other tips:

- Never ever give them money in advance of a date or at a M & G.

- If the profile is blank try being super aggressive. What do you have to lose? They're probably not real right?

- Get their number as quick as possible to do a background check.

Good luck my friend!

[QUOTE=JohnTies;3854529]I have seen Gina Rollins a bunch of times when I go to NYC and when she used to come to Boston every so often many years ago.

She has never let me down and every visit has been a 10+ time. She is a lot of fun and up for anything.

So, when did Gina Rollins do porn, under what name, and where is it posted?

Did not know she did porn, that must be a new thing. Although when I see her it's like I am in a porn, she is one nasty, fun woman.[/QUOTE]My bad. I probably made a poor assumption / association. I do not know that she has done porn for sure.

Mainly on SA, I've been seeing about 300 most want. I don't usually haggle so I'm terrible at finding them and don't respond anymore when they ask for a ridiculous number. Ran across one from Milton that wanted 500 per date. I was shocked. Have not met anyone so far from SA still looking for something reasonable I guess.

[QUOTE=Spill;3855878]My bad. I probably made a poor assumption / association. I do not know that she has done porn for sure.[/QUOTE]Pretty sure she used that name with Visiting Girlfriends too:

[URL]https://www.youporn.com/watch/7787152/beautiful-mother-gina-robbins-exploited-by-landlord/[/URL]

Anyone have any experience with this one? She wants $400 per meet.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/bf260530-a14f-4cc6-9c6c-d8b96de60bdf[/URL]

[QUOTE=BRyan72;3856195]Anyone have any experience with this one? She wants $400 per meet.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/bf260530-a14f-4cc6-9c6c-d8b96de60bdf[/URL][/QUOTE]A few messages then ghost town.

[QUOTE=Spill;3856473]A few messages then ghost town.[/QUOTE]I saw her awhile back, guessing at least 6 months ago. Typical GFE type service. Good head game. One pop and and she was getting dressed. In and out of my house in less than an hour. Probably why I decided not to see her again. Also cakes on a ton of makeup which is a turnoff for me. Nice bod though. Damage was 300 for me back then. At the time I knew she lived close to me but didn't realize how close. She literally walked home. LOL.

[QUOTE=Spike77;3856553] She literally walked home. LOL.[/QUOTE]That should be the reason you don't see her anymore. Don't shit where you eat.

[QUOTE=MattBr;3855952]Pretty sure she used that name with Visiting Girlfriends too:

[URL]https://www.youporn.com/watch/7787152/beautiful-mother-gina-robbins-exploited-by-landlord/[/URL][/QUOTE]She went by the name Raven with visiting girlfriends. Well over a decade ago.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/7307d280-3bfa-4636-b9d0-b4d749adf411[/URL]

800 per meet.

Won't discuss anything in detail and gets annoyed when you push for info.

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3856956]She went by the name Raven with visiting girlfriends. Well over a decade ago.[/QUOTE]Interesting aside about Gina: One time, after I'd left several loads in her pussy and ass on previous visits (because she was only 250 before she got famous when she was still with VG), I was plowing her talented twat with gusto and was about to cum, but I realized that I'd not yet enjoyed dropping a load down her gullet yet. So, that time, I pulled out at the last nanosecond and began to aim it into her mouth, but I slipped, and my cock head accidentally landed under her nose and I shot my big saved-up wad WAY up into a nostril! We both laughed our asses off! Since then, whenever her menu comes up in discussions, I always like to point out that Gina is the only FIVE-HOLE hoe I know!

So she surely wins out, in terms of the number of holes in which to leave a deposit! But only by a nose! And I sure wish I'd gotten pictures of THAT. It would have been a PHOTO FINISH, LOL!

It's mostly GPS and Platonic now. It's nothing like it was 1 or 2 years ago. A lot of info online for SBs where they talk about "getting 5 k a month and not having to do anything sexual" kind of non-sense. It fills their heads with vision of rich, sad losers that are just waiting to be taken advantage of.

Use this rule: the amount above 150-200 is the amount she needs to hold her nose and be with you. The more she has to hold her nose, the lamer the main event will be. And yes, that's also true for the very hottest girls.

Good luck and report back.

[QUOTE=JohnTies;3854964]Hi guys, with how things are now in escort land since the crap hit the fan am pretty much done with them and all the bs now.

Am going back on SA and going to hunt for some SB's. It has been a few years since I have been on due to having gf and such.

I would treat them well, be a gentleman, and give what I thought was reasonable sugar of 150 on top of paying for hotel, activity or dinner also.

Never had any issues getting some really good girls. How will I do with that tact and sugar price point now?

I have been on looking around and it has changed from when I was last on there.

Lots of I am not a prostitute, etc, etc, etc.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;3857129]It's mostly GPS and Platonic now. It's nothing like it was 1 or 2 years ago. A lot of info online for SBs where they talk about "getting 5 k a month and not having to do anything sexual" kind of non-sense. It fills their heads with vision of rich, sad losers that are just waiting to be taken advantage of.

Use this rule: the amount above 150-200 is the amount she needs to hold her nose and be with you. The more she has to hold her nose, the lamer the main event will be. And yes, that's also true for the very hottest girls.

Good luck and report back.[/QUOTE]I agree. Everyones magic number is 300 and some want 500 or even 800 and then its condom blowjobs and my rules than a public pool. I stick to my guns of 150 and in the end it may take awhile but they come around when they realize they can't meet noone. This chick from Bradford was 35 yrs old and wanted 500 because she said she knew what she was worth, I kindly explained to her she's not worth that and if I ever decided to pay 500 it would be to a 18 yr old chick with a hard body and not a 35 yr woman with 2 kids in which she blocked me LOL. But it had to said to knock some sense into these woman but overall its a good site I'm having tons of success at my price point.

[QUOTE=EvilTmp;3857129]It's mostly GPS and Platonic now. It's nothing like it was 1 or 2 years ago. A lot of info online for SBs where they talk about "getting 5 k a month and not having to do anything sexual" kind of non-sense. It fills their heads with vision of rich, sad losers that are just waiting to be taken advantage of.

Use this rule: the amount above 150-200 is the amount she needs to hold her nose and be with you. The more she has to hold her nose, the lamer the main event will be. And yes, that's also true for the very hottest girls.

Good luck and report back.[/QUOTE]Geez--if she has to hold her NOSE, she'll never beat Gina! (Sorry, could not resist that one, since it came right after my post on Gina below, LOL!

[QUOTE=JohnTies;3854964]Hi guys, with how things are now in escort land since the crap hit the fan am pretty much done with them and all the bs now.

Am going back on SA and going to hunt for some SB's. It has been a few years since I have been on due to having gf and such.

I would treat them well, be a gentleman, and give what I thought was reasonable sugar of 150 on top of paying for hotel, activity or dinner also.

Never had any issues getting some really good girls. How will I do with that tact and sugar price point now?

I have been on looking around and it has changed from when I was last on there.

Lots of I am not a prostitute, etc, etc, etc.

Lots of want you to pay for things and take me out but we're not having sex postings.

Lots of I know what I am worth postings.

I am a princes and you should treat me like one.

WTF! LOL.

So any thoughts, tips, and updates from what I did before that worked without issue?

Thanks guys.[/QUOTE]1. You should always treat ladies well.

2. "Lots of I am not a prostitute, etc, etc, etc. " It's money exchange sex. No matter how they want to paint it, they can talk like your gf. If you didn't pay, they will call you and text you, "john, you forgot to leave some money. ".

3. Set your rules. Handle business like you are dealing with a "prostitute". Steer clean from GPS girls.

[QUOTE=MarkIV;3857194]1. You should always treat ladies well.

2. "Lots of I am not a prostitute, etc, etc, etc. " It's money exchange sex. No matter how they want to paint it, they can talk like your gf. If you didn't pay, they will call you and text you, "john, you forgot to leave some money. ".

3. Set your rules. Handle business like you are dealing with a "prostitute". Steer clean from GPS girls.[/QUOTE]OMG on #2 - Excellent point. They always do that.

[QUOTE=KingOfFours;3856956]She went by the name Raven with visiting girlfriends. Well over a decade ago.[/QUOTE]That was a lackluster performance.

[QUOTE=Malibu1980;3857143]I agree. Everyones magic number is 300 and some want 500 or even 800 and then its condom blowjobs and my rules than a public pool. I stick to my guns of 150 and in the end it may take awhile but they come around when they realize they can't meet noone. This chick from Bradford was 35 yrs old and wanted 500 because she said she knew what she was worth, I kindly explained to her she's not worth that and if I ever decided to pay 500 it would be to a 18 yr old chick with a hard body and not a 35 yr woman with 2 kids in which she blocked me LOL. But it had to said to knock some sense into these woman but overall its a good site I'm having tons of success at my price point.[/QUOTE]I've been looking at upgrading my SA account and trying my luck. I am with you.

Is that "they want $300 per lay?" or $300/ month for a couple hookups / month?

$300 will get an excellent lay with a quality pro.

If I am paying for dinner, drinks, transportation or whatever else that puts a lay, and some social banter over dinner, at something like $500.

At $150/ throw (plus dinner and drinks), I am good with that. At that rate, I could bang a many a thousand chicks and it would still cost less than my ex...

[QUOTE=Giantworm17;3857376]That was a lackluster performance.[/QUOTE]I think I was the first one to fuck her bareback as a hoe--I broke her hoe bareback cherry, LOL! At least I know that was the case after she left Oklahoma. That first session was a bit different from the rest. That first time, Gina Robbins/Rollins/Raven balked at bare cock in cunnt that first visit. But by my third visit she was addicted to CIP and CIA and insisted on it! We used to call her, "the human petri dish" LOL!

[QUOTE=WildWalleye;3857389]I've been looking at upgrading my SA account and trying my luck. I am with you.

Is that "they want $300 per lay?" or $300/ month for a couple hookups / month?

$300 will get an excellent lay with a quality pro.

If I am paying for dinner, drinks, transportation or whatever else that puts a lay, and some social banter over dinner, at something like $500.

At $150/ throw (plus dinner and drinks), I am good with that. At that rate, I could bang a many a thousand chicks and it would still cost less than my ex...[/QUOTE]They want 300-500 per lay and you know the performance is going to be garbage because once they get your 500 its off to the next. I would never commit that kind of cash with the unknowns of first time meets. I mean these chicks take these glamour pics they look good then they get here its not the case. I mean why commit to 500 bucks then you meet them and they want to give condom blowjobs which is the most ridiculous thing ever, or there pussy is unshaved and smells like garbage now you can eat it or they just ended there period and start spot bleeding on you and the sheets, they get naked and there skin is all loose and looks like fat bastard from austin powers, have stretchmarks, scars etc. My point is you can't judge someone by a picture with make up and nice tight clothes, there so much more to it when it comes to fucking and I'm not about to waste 500 bucks on girls who arent attractive and they are streetwalker quality so that's why 100-150 is fair and if they don't like it tough shit, like I tell them 3000 woman on the site within 100 miles of me ill be fine finding someone else, not kissing noones ass.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/7aa38624-71e8-4175-8465-252cd7c6e510[/URL]

200 per meet (from way south shore but stays in Dorchester occasionally).

Haven't sampled the goods but she seems down.

[QUOTE=Annderson;3852418][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/1e927513-d4ea-4333-aba1-2164d583105b[/URL][/QUOTE]Classy woman, we met a few times. Intelligent and looking for love.

[QUOTE=Malibu1980;3858556]Here's a fun little fact, its only bragging when you pull these woman with your charm, when your pay them and any asshole in the city with a dick and 300 bucks can fuck them to its really nothing to brag about LOL.[/QUOTE]Where is the "[B]like[/B]" button?

[QUOTE=Spill;3856473]A few messages then ghost town.[/QUOTE]

very nice and intelligent. I feel like she is doing well financially, so I'm surprised to see her on here. I'm not that attracted to her, but I'm sure she would be fun.

Do not see this girl.

Saw her twice. Had a good time. Then she started messaging me like crazy hundreds texts and a similar number of calls in 3-4 days. Started sending me pics of her cats. Very odd. Very attractive, but very weird. This is her 2nd account i've seen, so had probably been kicked off the site before

https://www.seeking.com/member/6add1c6a-a9ec-4dcc-9f95-25dbc173fad0

[QUOTE=FrankShooter87;3860331]Do not see this girl.

Saw her twice. Had a good time. Then she started messaging me like crazy hundreds texts and a similar number of calls in 3-4 days. Started sending me pics of her cats. Very odd. Very attractive, but very weird. This is her 2nd account i've seen, so had probably been kicked off the site before

https://www.seeking.com/member/6add1c6a-a9ec-4dcc-9f95-25dbc173fad0[/QUOTE]Looks like her profile got shutdown. Do you have any screenshots of the pics or her profile or even her display name so we can avoid?

Thanks for the heads up!

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/a491db17-9ce7-4493-a805-bf88fc5411cc[/URL]

My research on her turned up her being arrested for selling heroin. This will be a bad thing for some of you, and although I have a hard time believing it, a good thing for others.

Last night met this 22 yr old Gothic girl off SA. She was interested in our tag team since me and my brother share the profile. We talked last week and wanted 200 but wouldn't send face pics at all so I blew her off, so last night she texts out of nowhere asking what we are doing, I said up front you want to come down, 100 bucks we will do it tonight and she accepted and came down for our tag team, BBFS, into really anything except pics and videos and she was cute. All for 100 bucks. Ill try and upload the link but for some reason since this site came back up I can't upload.

[QUOTE=Spill;3856473]A few messages then ghost town.[/QUOTE]Also under profile Zzzzxxx.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6362f7e3-a439-4444-9595-a876c4802f55[/URL]

[QUOTE=Spike77;3861824]Also under profile Zzzzxxx.

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6362f7e3-a439-4444-9595-a876c4802f55[/URL][/QUOTE]I remember asking her about that and she said that she had a stalker. I did not try to figure out how another profile helped that situation.

[QUOTE=Malibu1980;3861644]Last night met this 22 yr old Gothic girl off SA. She was interested in our tag team since me and my brother share the profile. We talked last week and wanted 200 but wouldn't send face pics at all so I blew her off, so last night she texts out of nowhere asking what we are doing, I said up front you want to come down, 100 bucks we will do it tonight and she accepted and came down for our tag team, BBFS, into really anything except pics and videos and she was cute. All for 100 bucks. Ill try and upload the link but for some reason since this site came back up I can't upload.[/QUOTE]Just copy and paste the link that'll work fine.

[QUOTE=Malibu1980;3861644]Last night met this 22 yr old Gothic girl off SA. She was interested in our tag team since me and my brother share the profile. We talked last week and wanted 200 but wouldn't send face pics at all so I blew her off, so last night she texts out of nowhere asking what we are doing, I said up front you want to come down, 100 bucks we will do it tonight and she accepted and came down for our tag team, BBFS, into really anything except pics and videos and she was cute. All for 100 bucks. Ill try and upload the link but for some reason since this site came back up I can't upload.[/QUOTE]Kool sounds like you had some fun!

[URL]https://www.refinery29.com/2018/07/202426/sugar-daddy-seeking-arrangement-personal-experience[/URL]

[QUOTE=Aardvarks;3857232]OMG on #2 - Excellent point. They always do that.[/QUOTE]I was speaking of my own experience. I am just an ordinary guy that has an ordinary dick. When I meet a woman on [URL]match.com[/URL], if she sleeps with me, she might really like me. When I meet someone from BP, CL or SA, She only wants one thing. Money.

I had that very same conversation with a girl I met last year. We talked, and I told her about my experience with providers. She pointed out, "I am not a hooker, I am not a prostitute. I just need some help now because I am in financial difficulty. " I told her a normal girl from BP will take $100 -150, and that's the amount I usually left at her desk quietly. I could be a sensitive guy. I kept seeing her for 5 months, she would talk like we have some kind of relationship. One time, I forgot to leave her money. And she texted me when I was on my way home. I checked my pocket, and I only have $80. So I drove 10 minutes back to her place and gave her those $80. She didn't say anything. When I got home, I received a few texts from her: "I don't feel like that I can see you anymore. If you respect me, you would stop by ATM and withdraw some money. How can you pay a cheap hooker $150 but only pay me $80? That my friend, is the truth of your relationship with any of those girls.

A prostitute, exchange sex with money. I respect a prostitute, work for her money, nothing to be ashamed of. But the very girl who talked down on prostitutes will value herself, our "relationship", with dollars.

Years pass by, I have my share of encounters. I don't talk with every one of these girls anymore, to me, it's a moot point. I will be respectful, be nice, and treat it like a business. Some guys here like to chat with girls, perhaps give a few directions to the lost souls. I don't. I don't consider myself better than those girls, and certainly, don't believe I can change anything in their lives other than giving them money.

[QUOTE=Aardvarks;3860957]Looks like her profile got shutdown. Do you have any screenshots of the pics or her profile or even her display name so we can avoid?

Thanks for the heads up![/QUOTE]I don't sorry. If I see the account again, I will make sure to screen shot and post. It's been a while, so I don't have them myself anymore. Not surprised she's taken her account down.

[QUOTE=MarkIV;3863490]I was speaking of my own experience. I am just an ordinary guy that has an ordinary dick. When I meet a woman on [URL]match.com[/URL], if she sleeps with me, she might really like me. When I meet someone from BP, CL or SA, She only wants one thing. Money.

I had that very same conversation with a girl I met last year. We talked, and I told her about my experience with providers. She pointed out, "I am not a hooker, I am not a prostitute. I just need some help now because I am in financial difficulty. " I told her a normal girl from BP will take $100 -150, and that's the amount I usually left at her desk quietly. I could be a sensitive guy. I kept seeing her for 5 months, she would talk like we have some kind of relationship. One time, I forgot to leave her money. And she texted me when I was on my way home. I checked my pocket, and I only have $80. So I drove 10 minutes back to her place and gave her those $80. She didn't say anything. When I got home, I received a few texts from her: "I don't feel like that I can see you anymore. If you respect me, you would stop by ATM and withdraw some money. How can you pay a cheap hooker $150 but only pay me $80? That my friend, is the truth of your relationship with any of those girls.

A prostitute, exchange sex with money. I respect a prostitute, work for her money, nothing to be ashamed of. But the very girl who talked down on prostitutes will value herself, our "relationship", with dollars.

Years pass by, I have my share of encounters. I don't talk with every one of these girls anymore, to me, it's a moot point. I will be respectful, be nice, and treat it like a business. Some guys here like to chat with girls, perhaps give a few directions to the lost souls. I don't. I don't consider myself better than those girls, and certainly, don't believe I can change anything in their lives other than giving them money.[/QUOTE]I will say I just met one that I do like to hang with. And gives the best head I've ever had. Can you say DT? I'm not going to share. Is that wrong? We've met twice per week at $150 per visit, and it's f'ing heaven for me. I'm helping her out in other ways too. Giving her rides. Helping around the house. It's great.

Now not sure how to wind things down with the others but not too concerned about that.

I agree this is all business. And the illusion of some sort of sugar benefactor seems to be just that. An illusion. I'm sure there are guys out there who have the bucks to just drop money on girls for platonic times. But let's be real. That's not the majority of the situations on SA.

Just want to give a shout out to all the Seniors for the PMs and advice. Switched over from AMPs and am loving this lifestyle.

She's too young for me but seemed nice. She was very respectful when I said that I like older.

Lynn area,

Link:

[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/48b7871b-c045-ff2a-5016-3d5d7f3a1721[/URL]

[QUOTE=Aardvarks;3863554]I will say I just met one that I do like to hang with. And gives the best head I've ever had. Can you say DT? I'm not going to share. Is that wrong? We've met twice per week at $150 per visit, and it's f'ing heaven for me. I'm helping her out in other ways too. Giving her rides. Helping around the house. It's great.

Now not sure how to wind things down with the others but not too concerned about that.

I agree this is all business. And the illusion of some sort of sugar benefactor seems to be just that. An illusion. I'm sure there are guys out there who have the bucks to just drop money on girls for platonic times. But let's be real. That's not the majority of the situations on SA.

Just want to give a shout out to all the Seniors for the PMs and advice. Switched over from AMPs and am loving this lifestyle.[/QUOTE]I felt I need to change my statement in the other posts. Most of the providers mainly just want money, and money is the base of every possible "relationship".

Like in your case, if you remove money from it, you will see how quickly she stops you at the door. We all had experience that a ATF girl, once she retires, you won't hear anything back from her.

My original thoughts were referring to SA situation. And SA "relationship" is more confusing than seeing girls off BP and CL.

I've been on SA since January. I was on POF, Zoosk, Match, you name it.

SA is totally different. First of all, the quality of the ladies in the looks dept is much better. 2nd, I feel like I am the one in demand. And they are seeking from me.

On the other sites, they were acting like they only want the white knight on the white horse. F**K that.

Its not always a good experience just like there are winners and losers on the new BP sites.

As for a relationship, I think that SA has all levels. Some even say, "I am financially independent and just looking for a LTR. ".

Others come out and say (and a turn off and not necessary to say right up front), "I need help to pay my rent or I'll be kicked out" Which is too much drama.

I have found SA a good experience and especially in Florida where I am heading. There are some exceptional Latinas in their 40's that fit the role of you help me and I help you. With NSA and FWB.

I am not currently looking for LTR. If I were, I would probably go to Europe and bring a mid-forties divorced lady back here and move in with her and shut down the SA and mongering.

Having too much fun right now.

Definitely, if you don't pay, you don't PLAY on SA.

[QUOTE=Aardvarks;3863554]I will say I just met one that I do like to hang with. And gives the best head I've ever had. Can you say DT? I'm not going to share. Is that wrong? We've met twice per week at $150 per visit, and it's f'ing heaven for me. I'm helping her out in other ways too. Giving her rides. Helping around the house. It's great.

Now not sure how to wind things down with the others but not too concerned about that.

I agree this is all business. And the illusion of some sort of sugar benefactor seems to be just that. An illusion. I'm sure there are guys out there who have the bucks to just drop money on girls for platonic times. But let's be real. That's not the majority of the situations on SA.

Just want to give a shout out to all the Seniors for the PMs and advice. Switched over from AMPs and am loving this lifestyle.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PaulSweeter;3864207]I've been on SA since January. I was on POF, Zoosk, Match, you name it.

SA is totally different. First of all, the quality of the ladies in the looks dept is much better. 2nd, I feel like I am the one in demand. And they are seeking from me.

On the other sites, they were acting like they only want the white knight on the white horse. F**K that.

Its not always a good experience just like there are winners and losers on the new BP sites.

As for a relationship, I think that SA has all levels. Some even say, "I am financially independent and just looking for a LTR. ".

Others come out and say (and a turn off and not necessary to say right up front), "I need help to pay my rent or I'll be kicked out" Which is too much drama.

I have found SA a good experience and especially in Florida where I am heading. There are some exceptional Latinas in their 40's that fit the role of you help me and I help you. With NSA and FWB.

I am not currently looking for LTR. If I were, I would probably go to Europe and bring a mid-forties divorced lady back here and move in with her and shut down the SA and mongering.

Having too much fun right now.

Definitely, if you don't pay, you don't PLAY on SA.[/QUOTE]My friend was telling me in FL that men are in demand. Big time, there might be ladies chasing you when you get there. Maybe you need to register as a Sugar babe in that case.