RE: Andrea - (A question)
[QUOTE=CookyJar] I also asked to marry her.
CookyJar[/QUOTE]
I was only kidding. Yet, when I think of girls like Cherry, Andrea and Jewels I wonder. Does anyone know of a case where things worked out between a monger and a streetwalker.
Andrea comes from a good family and has a nice background. Jewel (from last year) seemed well educated with lots of possibilities. Cherry is another girl with a nice background coming from a good family. Most of the girls that I have had an opportunity to talk to and got to know, seemed nice enough. And, you have to figure that sooner or later they have to come around. Nobody can stay/live on the streets forever. So can a girl be straightened out by a monger? Has it even happened?
I would like the forums opinion on this one. What happens when a monger falls for a provider? Does it ever work out? Has anyone heard of one case where it did not end in a disaster?
CookyJar
Don't get involved with a SW!!!
[QUOTE=CookyJar]I would like the forums opinion on this one. What happens when a monger falls for a provider? Does it ever work out? Has anyone heard of one case where it did not end in a disaster?[/QUOTE]
CookyJar, we have had several discussions over the past year on this very subject on the Baltimore board.
The conclusion was unanimous. Getting involved with a SW never works out. You will only get hurt in the end. Most are damaged beyond repair and will say and/or do anything to con you so they can buy their drugs. These girls know exactly which buttons to push.
These girls will need extensive rehabilitative drug treatment, psychological therapy, new environment, new friends, and a support group to stand a chance of getting and staying clean. It's an uphill battle every day to stay that way.
REMEMBER ONE IMPORTANT RULE: IT'S ALL ABOUT THE DRUGS, NOT YOU!!!
A few of our members related their personal stories about getting involved and in some cases living with SW's. The end result was much pain. Not one would recommend it. One member told how his SW got him hooked on drugs too so he would pay for hers as well. Another member told about his SW girlfriend cheating on him and stealing his car. Still another member told about the wild roller coaster ride - emotionally - he had living with his SW girlfriend.
I tried to help an SW to get clean and start a new life a couple of years ago and it was painful. I was in way over my head thinking I could help her. Never again will I get involved!! I offered to help her get into a residential drug treatment program, store her personal belongings, provide a place for her to live until she could find her own place, find a job, and offered other help. She turned down the offer. The lure of drugs was way too strong for her leave it.
CJ, all the stories ended the same, tragically. If you feel that you are starting to get attached to a SW, you would be best advised to turn and run like hell as fast as you can. We live in two different worlds and the worlds never can come together, but only collide.
Continue to be friendly, treat them respectively and be supportive of these girls, but leave it at that.
BBB
RE: Don't get involved with a SW!!!
[QUOTE=Bad Bad Boy]
CJ, all the stories ended the same, tragically.
BBB[/QUOTE]
Come on now, there has to be at least one case where the union of a monger and a provider worked. I know the odds are high. I know it would be tough going. But, come on, there must be one good one out there. When one thinks of the talented girls out there. The beautiful girls out there. The girls from good families. Why, Andrea was a nurse, damn it. There has to be some hope, right? What a waste. What a pity.
Even if it's a million to one, there has to be that one good out come. Are you saying there is never a happy ending? No fairytale ending? Shit! That's rough.
CookyJar
Call me Rosie, but I believe it could happen!
[QUOTE=CookyJar]
Even if it's a million to one, there has to be that one good out come. Are you saying there is never a happy ending? No fairytale ending? Shit! That's rough.
CookyJar[/QUOTE]I for one believe it can happen under the right circumstances.
First, a john can not get a SW off drugs or the streets. The SW has to want to make the transition on her own. That is not saying that you can't help along the way, but she has to want to make the transition with or without your help.
Second, once clean, I think the future relationship between a john and former SW must hinge on how the relationship was preceived by the both of them during her former life. Did she feel that he treated her with love and respect. Or was it a sex thing. If there was mutual love and respect, tough love and understanding I think a future relationship with have a chance. If was strictly a sexual relationship and the john was her favorite clien, it won't last.
Third, is there complete trust in the relationship on both sides. Is the former client able to put the SW's past life in the past. Will the person wonder is she turning tricks everytime she is gone or not where she is supposed to be. Will she think her man is in an alley getting his knob slobbed everytime he can't quite account for his whereabouts. This is one of the toughest huddles to get over.
I believe it can be happen, rare but a SW and john can find love.
Monger/Provider Relationships
[QUOTE=CookyJar]I would like the forums opinion on this one. What happens when a monger falls for a provider? Does it ever work out? Has anyone heard of one case where it did not end in a disaster?[/QUOTE]I suspect that these relationships work only until the conditions/expectations change. Let's face it. Many of the girls are out solely for money, and we're out for sex with them. Therefore, when the guy gets irritated because he feels she's using him for his money, or the girl gets mad because he's using her for sex (both of which are conditions which led to the relationship even forming in the first place), the relationship will disintegrate.
I've developed short-stinted relationships with dancers. While they're certainly fun, you have to see them for what they are. 2-way streets in which each is using the other.
The key is to get out before it explodes. Therefore, you will have a fond memory of it. It also helps to not get pissed when the girl asks for an unusually high amount of money (e. G. , for downpayment for car). It's also useful to treat her with a certain amount of respect. If you don't treat her like a *****, you will get much more action than if you treat her poorly.
Here ends today's mongering gospel.
RE: Call me Rosie, but I believe it could happen!
[QUOTE=Iceberg Slim]
The SW has to want to make the transition on her own.
Second, once clean, I think the future relationship between a john and former SW must hinge on how the relationship was preceived by the both of them during her former life.
If was strictly a sexual relationship and the john was her favorite clien, it won't last.
Third,... This is one of the toughest huddles to get over.
I believe it can be happen, rare but a SW and john can find love.[/QUOTE]
Problem is, I am a very shallow guy. The girls I mentioned, Andrea, Jewels and Cherry, and girls like them are hot now. But, by the time the streets are finished with them and they are at the point where they want to make the transition; their youth and looks will have faded. They will put on that weight that you wanted, and thought she needed. The weight gaining won’t stop when you say stop, it will keep on coming and wham - that fine slim body that had you so wrapped-up will be gone. And what's worst; the out of sight BJ will be gone to. She will lose her out going sexual attitude; it will be a pleasant memory. No more back sit action. All of that hot sexual activity that you so loved, will bring back to many memories. And when you point out how much she liked it when you fucked her in the ass back then. She will break your heart and tell you the truth, no she didn’t. All of the reasons for wanting her in the first place are now gone.
Many times I have run into a girl I knew from the streets five or six years after she has gone clean, just to be disappointed. There was a BSW named Peaches, thin as hell, cute as shit and gave a BJ that took away your breath. That was about eight years ago. Last time I ran into her she was just another pudgy little lady with large breast - no sex appeal at all. I pity the monger who rescues such girls.
Take a streetwalker away from the streets and sooner or later, she becomes just like most woman. She'll get old, fat and lazy. Shit! I can get that anywhere, easy. Wait one freakin minute; I've got that at home. LOL What I want is; young, hot and nasty. It's a shame. But, there it is, the truth.
CookyJar