Massage Parlor Reports

OK thanks. Yea a 3 strike-out rule is probably a smart idea. LOL.

I was hoping someone had a good Alice at New Day experience to share to give me some hope.

I read back in this thread to earlier this year and it looks like one guy might have gotten lucky with her but maybe that was a difference Alice.

[QUOTE=SlapNutts;5610711]There are well known places where Anyone (unless you are a total Scumbag) can get whatever you want on the first visit. Other places sometimes more will become available depending on the girl, mostly depends on if you are a good tipper, nice to her, and she feels she can trust you. Sometimes you have to invest a little $$$ to get what you want. However if you're not able to get what you want by the 3rd visit. It's time to move on and try someone else.[/QUOTE]

The new girl Lisa has a very thin spinner type body and Her face is so so. She's NOT my all time favorite looks wise. BUT I'd say She's the best looking AMP girl I'm aware of in Lynchburg at the moment. I know that's not saying much since we usually get Thic Bodied Linebackers, Grannies or worn out Broads in their 40's & 50's. Not sure of her age, I would guess mid to late 20's BUT could possibly be mid 30's. The GOOD, she gives a excellent massage, gave me all my time. The BAD She wants ridiculously HIGH TIPS, She wants A LOT more than the standard for the area. I guess that's why business is slow. Nobody called or walked in the entire time I was there. I won't be going back anytime soon either due to her Outrageously HIGH TIP demands .

I think they are the same person but she told me her name was Linda, nice massage, but way out of my play time budget, she had about a 6 in scar on her right hip, if this is the same lady, only bright spot maybe younger is on the way.

[QUOTE=SlapNutts;5616959]The new girl Lisa has a very thin spinner type body and Her face is so so. I can't say she's my all time favorite looks wise. BUT I'd say She's the best looking AMP girl I'm aware of in Lynchburg at the moment. I know that's not saying much since we usually get Thic Bodied Grannies or worn out hags in their 40's & 50's. Not sure of her age, I would guess mid to late 20's BUT could possibly be mid 30's. The GOOD, she gives a excellent massage, gave me all my time. The ONLY bad I can say is she wants ridiculously HIGH TIPS, She wants A LOT more than the standard for the area. I guess that's why business is slow. Nobody called or walked in the entire time I was there. I won't be going back anytime soon due to the HIGH TIPS wanted.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=CoolWays;5617019]I think they are the same person but she told me her name was Linda, nice massage, but way out of my play time budget, she had about a 6 in scar on her right hip, if this is the same lady, only bright spot maybe younger is on the way.[/QUOTE]Most likely they are the same. I believe last week was when she first started. Apple is the other Broad working there, kinda chunky and dumpy looking. Lisa or Linda is very thin, I didn't get to see her hips BUT sounds like her when you stated "way out of my play time budget". I mean she's probably better than average looking FOR AROUND HERE but nothing special to even think of commanding the Tips she wants. Did you hear someone younger is on the way?

I saw her Saturday. Can confirm the ridiculous budgetary requirements and visual description. Massage left me with some bruising. On he plus side, I did enjoy the TS, and the teasing was quite good. But the flip? Meh. And didn't deliver on what was negotiated. Won't repeat unless I get really desperate, and the. Will only be with my eyes wide open and most of my cash left in the car.

I can't believe I'm saying this but I really miss Coco.

[QUOTE=LurkerA;5617738]I saw her Saturday. Can confirm the ridiculous budgetary requirements and visual description. Massage left me with some bruising. On he plus side, I did enjoy the TS, and the teasing was quite good. But the flip? Meh. And didn't deliver on what was negotiated. Won't repeat unless I get really desperate, and the. Will only be with my eyes wide open and most of my cash left in the car.

I can't believe I'm saying this but I really miss Coco.[/QUOTE]Thanks for reminding me! . Lisa also didn't deliver on what I had negotiated. That's fine, hope she enjoys the extra $20 she suckered out of me because she won't see another dollar from me. I probably would have been a regular if she didn't pull that stunt and her budgetary requirements weren't so rediculous. Coco is missed for sure, she's alot better than what's there now. Time to try somewhere else. Anyone decent working at Timberlake BP or Rainbow?

[QUOTE=SlapNutts;5617906]Coco is missed for sure, she's alot better than what's there now. Time to try somewhere else. Anyone decent working at Timberlake BP or Rainbow?[/QUOTE]I can't comment on those two places, but I did visit New Day recently. Nothing has changed there at all. It's still Emily and Alice. I tried to tell Emily when I saw her that it was time for her to bring in some new blood, but she's genuinely friends with Alice. Bringing in a new girl basically means she has to fire Alice, and she isn't willing to do it because she doesn't want to risk losing the friendship over it even if it is the correct business move.

All that said, Emily is still good company, but if you're looking for something new then you have to look elsewhere.

Have you tried Alice? Any comments about her?

[QUOTE=Citizenv;5618100]I can't comment on those two places, but I did visit New Day recently. Nothing has changed there at all. It's still Emily and Alice. I tried to tell Emily when I saw her that it was time for her to bring in some new blood, but she's genuinely friends with Alice. Bringing in a new girl basically means she has to fire Alice, and she isn't willing to do it because she doesn't want to risk losing the friendship over it even if it is the correct business move.

All that said, Emily is still good company, but if you're looking for something new then you have to look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Citizenv;5618100]I can't comment on those two places, but I did visit New Day recently. Nothing has changed there at all. It's still Emily and Alice. I tried to tell Emily when I saw her that it was time for her to bring in some new blood, but she's genuinely friends with Alice. Bringing in a new girl basically means she has to fire Alice, and she isn't willing to do it because she doesn't want to risk losing the friendship over it even if it is the correct business move.

All that said, Emily is still good company, but if you're looking for something new then you have to look elsewhere.[/QUOTE]From what I've heard, the girls say Emily is difficult to work for. That could be another reason why she keeps Alice around. And I'm sure they are "friends" but Alice probably falls in line and does what Emily says and Alice isn't any competition in the looks Department. Emily likes to be the Queen Bee and center of attention and doesn't like anyone younger or prettier working for her.

I agree Emily is good company, but has to be near 50 years old. I still see her every once in a while , but wish we had some younger better looking talent that didn't have GPS rates.

Don't waste your time or money. Massage was so bad I didn't feel like I even had one. It wasn't even a decent back rub.

Went the other day saw Linda / Lisa whatever her new name is (the old Sunny). She gives a great massage and excellent teasing. But damn get pricing are way to high. Who is going to pay $140 for a CBJ. Sure not me, we agree to something else and she halfway does it and then changes her mind after she has the money. So I then change my mind cause at this point I'm just pissed. I ask her a question and she basically kinda yells at me in Chinese. I told her to say it in English I don't speak Chinese. I tell her I don't want anything since you sent doing what was agreed to and ask for my money back. She tells me no. I get off the table and get dressed and tell her "you are going to give me my money back or I will call Wendy right now, and tell her! She says sorry and give me my money. Stay away, her services are not worth the high price and then she half ass does it or doesn't do it at all. Bring coco back! I miss her or better yet bring back Mai!

[QUOTE=LurkerA;5617738]I saw her Saturday. Can confirm the ridiculous budgetary requirements and visual description. Massage left me with some bruising. On he plus side, I did enjoy the TS, and the teasing was quite good. But the flip? Meh. And didn't deliver on what was negotiated. Won't repeat unless I get really desperate, and the. Will only be with my eyes wide open and most of my cash left in the car.

I can't believe I'm saying this but I really miss Coco.[/QUOTE]Bummed Coco is gone. Saw her a couple times, and then I was all geared up to go see her for the full massage experience. I was one week too late.

[QUOTE=JohnSwan777;5618115]Have you tried Alice? Any comments about her?[/QUOTE]Not really. Think I might have gotten one massage from her back when she first came, standard HE finish. Haven't seen her since.

Thats not really her fault or anything, she just wasn't really my type and I haven't gone to New Day much in the last two years because of Covid and the fact that Emily stopped rotating in new talent. I still stop in New Day probably twice a year to see Emily just to keep in touch and to try and motivate her to resume rotating out girls, but until she does I won't be in there very often.

[QUOTE=Perimeter123;5623378]Went the other day saw Linda / Lisa whatever her new name is (the old Sunny). She gives a great massage and excellent teasing. But damn get pricing are way to high. Who is going to pay $140 for a CBJ. Sure not me, we agree to something else and she halfway does it and then changes her mind after she has the money. So I then change my mind cause at this point I'm just pissed. I ask her a question and she basically kinda yells at me in Chinese. I told her to say it in English I don't speak Chinese. I tell her I don't want anything since you sent doing what was agreed to and ask for my money back. She tells me no. I get off the table and get dressed and tell her "you are going to give me my money back or I will call Wendy right now, and tell her! She says sorry and give me my money. Stay away, her services are not worth the high price and then she half ass does it or doesn't do it at all. Bring coco back! I miss her or better yet bring back Mai![/QUOTE]It's such a shame dude. This girl is literally the only AMP girl I've ever wanted things from and wasn't able to get it no matter how regularly I visited. She's kind of my unicorn in that regard and there is a desire to chase it, but I won't. I'm honestly surprised they brought her back after all the drama that occurred previously.

Who else is at Jojo's atm? (Is it still Apple?)

Is Coco coming back? When?

Feel free to PM if you don't want to discuss publicly.

[QUOTE=Citizenv;5625576]It's such a shame dude. This girl is literally the only AMP girl I've ever wanted things from and wasn't able to get it no matter how regularly I visited. She's kind of my unicorn in that regard and there is a desire to chase it, but I won't. I'm honestly surprised they brought her back after all the drama that occurred previously.

Who else is at Jojo's atm? (Is it still Apple?)

Is Coco coming back? When?

Feel free to PM if you don't want to discuss publicly.[/QUOTE]As of last week Apple was still there along with "Lisa / Linda / Sunny" . As for Lisa / Linda / Sunny while she gives a great massage & teasing her rates are the higest I've ever heard of around here. To tell you truthfully she never did anything for me in the looks department what so ever , other than having a decent spinner body... While a couple members on here rave about her. Yes I did post she is the best looking in Lynchburg at the moment, but that's purely by default. Since there really isn't anyone that I'm aware of worth seeing at BP & Rainbow and Orchid . Of course this is all just my opinion. This is also by default, and strictly my opinion. But I'd have to say Emily at New day is the best in Lynchburg right now and she has to be 50 or close to it. Sad times in Lynchburg for sure!

Has anybody checked this place out yet?. Says licensed massuer. So not sure if you'd leave happy.

If this help any I have been to a similar sounding place in Washington [URL]https://www.meridianenergymassage.com[/URL].

I went for help with some knee pain and migraines. They did help a little. But pills and booz helped more I think.

I would only go here for help with serious medical issues. The place in Washington was 100% professional and legit. Absolutely no extras of any kind. It was like going to see a doctor.

So long everyone. I doubt I will post here again as today is my last day working in Lynchburg. Off to work in Florida next.

Stupid me went to New Day again since my last post and I got nothing from Alice, not even a HJ, just a normal and not very good massage. I offered her a good tip but she refused to do any extras. Hard to understand her English but I think she said she has a boyfriend now and does not want to do that anymore. Hmmm OK, first time I have heard that line. Good bye Lynchburg. Nice pretty town but very boring AMP wise.

[QUOTE=SlapNutts;5628791]Has anybody checked this place out yet?. Says licensed massuer. So not sure if you'd leave happy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SlapNutts;5628791]Has anybody checked this place out yet?. Says licensed massuer. So not sure if you'd leave happy.[/QUOTE]I wasn't aware it existed, but just after some online searching it doesn't feel like our type of place to me. Closes at 6:30 pm on most days, which is usually a bad sign for us. Apparently the lady goes by "Mrs. Chen" though, so maybe there's hope?

[QUOTE=Citizenv;5629648]I wasn't aware it existed, but just after some online searching it doesn't feel like our type of place to me. Closes at 6:30 pm on most days, which is usually a bad sign for us. Apparently the lady goes by "Mrs. Chen" though, so maybe there's hope?[/QUOTE]A guy on here told me about it last month. Said he walked in and nobody was there, so he left. I hadn't heard or thought anymore about it, until I drove past and saw a banner out front today. The ad Says Monday through Saturday 10-8 on Sunday 12-6 . You're probably right, Odds are it isn't our type of place, BUT if business is slow and they need to pay the rent and want to stay in business, who's to say it can't turn into our kind of place.

Heard there was a new girl named Ashley. Has anyone seen here? If so how old, and how does she look?.

Stopped by Friday morning, mamasan took me to the last room and accepted the. 6 for the hour. I didn't get a good look at the masseuse but didn't expect much. Massage was ok, medium, no pain (good or bad) and no teasing. On the flip, I discovered an older anti-spinner was my draw. She wasn't fugly by any means but definitely wasn't my preference. She offered lots of extra services, to which I said no thanks and just shook her hand. Finished with head, chest and foot massage. When the hour was nearly up I got dressed and left. 4 tip.

[QUOTE=LurkerA;5644932]Stopped by Friday morning, mamasan took me to the last room and accepted the. 6 for the hour. I didn't get a good look at the masseuse but didn't expect much. Massage was ok, medium, no pain (good or bad) and no teasing. On the flip, I discovered an older anti-spinner was my draw. She wasn't fugly by any means but definitely wasn't my preference. She offered lots of extra services, to which I said no thanks and just shook her hand. Finished with head, chest and foot massage. When the hour was nearly up I got dressed and left. 4 tip.[/QUOTE]I first started visiting AMP's in 2014 , I'd alternate between Jojo's and Healing hands. And eventually dropped Healing hands since I never saw a girl worth repeating with there, and the table shower had black mold in the corners. I'm not sure when BP opened or when I became aware of it. BUT I can say several years ago maybe 2015-2016-2017 I saw 3 attractive younger girls working there. One was the famous "Apple" from Alice's shops. And the other two were actually better looking than her in my opinion, BUT after one or two visits they were gone. They were really hot! , and I'll pop in once a year nowadays with hopes of seeing a girl of that caliber there again. BUT I'm always disappointed with girls in their late 40's or 50's working there. Maybe this area is a dead zone LOL, I'm not expecting models,,,,, but how about some AMP girls in their mid 20's to mid 30's!

[QUOTE=SlapNutts;5645343]Maybe this area is a dead zone LOL, I'm not expecting models,,,,, but how about some AMP girls in their mid 20's to mid 30's![/QUOTE]No doubt. I got started in earnest about two years ago, mostly w / Emily, Jojos and Orchid (the latter being closest to downtown). I've never seen anyone locally that comes close to any advertisement you might see. I don't travel often but when I do I try to get away for some "me" time. Orlando is insane. There you will find those model types and any activity you desire. Except a massage!

I've also found the Korean AMPs to generally have much better looking talent. Perhaps that's what we're missing here. A little east-Asia competition!

Did a walk in, the new broads are Mia and Ashley. I drew Mia, nothing special, just typical. Probably mid to late 40's would be my guess. Short, thick body but friendly and gave a decent massage with plenty of ass play throughout, and a nice pre flip work up. On the flip easy negotiations and She accepted standard rate for the area. All in all a decent time BUT , not good enough to make me want to repeat , plus she shorted me 10 minutes . The other girl Ashley I only got a quick look at, BUT I'd say she is younger and better looking in my opinion. But again only got a quick look...

Saw Ashley, she is kinda thick but a pretty face, mid 30's maybe. Massage sucked, very little teasing. Her rates are high, she must think she is a 10. On the flip she asked me what I wanted. I shot for the moon and she told me no. She wanted $200 for a CBJ. Then I opted for the standard and she said $60. I said no thanks, I'm done and left. Wasted a free massage card on her. At least I didn't have to pay for the hour.

[QUOTE=Perimeter123;5658300]Saw Ashley, she is kinda thick but a pretty face, mid 30's maybe. Massage sucked, very little teasing. Her rates are high, she must think she is a 10. On the flip she asked me what I wanted. I shot for the moon and she told me no. She wanted $200 for a CBJ. Then I opted for the standard and she said $60. I said no thanks, I'm done and left. Wasted a free massage card on her. At least I didn't have to pay for the hour.[/QUOTE]Thanks for TOFTT. I was going to try to get by and see her today, it couldn't make it happen. Now I know not to bother!

So I see a change of cars at New Day. I think one is Emily's. The white suv is not there but a black one is? Is this a new provider? Thanks.

Stopped by BP, walked in. Chinese guy sitting there. Waited about a minute. No one came out so I left. Glad I did.

Over to Waterlick. Was greeted by a young-ish, cute-ish spinner-type, opted for the hour w / TS. In the shower room quickly discovered I was her first TS (at least here). It was not too exciting and I thought I was in for a disappointing remainder of my time. But I was wrong! Medium massage was pretty good. After a decent tease, and flip, tip for what I was looking for negotiated at coco rates. Wrapped up with a lengthy front leg and arm massage. She was friendly and her English was pretty good (though she kept saying it wasn't). Hope she stays around a while. Will repeat. I'm sure the TS will get better with practice.

[QUOTE=LurkerA;5668193]Stopped by BP, walked in. Chinese guy sitting there. Waited about a minute. No one came out so I left. Glad I did.

Over to Waterlick. Was greeted by a young-ish, cute-ish spinner-type, opted for the hour w / TS. In the shower room quickly discovered I was her first TS (at least here). It was not too exciting and I thought I was in for a disappointing remainder of my time. But I was wrong! Medium massage was pretty good. After a decent tease, and flip, tip for what I was looking for negotiated at coco rates. Wrapped up with a lengthy front leg and arm massage. She was friendly and her English was pretty good (though she kept saying it wasn't). Hope she stays around a while. Will repeat. I'm sure the TS will get better with practice.[/QUOTE]I also did a walk in and got Yuki. I agree 100 % She is a Young-ish, Cute-ish, Spinner type. And while not a Super Model , I'd say she has a basic Attractivness to her and better looking than normally found around here , and Initally I really liked her. My Massage was also very good, however the pre flip was lacking, just light fingertips across my back, and never even grazing or coming close to the special areas. On the flip is where it really went down hill for me. I offered the standard $40 and she shot back with " I gave a really good massage, you can tip more" I said I only tip $40 for this. I then upped the ante and asked if another menu item was available and she said NO. Yuki then gave me a no skill jackhammer and shorted me 10 Minutes. Thats a shame because she's attractive and I would have been a regular customer, BUT when they ask for more then $40 tip and offer nothing more in exchange , it rubs me the wrong way. And I won't repeat because of that.

[QUOTE=SlapNutts;5669371]I offered the standard $40 and she shot back with " I gave a really good massage, you can tip more" I said I only tip $40 for this. I then upped the ante and asked if another menu item was available and she said NO. Yuki then gave me a no skill jackhammer and shorted me 10 Minutes.[/QUOTE]Just curious, but did you bring up the pricing at that point in time or did she?

Obviously I wasn't there, but from what you've described, it sounds almost like something ruined the vibe between you prior to that. I don't know why the price of the HE was being discussed at that point (not normal in my experience), but she's clearly annoyed with the outcome of the HE negotiation so you trying to go for a bigger finish was probably a lost cause. The shorting of time and the lack of enthusiasm in the HE are just confirmation signals of her frustration imo.

If you can't figure out where things went wrong, I think you're making the right decision in not repeating. She would probably remember the encounter and the bad vibe would likely carry on into your next visit.

[QUOTE=Citizenv;5670416]Just curious, but did you bring up the pricing at that point in time or did she?

Obviously I wasn't there, but from what you've described, it sounds almost like something ruined the vibe between you prior to that. but she's clearly annoyed with the outcome of the HE negotiation so you trying to go for a bigger finish was probably a lost cause. The shorting of time and the lack of enthusiasm in the HE are just confirmation signals of her frustration imo.

If you can't figure out where things went wrong, I think you're making the right decision in not repeating. She would probably remember the encounter and the bad vibe would likely carry on into your next visit.[/QUOTE]In my opinion everything WAS going great, and up to that point I was already thinking I would repeat with her. Maybe you should reread my post, I apologize if it wasn't clear enough, as I stated "On the flip" is where it really went down hill for me.

You commented "I don't know why the price of the HE was being discussed at that point (not normal in my experience)".

Not Normal? Then when do YOU discuss the price?.

I been going to AMP's since 2014. "On the flip" means to me after she tells you to "TURN OVER" and you are laying there face up, and the massuse is looking at you and usually rubbing your upper thigh close to your junk. Some girls will just proceede with a Handshake, BUT most girls. Especially if you are seeing her for the first time, will ask "if you want" or "how much you tip" or "what you want Honey" that is always the point extras and prices are negotiated in my experience at EVERY AMP I have been to.

I don't rightly remember exactly how she inferred it , BUT she wanted to know my tip , I offered the standard $40 , She said "I gave good massage you can tip more" but she didn't offer any more options. From what I've heard since from a Regular she wants $80 for a Topless handshake. I'm not a fan of paying for topless or nude handshakes. But will gladly pay more for other menu items (if available) so I offerd $100 for one and was turned down.

There is not much to figure out , The only thing that ruined the vibe in my opinion IS she's GREEDY and wasn't happy with a $40 tip. Unless for some reason she just didn't like me. However I always show up freshly showered, nicely dressed and don't do any touchy feely during the massage, pefect customer as far as I'm concerned,

She's good looking, give her a try, BUT it takes a $80 tip to make her happy. P.S. The last girl I saw there also shorted me 10 minutes time and she was happy with the tip I gave her.

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[QUOTE=SlapNutts;5670626]You commented "I don't know why the price of the HE was being discussed at that point (not normal in my experience)".

Not Normal? Then when do YOU discuss the price?. [/QUOTE]Your post was fine, I was just surprised by some of the details.

To answer your question, I don't discuss the price of a HE, that's why I'm puzzled by your encounter.

For me, the flip goes 1 of 2 ways. If the girl is comfortable with me, then usually she asks me what I want or offers me certain options. If I'm choosing something extra off the menu, then the price for that item is discussed as you said. If we can't agree on price, or if I just don't want what's offered then I choose the HE and it just begins. In other cases where the girl doesn't know me as well or clearly doesn't want to offer more, I'm told to turn over and then the HE just begins without any discussion at all.

Sometimes they'll ask for permission as they begin to touch just to make sure its okay, but that's it. In NEITHER of those cases is the price of the HE ever discussed before its given. Almost as if its included in the price of the massage, and negotiation is only necessary if I want something other than the standard service. They just do it and then I tip whatever I want after the massage is finished.

I'm not young, and I don't have an underwear model's body, but like you I show up clean and behave myself. Also similarly to you, I've basically lived in AMP's for the last 4 years for most of my hobbying. During that time I've never been asked to "do it myself". I've literally only ever negotiated the price of a HE 1 time before receiving it, and the only time I usually ever get shorted on time is if I go during a busy time of the day.

I'm not suggesting you're doing something wrong. The simple fact is that our experiences are clearly quite different, and I'm just trying to figure out why.

[QUOTE=Citizenv;5671768]I'm not suggesting you're doing something wrong. The simple fact is that our experiences are clearly quite different, and I'm just trying to figure out why[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. Never had any amount discussed for HE. A simple look or nod sometimes. When I pay the house I pull it from a wad of 20's, they can see there is 40,60 or 80 in the wad. No discussion ever. The only time a discussion is had, and for me it is rare, is if I am at a location known for FS. Then it really isn't a tip. You are paying for a service. Depending on the location I can receive whatever I want. #1 - I don't let my hands run wild. I know that the providers actually respect that. I am fit, super clean, dress very well, I taught myself a little Mandarin and, I tip slightly above the avg. It's simple. Pay attention to #1. It may seem that that will get you what you seek, but politeness is really the key in an AMP. Just my opinion.

[QUOTE=Citizenv;5671768]Your post was fine, I was just surprised by some of the details.

To answer your question, I don't discuss the price of a HE, that's why I'm puzzled by your encounter.

For me, the flip goes 1 of 2 ways. If the girl is comfortable with me, then usually she asks me what I want or offers me certain options. If I'm choosing something extra off the menu, then the price for that item is discussed as you said. If we can't agree on price, or if I just don't want what's offered then I choose the HE and it just begins. In other cases where the girl doesn't know me as well or clearly doesn't want to offer more, I'm told to turn over and then the HE just begins without any discussion at all.

Sometimes they'll ask for permission as they begin to touch just to make sure its okay, but that's it. In NEITHER of those cases is the price of the HE ever discussed before its given. Almost as if its included in the price of the massage, and negotiation is only necessary if I want something other than the standard service. They just do it and then I tip whatever I want after the massage is finished.

I'm not young, and I don't have an underwear model's body, but like you I show up clean and behave myself. Also similarly to you, I've basically lived in AMP's for the last 4 years for most of my hobbying. During that time I've never been asked to "do it myself". I've literally only ever negotiated the price of a HE 1 time before receiving it, and the only time I usually ever get shorted on time is if I go during a busy time of the day.

I'm not suggesting you're doing something wrong. The simple fact is that our experiences are clearly quite different, and I'm just trying to figure out why.[/QUOTE]I've never had a AMP girl suggest "I do it myself either" however several years ago at Jojo's I think I had a brand new girl and no handshake was offered. Maybe she thought I was LEO, I gave her a $10 tip and she seemed happy. That's the only time I been to AMP without leaving happy.

Not only me but lots of guys get time shorted at Jojo's and Timberlake BP. Happens all the time, even when they are not busy.

I've had a few girls that go right to the HE. BUT if I had to guess, I'd say 8 out of 10 girls I see for the first time ask about the tip.

As for your record of only having to negotiate one HE, Try Yuki I'm confident she'll be # 2.

[QUOTE=Megadon1;5671798]I couldn't agree more. Never had any amount discussed for HE. A simple look or nod sometimes. When I pay the house I pull it from a wad of 20's, they can see there is 40,60 or 80 in the wad. No discussion ever. The only time a discussion is had, and for me it is rare, is if I am at a location known for FS. Then it really isn't a tip. You are paying for a service. Depending on the location I can receive whatever I want. #1 - I don't let my hands run wild. I know that the providers actually respect that. I am fit, super clean, dress very well, I taught myself a little Mandarin and, I tip slightly above the avg. It's simple. Pay attention to #1. It may seem that that will get you what you seek, but politeness is really the key in an AMP. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]I agree sometimes on the flip a simple nod will set the HE into motion and no amount will be discussed. I stand firm that 8 out of 10 times when I see a girl for the FIRST TIME I'm asked how much tip on the flip even for a HE. I'm just stating the facts, this week at the moment of truth SHE brought up the tip, I don't remember the exact wording (I'll pay more attention next time) . BUT it was clear enough that I had to say a number before she proceded. I said $40 and she said " I gave really good massage, you can tip more".

Here is the thing, Not every time.... but most times I hand them the $40 or $60 house fee exactly and they dont see my wallet . I don't believe in flashing a big wad, the more money they see, the more tip they think you can afford. That stragity has only failed once since 2014, at a known HE place, The girl was very young and new , maybe she was scaird, or thought I was LEO. Let me be perfectly clear I'm not cheap, but I'm not paying more than $40 for a clothed HE, that raises the rates for everyone. Prime example if they know you have more money , they want more...one time I cashed in a "Free massage" card at Jojo's and the girl had nerve to say "free this time, so you can tip me more" LOL I don't think so Honey. I'm not changing my ways. But MAYBE since I don't flash my cash I get asked more about the HE tip than you guys. However I'm still at 99 % for leaving happy....I think that one girl was just a fluke , and that was probably 5 years ago.

As for Rules that should guarantee a HE #1 keep your hands to yourself #2 be respectful #3 Lay there naked and Never use the towel

[QUOTE=SlapNutts;5671961]As for your record of only having to negotiate one HE, Try Yuki I'm confident she'll be # 2.[/QUOTE]I've already seen her, I just didn't post it because it was a textbook 1st encounter and didn't provide any real details that hadn't already been posted about her. My record remains intact LOL. Just for conversational value, the one that I had to negotiate with was that old woman when I was doing recon on the AMP in bedford a few years back. She offered all the extras, and after I declined them all we agreed on the HE. She starts going to work, and then in the middle of it abruptly pauses and asks me what I'm going to pay for what she's doing. I said an amount and she gave me a "that's good enough" nod and went back to jackhammering LOL.

As for Yuki though, it was a very standard but successful first visit imo. I got the full time I paid for, and our interactions were all good. No extras were offered, but I didn't request any either. Feel like I can't really expect much more than that from an initial encounter.

It's worth noting that I did tip her 60 though. I don't always pay that for HE's, but I commonly do on first visits if I see something I like and want to make sure the encounter ends favorably. I think of it as part of making a good first impression, but I'm sure some will disagree with it as a practice. There's a lot more that goes into what I tip regularly for an HE. Was the massage good or was she sandbagging it? Was it a full hour or just HH? Did I get slighted on time? ETC. I don't see the tip as being just for the HE, its a statement about the service overall. If I feel like they deserve it, I'll give them 60, but I don't do it all the time or just because they feel entitled to it.

[QUOTE=Citizenv;5672428]I've already seen her, I just didn't post it because it was a textbook 1st encounter and didn't provide any real details that hadn't already been posted about her. My record remains intact LOL. Just for conversational value, the one that I had to negotiate with was that old woman when I was doing recon on the AMP in bedford a few years back. She offered all the extras, and after I declined them all we agreed on the HE. She starts going to work, and then in the middle of it abruptly pauses and asks me what I'm going to pay for what she's doing. I said an amount and she gave me a "that's good enough" nod and went back to jackhammering LOL.

As for Yuki though, it was a very standard but successful first visit imo. I got the full time I paid for, and our interactions were all good. No extras were offered, but I didn't request any either. Feel like I can't really expect much more than that from an initial encounter.

It's worth noting that I did tip her 60 though. I don't always pay that for HE's, but I commonly do on first visits if I see something I like and want to make sure the encounter ends favorably. I think of it as part of making a good first impression, but I'm sure some will disagree with it as a practice. There's a lot more that goes into what I tip regularly for an HE. Was the massage good or was she sandbagging it? Was it a full hour or just HH? Did I get slighted on time? ETC. I don't see the tip as being just for the HE, its a statement about the service overall. If I feel like they deserve it, I'll give them 60, but I don't do it all the time or just because they feel entitled to it.[/QUOTE]I hear you. Never been to the Bedford shop, as I heard it's just one old Lady. Depends on the place. BP, Tokyo or Asian healing you can ask for whatever you want on the first visit with confidence that you won't be turned down 99 % of the time. Another local place I won't name, where HE are usually the only main option I take a different approach. I just get the HE the first visit or two. THEN if the girl is still there ask for more after she knows you, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

Hell these days half of these girls don't even last a month and they are gone. I'm not goin to try and impress them with a $60 tip for a HE when odds are they will be gone the next time I go lol. I'm pretty sure the recent Ashley, and Lisa/Sunny only lasted a month or a tad longer...I even think there were a couple more girls that didnt stay long since Coco's departure but I dont remember their names

However in my recent situation where the girl ASKED for MORE $$ . I threw out a option where she could make more and it was turned down. Again She said "I give great massage, YOU can tip more" She just wanted more for a clothed HE , and didn't even bother to offer $60 upgrade like they do there for topless..NONE of that, just wanted more than $40 for a clothed HE. Now If I see a girl I REALLY like I may upgrade to a different option above standard if I'm hoping for more. But that's really rare. The only one in recent memory would be Mei. I upgraded to the next level HE without revealing too many details

Another guy had a similar experience as mine with Yuki. He'll probably post about it when he gets time.

It's common for JoJo's to have a cute lady working. Yuki just started and, IMO, she is very cute and attractive. A good height (little short) and thin. Always nice when there is a small tight ass. Eyes are cute but hides behind the a mask. Massage was average and I'm curious if she can do a stronger massage. I like it to hurt a little. Everything was inline with JoJo's. I don't know how the boss finds cute girls when BP is always ugly and out of shape. Is that now the difference between FS and HE?

I don't think politeness matters. As with everything in life, it helps that you aren't a goat. In shape definitely helps. They would rather provide FS to a clean and moderately fit guy than a fat ass or stinky goat. Being a jerk is clearly a disadvantage in life. But, for these ladies, money talks. $$ That is why they came to America, that is why their govt (which hates America) allows them to come here because all the money is sent home while they avoid paying taxes in America (but remittance is taxed in China), and many grew up poor. This is their one chance to get payed well for providing HE or FS and take care of their parents and buy a room (home) in a high rise building in China. It's all about the money. Money. Money. Money.

[QUOTE=Megadon1;5671798]……. It's simple. Pay attention to #1. It may seem that that will get you what you seek, but politeness is really the key in an AMP. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NotBob2014;5674315]It's common for JoJo's to have a cute lady working. Yuki just started and, IMO, she is very cute and attractive. A good height (little short) and thin. Always nice when there is a small tight ass. Eyes are cute but hides behind the a mask. Massage was average and I'm curious if she can do a stronger massage. I like it to hurt a little. Everything was inline with JoJo's. I don't know how the boss finds cute girls when BP is always ugly and out of shape. Is that now the difference between FS and HE?[/QUOTE]Historically in my opinion, Jojo's does tend to have the better looking Ladies working in Lynchburg. With that said, I have seen 3 young Broads working at Timberlake BP that were FINE as HELL. But this was probably between 2014-2015 . I still pop in at BP once a year with hopes they get some more fine girls. But it's always a disappointment.

As For Yuki, she offered me medium or Hard. If you want stronger than she's doing, just tell her. I found her attractive as well, massage was good, pre flip was below average. Just some light fingertips on my back, never even went near my crack and wanted More than $40 for a HE but She didn't get it. Also the HE really didn't rate. Just a no skill jackhammer.