"Sugarbabies" / "Arrangements" Amateurs or Not?

[QUOTE=Literal2;1181158]Often when they reject you without saying anything they just delete your email on the site. You can tell when they have read your email and when they haven't and you can tell when they have looked at your profile. You can also tell when they delete your email. If they delete it without reading it after they have looked at your profile, it's probably the worst response. I agree its rare to get an actual rejection email.[/QUOTE]Lit, you are right. I joined this SB4U and all I received are mails from girl way further than the north pole. You know you will never meet anyone that far away anyway.

The ones that's close by never return emails. What the heck is that?

[QUOTE=Richmond Mas; 1181423]Lit, you are right. I joined this SB4U and all I received are mails from girl way further than the north pole. You know you will never meet anyone that far away anyway.

The ones that's close by never return emails. What the heck is that? [/QUOTE]The girls from far away are just hoping to find someone dumb enough to travel to see them or pay them to travel. For example, two bi-sexual girls in Russia told me they would come over for a week and make me happy if I just send them enough money to travel, put them up in a hotel or an apartment, feed them and give them a big allowance. Maybe they were just trying to trick me out of money and the girls didn't really exist, or maybe some guys are rich enough to bring them over for a visit. Not me.

As to the nearby girls that don't reply. It's like any other kind of picking up girls. You have to contact enough girls and make yourself attractive enough by your presentation (your profile and emails) to get them interested in talking to you. If they don't reply, keep changing your approach until they do.

Thats about the best I can do RM. Good luck.

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1179825]I had a SB for 2 ½ years. She was the hottest woman I've ever been around, the smartest and the woman with the biggest heart. The lesser considerations, she frucked like a mink, most often cried after the 'O', particularly the second one and was only the second woman I have ever had, when her hips rocked, her puzzy “crawled” inside like a snake. I did not want more and fortunately for me she was 24 years younger and could make no assumptions. I was pretty sure she had others which didn't bother me. We got together monthly, enjoyed our time and I put a gift in her purse on the ride down the elevator. So she was a SB or she was an UTR escort. The last two times I noticed she wasn't able to stay as long, but that happened to me a couple of times also. Then it was getting to be about that time again and we were texting to arrange our next get together and the following day I saw her wedding mentioned on a girlfriends social network site. So that was the end of that. A husband creates a whole different risk. He's a lucky man, but on full time duty. I doubt I'll find another her.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Literal2;1181148]This has to be a classic story. You may not find another one like her, because it sounds like you were at least a little bit in love with this particular girl, but I believe a lot of the sbs on the website are looking for just this kind of relationship with an sd. It's not for me because I don't want to risk emotional involvement which would happen to me for sure in this kind of long term affair, but it sounds like it was great for you.[/QUOTE]Lightning struck to find so many fine qualities in such a hot package. We met monthly for four hours. Half the time she came to me. Half the time I went to her. In the entire 2 ½ years every time was just like the first time. In love? Not on your life. If I were in love I would want to spend all my time with her. A woman around a lot, anyone around a lot, is not my thing. I have a reclusive side. I was always happy when it was time to return to our lives. I would not have fit into her life or she mine.

Gents.

I am not from your area but kept seeing the SB thread show up on the Front Page with posted comments.

So today I clicked onto the thread and began reading. Then I had to go back 3 pages to get the jist of the discussion, then back 6 or 8 pages. Fascinating discussions.

This has been the most interesting read. Glad you guys are having so much fun with the chase of the SB's and wish you much success in obtaining the desired prize. Again, great read!

Varoom

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1181673]Lightning struck to find so many fine qualities in such a hot package. We met monthly for four hours. Half the time she came to me. Half the time I went to her. In the entire 2 ½ years every time was just like the first time. In love? Not on your life. If I were in love I would want to spend all my time with her. A woman around a lot, anyone around a lot, is not my thing. I have a reclusive side. I was always happy when it was time to return to our lives. I would not have fit into her life or she mine.[/QUOTE]You may be tougher than I am, Golf. I start to get involved with these girls if I see them more than a few times. What the sb / sd usasg sites have allowed me to do is to date-fuck more than one girl at a time which is what I seem to need to stay objective.

By the way, my personal belief is that the way to a woman's heart is through her vagina and if she allows you access a few times she is likely to get involved emotionally even if you don't.

Just my opinion.

Several mongers pm'd me about how I manage sb relationships. The more we share our experiences the more we will all learn. My responses to the questions may be different from others with just as much experience.

1. Do I use my real name with the babes?

No.

2. How do I handle paper trail at hotel?

I pay with a credit card that's billed online. Could this be accessed by a divorce lawyer or by leo? Probably. My focus is on avoiding legal proceedings in the first place. Several mongers recommend checking out with cash to avoid the credit card record. That may work. I wouldn't falsify a registration because I think that's illegal.

3. Do sb's try to get hooks into me and then up the ante?

One girl asked for more money each time we met. I just said sorry, no. I didn't make a big deal out of it and she didn't stop seeing me.

4. How do I disentangle from an sb?

I don't get entangled. I never let them think the relationship is anything other than temporary, even though its fun for both of us.

5. How much allowance, how often paid?

This varies a lot. I probably spend more on sb's than others (I'm lucky to be able to) because I want the girls to have a reason to want to see me instead of another guy. I can't compete with younger guys in some ways but I can in this way.

6. Do I worry an sb will rat me out to the warden?

Yes. The risk is real: a few years ago I saw a 23 year old beginner agency escort in Canada several times. I told her I was divorced. The sex got better and better but I failed to notice signs she'd started making plans for us. I kid you not. One night, she figured out how to find me and called me at home, to surprise me I guess. My wife answered. The girl was furious and totally ratted me out. Luckily, the warden thought it was a crank call. Who would think an agency escort would behave like that? But she did. So I try to avoid giving sb's personal data and I don't let them think I'm single.

[QUOTE=Literal2;1183673]Several mongers recommend checking out with cash to avoid the credit card record. That may work. I wouldn't falsify a registration because I think that's illegal.[/QUOTE]Paying cash does not mean that one would or should give false info upon registration. In fact most hotels when you pay cash will want to see an I'd, so not advisable to give false info. Most hotels that mongers are going to and paying cash know that it isn't you and your wife up in the suite, nor do they care. As long as you pay and practice quiet enjoyment of their premises. Leaving everything in tact when you depart. For the most part you aren't going to receive any mail wanting you to confirm how your stay was. They already KNOW if was GREAT.

Lit 2. Thanks for clarifying some of the rules of the SB road. Helpful and very interesting.

[QUOTE=Golfcart;1179825]... she fucked like a mink, most often cried after the 'O', particularly the second one and was only the second woman I have ever had, when her hips rocked, her puzzy “crawled” inside like a snake. [/QUOTE]Damn I have to get me one of those.

[QUOTE=Varoom; 1183882]Paying cash does not mean that one would or should give false info upon registration. In fact most hotels when you pay cash will want to see an I'd, so not advisable to give false info. Most hotels that mongers are going to and paying cash know that it isn't you and your wife up in the suite, nor do they care. As long as you pay and practice quiet enjoyment of their premises. Leaving everything in tact when you depart. For the most part you aren't going to receive any mail wanting you to confirm how your stay was. They already KNOW if was GREAT.

Lit 2. Thanks for clarifying some of the rules of the SB road. Helpful and very interesting. [/QUOTE]My experience over the last couple of years is that all of the major moderately-priced chains may send you advertising in the postal mail after you stay with them... and it's hard to talk away as "postal spam" something addressed specifically to you and saying "Thanks for your recent stay with us!" For this reason, I always give them my work address, which I can confirm with my business card. Junk mail to me there requires no explanation.

[QUOTE=Cantwinlosin;1184172]My experience over the last couple of years is that all of the major moderately-priced chains may send you advertising in the postal mail after you stay with them... and it's hard to talk away as "postal spam" something addressed specifically to you and saying "Thanks for your recent stay with us!" For this reason, I always give them my work address, which I can confirm with my business card. Junk mail to me there requires no explanation.[/QUOTE]CWL:

Have you noticed these mailing or questionaires being from any specific brand of hotel?

I based my posted opinion on 30 or more stays at hotels with 0 mail. These are typically lower end motels, Quality, Motel69, Super8, etc. Not one piece of mail to date.

[QUOTE=Varoom; 1184461]CWL:

Have you noticed these mailing or questionaires being from any specific brand of hotel?

I based my posted opinion on 30 or more stays at hotels with 0 mail. These are typically lower end motels, Quality, Motel69, Super8, etc. Not one piece of mail to date. [/QUOTE]I'm talking Holiday Inn and Hi Express, Clarion, Hampton Inn, Doubletree, Courtyard and the like. I wouldn't expect spam from Motel6 or Super8. :-)

My impression was that the less expensive hotels are less likely to send you marketing stuff after a stay but I wasn't really sure. It's great to have this confirmed by experience.

I made the mistake of joining Hilton Honors years ago and can't get rid of it. I never give them my HH number when I check in, they always dig it up anyway and send me an email congratulating me on my recent stay at their hotel on such and such a date. Drives me crazy. I finally realized I can unsubscribe from their emailing list so that seems to have stopped. In any case they only have my PO Box as a mailing address (like a business address) and the credit card I use is billed online with the PO Box as the postal address.

No sb pussy for nearly a couple weeks now. I want fresh pussy. SB3 was one of my early failures. She's 29, full tits, nice butt, a little fleshy but not fat. She sent me a pic months ago of herself touching her clit. I gave her sugar and met her but she wouldn't see me alone. Recently she was email teasing me again but she's disappeared again. I won't spend any more on her until penetration but there's no reason to burn her off so I'll wait.

SB11 is a 23 year old college student, she says, very pretty, maybe a touch of Asian. She emails hot and cold. Sometimes I get 4-5 emails a day, sometimes nothing. I had a hard time getting free to set a time with her. When I did so she stopped emailing and doesn't answer her phone. I suspect she's got some other sd fucking her at the moment, so I'll wait.

SB 13 is another single momma. She says she's 24. Her pix show she's got a little extra padding but not much and a cute face. She wants to meet, so I suggested a hotel. She wants a public meeting first. I've suggested a quick coffee or soft drink at a lunch counter. I'll try to call her later today. This girl is in the "maybe I'll get to fuck her" category.

SB14 is a 30-year old waitress or barmaid I think. 5'4 and 120 lbs she says. Face is cute enough. She said she'd meet Thursday in a hotel so I've sent her the address and time. We shall see what happens. This one is in the "I think I'm going to fuck her in a couple days" category.

SB15 is a blond 25 year old and attached, she says. Haven't seen this kind before. She has hot pix. She seems very confident about herself and the sb / sd process. I suspect she knows what she is doing and I'm sure she has a hundred guys hitting on her. She says she wants to meet for lunch and talk about a sb / sd relationship. I'm trying to arrange something. I put this one in the "it will cost me a lot to fuck this girl" category. We will see.

Saw the hot blonde stripper again, and it will be the last. Flaky, drinks too much, too much attitude, and the final straw is she doesn't catch.

Met a new SB over the weekend. 24, brand new to the area from up north and originally from eastern Europe (and still has a touch of accent, which was sexy) , lovely young lady and a body to die for... but as distant and stand-offish as I've ever seen. She indicated that she's had several big-money SD's in the past including one who shelled out $7K for cosmetic surgery. She was perfectly willing to do whatever sort of relationship I wanted, but was so mercenary about it that it was a complete turn-off. Girls like that tend to be lousy, selfish fucks too. I took a pass.

Have a couple of new ones scheduled to met: SB4 is an older (early 40s) lady that may not be what I'm looking for physically but seems to have a great attitude... and attitude and experience can make up for mileage. SB5 is mid-20's and black, which is something I've avoided as my experiences with black girls in the past has been uniformly bad (attitude and constant drama) but this young lady is very attractive and seems to have her head screwed on straight, so I'm going to check her out.

Wish me luck!

Good luck to you CWL.

I wonder what the other sb mongers are doing.

OBX, Thud, Varoom, Golf, Spit, RM, Cool: What're you mongers up to?

As for me, SB13 says we'll meet for coffee Friday and SB 14 says she'll see me at the hotel Thursday. The woman's vagina will be penetrated. Fresh UTR pussy coming up! I love it!