The Sugar Bowl (in Greensboro & Winston-Salem)

[QUOTE=PreAlan01;4676828]Messages are very short.

Often a long time between messages.

Asked to see photos she has on SA. I have been messaging her for about 3 wks now but, there hasn't been many messages. Then I finally sent her my number, and told her my subscription was about to expire, if she wanted to continue, she could message me at my number. Few days went by, and she sent a text. Finally got a photo but, the messaging has still been sorta weird.

If it's really her in the pic, she looks pretty good for 48.

She tells me she's on there for a financial beneficial reason only, and will not out her reasons why. Then she has terms. I ask for terms a few times, and she doesn't say what they are. When I quit messaging, I finally get the pic, then finally it's a P2 P type thing, and I ask what she's wanting, and she tells me, I'll let you come up with that. That's a short version of what's been going on for 3 wks.

Going to hang in for a couple more days, then I'm just going to give up on it.

Was hoping someone else had already seen her, and to see if it's worth the effort.[/QUOTE]This has also been my experience. I'm the type who likes to front load drinking dates, meet with potentials, and then narrow down the ones I want to keep as connections. However, girls often cycle out when they move, get new jobs, or get into relationships. That was until this last time I joined. It's near impossible to get someone to answer 3 consecutive messages in less than 3 days. I don't want to be too hasty and call them scam or bot accounts, but SA was NOT like this before.

Good luck getting any sort of response out of the cute suburban girls. I got a discount for rejoining, but it kind of sucks now.

Anyway, I hope you gents have better luck than I am.

[QUOTE=DJprofessorK;4676933]This has also been my experience. I'm the type who likes to front load drinking dates, meet with potentials, and then narrow down the ones I want to keep as connections. However, girls often cycle out when they move, get new jobs, or get into relationships. That was until this last time I joined. It's near impossible to get someone to answer 3 consecutive messages in less than 3 days. I don't want to be too hasty and call them scam or bot accounts, but SA was NOT like this before.

Good luck getting any sort of response out of the cute suburban girls. I got a discount for rejoining, but it kind of sucks now.

Anyway, I hope you gents have better luck than I am.[/QUOTE]I think its because they all have some dream about the handsome sugardaddy that takes them travelling and buys them a car and and apt. When one of us regular guys message them they suspect we are broke and is a waste of their time. Probably because most of the guys messaging them are trying to give them 50 for fun. So they write us all off as broke and cheap. If the guys who want walker prices would just stick to walkers and stay off the daddy sites it would be better for the guys who will give what's needed for a baby. Remember, a baby isn't a pay per play thing. And if the pay per play girls would get off the daddy sites that would help also.

Its going to suck as long as the pros are on there and the cheap guys are too. The sites not made for that.

[QUOTE=DickDaDicker;4677864]I think its because they all have some dream about the handsome sugardaddy that takes them travelling and buys them a car and and apt. When one of us regular guys message them they suspect we are broke and is a waste of their time. Probably because most of the guys messaging them are trying to give them 50 for fun. So they write us all off as broke and cheap. If the guys who want walker prices would just stick to walkers and stay off the daddy sites it would be better for the guys who will give what's needed for a baby. Remember, a baby isn't a pay per play thing. And if the pay per play girls would get off the daddy sites that would help also.

Its going to suck as long as the pros are on there and the cheap guys are too. The sites not made for that.[/QUOTE]Just had a successful meet & greet tonight. Have another set up for Thursday. It took a bit of work, but the real girls are there.

The overall number of men who make millions, are looking on SA, and will pick that one specific girl are minuscule. Women who join SA looking for that dream are borderline crazy. The income statistics, especially in North Carolina, just don't support that being a reality for most girls. Especially if she's not super model material. I'd give it a decent chance of happening in LA, NY, ATL, San Fran, or other large metropolises that have a huge tech community. You'd still have to be a super model though. It's just not very likely in the Greensboro / High Point / W-S area, but who knows. I can't knock someone for swinging for the fences.

I'm not rich by any means, but I do okay because I struck out on my own and started my own company. I can't afford a top of the line dime piece for months on end, but I can make a nice college girl happy for an extended period of time, especially if she has reasonable expectations. And that's been my sweet spot. I've tried to tell these girls, find a nice middle / upper mgmt guy who makes between 80 k-120 k. He's got money to spend, and he's less likely to treat you like a toy or an object. It's even better if he's married and doesn't want to ruin his life or his career. He's less likely to act like a crazy person. He has too much to lose. So many of these girls are so used to making dirt retail wages, they don't realize how someone who isn't rich can have the expendable income to enjoy an SB and take her on a weekend trip or two. It's so bizarre to me that so many of these girls don't understand the power in responsible spending. And yes, even saving, to indulge in that one girl you've been eyeing.

I do, however, agree with you that SA has been overrun with some unsavory types. Scammers who coax girls into giving out their banking information and then take out loans in their names. Ruining the girls' credit. Self promoting porn stars and premium Snapchat / Instagram / pic sellers. Which SA strictly prohibits. You'll never meet these girls and they have no interest in a physical relationship with anyone. Plus the cheap guys. And even worst, the guys who have no intention of ever meeting the girls, they just message them just to message. So it turns girls off to responding to messages from regular Joe's.

A lot of these girls have been on the site for 1-3 years and have never found anything that resembles a sugar daddy. I've been with a few of them. If you're honest with them, let them ask their questions to feel safe, including meeting in a very public place, maybe even frame it as 'hey look, let's hang out a couple of times before you find your sugar daddy', they may go for it. And don't offer them a ridiculously low amount.

Thanks for the previous advice on pushing back on the 500 figure girls were giving out. I did, and everyone I spoke to came off it. 300 seems to be the sweet spot.

[QUOTE=JEastAlton;4436328]Has anyone had any luck on Secret Benefits? I am debating on whether to purchase some credits. Any info would be greatly appreciated! Stay safe out there!

J.[/QUOTE]I tried to PM BUT yours is full.

PreAlan01 I tried to PM you but your inbox is full.

[QUOTE=Hiamey;4686393]I tried to PM BUT yours is full.[/QUOTE]I've had several experiences on SB including college girls. Be patient.

I saw her a couple years back s as d she was hot and a good time. I think it was 2. 5 $ then. Now she ask for 5 $$ but will settle for 4 $$. I can't help her LOL.

[QUOTE=Hiamey;4689796]PreAlan01 I tried to PM you but your inbox is full.[/QUOTE]Try again, I cleaned some out.

[QUOTE=PreAlan01;4691086]Try again, I cleaned some out.[/QUOTE]Thanks for cleaning out your inbox. Unfortunately, it comes with age, I don't remember what I wanted to ask. LOL. I sure will when I do remember. Thanks.

[QUOTE=DJprofessorK;4680037]
Thanks for the previous advice on pushing back on the 500 figure girls were giving out. I did, and everyone I spoke to came off it. 300 seems to be the sweet spot.[/QUOTE]Please clarify, 300 was the sweet spot for an hour or a entire night?

I just reupped for a month. I've had couple walk away from 3 $$. What have you guys been giving these girls?

[QUOTE=JJGittes;4691109]Please clarify, 300 was the sweet spot for an hour or a entire night?[/QUOTE]I'm pretty big on getting to know the girls and chatting them up so things feel pretty casual and easygoing. I've landed 300 recently for a couple of hours with MSOG. I think the key is making them feel at ease and that's it's going to be a fun, easygoing, and safe experience. I also never message the girls who look like they're not worth the trouble or 'princesses' who want designer bags. I find those women to be insufferable and the dreams are almost always lackluster. I love a good cute, girl next door type. But you're going to have to put in the time. If you're expecting to hook up with them that night, you're going to have a bad time. Plant the seed, be a decent person, and check in with them, they'll start to line up. And they'll even ask when you're free the next time. But I can't stress this enough: don't make them feel cheap or like an object.

[QUOTE=TriadTraveler;4691975]I just reupped for a month. I've had couple walk away from 3 $$. What have you guys been giving these girls?[/QUOTE]What are they asking for instead of that? I also never ever contact the 'princess' types. They're not worth it. Like another gent mentioned that someone asked for 1200. That's absurd. You're going to have to put in the work, but I've definitely landed 300 recently with cute college types.

[QUOTE=TriadTraveler;4691975]I just reupped for a month. I've had couple walk away from 3 $$. What have you guys been giving these girls?[/QUOTE]I haven't seen many but, the last 3 I saw were 200 for up too 2 hrs. One I saw at her place, one at my place, one I had to get a room. I have had many say 300 to 500, and I counter with 200. If they don't bite, I move on. My membership expired a week ago so, I'll be out of it for a while.

[QUOTE=PreAlan01;4692249]I haven't seen many but, the last 3 I saw were 200 for up too 2 hrs. One I saw at her place, one at my place, one I had to get a room. I have had many say 300 to 500, and I counter with 200. If they don't bite, I move on. My membership expired a week ago so, I'll be out of it for a while.[/QUOTE]Care to share who they are? PM if you want.