"Sugar Babies" and "Arrangements"

Personally speaking, I can care less as it relates to my own situation. I do have a couple that I intend on keeping around for the long hail. But, generally speaking, I just frown at the idea of this forum being shared with a provider and, especially, in the case of SA, given the intended nature of the site and relationships.

[QUOTE=JohnHandCock;3569717]That secret is out of the bag. Just count on they know. They have own forums, they could have friends that they share info with and the one most likely is some monger telling of it. With the influx of new girls daily why care if they know.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/bd3894d8-03c2-4203-822a-ac560baf8078[/URL]

AKA: Italianbabii.

So I'm headed out to do some work around my mothers house early this morning and I get a strange call from a New York number (914) *9552. I have family in New York and they happen to be Puerto Rican, given the hurricane crap down there I answered. The lady on the other end proceeds to chew my ass out, threatened to kill me and then have her husband kill me again. Seems she doesn't approve of her 24 year old daughter selling pussy. So, knowing damn well there wasn't a damn thing she can do about it, I had a little fun fucking this ranting *****. She didn't like it when I asked if she was interested in earning a few extra bucks, and she pretty much had a cow when I told her that on the bright side her daughter was pretty damn good in bed, she must have taught her well. I'm not at all concerned with her threats, as they have no clue where I actually live and my cell number is completely useless for finding me.

Anywhoooo, I figure it's probably not a good idea to contact the girl as her mother apparently has her phone (she read a couple of our texts to me).

Good morning all.

FOr those of you that seem worried about pros on SA. They've been on there longer than any of us and for the most part they are harmless and just looking to branch out in their marketing. I've been on SA almost a year now and was one of the very first to loudly proclaim to you all that this is a honey hole. One of the very first chicks I chatted with was Tara. She was offering up 2 fers (possibly with her sister Shelby) but I never took her up on it. She was, and always has been, pleasant when we spoke and chatted as have been several others that I know for sure were pros before getting on the site. So for me at least, this is not an issue and for those who don't like it there's really nothing you can do. Reporting only has an effect on their acct if THEY initiate any overtly sexual conversation or ask for money. In the end, I prefer the UTR types, but I've seen a couple of them go to the pro side after meeting a couple of guys. Although they may not be CL / BP advertisers they are still pros.

On the subject of women knowing about this forum, they have and do! I've had several women say something about USA, USASG, or that USA thing. Even had one contact me out of the blue and say she had heard about me from someone on USASG. SO WHAT? What's to be FREAKED OUT about? Growing this forum, even if it's with some women, is a good thing isn't it? I, for one, wish more women were joining in on the forum conversations. I'd love to hear more from a female perspective on the subject of Mongering in general, UTR types, Attached but Looking, any and all of their input would be welcome as far as I'm concerned.

Just MHO and 1 cent worth of input.

SKY.

[QUOTE=Airmantroy;3570184][URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/bd3894d8-03c2-4203-822a-ac560baf8078[/URL]

AKA: Italianbabii.

So I'm headed out to do some work around my mothers house early this morning and I get a strange call from a New York number (914) *9552. I have family in New York and they happen to be Puerto Rican, given the hurricane crap down there I answered. The lady on the other end proceeds to chew my ass out, threatened to kill me and then have her husband kill me again. Seems she doesn't approve of her 24 year old daughter selling pussy. So, knowing damn well there wasn't a damn thing she can do about it, I had a little fun fucking this ranting *****. She didn't like it when I asked if she was interested in earning a few extra bucks, and she pretty much had a cow when I told her that on the bright side her daughter was pretty damn good in bed, she must have taught her well. I'm not at all concerned with her threats, as they have no clue where I actually live and my cell number is completely useless for finding me.

Anywhoooo, I figure it's probably not a good idea to contact the girl as her mother apparently has her phone (she read a couple of our texts to me).[/QUOTE]Damn! That would really suck to have to die twice. LOL.

Well the first of the month specials are rolling in as my inbox is keeping me busy and these girls are pretty anxious for a meet. I've been sticking with the ones that want a public place for keeping my single mom to pro ratio down and it seems to be working.

[QUOTE=SouthsideStan;3570625]Damn! That would really suck to have to die twice. LOL.[/QUOTE]I think I actually laughed when she said that.

I'm thinking about spoofing the number for the Fulton Co PD and calling her about her terroristic threats. Scare the shit out the damn yankee C you and Tahiti, there is absolutely NOTHING she can do to me, and I'm single anyway. Threatening me was actually a giant mistake, I just don't give a damn if anyone knows what I do with my money.

[QUOTE=OnyxRain;3569618]Just want to be sure that none of us would let these sb girls know about the existence of this forum. Right?

I have no specific information but someone I've been chatting with said something that gave me the impression that she knew of some of my other exploits. Do they possibly have a similar forum to exchange intel on sugar daddies?[/QUOTE]I met one girl that told me there was a Board about how to deal with guys on SA. I was surprised myself. They give tips and advice on what to do like how we do on here. I should have asked what the name of it was but I was more concerned about fukin her at that point in time LOL.

Hello team,

I am new to this site. Was googling for something and found this awesome site. Excellent reviews and almost spent 4 hours going through the posts and I appreciate this kind of forum wherein we can share our experiences and learn a lot. Just wondering if anyone has any experience with this chic on SA.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/60c0164f-eda9-4e11-8ec7-a8fcc9bbba2e[/URL]

Tifanie snowphat is in the ATL if you believe it's really her.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/90e86128-d836-4b0e-83d9-89423f51951f[/URL]

Survey: How many of you have busted a nut in your SB?

If you are not snipped. Did you verify birth control?

[QUOTE=LogJammin18;3574517]Survey: How many of you have busted a nut in your SB?

If you are not snipped. Did you verify birth control?[/QUOTE]I've only done it once. I actually only visited for BBBJ but she got so turned on she climbed aboard and rode me til I busted. She was in her 40's and told me she was fixed. If she was a young one there's no way I would've nutted in her.

[QUOTE=KillerBee1975;3572311]Hello team,

I am new to this site. Was googling for something and found this awesome site. Excellent reviews and almost spent 4 hours going through the posts and I appreciate this kind of forum wherein we can share our experiences and learn a lot. Just wondering if anyone has any experience with this chic on SA.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/60c0164f-eda9-4e11-8ec7-a8fcc9bbba2e[/URL][/QUOTE]Yep went out with her. She talks a good game but is really nothing. Do not take her out. Do not spend money on her she will try to string you along with talk. She just moved apartments in Buckhead across the streets and wants $1000 for 30 minutes just so you know.

[QUOTE=LogJammin18;3574517]Survey: How many of you have busted a nut in your SB?

If you are not snipped. Did you verify birth control?[/QUOTE]Of course. That's part of the allure of that kind of relationship. I do ask about birth control and even offer an alternative (spermacide gel) if they say they're not on it. I try to be careful about disclosing my identity but I guess it's always a risk. Seems a lot of trouble for someone looking to trap someone though.

[QUOTE=Harley32;3575785]Of course. That's part of the allure of that kind of relationship. I do ask about birth control and even offer an alternative (spermacide gel) if they say they're not on it. I try to be careful about disclosing my identity but I guess it's always a risk. Seems a lot of trouble for someone looking to trap someone though.[/QUOTE]Not alot of trouble if it works and your paying cs for next 18 years. They can claim your the daddy and it would be your dime to fight it. Who knows how many they are doing and eventually they hit the jackpot.

[QUOTE=Harley32;3575785]Seems a lot of trouble for someone looking to trap someone though.[/QUOTE]Evil women out there would love to have 25% of your gross income for the next 18 years.

[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;3575864]Evil women out there would love to have 25% of your gross income for the next 18 years.[/QUOTE]A risk I guess. Fortunately, GA did finally adopt child support reform a number of years ago. It's not a straight percentage anymore, it's based on both parents income. Referred to as income shares model.

[QUOTE=Harley32;3576064]A risk I guess. Fortunately, GA did finally adopt child support reform a number of years ago. It's not a straight percentage anymore, it's based on both parents income. Referred to as income shares model.[/QUOTE]So, do guys get an equal fight? Never heard of this.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;3576075]So, do guys get an equal fight? Never heard of this.[/QUOTE]If you want joint custody you'll get an equal fight. If you don't, you won't.

[QUOTE=Harley32;3576064]A risk I guess. Fortunately, GA did finally adopt child support reform a number of years ago. It's not a straight percentage anymore, it's based on both parents income. Referred to as income shares model.[/QUOTE]My bad for making it appear asa hard percentage. But if don't want custody, 25% is in the ballpark. I'm not preaching but damn sure trying to practice. Dodged that bullet once. I'm afraid the next one will get me.

[QUOTE=Niteluvr;3576075]So, do guys get an equal fight? Never heard of this.[/QUOTE]GA presumes primary custody for the mother. You can ask for equal but if she doesn't agree then she has primary. And whoever gets primary custody wins the child support lottery.

[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;3576174]My bad for making it appear asa hard percentage. But if don't want custody, 25% is in the ballpark. I'm not preaching but damn sure trying to practice. Dodged that bullet once. I'm afraid the next one will get me.[/QUOTE]GA used to use 20% as an average before adopting the income shares model. Now it's lower in most cases and is especially helpful if you have a higher income. Also, you can fight for custody, but barring something extraordinary, you're unlikely to get it. And joint custody requires joint agreement. If she doesn't agree, she's primary. As far as risk, you can always get snipped and save the worry.

I know a dude that got popped for twins that way from a provider. These girls are crafty at finding out who you no matter how careful you are especially if that's their intent from the start and you are completely unaware.

[QUOTE=KingSlayer22;3576350]I know a dude that got popped for twins that way from a provider. These girls are crafty at finding out who you no matter how careful you are especially if that's their intent from the start and you are completely unaware.[/QUOTE]Thats my worry about doing this, somehow girl has a child, she proceeds to go to the state and get 18-20 years of child support for a child I did not want. My dad and I had a conversation when I was younger, asked me what I wanted out of life. He told me do not have children if you want those things. He was very correct.

That child support for 18-20 years. It is my retirement.

Different subject, what's up with the SB wanting 2 k a visit? There was some georgia ex-cheerleader wanting that. My only reply was "no thank you. Good luck. ".

I like to find just one girl. My ATF and regular was lily (she is on TER) for over 8 months. She was an european spinner, became friends. She finally cleaned up, was off drugs. Unfortunately, she has went dark. I still have her contact number but no fun time. I like to find another spinner, perhaps a bit younger. Lily is now approaching the big 30. I was going to move on to Tara, but she isn't exactly fully mentally there.

[QUOTE=Harley32;3576276]GA used to use 20% as an average before adopting the income shares model. Now it's lower in most cases and is especially helpful if you have a higher income. Also, you can fight for custody, but barring something extraordinary, you're unlikely to get it. And joint custody requires joint agreement. If she doesn't agree, she's primary. As far as risk, you can always get snipped and save the worry.[/QUOTE]Not sure how you would prove her income as a hooker. Any way you slice it, men are screwed when it comes to kids and women know this. My wife of 20+ years got a boyfriend on facebook, left me and got custody of my 10 year old (at the time). My 16 year old stayed with me (14 year olds can make a choice). She paid nothing for the 16 year old and I had to pay $1200 per month (net after taxes) for child support (plus the whole spousal support; pretax). I am in the low six figures and it hurt. I spent $32 k to get custody of my 10 year old and only did so when she tried to leave the state with my son. My sons are now well adjusted young men and their mother visits a couple times a year, so it was a good investment in their sanity. The courts side with women everytime in a child custody situation. Its a fact.

Living the dream.

Lostbear.

[QUOTE=KingSlayer22;3576350]I know a dude that got popped for twins that way from a provider. These girls are crafty at finding out who you no matter how careful you are especially if that's their intent from the start and you are completely unaware.[/QUOTE]Them skeezers are out there. Trap your ass. Tell you they're on birth control, can't have kids, whatever. A pregnant hooker has the same rights to your wallet as your girlfriend, spouse, ex. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I wouldn't want any type of custody, visitation in that situation. Court would grant that, but for the next 18 years I'd be working approx. one week out of each month for baby's momma

[QUOTE=AaronHamlet;3576637]Them skeezers are out there. Trap your ass. Tell you they're on birth control, can't have kids, whatever. A pregnant hooker has the same rights to your wallet as your girlfriend, spouse, ex. Maybe I'm in the minority, but I wouldn't want any type of custody, visitation in that situation. Court would grant that, but for the next 18 years I'd be working approx. one week out of each month for baby's momma[/QUOTE]To me this problem is really easy to avoid, if you don't trust your SB to be on birth control, then do not come inside or wear a rubber, on top of that if you are in the game whether is with BP girls or strippers or streetwalkers or sugar babies there some basic rules of mongering that you should follow such as: use a burner, cash only, never your real identity, no personal details, no pictures, away from your area, hide your car, gift card for SB website.

If a girl comes at you with a baby you're literally toss the burner out the window midway through the conversation LOL.

If she tells you in person, you tell her that's fine, that you'll take care of the situation, invite her for lunch then excuse yourself to go to the bathroom and walk out the back door and then toss your burner out the window.

And, additionally, if you are hard-core like me you can go and get a vasectomy and then you know 100% they're lying if they come to you with a baby.

It might seem like a lot of work but it's worth it (for me at least) I just met a new SB that took me days of courting, paying the membership at the website, paying for a hotel, but as I am writing this I'm driving back home from being balls deep, french kissing, hugging, beast licking, DATYing, BBBJ, with a beautiful young hot blonde MILF. And all she really requested besides her minimal allowance is that I visit her over and over again, to which I replied "don't mind if I do".

I think this one just took me out of the hunt.

I've been through it with a non-pro but it's the same, she wanted to collect money and have leverage against being dumped. After the baby is born she goes to the local child support enforcement and applies. Then you get a letter from the state to provide DNA and they test it. If you win (lose) then they decide how much you're going to pay. Nowadays, with this Me-23 testing, they are building a database that they can use to find you if one of your relatives gives a sample and it's in the database. It's called a Familial Match. When they get one they just test everyone that person is related to. So you dudes popping these chicks raw may think you are home free, but you aren't. And if they call you and tell you that you are a daddy throwing the burner out the window may not help. They will find you one way or the other. It may take some time but they will. Getting custody is a 5 k to 7 k headache, and in my case the mother had to go to jail for the 3rd time for me to be awarded primary custody. Getting visitation is 2 k to 3 k, and you're at the mother's mercy still. Georgia is pro-mother's rights so don't think because you are a better parent that it matters. You have to prove she is unfit. And if she half cleans up her act she'll get custody and be back on the gravy train in short order.

If this advice makes you change your attitude about fathering illegitimate kids then donate to a charity of your choosing in your local area that helps children in need. Even if you're not risking it, donate.

<<mic drop .

[QUOTE=NewGuyFromCobb;3577083]Then you get a letter from the state to provide DNA and they test it. If you win (lose) then they decide how much you're going to pay. Nowadays, with this Me-23 testing, they are building a database that they can use to find you if one of your relatives gives a sample and it's in the database. It's called a Familial Match [/QUOTE]"They send you a letter to provide DNA?" Where the fuck they send the letter to? The fake address on SA or the fake name and address at the hotel registration? Or the Walmart in Baton Rouge where I registered my burner?

She had your personal info and that's why you have to stick to the rules, one of them being 'no personal info' ever.

I don't even take my car, I take one of the company cars and there's no log on who took it unless there's an accident and there's dozens of employees with locations from here to Texas.

And I follow all these precautions even though I have a vasectomy. I just do it to avoid drama.

I have had a great run of BBFS with my sb's. Actually the condom question has only come up once to my surprise. However I am snipped so no concern on the baby side. It's not an issue for me now but I would struggle to bust in a woman not knowing she was protected from getting pregnant. Not sure I want to consider having my bastards running around out there.

[QUOTE=LogJammin18;3574517]Survey: How many of you have busted a nut in your SB?

If you are not snipped. Did you verify birth control?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;3577290]"They send you a letter to provide DNA?" Where the fuck they send the letter to? The fake address on SA or the fake name and address at the hotel registration? Or the Walmart in Baton Rouge where I registered my burner?

She had your personal info and that's why you have to stick to the rules, one of them being 'no personal info' ever.

I don't even take my car, I take one of the company cars and there's no log on who took it unless there's an accident and there's dozens of employees with locations from here to Texas.

And I follow all these precautions even though I have a vasectomy. I just do it to avoid drama.[/QUOTE]Re-read slowly what he just posted. All it takes is a DNA match from one of your relatives and it shouldn't be too difficult to track you down.

[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;3577290]"They send you a letter to provide DNA?" Where the fuck they send the letter to? The fake address on SA or the fake name and address at the hotel registration? Or the Walmart in Baton Rouge where I registered my burner?

She had your personal info and that's why you have to stick to the rules, one of them being 'no personal info' ever.

I don't even take my car, I take one of the company cars and there's no log on who took it unless there's an accident and there's dozens of employees with locations from here to Texas.

And I follow all these precautions even though I have a vasectomy. I just do it to avoid drama.[/QUOTE]And all because what he said about DNA is true. Educate yourself on that procedure.

GingersRose - [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/198c51cb-a0cd-4af8-9205-34abd54b5af5[/URL] Saggy tits, has a gut and a BF that doesn't know she charges 350+ to sleep with other guys.

Bhelsea - [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/26f4a10a-d982-80e6-5886-48a54c172b32[/URL] A couple that wants to be paid. They may be up for a GB if you make it worth their while.

Lovemii - [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eef2a9d7-808f-4b77-a90b-393520c13866[/URL] A very chunky married lesbian looking to support them by sleeping with men.

MsJuicyCouture - [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/37a448ad-f9b5-495f-9c52-b2131ce6115d[/URL] Another married with kids she can't support. She's a BBW, her pics are old.

Sexy Red 1980 - [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/9973fdf7-37e7-4662-8dad-971360d860b1[/URL] Stays in a notel in Duluth. Has multiple arrests for drugs and prostitution, so not very smart about her business.

Jakie - [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/35f2b093-ab29-1a25-6cc8-68b7dca50cd7[/URL] Looking for an up-front allowance and won't discuss anything else.

SekhmetBeauty89 - [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ecc3d586-c501-4afb-b0aa-a48b752d9743[/URL] Chubby, even more chubby than her chubby pics. Time waster, always and excuse for not being able to meet but wants money up front.

Auggie 49 - [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/c3354a87-8233-68a1-c066-1587df5678d4[/URL] Gainesville. She's a scammer, always with a sob story looking for a guaranteed allowance but can't find time to meet.

[QUOTE=PeteAppleSeed;3577290] And I follow all these precautions even though I have a vasectomy. I just do it to avoid drama.[/QUOTE]You are hating on info that does not apply to you like it's a rant against you. I read and appreciate all the info in these forums even though some of it does not apply to my habits or just ain't my style. Let's remember we're here to share real information, not browbeat dudes that report stuff we don't like or agree with.

[QUOTE=SgtSoros;3577735]Re-read slowly what he just posted. All it takes is a DNA match from one of your relatives and it shouldn't be too difficult to track you down.[/QUOTE]And this part in particular cracks me up since I'm adopted, good luck finding my relatives.

The chances of being tracked down based off of DNA from a family member are so astronomical, I'd suggest buying lotto tickets. You stand a better chance at winning (and you'll find relatives you never knew existed).

I've only dropped a load in 1 SB, and she's 43 and can't have anymore children.

[QUOTE=KillerBee1975;3572311]Hello team,

I am new to this site. Was googling for something and found this awesome site. Excellent reviews and almost spent 4 hours going through the posts and I appreciate this kind of forum wherein we can share our experiences and learn a lot. Just wondering if anyone has any experience with this chic on SA.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/60c0164f-eda9-4e11-8ec7-a8fcc9bbba2e[/URL][/QUOTE]Haven't seen Aries in a while.

She escorted for many years (through a group called Heaven's Angels), and got good reviews; she was a lot hotter before the boob (and I guess ass) jobs, when she was a little Bengali spinner. She was a hot little fuck, making out like a teenager (well, I guess she was at the time). That must have been ten years ago, though? I'm pretty sure she's older than 26 (or I hope she is!

Last I heard she strips at Magic City. She's pretty "hood", like wearing a grill, taking pics with guns, and so on. Thug life, I guess? Actually last time I saw her was at the Dekalb County Court House (both there on traffic things LOL); I should have taken her into the bathroom or someplace to fuck her, just to do it in a courthouse. Well, hindsight is 20/20.

That said, no experience with her as a SB; she's a straight-up cash-for-gash hoe (or was).

O.

[QUOTE=Jeffinnatlanta;3578411]GingersRose - [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/198c51cb-a0cd-4af8-9205-34abd54b5af5[/URL] Saggy tits, has a gut and a BF that doesn't know she charges 350+ to sleep with other guys.

Bhelsea - [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/26f4a10a-d982-80e6-5886-48a54c172b32[/URL] A couple that wants to be paid. They may be up for a GB if you make it worth their while.

Lovemii - [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/eef2a9d7-808f-4b77-a90b-393520c13866[/URL] A very chunky married lesbian looking to support them by sleeping with men.

MsJuicyCouture - [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/37a448ad-f9b5-495f-9c52-b2131ce6115d[/URL] Another married with kids she can't support. She's a BBW, her pics are old.

Sexy Red 1980 - [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/9973fdf7-37e7-4662-8dad-971360d860b1[/URL] Stays in a notel in Duluth. Has multiple arrests for drugs and prostitution, so not very smart about her business.

Jakie - [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/35f2b093-ab29-1a25-6cc8-68b7dca50cd7[/URL] Looking for an up-front allowance and won't discuss anything else.

SekhmetBeauty89 - [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/ecc3d586-c501-4afb-b0aa-a48b752d9743[/URL] Chubby, even more chubby than her chubby pics. Time waster, always and excuse for not being able to meet but wants money up front.

Auggie 49 - [URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/c3354a87-8233-68a1-c066-1587df5678d4[/URL] Gainesville. She's a scammer, always with a sob story looking for a guaranteed allowance but can't find time to meet.[/QUOTE]Now this is a great report. I have a sb that catfished me. I'll look for her and post her like you did. Good work.

Any info on this one? Seems to be trying to scam I think.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/3c2e4e7e-dc90-032d-7b9d-5dc6692c1175[/URL]

Hey guys, I guess I need to clarify the difference between a UTR and a CL / BP girl! Or at least from my perspective.

If I post about a UTR it means she's a real woman that likes to play but is totally under the radar and not looking to be like a CL / BP girl. What I mean by that is that she is NOT QV friendly but looking for a more extended playtime and asks for something appropriate for the time. I've posted about a couple of them over the past few months and many of you PM me for details to which I often reply that they are not looking for QV's. But with most of the more seasoned ones I don't make that comment cause I feel it's a known quantity, but apparently not.

I guess it's my fault for ASSUMING what I should not! Maybe I just look at the whole thing differently but when one of you posts about a girl I tend to TRY and read it carefully so I understand both what is being said and what is NOT. There is a lot to be gleaned from comments in both. I, for one, will try to be more careful in the future when I post about someone and be very clear as to the intentions of the one I'm referring to.

I know what some of you have said about every woman being a HOOKER regardless of their status and I get that but some just aren't out there to be a $50 one.

Just my. 02.

SKY.

[QUOTE=Zipper34;3579794]Any info on this one? Seems to be trying to scam I think.

[URL]https://www.seekingarrangement.com/member/3c2e4e7e-dc90-032d-7b9d-5dc6692c1175[/URL][/QUOTE]What type of scam? She's been on the site for a while, scammers don't usually last that long.

[QUOTE=Airmantroy;3579861]What type of scam? She's been on the site for a while, scammers don't usually last that long.[/QUOTE]Wants money through PayPal or gift cards before we meet.