Not going to close to the edge
When traveling down any road, whether in my car or in my life, I try not to go too far near the edges.
There are a variety of reputable links, but sadly a ton more "agenda related" sites on the internet. We could all post a variety of views, opinions and theories and a lot of the so-called "truths" about this disease are still being uncovered. Most non-zealot sources will correctly indicate that the person receiving a bbbj has a nearly zero chance of receiving HIV. However, semen doesn't kill the virus, in fact the newest studies indicated that certain proteins found in semen actually may help the disease take hold in people based on the manner in which certain proteins interact. Since I'm not planning on ingesting any semen anytime soon, I'm not too worried about this latest news. The only, very, very minimal risk from a bbbj is from the person performing the act. A freshly open sore or abrasion could allow for transmission of the virus into the blood stream. With that said, there are various theories and conflicting reports about how much HIV is actually contained in semen, but it has been shown to contain it in small amounts from time to time in some samples taken from men (this could be because of trace blood that actually made its way into the semen). I have never heard any reputable journal talk about how vaginal fluids and semen actually kill the virus. While they may not contain much virus (or any at all depending on what you read) I have never heard of them referred to as HIV-slayers.
Other bodily fluids, saliva, sweat and urine are not viable vehicles for the spread of the virus. HIV must find its way into your blood stream in order to infect you. That is the only way for it to infect you. Abrasions, sores, cuts, or the mucous membranes with close association to blood pathways are the only possible ways that this can occur thorugh sexual activity.
One of the main problems with unprotected intercourse is that if you get into the activity (and we all have at some point) and end up a bit "raw", if your partner has HIV, your risks could increase, theoretically. The vagina bleeds every month and also is commonly found to have slight tissue tears, etc...factors that put a woman with higher sexual activity levels at more risk than one without such activity levels. There are a wide variety of factors that have caused the proliferation of HIV in certain parts of the world. How they intermingle and impact each other is pretty complex and very hard to isolate individual factors and say that they either have nothing to do with or everything to do with the spread of the virus. Unfortunately, way too many internet sources make such wild claims.
I have never read any validated reports of men getting HIV through receiving uncovered oral sex. Therefore I'm not going to worry about the bbbj's I receive. I would not knowingly receive one from a girl that had HIV...my luck would have me being a freakish statistically anomaly of some sort--so I'd beg off that one. However, there are definitive cases of HIV that are conclusively linked to unprotected heterosexual intercourse. I don't care if it is most likely because of the blood in the vagina and fresh abrasions on a penis. I choose to sheath it up when I veer off the road into those pink tunnels. Plus, even more importantly, I don't want any unexpected mini-me's being raised by a Jane "SW" Doe.
Best of luck
Thanks for being a good sport!
[QUOTE=Big Monty Dog]Well, got there about 6:00 PM
Greek is definately available but did not partake.
Not my type.
If any of you guys ever get to my stomping grounds up north, don't hesitate to contact me & I will recommend places for you to go to.
All in good fun!![/QUOTE]
RTF and you will find some places where services are readily available. Also try the Tampa, Orlando and Sarasota boards. The Tampa Bay area has a wide variety of fun activities. Read and you will find what you are looking for.
CB
Is it worth the risk - again?
[QUOTE=Mike Wazowski]
...The mixture of outright falsehoods followed by a true statement: "HIV is found in vaginal fluids and menstrual blood and can be transmitted to male partners, particularly if there is a cut or sore on the penis."
...Okay, every professional journal I've read since my college days (I have an advanced degree in the Sociological study of Human Sexuality) says that vaginal fluids kill the virus. The "cut or (open) sore on the penis" part of the statement is the only true part of the sentence. Both partners having blood to blood contact is the ONLY means of HIV transmission.
..The truth is, I could hold you at gun point and force you to have unprotected sex with an HIV infected woman three times a day for a year and you'd be more likely to hit the lottery with one ticket than you would to contract the HIV virus.
And take a look at the condom section of that site. Lot's of back pedalling and double-speak, that, esentially, says, "We have no idea if condoms have any effectiveness in preventing the spread of HIV."[/QUOTE]
With all due respect, I could say I am an MD with advanced degrees in anything I would like you to believe. However, to be credible in authoritative statements of fact, as you have made here, to people who may never see me or know me, it would be appropriate to support my authoritative stance with citations to the various sources I would be depending on to make those statements, and that's what's lacking here.
So, I once again ask the original question, "Is it worth the risk?" I think that's a question to be asked and answered by each individual. However, to make an informed decision, each individual should have some knowledge to depend on which should come from credible sources, not just a post on a bulletin board that provides no linkage to credible sources.
You would be doing us all a service by providing a link to or the name, publisher, and date of edition of just a couple of the medical journals you refer to that clearly state vaginal fluids kill the virus.
It would also be a service to us all if you can provide a link to or the name, publisher, and date of edition of at least one medical journal that provides a statement that one can have unprotected sex three times a day with an HIV infected woman for a year and be more likely to hit the lottery. Surely there is some empirical data in a journal or study you have read that will support this assertion.
In the absence of such support, what we have is one person's opinion that may or may not be correct. And if that opinion is not correct, and if someone on this site depends on that opinion to make a decision, that person might very well put his own health or life at risk.