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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2077792]Pomona, fontana, san bernardino, upland, riverside, ontario, rialto, redlands, highland. Anything off the 210 or 10 and east of the 605. Non stop pussy. All at $. All 18 to 24 mixed, black and some latinas. It's really a goldmine out there. Non pro, UTR or pro. They don't care. $ is all they want and are grateful.[/QUOTE]It was much easier time with the latinas in the I.e. Or the riverside area with the $/ date compared with the girls in o.see.
It's the economics.
Is knowing in your heart that you are gods gift to women, but not saying it out loud.
I am complete novice to this stream of ptp, so just googled the term after reading some of the comments in this thread.
[URL]http://www.cosmopolitan.com/advice/tips/sugar-babies[/URL]
Interesting article but probably raising expectations of potential SBs. 3-day trips with no commitment, clothes every time. I hope cosmo has a small circulation among our target segment.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2076075][URL]http://www.tmz.com/2014/04/26/donald...udio-clippers/[/URL]
This babe has gotten at least a million a year for 4 years.[/QUOTE]Hell she said they never had a sexual relationship. Her face looks like a transexual. Most comments from women on the internet reflect this. The majority think she or he has had surgery and chances are goid she is transgender.
[QUOTE=George1950;2086381]Hell she said they never had a sexual relationship. Her face looks like a transexual. Most comments from women on the internet reflect this. The majority think she or he has had surgery and chances are goid she is transgender.[/QUOTE]All of her previous names were female going back 10 years, as well as her arrests reports as reported in the media.
Of course she said no sex, she is trying for her 15 min of fame, however knowing a little about Sterling, she was wide open for him.
She will be a very expensive very UTR screw in about 6 months. She is used to living large. Probably 5 K a pop. Call her lawyer for a modeling secession.
[QUOTE=FunTrust;2086472]All of her previous names were female going back 10 years, as well as her arrests reports as reported in the media.
Of course she said no sex, she is trying for her 15 min of fame, however knowing a little about Sterling, she was wide open for him.
She will be a very expensive very UTR screw in about 6 months. She is used to living large. Probably 5 K a pop. Call her lawyer for a modeling secession.[/QUOTE]Sterling has always been a fucking cheap bastard. Thirty years ago a friend of mine was doing phone work in his mansion and he tried to get free work done. Probably offered fucking clipper tickets to do something that would have caused my friend to lose his job. Fuck him. He deserves anything bad that happens to him.
[QUOTE=PnCool01;2085832]I am complete novice to this stream of ptp, so just googled the term after reading some of the comments in this thread.
[URL]http://www.cosmopolitan.com/advice/tips/sugar-babies[/URL]
Interesting article but probably raising expectations of potential SBs. 3-day trips with no commitment, clothes every time. I hope cosmo has a small circulation among our target segment.[/QUOTE]Look for the sugar baby thread in richmond virginia on this site. It is a wealth of information. I post there all the time.
Have been cutting right to the chase and being very pinpoint in my areas and types thanks to Hollywoodguy's directions and have been getting a lot of bites. Did have one call me an asshole and the next from another hottie was where do you want to meet? LOL.
[QUOTE=LargeEss;2087346]Have been cutting right to the chase and being very pinpoint in my areas and types thanks to Hollywoodguy's directions and have been getting a lot of bites. Did have one call me an asshole and the next from another hottie was where do you want to meet? LOL.[/QUOTE]She is a little ghetto, but definitely cute, when they don't send a body shot, as a rule be prepared for a few extra lbs.
This is the body shot she sent, which is almost indecipherable. She has a pic on SD that is a close up and she has amazing eyes. Who knows.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2087493]She is a little ghetto, but definitely cute, when they don't send a body shot, as a rule be prepared for a few extra lbs.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=LargeEss;2087520]This is the body shot she sent, which is almost indecipherable. She has a pic on SD that is a close up and she has amazing eyes. Who knows.
.[/QUOTE]Don't you hate when they block out the midsection, or do the thing where they lean way forward?. Usually an attempt to cover up some baby fat or pooch.
Yeah, but since I look like I am 9 months pregnant who I am to judge? LOL
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2087537]Don't you hate when they block out the midsection, or do the thing where they lean way forward?. Usually an attempt to cover up some baby fat or pooch.[/QUOTE].
[QUOTE=LargeEss;2088242]Yeah, but since I look like I am 9 months pregnant who I am to judge? LOL
.[/QUOTE]But you"re the one that's paying. It's a buyers market out there.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2068330]I really had to laugh when I read this. When I first started down the SD road it was in a new, somewhat modest truck that I paid about 30 k for. And a lot of young girls love trucks, but I switched to a german car at about half the price just out of happenstance and the comments about my car increased dramatically.[/QUOTE]However, the great thing is that it is totally true that most women are too lazy to do their homework. I got a very modestly priced MBZ E550 (I like the v8). However, the car is 5 years old, but has a perfect paint job and interior. Most girls can't tell the difference between my car and a brand new MBZ, even though it is about 1/3 the price of a new car (less than a brand new Honda Accord). And the girls who do know it is an older model think I am just one of those old farts who likes classic cars, and I left my Ferrari at home for the day.
For my sake, I got the 5 year 50,000 mile extended warranty.
It is hard to believe that girls are so stupid they fall down with their legs open over a used car that costs less than their own Honda.
-Shark-.
[QUOTE=SharkinOC;2089497]
It is hard to believe that girls are so stupid they fall down with their legs open over a used car that costs less than their own Honda.
-Shark-.[/QUOTE]Haha this is so true. I've been on my share of M&Gs where the girl's new Honda or Toyota was more expensive than my used MBZ. But they still got starry-eyed at my car and spread their legs.
Yes, it's true some of these girls are too lazy to lookup model numbers, but I'll tell you the real reason they don't dig too deep about your car. The reason is, they WANT to believe the fantasy. They want to have a suspension of disbelief. They want to think they're worth of the attention of a mature well-off gentleman driving a 60-70 k luxury car.
Just like we often like to believe that a very friendly cashier or waitress is giving us that extra long smile because we think we're special or handsome in her eye. But most of the time we don't press the issue (by making overt advances) because deep down we know she's just doing her job, likely just trying to get more tips or promotion. Instead to stroke our ego we just keep it at the surface level by thinking yes the cute bank teller definitely had thoughts for doing the nasty in the bank vault after-hours withing digging deep.
These girls are the same way. They have low self-esteem issues and usually come from modest upbringings, that many of them know deep down a real multi-millionaire wouldn't give them a second glance. So as long as you're not an asshole or completely turn them off in some way, they want to believe in you. They want to feel as if they have attracted a man of means. Like any decent hollywood movie, it's all about maintaining a suspension of disbelief. Aside from the GPSs and scammers, most girls will not look too closely or can be deflected rather easily.
In all honesty, probably about 75% of your SB hookups / dates will be short-term, and you'll rarely see them beyond the 2nd or 3rd date. So you can create your own background story, fantasy, or allusion (within reason of course), and most likely she won't be around long enough to ever really sniff through the details of your fiction. But for a couple of dates you'll allow her to live out her fantasy with being with a man of means while you get to bang young college pussy a few times before moving on to the next.
That's why you gain so much more mileage by dressing the part and having a visually matching car. Because in most cases deep down both parties know they're just doing a form of Role-Playing. We just put on our fireman uniform and get in our fire engine, errr I mean put on our designer watches and get in our german cars, we then fit the role-paying fantasy and the girl gets wet and most moist as the Florida everglades. This is why so often with newer girls, the allowance is almost secondary. The allowance is essentially just another prop in the role-playing fantasy like hand-cuffs or cop baton. As long as the allowance meets whatever threshold the girl has to maintain the fantasy, then the role-playing proceeds and she will give you full access to her body and every orifice. Because that's how the SD / SB role-playing goes. And if she doesn't know that, then you have to educate her.
Sometimes looking at things in a different perspective can make all the difference in the world. It's why right now I'm able to hold to a very hot 22 year-old substitute elementary teacher with just 100-140 a week because I spend most of it on gifts. She just loves having a guy giving her gifts every single week, even if the total dollar value is modest. After all, what boyfriend or husband buys their woman gifts every single week? It doesn't happen, unless they were cheating on them. So with this girl, I was fortunate that she didn't have overly lavish tastes, so I simply had to dress nicely, be a gentleman, and give her modest but well-thought out gifts weekly and that was enough for her to feel she had her own sugar daddy. So for now, the role-playing is going well and should continue to do so until one of us gets bored.
For Pros and UTRs, we're basically just a means for the girls to pay their bills or get high. But for Non-Pros and SBs specifically, we are means to fulfill a role-playing fantasy.
[QUOTE=JohnGSmith;2090050]Haha this is so true. I've been on my share of M&Gs where the girl's new Honda or Toyota was more expensive than my used MBZ. But they still got starry-eyed at my car and spread their legs.
Yes, it's true some of these girls are too lazy to lookup model numbers, but I'll tell you the real reason they don't dig too deep about your car. The reason is, they WANT to believe the fantasy. They want to have a suspension of disbelief. They want to think they're worth of the attention of a mature well-off gentleman driving a 60-70 k luxury car.
Just like we often like to believe that a very friendly cashier or waitress is giving us that extra long smile because we think we're special or handsome in her eye. But most of the time we don't press the issue (by making overt advances) because deep down we know she's just doing her job, likely just trying to get more tips or promotion. Instead to stroke our ego we just keep it at the surface level by thinking yes the cute bank teller definitely had thoughts for doing the nasty in the bank vault after-hours withing digging deep.
These girls are the same way. They have low self-esteem issues and usually come from modest upbringings, that many of them know deep down a real multi-millionaire wouldn't give them a second glance. So as long as you're not an asshole or completely turn them off in some way, they want to believe in you. They want to feel as if they have attracted a man of means. Like any decent hollywood movie, it's all about maintaining a suspension of disbelief. Aside from the GPSs and scammers, most girls will not look too closely or can be deflected rather easily.
In all honesty, probably about 75% of your SB hookups / dates will be short-term, and you'll rarely see them beyond the 2nd or 3rd date. So you can create your own background story, fantasy, or allusion (within reason of course), and most likely she won't be around long enough to ever really sniff through the details of your fiction. But for a couple of dates you'll allow her to live out her fantasy with being with a man of means while you get to bang young college pussy a few times before moving on to the next.
That's why you gain so much more mileage by dressing the part and having a visually matching car. Because in most cases deep down both parties know they're just doing a form of Role-Playing. We just put on our fireman uniform and get in our fire engine, errr I mean put on our designer watches and get in our german cars, we then fit the role-paying fantasy and the girl gets wet and most moist as the Florida everglades. This is why so often with newer girls, the allowance is almost secondary. The allowance is essentially just another prop in the role-playing fantasy like hand-cuffs or cop baton. As long as the allowance meets whatever threshold the girl has to maintain the fantasy, then the role-playing proceeds and she will give you full access to her body and every orifice. Because that's how the SD / SB role-playing goes. And if she doesn't know that, then you have to educate her.
Sometimes looking at things in a different perspective can make all the difference in the world. It's why right now I'm able to hold to a very hot 22 year-old substitute elementary teacher with just 100-140 a week because I spend most of it on gifts. She just loves having a guy giving her gifts every single week, even if the total dollar value is modest. After all, what boyfriend or husband buys their woman gifts every single week? It doesn't happen, unless they were cheating on them. So with this girl, I was fortunate that she didn't have overly lavish tastes, so I simply had to dress nicely, be a gentleman, and give her modest but well-thought out gifts weekly and that was enough for her to feel she had her own sugar daddy. So for now, the role-playing is going well and should continue to do so until one of us gets bored.
For Pros and UTRs, we're basically just a means for the girls to pay their bills or get high. But for Non-Pros and SBs specifically, we are means to fulfill a role-playing fantasy.[/QUOTE]Love this info. So true but its nice to get some positive reinforcement on my tactics.
The UTR girl I saw last night was telling me she was getting six bills a meet from one sexually disfunctional obese SD. I sensed her lonelyness and insecurity in the FC. Then explained why I was only going to pay her $ a visit. So now I get to be her PT BF while she gathers up some tricks to pay the bills. And I play my role till it ends. Like you say very quickly or maybe a few months.
Profile Name. HazelEyes4 yoou.
Went and saw her last night. Long freakin drive from hollywood. She has a kick ass body and pretty cute. Not the submissive type but gave me what I needed in the end. Hadn't had sex in a few days due to my pursuit of an unwilling NP. This one is past her NP status but did do what I asked after some teasing. You need to have some game or a little xtra coin for this one. 5'8" and 122 lbs. Nice see cups. All natural and young.
Profile Name on SD4 M. Envy213.
She already turned down my offer of a $. No big surprise. Can someone offer her 2 bills? I just want to see if she bites.
There are way more girls in the last week or so responding.
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[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2106477]There are way more girls in the last week or so responding.[/QUOTE]Schools out for summer, I imagine these girls need there $ to go to hard summer, outside lands and EDC.
Whats with all the trans genders on SD4 m lately? Way too many. Now you got to look at every pic twice just to be sure.
Not sure how many of you hobbyist know of the website 'reddit'. They have a ton of sub-reddits (I'm not going to try and explain) just take a look and hopefully you find someone.
[URL]http://www.reddit.com/r/sugardaddies/[/URL]
[URL]http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2094395-shortsonata-Lancaster-California-SugarBaby[/URL]
Only $600 for this one. She accepted my offer of $ the first day she was on the site. You snooze you lose.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2122524][URL]http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2094395-shortsonata-Lancaster-California-SugarBaby[/URL]
Only $600 for this one. She accepted my offer of $ the first day she was on the site. You snooze you lose.[/QUOTE]Probably trying to raise rent money to move out of the closet she is living in. Anybody else catch the 2nd pic?
ND.
[QUOTE=Newday53;2122574]Probably trying to raise rent money to move out of the closet she is living in. Anybody else catch the 2nd pic?
ND.[/QUOTE]And you see where she lives. No one is paying that kind of money out there. I estimate of girls under 25 that fully half are now pros, utr's, gps, trans or lookyloos on SD4 M at this point. The site has really gotten junked up as of late.
For Las Vegas I've found SA to be pretty helpful in meeting SB's I tried SD4 Me and didn't find it to be as effective. YMMV.
Finally dipping my toe into the SD / SB world and looking for a bit of advice. I messaged a SB, she messaged back asking for pics, I sent pics, she says they were good, she asks me what kind of arrangement I'm looking for, I respond with what days I'm typically available and the frequency that I can meet. I told her I would like to meet in person before we agree to any arrangement in order to ensure we are compatible. She responds saying the schedule works and asks what I'm wanting to do with her "like sex or what". Spidey senses tingling. Not sure if this is a normal exchange. Normally I'd be running for the hills as it sounds like Uncle LE to me. Not sure how (or if) I should respond? Any advice greatly appreciated.
I always tell the girl what I expect sexually on a first date if she expects to get paid and how much.
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2124632]I always tell the girl what I expect sexually on a first date if she expects to get paid and how much.[/QUOTE]So is it best just to avoid her question now and wait until we meet, or just cut bait all together and look for another one?
i've seen 3 girls that i personally know on sugardaddyforme that i know for a fact are ****. so, just be careful is all.
Always ask for identification when you suspect something. Always talk money upfront. Always find out what's NOT on the menu as soon as possible.
Any of you have used or heard of the site BADOO.
[QUOTE=Fitibikeco;2139539]Any of you have used or heard of the site BADOO.[/QUOTE]As far as I know, it's a dating site. You might find an occasional girl that is dressed like a hooker but 99% of the pics I see are of civilians. I've used it to set up dates when I go south to Ensenada, Mexico. I'm a Spanish speaker and will chat it up with some local Baja girls before I head down there. I've taken a few out and banged a couple of local girls after a night on the town. If I strike out, I just hit the strip bars and get laid anyways.
Stay safe,
Clutch.
Heading out to Palm Springs which I know isn't covered by this thread but the Palm Springs thread is dead. Looking for a good MP or escort. I have hit a couple places further in the desert and they have given happy endings by the women are not that good looking. One had nice breasts, so that was cool. I know I can look at backpage and such but man, it seems so much tougher out here than in LA. Any leads would be appreciated.
For my experience I got the reply for two girls that offer 45 min hand an pussy job for 60. But No 10 girls, never try so I still trying.
[QUOTE=Clutch;2139766]As far as I know, it's a dating site. You might find an occasional girl that is dressed like a hooker but 99% of the pics I see are of civilians. I've used it to set up dates when I go south to Ensenada, Mexico. I'm a Spanish speaker and will chat it up with some local Baja girls before I head down there. I've taken a few out and banged a couple of local girls after a night on the town. If I strike out, I just hit the strip bars and get laid anyways.
Stay safe,
Clutch.[/QUOTE]
[URL]http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2861237-JuiceeDropz28-glendale-California-SugarBaby[/URL]
Met her a couple weeks ago. Just a sweet girl honestly looking for a SD. We had a good time on our date but she decided to pass on a second one.
Any chance that she might be interested in you sharing her digits with a trusted friend?
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2163215][URL]http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2861237-JuiceeDropz28-glendale-California-SugarBaby[/URL]
Met her a couple weeks ago. Just a sweet girl honestly looking for a SD. We had a good time on our date but she decided to pass on a second one.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;2163215][URL]http://www.sugardaddyforme.com/profile-2861237-JuiceeDropz28-glendale-California-SugarBaby[/URL]
Met her a couple weeks ago. Just a sweet girl honestly looking for a SD. We had a good time on our date but she decided to pass on a second one.[/QUOTE]How was the sex?
Details please?
I don't pass around numbers but I will post a profile link from time to time when I think it is appropriate. If anyone is interested I can post quite a few UTR profiles. I just believe that for girls on SD4 M its up to the individual to contact them, as my success may not be yours and all the girls I see or talk to are usually a YMMV type girl.